The European version bb1371 is missing:
- weight
- at least the 4 common color images: red, white, blue, yellow.
Can someone please submit this missing info / images?
Thanks,
Diana
I have weighed 25 bricks. Combined weight is 794 grams. Average would be 31,76
gram. But checking individual bricks, I found variations ranging form 27 to 35
grams. This seems to be due to minor variations between the moulds the bricks
were made in.
When LEGO tried to develop a larger brick for young children, they first experimented
with Jumbo bricks. Soon, these were replaced by the Duplo size we stil know today.
The LEGO designers tried several things, and as a result there are two very different
versions of the 2x4 Jumbo brick x1446.
Samsonite verion
Best known is the Samsonite version.
These bricks were designed in Denmark using the metric system, but produced and
released in North America. A 1x1x1 brick unit size would be 25x25x25 mm, minus
(2 x 0,2 mm) tolerance taken from the ends to allow for building. The resulting
2x4 brick would be 50 x 100 x 25 mm minus a tolerance taken from the length and
with to allow for easy building. As a result, the actual 2x4 brick is 49,6 x
99,6 x 25 mm in size.
This is close to imperial (inch) based sizes, but it really is SI metric. The
height including the stud (and logo) is 30,3 mm. The stud diameter is 21,6 mm,
noticably larger than on the European bricks.
The Samsonite Jumbo bricks are generally known to "not work with any other
LEGO system", but in reality the size of these bricks IS exactly 5x the Modulex
system. The bricks themselves don't connect with each other though.
European version
Less known is the European version of the Jumbo bricks. This seems to be mainly
because they were made in smaller quantities and were available for a shorter
time.
The size of these bricks is exactly 3x the regular system. This seems to be a
later design idea, leading to the 2x system size of the later Duplo bricks.
A 1x1x1 brick unit size would be 24x24x28,8 mm, minus (2 x 0,2 mm) tolerance
taken from the ends to allow for building. As a result, the actual 2x4 brick
is 47,6 x 95,6 x 28,8 mm in size. The height including the stud (and logo) is
34,3 mm. The stud diameter is 17,9 mm, noticably smaller than on the Samsonite
bricks.
(...) The LEGO designers tried several things, and as a result there are two very different
versions of the 2x4 Jumbo brick x1446. (...)
I think that we should consider splitting these parts in the catalog. That would
only add two parts, which can be easily identified. They would be the alternate
versions for:
The inventory updates would be very easy to make, there was no mixed use because
the bricks are not compatible.
The x1447c01 might have used a different color 3001oldb on the end of the string,
but I have not been able to confirm that yet. I would explain 3001oldb-bricks
that have been found.
*
3001oldb Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top Parts: Brick
The x1447c01 still need an inventory consisting of the cart, string and 3001oldb.
Sadly, I don't have one yet.
If this item indeed only exists in white for the Samsonite set and in Light Gray
for the European set, it doesn't need to be split, we can just move things.
So if someone has the European version it can be submitted with image.
Both versions are similar, but have a different size.
(...) The LEGO designers tried several things, and as a result there are two very different
versions of the 2x4 Jumbo brick x1446. (...)
I think that we should consider splitting these parts in the catalog. That would
only add two parts, which can be easily identified. They would be the alternate
versions for:
The inventory updates would be very easy to make, there was no mixed use because
the bricks are not compatible.
The x1447c01 might have used a different color 3001oldb on the end of the string,
but I have not been able to confirm that yet. I would explain 3001oldb-bricks
that have been found.
*
3001oldb Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top Parts: Brick
The x1447c01 still need an inventory consisting of the cart, string and 3001oldb.
Sadly, I don't have one yet.
If this item indeed only exists in white for the Samsonite set and in Light Gray
for the European set, it doesn't need to be split, we can just move things.
So if someone has the European version it can be submitted with image.
When LEGO tried to develop a larger brick for young children, they first experimented
with Jumbo bricks. Soon, these were replaced by the Duplo size we stil know today.
The LEGO designers tried several things, and as a result there are two very different
versions of the 2x4 Jumbo brick x1446.
Samsonite verion
Best known is the Samsonite version.
These bricks were designed in Denmark using the metric system, but produced and
released in North America. A 1x1x1 brick unit size would be 25x25x25 mm, minus
(2 x 0,2 mm) tolerance taken from the ends to allow for building. The resulting
2x4 brick would be 50 x 100 x 25 mm minus a tolerance taken from the length and
with to allow for easy building. As a result, the actual 2x4 brick is 49,6 x
99,6 x 25 mm in size.
This is close to imperial (inch) based sizes, but it really is SI metric. The
height including the stud (and logo) is 30,3 mm. The stud diameter is 21,6 mm,
noticably larger than on the European bricks.
The Samsonite Jumbo bricks are generally known to "not work with any other
LEGO system", but in reality the size of these bricks IS exactly 5x the Modulex
system. The bricks themselves don't connect with each other though.
European version
Less known is the European version of the Jumbo bricks. This seems to be mainly
because they were made in smaller quantities and were available for a shorter
time.
The size of these bricks is exactly 3x the regular system. This seems to be a
later design idea, leading to the 2x system size of the later Duplo bricks.
A 1x1x1 brick unit size would be 24x24x28,8 mm, minus (2 x 0,2 mm) tolerance
taken from the ends to allow for building. As a result, the actual 2x4 brick
is 47,6 x 95,6 x 28,8 mm in size. The height including the stud (and logo) is
34,3 mm. The stud diameter is 17,9 mm, noticably smaller than on the Samsonite
bricks.
I have a few pieces with stickers that are not currently listed in the catalog.
When I submit these to be added to the catalog, how do I know what number to
use? For instance, the one I am submitting right now is part number 6179 with
a train logo sticker on it from the Train Station set released in 2022. So I
submitted it with the part number of 6179pbXXXXX. Am I supposed to assign numbers
where the ‘X’s’ are or will the catalog admin do that when they add it to the
catalog?
Yes, you should search for your base part to find the next sequential number.
You can also search the Approval Pending Overview for help with this as well.
Ah okay, I didn´t know they are not distinguishing every brick. I wonder why
they do it for the "Serif" brick, but not for the "Sans-Serif".
At least there should be a note or something?
In Catalog, peregrinator writes:
In Catalog, Martin_MD writes:
I know there is a Sans-Serif brick. But the brick you have found is not "Embossed".
It´s plain printed on the brick.
Ah, to be clear BL doesn't always distinguish between "printed" and
"embossed". I've seen LL 9xx bricks in both, e.g.
Interesting.. There are other equally evolved from our Early Modern English
cultures, beyond that of present day UK, US, NZ, CA and AUS. Such as the far
more impactful by population, India. All equally distanced from what was Shakespearean
English. Linguistically a level playfield, in other words.
Maybe India doesn't have enough of a BL footprint, or maybe just hasn't
achieved a LEGO retail presence sufficient to warrant it's own market-specific
magazine? All of which, I predict will be changing here soon and having little
to do with any Danish or EU efforts toward market expansions into India.
I have a few pieces with stickers that are not currently listed in the catalog.
When I submit these to be added to the catalog, how do I know what number to
use? For instance, the one I am submitting right now is part number 6179 with
a train logo sticker on it from the Train Station set released in 2022. So I
submitted it with the part number of 6179pbXXXXX. Am I supposed to assign numbers
where the ‘X’s’ are or will the catalog admin do that when they add it to the
catalog?
Yes, you should search for your base part to find the next sequential number.
You can also search the Approval Pending Overview for help with this as well.
I have a few pieces with stickers that are not currently listed in the catalog.
When I submit these to be added to the catalog, how do I know what number to
use? For instance, the one I am submitting right now is part number 6179 with
a train logo sticker on it from the Train Station set released in 2022. So I
submitted it with the part number of 6179pbXXXXX. Am I supposed to assign numbers
where the ‘X’s’ are or will the catalog admin do that when they add it to the
catalog?
Thanks,
Jeff
Look in the parts catalogue for "6179pb*". Sort by item number, use the
first number after the highest existing one. Sometimes there is one pending already,
then you'll get an error, and have to try again with the next. There probably
is an easy way to look up the pending ones as well, but I haven't found that
yet.
(I'm also not sure if it would be ok to reuse a lower number that is not
there (anymore), but probably not, it might confuse the database.)
I have a few pieces with stickers that are not currently listed in the catalog.
When I submit these to be added to the catalog, how do I know what number to
use? For instance, the one I am submitting right now is part number 6179 with
a train logo sticker on it from the Train Station set released in 2022. So I
submitted it with the part number of 6179pbXXXXX. Am I supposed to assign numbers
where the ‘X’s’ are or will the catalog admin do that when they add it to the
catalog?
The list is correct. It’s not “TLD” country codes (ISO 3166-1 alpha 2) that
are used but ISO 639-1 language codes.
The only problem with the list is that the codes are writen UPPERCASE while they
should be lowercase.
The codes are not case-sensitive ... they might look better in lowercase than
in uppercase, but they don't have to be lowercase.
The list is correct. It’s not “TLD” country codes (ISO 3166-1 alpha 2) that
are used but ISO 639-1 language codes.
The only problem with the list is that the codes are writen UPPERCASE while they
should be lowercase.
The codes are not case-sensitive ... they might look better in lowercase than
in uppercase, but they don't have to be lowercase.
Can you please change the code for the Ukrainian language from UK to UA? Most
languages have the TLD code as identifier.
Wrong.
“AF” is the “TLD” code for Afghanistan, they don’t (officially or generally)
speak Afrikaans there.
“AR” is for Argentina, they don’t (officially or generally) speak Arabic there.
There’s no country “EN.”
They don’t speak Slovenian (sl) in Sierra Leone (SL).
Etc.
The code UK used now for the Ukrainian
language overlaps with the TLD code UK for Great Britain.
The language codes on that help page are internal appreviations which are used
on the "Add Item" and "Change Item" forms. They are not shown
anywhere else to the public and are not related to region or language codes used
in item names or item numbers. And they cannot be changed by catalog administrators.
The list is correct. It’s not “TLD” country codes (ISO 3166-1 alpha 2) that
are used but ISO 639-1 language codes.
The only problem with the list is that the codes are writen UPPERCASE while they
should be lowercase.
Can you please change the code for the Ukrainian language from UK to UA? Most
languages have the TLD code as identifier. The code UK used now for the Ukrainian
language overlaps with the TLD code UK for Great Britain.
The language codes on that help page are internal appreviations which are used
on the "Add Item" and "Change Item" forms. They are not shown
anywhere else to the public and are not related to region or language codes used
in item names or item numbers. And they cannot be changed by catalog administrators.
Netherlands, Zuid-Holland
USA, Virginia
Germany, Sachsen-Anhalt
and having little
Austria, Steiermark
France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
Canada, Ontario