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 Author: custommike View Messages Posted By custommike
 Posted: Apr 18, 2024 13:14
 Subject: Re: 30118pb03 - Add known color - Light Gray
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog Requests, custommike writes:
  Picture on the catalog is of a light gray piece but no known color information
is listed.


If that part ever appeared in a set, then it would need to be added to the set
to get known color information to show up.

However, I think it is just the print from
 
Part No: 30119pb01  Name: Wing Plate Bi-level 8 x 4 and 2 x 3 1/3 Down with Silver/Orange/Black UFO Logo Pattern
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30119pb01 Wing Plate Bi-level 8 x 4 and 2 x 3 1/3 Down with Silver/Orange/Black UFO Logo Pattern
Parts: Wing
printed on the wrong part.

In that case, the part should probably not even be in the catalog.

Cheers,
Randy

I actually think this part should be deleted. It looks like I found it in error.
The part that I have on hand is actually 30119pb01 (up vs. down). It also appears
that the 30118pb03 pictured in the inventory is a printed on the wrong part.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 17, 2024 20:35
 Subject: Re: Variants Thread - April 16
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  
  
We definitely could have talked about it on the catalog panel if the catalog
panel had EVER been consulted about this.

The catalog panel was informed of this merge project months before it was announced
publicly. But the purpose of the panel is to bring community voice to the development
team, not contribute to catalog policy.


Unless there was a meeting I missed somehow, I do not recollect that we were
informed of this project or asked to give any input or suggestions. There was
a brief mention that there was a variant project but no details or timetables
were ever given. Considering that many people on the Panel were among those who
expressed surprise and dismay when this was all introduced, I would think that
those meetings would indeed have been an ideal place to breach the subject with
the members at large.

The only thing I recollect is talking about the need to tackle the variants on
the catalog, but nothing specific, I must have missed it too.

  
  We do address catalog policy when it comes up, but it's definitely a sideline
issue, as are all issues that relate to other BrickLink teams, like Marketplace
and Studio. Panel meetings are not the place to debate proposed variant merges.
The Forum is, and there was plenty of debate and even opportunity for more debate.

Perhaps it was not the place to discuss the exact specifics of each part being
looked at. But it would have been good to know how the project would be introduced
and carried out. We are supposed to be looking out for the community and sharing
out expertise after all.

Thanks,
~Jen


He only claims that we were informed of the project and that is the truth. We
were told that it existed.
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
 Posted: Apr 17, 2024 19:53
 Subject: Re: Variants Thread - April 16
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In Catalog, UTLF writes:
  cool, what about the help desk backlog that people have been talking about for
the past month?

Apparently destroying years of peoples hard work is more important than helping
others.
 Author: Dhobeck View Messages Posted By Dhobeck
 Posted: Apr 17, 2024 19:52
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In Catalog, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  Hello everyone,

I thought it would be good to give people an update on the variant project. As
of now, everything we announced would change in this post:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1454437

has been completed, EXCEPT the decorated minifigure heads and new Help pages.

Link for the overview:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2625

Scheduled completion date is still the end of May.

Disgusting.

At least they are getting it done
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
 Posted: Apr 17, 2024 19:51
 Subject: Re: Variants Thread - April 16
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  Hello everyone,

I thought it would be good to give people an update on the variant project. As
of now, everything we announced would change in this post:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1454437

has been completed, EXCEPT the decorated minifigure heads and new Help pages.

Link for the overview:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2625

Scheduled completion date is still the end of May.

Disgusting.
 Author: Nathan123 View Messages Posted By Nathan123
 Posted: Apr 17, 2024 18:52
 Subject: Re: Attach 973pb0280c01 to set 10040
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In Catalog, pcthurman writes:
  In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Nathan123 writes:
  As title says
 
Part No: 973pb0280c01  Name: Torso Pirate Tank Top with Blue and White Horizontal Stripes, Dark Orange Belt with Black Buckle Pattern / Yellow Arms / Yellow Hands
* 
973pb0280c01 (Inv) Torso Pirate Tank Top with Blue and White Horizontal Stripes, Dark Orange Belt with Black Buckle Pattern / Yellow Arms / Yellow Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.
can be attached to set
 
Set No: 10040  Name: Black Seas Barracuda {Reissue}
* 
10040-1 (Inv) Black Seas Barracuda {Reissue}
871 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 2002
Sets: Pirates: Pirates I: Legends

I recently purchased a used copy of the reissued Black Seas Barracuda and this
torso was there, also the torso has a modern underside and that is in common
with all the figures that came with the re-released set.

This can only be fixed by replacing the minifigure in the set inventory. But
the correct minifigure (with 973pb0280c01) must first be added to the catalog.
You can submit it here:
https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp?catType=M
The number would be pi198.

I didn't think that a set bought USED was allowed to be used as proof to
change or update / add to an inventory. Did this policy change?

Cass T

It isn't the only proof. There is only one set that occurred after the underside
torso design changed and that is 10040. The black buckle torso has the modern
underside so there isn't much possibility it could be any other set.
 Author: Dhobeck View Messages Posted By Dhobeck
 Posted: Apr 17, 2024 18:34
 Subject: Re: Attach 973pb0280c01 to set 10040
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In Catalog, Dhobeck writes:
  In Catalog, pcthurman writes:
  In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Nathan123 writes:
  As title says
 
Part No: 973pb0280c01  Name: Torso Pirate Tank Top with Blue and White Horizontal Stripes, Dark Orange Belt with Black Buckle Pattern / Yellow Arms / Yellow Hands
* 
973pb0280c01 (Inv) Torso Pirate Tank Top with Blue and White Horizontal Stripes, Dark Orange Belt with Black Buckle Pattern / Yellow Arms / Yellow Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.
can be attached to set
 
Set No: 10040  Name: Black Seas Barracuda {Reissue}
* 
10040-1 (Inv) Black Seas Barracuda {Reissue}
871 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 2002
Sets: Pirates: Pirates I: Legends

I recently purchased a used copy of the reissued Black Seas Barracuda and this
torso was there, also the torso has a modern underside and that is in common
with all the figures that came with the re-released set.

This can only be fixed by replacing the minifigure in the set inventory. But
the correct minifigure (with 973pb0280c01) must first be added to the catalog.
You can submit it here:
https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp?catType=M
The number would be pi198.

I didn't think that a set bought USED was allowed to be used as proof to
change or update / add to an inventory. Did this policy change?

Cass T

“ For the first year after a set was originally released, inventories will only
be accepted from sealed set contents. Exceptions may be made for bundle packs,
certain accessory sets or service packs which only contain very few items, and
also for sets that were distributed in an open (non-sealed) packaging. If no
inventory was created during the first year, then any source may be used to create
an inventory.”
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=199
 Author: Dhobeck View Messages Posted By Dhobeck
 Posted: Apr 17, 2024 18:33
 Subject: Re: Attach 973pb0280c01 to set 10040
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In Catalog, pcthurman writes:
  In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Nathan123 writes:
  As title says
 
Part No: 973pb0280c01  Name: Torso Pirate Tank Top with Blue and White Horizontal Stripes, Dark Orange Belt with Black Buckle Pattern / Yellow Arms / Yellow Hands
* 
973pb0280c01 (Inv) Torso Pirate Tank Top with Blue and White Horizontal Stripes, Dark Orange Belt with Black Buckle Pattern / Yellow Arms / Yellow Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.
can be attached to set
 
Set No: 10040  Name: Black Seas Barracuda {Reissue}
* 
10040-1 (Inv) Black Seas Barracuda {Reissue}
871 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 2002
Sets: Pirates: Pirates I: Legends

I recently purchased a used copy of the reissued Black Seas Barracuda and this
torso was there, also the torso has a modern underside and that is in common
with all the figures that came with the re-released set.

This can only be fixed by replacing the minifigure in the set inventory. But
the correct minifigure (with 973pb0280c01) must first be added to the catalog.
You can submit it here:
https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp?catType=M
The number would be pi198.

I didn't think that a set bought USED was allowed to be used as proof to
change or update / add to an inventory. Did this policy change?

Cass T

I think that that only applies if the set is only 1 year old
 Author: pcthurman View Messages Posted By pcthurman
 Posted: Apr 17, 2024 18:24
 Subject: Re: Attach 973pb0280c01 to set 10040
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In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Nathan123 writes:
  As title says
 
Part No: 973pb0280c01  Name: Torso Pirate Tank Top with Blue and White Horizontal Stripes, Dark Orange Belt with Black Buckle Pattern / Yellow Arms / Yellow Hands
* 
973pb0280c01 (Inv) Torso Pirate Tank Top with Blue and White Horizontal Stripes, Dark Orange Belt with Black Buckle Pattern / Yellow Arms / Yellow Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.
can be attached to set
 
Set No: 10040  Name: Black Seas Barracuda {Reissue}
* 
10040-1 (Inv) Black Seas Barracuda {Reissue}
871 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 2002
Sets: Pirates: Pirates I: Legends

I recently purchased a used copy of the reissued Black Seas Barracuda and this
torso was there, also the torso has a modern underside and that is in common
with all the figures that came with the re-released set.

This can only be fixed by replacing the minifigure in the set inventory. But
the correct minifigure (with 973pb0280c01) must first be added to the catalog.
You can submit it here:
https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp?catType=M
The number would be pi198.

I didn't think that a set bought USED was allowed to be used as proof to
change or update / add to an inventory. Did this policy change?

Cass T
 Author: Nathan123 View Messages Posted By Nathan123
 Posted: Apr 17, 2024 16:28
 Subject: Re: Attach 973pb0280c01 to set 10040
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In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Nathan123 writes:
  As title says
 
Part No: 973pb0280c01  Name: Torso Pirate Tank Top with Blue and White Horizontal Stripes, Dark Orange Belt with Black Buckle Pattern / Yellow Arms / Yellow Hands
* 
973pb0280c01 (Inv) Torso Pirate Tank Top with Blue and White Horizontal Stripes, Dark Orange Belt with Black Buckle Pattern / Yellow Arms / Yellow Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.
can be attached to set
 
Set No: 10040  Name: Black Seas Barracuda {Reissue}
* 
10040-1 (Inv) Black Seas Barracuda {Reissue}
871 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 2002
Sets: Pirates: Pirates I: Legends

I recently purchased a used copy of the reissued Black Seas Barracuda and this
torso was there, also the torso has a modern underside and that is in common
with all the figures that came with the re-released set.

This can only be fixed by replacing the minifigure in the set inventory. But
the correct minifigure (with 973pb0280c01) must first be added to the catalog.
You can submit it here:
https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp?catType=M
The number would be pi198.

Thank you! I submitted two, one for white pants and one for blue.
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Apr 17, 2024 11:21
 Subject: Re: Variants Thread - April 16
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In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  
  
We definitely could have talked about it on the catalog panel if the catalog
panel had EVER been consulted about this.

The catalog panel was informed of this merge project months before it was announced
publicly. But the purpose of the panel is to bring community voice to the development
team, not contribute to catalog policy.


Unless there was a meeting I missed somehow, I do not recollect that we were
informed of this project or asked to give any input or suggestions. There was
a brief mention that there was a variant project but no details or timetables
were ever given. Considering that many people on the Panel were among those who
expressed surprise and dismay when this was all introduced, I would think that
those meetings would indeed have been an ideal place to breach the subject with
the members at large.

The only thing I recollect is talking about the need to tackle the variants on
the catalog, but nothing specific, I must have missed it too.

  
  We do address catalog policy when it comes up, but it's definitely a sideline
issue, as are all issues that relate to other BrickLink teams, like Marketplace
and Studio. Panel meetings are not the place to debate proposed variant merges.
The Forum is, and there was plenty of debate and even opportunity for more debate.

Perhaps it was not the place to discuss the exact specifics of each part being
looked at. But it would have been good to know how the project would be introduced
and carried out. We are supposed to be looking out for the community and sharing
out expertise after all.

Thanks,
~Jen
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Apr 17, 2024 10:42
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In Catalog Requests, Nathan123 writes:
  As title says
 
Part No: 973pb0280c01  Name: Torso Pirate Tank Top with Blue and White Horizontal Stripes, Dark Orange Belt with Black Buckle Pattern / Yellow Arms / Yellow Hands
* 
973pb0280c01 (Inv) Torso Pirate Tank Top with Blue and White Horizontal Stripes, Dark Orange Belt with Black Buckle Pattern / Yellow Arms / Yellow Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.
can be attached to set
 
Set No: 10040  Name: Black Seas Barracuda {Reissue}
* 
10040-1 (Inv) Black Seas Barracuda {Reissue}
871 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 2002
Sets: Pirates: Pirates I: Legends

I recently purchased a used copy of the reissued Black Seas Barracuda and this
torso was there, also the torso has a modern underside and that is in common
with all the figures that came with the re-released set.

This can only be fixed by replacing the minifigure in the set inventory. But
the correct minifigure (with 973pb0280c01) must first be added to the catalog.
You can submit it here:
https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp?catType=M
The number would be pi198.
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Apr 17, 2024 10:39
 Subject: Re: Variants Thread - April 16
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  
  
We definitely could have talked about it on the catalog panel if the catalog
panel had EVER been consulted about this.

The catalog panel was informed of this merge project months before it was announced
publicly. But the purpose of the panel is to bring community voice to the development
team, not contribute to catalog policy.


Unless there was a meeting I missed somehow, I do not recollect that we were
informed of this project or asked to give any input or suggestions. There was
a brief mention that there was a variant project but no details or timetables
were ever given. Considering that many people on the Panel were among those who
expressed surprise and dismay when this was all introduced, I would think that
those meetings would indeed have been an ideal place to breach the subject with
the members at large.

  We do address catalog policy when it comes up, but it's definitely a sideline
issue, as are all issues that relate to other BrickLink teams, like Marketplace
and Studio. Panel meetings are not the place to debate proposed variant merges.
The Forum is, and there was plenty of debate and even opportunity for more debate.

Perhaps it was not the place to discuss the exact specifics of each part being
looked at. But it would have been good to know how the project would be introduced
and carried out. We are supposed to be looking out for the community and sharing
out expertise after all.

Thanks,
~Jen
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Apr 17, 2024 10:22
 Subject: Re: Variants Thread - April 16
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  Hello everyone,

I thought it would be good to give people an update on the variant project. As
of now, everything we announced would change in this post:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1454437

has been completed, EXCEPT the decorated minifigure heads and new Help pages.

Link for the overview:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2625

Scheduled completion date is still the end of May.

I would like to see an update on this grooved variant that was merged:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1457688

Thanks,
~Jen
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 17, 2024 05:43
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
The important thing moving forward, though, is that no
  one is going to keep investing in that handful of variants that we removed.

This is a serious understatement. From now until I don't know when, I'm
not investing in any of the variants.
 Author: Nathan123 View Messages Posted By Nathan123
 Posted: Apr 17, 2024 02:26
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As title says
 
Part No: 973pb0280c01  Name: Torso Pirate Tank Top with Blue and White Horizontal Stripes, Dark Orange Belt with Black Buckle Pattern / Yellow Arms / Yellow Hands
* 
973pb0280c01 (Inv) Torso Pirate Tank Top with Blue and White Horizontal Stripes, Dark Orange Belt with Black Buckle Pattern / Yellow Arms / Yellow Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.
can be attached to set
 
Set No: 10040  Name: Black Seas Barracuda {Reissue}
* 
10040-1 (Inv) Black Seas Barracuda {Reissue}
871 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 2002
Sets: Pirates: Pirates I: Legends

I recently purchased a used copy of the reissued Black Seas Barracuda and this
torso was there, also the torso has a modern underside and that is in common
with all the figures that came with the re-released set.
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Apr 17, 2024 00:53
 Subject: Re: Variants Thread - April 16
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, rickcraine writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  Hello everyone,

I thought it would be good to give people an update on the variant project. As
of now, everything we announced would change in this post:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1454437

has been completed, EXCEPT the decorated minifigure heads and new Help pages.

Link for the overview:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2625

Scheduled completion date is still the end of May.

I didn't realize 32064b was on the chopping block.

Wasn't there that whole controversy with that guy who claimed to have used
it in a "moc on top of a stud so therefore it was useful" even though
it cannot fit on top of a stud

32064b could go on a hollow stud. I would have spoken up on it, but I didn't
realize it was on the block.

We definitely could have talked about it on the catalog panel if the catalog
panel had EVER been consulted about this.

The catalog panel was informed of this merge project months before it was announced
publicly. But the purpose of the panel is to bring community voice to the development
team, not contribute to catalog policy.

We do address catalog policy when it comes up, but it's definitely a sideline
issue, as are all issues that relate to other BrickLink teams, like Marketplace
and Studio. Panel meetings are not the place to debate proposed variant merges.
The Forum is, and there was plenty of debate and even opportunity for more debate.

  There went a double handful of my catalog work and all the give-a-darn that I
had stockpiled. I think I'll go touch grass and see if it is everything
people talk it up to be.

We knew the hardest thing about this project was having to undo some work that
the community had done. The important thing moving forward, though, is that no
one is going to keep investing in that handful of variants that we removed. This
will also force us to consider more closely the addition of variants in the future,
to avoid this happening again.

And, like I said clearly before, we have a complete record of all modern inventory
change requests. They are all preserved in the Forum for those that want to see
what you discovered in your sealed sets. And the vast majority of your work is
still completely intact and helping other members, so let's not paint this
as a total loss.
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Apr 17, 2024 00:28
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  Hello everyone,

I thought it would be good to give people an update on the variant project. As
of now, everything we announced would change in this post:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1454437

has been completed, EXCEPT the decorated minifigure heads and new Help pages.

Link for the overview:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2625

Scheduled completion date is still the end of May.

I didn't realize 32064b was on the chopping block.

It's been on the list since day one. The purpose was to remove distinctions
based on the shape of the axle hole.

32064c was renamed to 32064a and was retained.
 
 Author: here4bricks614 View Messages Posted By here4bricks614
 Posted: Apr 16, 2024 22:45
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In Catalog, 1001bricks writes:
  In Catalog, here4bricks614 writes:
  and as for the only dark orange 4010px1, there is this:

It is the best complete copy out there. According to the seller, the animals
are all the pb01 variant.

156000152927 ?

Note how the animals are well hidden on the picture.
Why would you hide precious parts to better show bricks?

And it's New, but opened and still partly assembled.
Much more the title is "Lego Duplo Set like 2445": like?

The seller probably didn’t think too much about it. I wouldn’t have been able
to tell you that this set was rare if not for the fact that I know a little more
about these older DUPLO sets. The parts all seem to be there.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Apr 16, 2024 22:16
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In Catalog, here4bricks614 writes:
  and as for the only dark orange 4010px1, there is this:

It is the best complete copy out there. According to the seller, the animals
are all the pb01 variant.

156000152927 ?

Note how the animals are well hidden on the picture.
Why would you hide precious parts to better show bricks?

And it's New, but opened and still partly assembled.
Much more the title is "Lego Duplo Set like 2445": like?

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