Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | StormChaser  | | Posted: | Dec 25, 2020 12:56 | | Subject: | Re: BAM Plans - Finished | | Viewed: | 78 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| Okay, I think we've finally organized this thing. Check it out:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?catType=S&catString=976.625.1132
We're not completely certain on what part inventories for sets like this
will contain:
but at a minimum it would be parts that only appear on Build-a-Minifigure stations
(likely not figures, though).
We encourage someone knowledgeable about Build-a-Minifigure parts to submit an
inventory so we can see what we're looking at. We also need set entries
with pictures for the missing blister packs and it would be nice to have photos
for the sets (like the one shown above) that were created to provide data for
orphaned parts.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 21, 2020 13:36 | | Subject: | Re: Test Prints | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, jbricks writes:
| | Great to see,
Could we get legs to?
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Yes. Submit them to the catalog.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2020 13:14 | | Subject: | Re: Moving Things, Part 2 | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, chetzler writes:
| | If that
is the case just put the old category in the item name field.
e.g.
Cone 2 x 2 Truncated (formerly Brick, Round)
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Asking the site for any programmed changes is pretty much out. If we want this
we'll have to do it ourselves.
| | Heck, you can even remove it after 6 months or so; just give sellers a chance
to adapt.
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Yes, we'll try to put changes in titles this time around using the keyword
"formerly" and remove them six months later. That's a fair request. I can't
promise we'll do it for every single item, though . . . if we move games
from Gear to Sets, for example, the titles wouldn't change.
The main problem with modifying titles like this is that those things get stuck
in titles and never removed. Here's an item number change from five years
ago:
And there are others scattered throughout the catalog with no way (no keyword)
to locate them. But we'll have a complete list this time and updating the
titles in six months should therefore be simple. So there's no reason we
can't accommodate your request. 
Thanks for suggesting it.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2020 12:43 | | Subject: | Re: Moving Things, Part 2 | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | Yep, got it, I'm just trying to avoid the situation we had last time when
things were postponed.
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Oh, okay. I understand you now.
Will we move every single thing that needs to be moved this time around? I wish
I could say, "Yes, we will and this won't have to happen again." But honestly,
that's probably not the case since there're over 100,000 items in the
catalog.
But since you asked: last time went fairly well, so we'll try to put a greater
effort into getting more stuff done this time so we don't have to keep doing
this.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2020 06:24 | | Subject: | Re: Moving Things, Part 2 | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, maxx3001 writes:
| | I understand the catalog problem, but is it because large sellers have items
stored under catalog definitions?
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Yes, that's correct. Teup explains it:
"The fact that parts are sometimes in a place where you didn't
expect it, will always remain. The cost of the change on the other hand would
be quite big, for sellers like me - both in terms of memory and in terms of storage.
If there would be significant changes, it could change my storage alot and cause
a domino effect where, in an extreme case of changing even parts like these,
I'd have to redesign my entire store layout and hope that it will all still
fit."
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1113085
Some stores are organized entirely by the BrickLink catalog and changes in the
catalog can have drastic effects on such storage systems.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2020 05:50 | | Subject: | Re: Moving Things, Part 2 | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | Thanks for the headsup! And I agree with yorbrick that it's ok if this takes
time.
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It has taken time . . . 20 years of it. Categorizing items is a topic
that has been discussed going back nearly to the founding of the site.
With written category definitions finally official on the site for the first
time in 2020, the time has come for action. We took some action on October 1st,
moving over 500 items. Now we plan to take further action with the support of
the community.
| | This is going to be a puzzle and quite a mess for me, and other catagory-based
sorters as well
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Indeed it will be and I apologize for that. The "it will be inconvenient for
sellers" argument has meant that in the past parts have rarely been moved once
they landed in the catalog - even if the categorizations didn't make sense
in hindsight.
We're trying to minimize the inconvenience, but handing the next generation
of LEGO fans the same catalog we got is not fair. Because then they'll
complain that the catalog makes little sense in some areas. But they'll
get used to it and then complain when things are moved. And pass the same poorly-organized
catalog down to the generation following them. Someone has to end that
cycle.
Now that we have written category definitions our goal is to make a little more
sense of its organization. We're not moving things around because it's
fun, believe me.
| | ) it's better as well to rip off the bandaid at once
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I agree. It would be nice to start over and get everything perfect from the
start. Ain't the way the world works, though. Everything in life is a process.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2020 05:28 | | Subject: | Re: Moving Things, Part 2 | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | Is a month long enough to discuss the tiles/plates issues? Especially the shortest
month!
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I think it is. It's already been discussed at length multiple times in the
forum, both recently and in the past. We've stayed in touch with the discussions
and are really not expecting much difficulty sorting out tiles and plates.
| | And let's hope you get permissions
to make any sensible changes.
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It isn't just me doing this. It's a community effort involving all of
us, including the rest of the catalog team. But yes, the site has no problems
with it.
It's pretty much exactly what we did on October 1st. Just different things
this time around.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2020 00:01 | | Subject: | Moving Things, Part 2 | | Viewed: | 211 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| We'll be opening public discussion on February 1st, 2021 for an additional
round of correcting mis-categorizations. The discussion will last through the
end of February.
We'll review internally during the month of March and the approved changes
will occur at the beginning of April.
We plan to address the issue of tiles/plates this time around and also several
issues we couldn't get to last time. No promises, but we're also hoping
to finally move brick-built games from Gear to Sets in response to numerous complaints
over the last decade or so.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 19, 2020 23:44 | | Subject: | Re: BAM Plans | | Viewed: | 75 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures.
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Thank you all for the suggestions. Based on your feedback, these four catalog
entries are pending approval:
The catalog entries will enter the catalog as marked for deletion and serve only
to provide catalog data for BAM items.
We'll take additional feedback for a short time. If no one sees any problems
with doing things this way, we'll approve these four catalog entries and
they can then be inventoried.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 19, 2020 12:43 | | Subject: | Test Prints | | Viewed: | 138 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| BrickLink members have asked for these to be added to the catalog for many years.
Merry Christmas!
[P=3626bpb2715]
[P=3626cpb2715]
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 19, 2020 12:20 | | Subject: | Re: Why are new parts not added quicker to cat? | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
| | Why can't BL just import all new parts from LEGO automatically (just like
RB and BS) and attach a label to them with something like "still to be considered/weighed/photographed/measured
by Bricklink's catalog administrators"?
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I understand it's frustrating that the catalog isn't updated more frequently.
Some thoughts:
Rebrickable and Brickset aren't marketplaces.
Adding parts to our catalog before they're actually released enables multiple
problems.
The catalog team doesn't have physical access to new parts.
Of the activities you mentioned, we can only consider submissions. We can't
weigh, photograph, or measure things we don't have. It's true that
all of us have personal LEGO part collections, but we don't get new parts
when they're released - we have to buy them in sets like everyone else.
BrickLink is a community effort.
It sounds like you want to sacrifice what BrickLink has always been to gain convenience.
If the catalog is not updated with new items in a timely manner, the community
(including the catalog team) is responsible. Instead of shifting that responsibility
to others, why not accept it?
Why have you not submitted these new parts to the catalog with renders or photos
so that we can have them ready to go on January 1st when the new wave of sets
is released?
Be careful what you ask for.
If you were to keep pushing, you might eventually convince the LEGO Group to
come in and take over the catalog from the community. Your success may (or certainly
may not - don't be so sure of it) give you the convenience you want, but
you will also have succeeded in giving away the catalog and the community's
say-so in how it's kept.
Do you really want the LEGO Group running the catalog? If you do, then I can
assure you with complete confidence that you don't know the LEGO Group as
well as you imagine.
| | Buyers who are reading reviews on the aforementioned sites (but also NewElementary)
would have a better experience on BL(XP)
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I don't know about you, friend, but it's hard for me to imagine anyone
having a good experience on XP.
| | Since BL is now owned by TLG I really, really don't get this!
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I'll explain it simply: a year after they bought the site, TLG is keeping
their word and allowing the community to retain control of the catalog.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2020 04:45 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1689-1 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, Jessev writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change {1 to 2} Part Red 2302 Duplo, Brick 2 x 3 with Curved Top
* Change {1 to 2} Part Blue 2302 Duplo, Brick 2 x 3 with Curved Top
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 9, 2020 10:38 | | Subject: | Re: Why is this part in Panels? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
| | Thanks, haven't seen that one. But none of the catalog administrators joined that discussion
so here's my invitation to the catalog administrators to have their say.
|
I'd suggest glancing through this page:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1568
See if it offers guidance on how to categorize this specific part.
If it does: in which category should the part go?
If it doesn't: how should the Help page be updated to account for
this part?
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 4, 2020 10:41 | | Subject: | Re: Duplo Counterparts vs Minifig | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, valentineiv writes:
| | 1)Should all of the mechanical characters in these 4 Duplo themes be in the same
sub group ?
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Yes.
| | 2)If so should it be counterparts or minifigure?
|
These guidelines are imperfect, but they are what we use now and are a vast improvement
over what we used for the first 20 years of BrickLink:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=170
| | 4)Should the cargo-loading Cranky character also be included in a sub group?
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There are no guidelines regarding this issue.
| | 5)Also should the character assembly regardless of sub group have a consistent
theme part id name such as crs***?
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There are no guidelines regarding this issue.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Nov 26, 2020 13:47 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 8133-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 50947pb013L Lime Vehicle, Mudguard 1 x 4 1/2 with Silver Headlights Pattern Model Left (Sticker) - Set 8133 (Counterpart)
* Delete 1 Part 50947pb013R Lime Vehicle, Mudguard 1 x 4 1/2 with Silver Headlights Pattern Model Right (Sticker) - Set 8133 (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
Items incorrectly stickered and marked for deletion.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Nov 15, 2020 09:31 | | Subject: | Re: Multiple moulded parts and print patterns | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | Is there a guideline about when to use *c0X vs *pb0X?
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If you can make sense of them, here are the guidelines:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168
| | I ask because there are some parts that are dual moulded and get added the suffix
pb0 and there are some that get added the c0X instead.
There are some printed ones that have both.
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The site is not interested at this time in any standardization of item numbers.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Nov 15, 2020 00:41 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9102-1 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 6285c01 Red Duplo, Toolo Brick 2 x 2 with Angled Bracket with Clip and Screw
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Nov 15, 2020 00:41 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 9102-1 | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 6285c01 Red Duplo, Toolo Brick 2 x 2 with Angled Bracket with Clip and Screw
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Nov 11, 2020 11:33 | | Subject: | Re: Part 3008pb085 and others | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I suggest that the 3008 parts mentioned above (or at least the "POMPIERI" version)
are marked for deletion until someone can proove that they exist and upload new
pictures showing the bottom.
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Why don't we just correct the existing catalog entries instead? You can
do this by requesting title and item number changes through the change request
form.
___________________________________
This is probably a duplicate entry for this item and could be merged with it:
Before we do that, try contacting the sellers who have the item for sale and
checking to see if any of them have an alternate version.
__________________________________
For this one, also contact sellers. One seller has an actual photo of the part
for sale showing the version you describe.
__________________________________
That can be merged with this:
__________________________________
This could be changed now.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2020 13:14 | | Subject: | Re: Bar Handle | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, jedvii writes:
| | What's the deal with adding "Bar" to all the handled entries?
|
These bar handle changes were all requested by member Stellar, who is better
able to answer your question. The requested changes were approved because the
handles are accurately described as a bar.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2020 01:40 | | Subject: | New Set Discovery | | Viewed: | 101 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| Today I discovered this previously-unknown 1985 LEGO set and added it to the
catalog:
I've discovered unknown sets before, so the thrill of discovery is not exactly
foreign to me. But I must say the excitement hasn't become stale yet.
Just thought I'd share.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Nov 9, 2020 23:29 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 2365-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change {4 to 7} Part Yellow 3437 Duplo, Brick 2 x 2
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Nov 9, 2020 23:29 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 2365-1 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change {4 to 7} Part Yellow 3437 Duplo, Brick 2 x 2
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Nov 1, 2020 02:56 | | Subject: | Re: Order of listings | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, chrism3 writes:
| | When listing catalogue items by number, the list appears by color, but the colors
appear in no discernable order. It would save a lot of searching time if they
appeared in alphabetical order, the same as they do in inventories. Is this possible?
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Can you upload a screenshot so that we can understand what you're seeing?
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 31, 2020 21:17 | | Subject: | Re: Dino(saur) | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | There are Animal, Body Part that are described with “Dino” and others that are
described with “Dinosaur.”
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Not anymore.
| | Is there a reason for that?
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No.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 31, 2020 17:05 | | Subject: | Re: Number from inventory | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, DopamineNL writes:
| | can I find the number that would be used in an inventory (as
it would appear in the back of an instruction book)?
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Everything is revealed upon this page:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1916
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 31, 2020 15:31 | | Subject: | Re: What set does this belong to? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
| |
Those are what I found online.
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Naw, that's:
* | | 30118pb01 Wing Plate Bi-level 8 x 4 and 2 x 3 1/3 Up with Silver/Orange/Black UFO Pattern
Parts: Wing |
The other is probably a prototype part from an unreleased set or sets that wandered
out into the public. Guessing, of course.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 29, 2020 13:17 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory for Diagon Alley incorrect. | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | I have submitted the plain 35530 to the catalog.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 27, 2020 23:28 | | Subject: | Re: Mod Appreciation Day | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, TorontoLego writes:
| | I would like to propose a day when we all take a minute to thank the Mod's for
the work they do. Even when we disagree with them, they work hard and make this
a better place.
I would like to propose Oct 27th as MOD appreciation day.
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I know it's 10 years later and it's almost the end of the day, but .
. . thank you to all the discussion forum moderators.
Chickaroo
Renhoffman
Ash_274
Brickwilbo
SylvainLS
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 27, 2020 20:18 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1635-1 | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 2224 Yellow Duplo Ladder 8 Rung
* Delete 1 Part 2223 Yellow Duplo Ladder Stand 2 x 2
* Add 1 Part 2223c01 Yellow Duplo Ladder Stand 2 x 2 with Yellow Duplo Ladder 8 Rung
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 27, 2020 20:18 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 1635-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 2224 Yellow Duplo Ladder 8 Rung
* Delete 1 Part 2223 Yellow Duplo Ladder Stand 2 x 2
* Add 1 Part 2223c01 Yellow Duplo Ladder Stand 2 x 2 with Yellow Duplo Ladder 8 Rung
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 27, 2020 13:53 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure names and punctuation | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | I thought the rule was that what LEGO calls the figure is the correct name for
the BL catalogue.
|
Not to interject myself into your discussion with Marek, but I'll just mention
the rules for figure names:
From: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=179
Minifigs - Minifigs should be primarily named by either role, character
name, or significant (and usually common) characteristic of dress. Where known,
the LEGO character name is used. Additional text is added to distinguish multiple
versions of the same character. Character-named minifigs often do not need to
be described with other attributes such as headgear, color of legs, etc. Figure
titles should not include set, book, or gear numbers; these are only allowed
in the figure title until that figure is added to an inventory and must then
be removed.
The rules are rather vague and confusing.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 26, 2020 02:36 | | Subject: | Re: Old and new trans-clear parts: what to do? | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
| | I'ld like some guidance from the catalog admins here. How to describe the
other type of plastic and reduced opacity?
|
I'm honestly not entirely sure we can guide you on this issue.
Yes, I would probably be dissatisfied as a buyer if I got the yellowed parts
in your picture. But there are a number of existing colors that vary, some rather
significantly (dark red, pearl gold, etc.). TLG is fairly careful about certain
aspects of their products, but color definitely ain't one of them.
I think the best thing you could do in this situation is include a note in your
item-for-sale listings briefly describing the differences in appearance. Or,
what might be better: list them separately.
I don't think there's anything we can do as CAs to resolve this issue.
It would be highly impractical to add new colors to our palette to account for
unintentional quality variations.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 25, 2020 03:01 | | Subject: | Re: Blue piece 4180546 | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, jokerswild8972 writes:
| | Does this piece come in the normal Blue color?
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'Fraid not, but you reckon you could use two of these instead?
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 24, 2020 12:24 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 41015-1 | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Sand Blue {13392pb01 Dolphin, Friends / Elves, Jumping with Bottom Axle Holder with Medium Azure Eyes with Eyelashes Pattern to 13392pb03 Dolphin, Friends / Elves, Jumping with Bottom Axle Holder with Medium Azure Eyes Pattern}
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 21, 2020 11:05 | | Subject: | Re: mk012 Easy Minifig Inventory | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, axaday writes:
| | I believe someone who has this minifig from a sealed set
|
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe there is any requirement
that minifigure inventories be completed from sealed set contents. That requirement
is only for sets themselves during the first 12 months after release.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 20, 2020 12:19 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Minifig coltlbm32 | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part {Reddish Brown to Black} 28149pb04 Minifigure, Hair Combo, Large Thick Glasses with Reddish Brown Hair, Parted and Wavy with Bright Green Lenses, Pupils Looking Forward Pattern
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 19, 2020 23:54 | | Subject: | Re: Parts Moved | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, par016 writes:
| | I know there are many more weird quirks to the catalog.
|
It's interesting to look at categories from 20 years ago:
https://www.bricklink.com/archive/history/bb112000w.htm
Some highlights:
Barrel
Brick, Facet
Brick, Log
Brick, Octagonal
Brush
Canvas
Castle Wall
Horse
Plane
Platform
Radar Dish
Roller
Tractor
Tyre
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 19, 2020 23:40 | | Subject: | Re: Parts Moved | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, par016 writes:
| | The difference between a plate, modified and a tile, modified should be cleared
up a bit better imo. For instance, these two pieces are in different categories:
That doesn't exactly make any sense
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Absolutely agree. We just didn't get to those this time around. We're
trying to make more sense out of things without making too many people (sellers
and BL management both) piqued by the changes.
If the world doesn't end as a result of the changes (and it hasn't yet)
we plan to do it again and hopefully we'll be able to get to some or most
of the issues you brought up in this post. Moving parts again is item 30 on
our catalog roadmap:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2476
| | Since you moved to slope, curved don't you think deserves
to be moved to slope, curved as well?
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Yep. But remember your concern that the list of moved parts was not conclusive?
That's why this part wasn't moved this time around - because it missed
getting on the list and I didn't want to just start moving things after the
fact.
| | If items like this are a cylinder shouldn't parts like
this be also or maybe vice versa?
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I think so, yes.
| |
I'm still not sure the exact difference between an aircraft part and a cockpit
part. Apparently these are aircrafts and these are cockpits
Seems unnecessarily confusing.
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Agree.
| | While on the topic of aircraft parts this is an
aircraft however, these are a windscreens
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The aft section wasn't designed for use as a windscreen and I don't think
it was ever used as such. It doesn't come in any transparent colors, either.
I'd probably tend not to agree on this.
| | This is a wedge and these are slopes
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I'd say they're all three slopes.
| | This is not a round plate It is heart shaped. It should be in the
plate, modified section.
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Haven't looked at this issue closely, but agree that there are classification
problems here. We moved over 500 parts and figured that was plenty for the first
time around.
| | Maybe the tile
or food section?
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We can look at these next project. Have you taken a look at our relatively new
category definitions page?
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1568
| |
At this point I don't think
it should be in the food category. Fits more as a cone in my eyes.
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I'd probably agree. Cone with bar.
| | Back again to what's the definition between a plate and a tile, these are
listed under tile, round but they have studs on them
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We didn't go through plates or tiles at all, I don't think. They are
a mess. We still haven't completely finished with bricks or slopes yet,
either. It will take some time to get all these sorted out. The important thing
is that the sorting is finally happening.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 19, 2020 23:20 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory for 164-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, SezaR writes:
| | 122 inventory change requests in pending status
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Many of your requests concern part variants, which are a contentious issue that
BrickLink does not handle well at all. We hope to have a programming change
that will allow us to more effectively handle variants in set inventories, but
until then (if there ever is a then) I don't think any of us are too eager
to shuffle variants endlessly in and out of inventories.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 19, 2020 15:52 | | Subject: | New Category: Duplo, Building | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| The Duplo category had 573 entries and was unwieldy to browse. Today we created
a new category titled Duplo, Building and moved 169 parts into the new
category (leaving behind 404 of the original 573 entries).
The definition of the new category is:
For Duplo items that are part of habitable structures such as walls, roofs,
windows, and doors, not including building accessories.
This change will make it easier for current and future Duplo fans to locate items
and was also recorded here:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 18, 2020 03:49 | | Subject: | Re: Adding DVD to catalog | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, platinum_lego writes:
| | I'm not too sure
what to use as the item number?
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Just make one up. We use hundreds of different item numbering systems, so it
really doesn't matter. We'll fix it before approval if it's too
outlandish.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 17, 2020 15:51 | | Subject: | Re: Parts Moved | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, par016 writes:
| | I cannot begin to express how frustrated these changes have made me.
|
I'm sorry to hear that you've experienced so much frustration regarding
these changes, Pete. As the person who conceived and executed the project, if
anyone owes you an apology it's me.
| | I do appreciate the streamlining of the catalog however, I myself tried to contribute
to that the last time I sorted through used inventory about 5 years ago. That
seemed to fall on deaf ears as every one of my catalog change requests was denied,
even though I had many valid changes.
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The catalog management has completely changed during the last five years. If
you're still interested in contributing, you may find us more receptive now.
| | My biggest frustration with this whole ordeal is that there has literally been
NO COMMUNICATION about these changes.
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Unfortunately, I could not have done more than I did. CAs have no way to mass-email
members. I used the channels I had available to communicate the changes.
I believe the site may be working on improving things in this area . . . but
the site is always "working" on something, as you know. To avoid frustration
for sellers the catalog has remained unchanged in many ways for many years.
Now we're trying to work on that.
We could wait for the site to provide some form of notification for sellers,
but time is passing. Errors and chaotic systems become ever more entrenched
while the site works on - well, whatever the site works on. In fact, the reason
we're having this conversation is because things weren't properly done
many years ago (written category definitions, for example).
| | How is there no communication to sellers about these changes,
this really is inexcusable.
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I agree, but cannot change this. The only alternative to making progress with
better organizing the catalog is to do nothing at all. This philosophy led to
your other complaint above: every one of my catalog change requests was denied
| | A simple email or an area on our profile that shows
parts that have changed categories in your store would have been beyond helpful.
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This will require programming changes from the site. They have a rock-solid
track record of providing this service quickly and effectively, so . . .
| | I see the list posted on this thread and that is at least a little helpful, but
I have no idea if it is an exhaustive list or not.
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Yes, it is a complete list. We've had numerous requests to add to the list
(meaning requests to move additional items) and the requests were not approved.
In spite of that, members can still request category changes and have them approved
- several requests are pending approval right now.
| | I would appreciate a way
to know everything that has changed, otherwise I will have to pour through the
change log over days to try to figure out what goes where now.
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I attached a picture of the change log showing how to filter it for easier use.
Hopefully that will cut down on the time needed to see the category changes
that have been recently made for parts.
Again, I wish things were better all the way around, but CAs can only affect
so much. In an effort to avoid making no progress at all, we're trying to
do the best we can with what we have.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 17, 2020 15:24 | | Subject: | Re: Parts Moved | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, enig writes:
| | May I suggest moving the following to 'Bar' category
|
There's a change request pending for this.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 16, 2020 22:18 | | Subject: | Re: Identification number 1 | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | the chaos of BL's literally hundreds of discrete systems of item
numbering.
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Here's another message I posted regarding the use of letters in part numbers:
Letter C Used to Describe an Assembly
Letter C and "assy" Used to Describe Two Assemblies
Letter C Used as Part of Abbreviation for Classic
Letter C Used to Describe a Hose
Letter C Used to Describe a Multipack Part
Letter C Used to Describe a Variant
But it all seems to make perfect sense to the site itself, of course.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 16, 2020 22:10 | | Subject: | Re: Identification number 1 | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | Now maybe we should question if those are really Design IDs or just mold numbers...
|
I don't know this for certain, but I strongly suspect someone pre-BrickLink
(LDraw? Peeron?) just went through and started numbering things without regard
to actual part numbers. BrickLink simply copied those item numbers from whomever
did the original numbering.
Search for all parts and order them by item number, up. It should become evident
that these are numbers somewhat randomly assigned to parts by fans prior to BrickLink's
use of bb* numbers.
On item numbers, BTW, we got shut down pretty quickly when we suggested introducing
order to the chaos of BL's literally hundreds of discrete systems of item
numbering. For example, here's something I posted privately regarding the
numbering of figures:
| | I count 68 distinct numbering systems as follows:
1-Digit Letter + Number + 2-Digit Letter + 2-Digit Number
x4cx01
1-Digit Letter + 2-Digit Number
x30
1-Digit Torso Letter + 3-Digit Number
s003
2-Digit Generic Identifier + 4-Digit Number
bb0001
2-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number
sc072
2-Digit Theme, Capitalized + 3-Digit Number
CL001
2-Digit Theme, Capitalized + 3-Digit Number + Letter
WC016s
2-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + Letter
dp029s
2-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 2-Digit Letter
sp085sb
2-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 3-Digit Letter
pi013new
2-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 3-Digit Letter + Number
sp001new2
2-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Number
sw0522
2-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Number + Letter
sw0001d
2-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Set Number
cc4066
2-Digit Theme, One Number, One Letter + 3-Digit Number
4j001
2-Digit Theme, One Number, One Letter + 3-Digit Number + Letter
4j003a
3-Digit Time Period + 3-Digit Number
old021
3-Digit Time Period + 3-Digit Number + Letter
old046s
3-Digit Theme + Number + Letter
fab1a
3-Digit Theme, Capitalized + Number + Letter
Fab3e
3-Digit Theme + 2-Digit Number + Letter
fab10a
3-Digit Theme + 2-Digit Theme + 2-Digit Number
colsh13
3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Descriptor + Letter Descriptor + 2-Digit Number
scaFemA02
3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Item Type + 3-Digit Number
dupfig001
3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Item Type + 3-Digit Number + Letter
dupfig001r
3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number
tlm139
3-Digit Theme, All Caps + 3-Digit Number
LLP002
3-Digit Theme, All Caps + 3-Digit Number + Letter
LLP003a
3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + Letter
agt020a
3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + Letter + Number
rac036s2
3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + Letter + 2-Digit Number
pln102s01
3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 2-Digit Letter
cas046cm
3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 3-Digit Letter
cas050new
3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 3-Digit Letter Capitalized
fab001BHP
3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + Letter + 2-Digit Number
bat011c01
3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Theme + 2-Digit Number
coluni01
3-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Theme + 2-Digit Number
coltlbm01
3-Digit Theme + 7-Digit Descriptor + 2-Digit Number
dupmermaid01
3-Digit Torso Identifier + 3-Digit Number
hor019
4-Digit Name
pooh
4-Digit Part Number
5473
4-Digit Part Number + 2-Digit Letter + 3-Digit Number
4555pb135
4-Digit Part Number + 2-Digit Letter + 3-Digit Number + Letter
4555pb142a
4-Digit Theme + 2-Digit Number
clik01
4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number
uagt004
4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + Letter
fire005s
4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 3-Digit Letter
post001new
4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Descriptor + Number
belvFem2
4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Descriptor + Number + Letter
belvFem4a
4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Descriptor + 2-Digit Number
belvFem10
4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Descriptor + 2-Digit Number + Letter
belvfem10a
4-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Descriptor + Number
belvBaby1
4-Digit Theme, Capitalization Reversed + 4-Digit Descriptor + Number + Letter
Belvbaby2a
4-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Descriptor + 2-Digit Number
belvFair02
4-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Descriptor + 2-Digit Number + Letter
belvFair01a
4-Digit Torso Identifier + 3-Digit Number
jred010
4-Digit Torso Identifier + 3-Digit Number + Letter
jred024s
5-Digit Part Number
23048
5-Digit Part Number + 1-Digit Letter
23047b
5-Digit Part Number + 1-Digit Letter + 1-Digit Number
51991e1
5-Digit Part Number + 1-Digit Letter + 2-Digit Number
45219c01
5-Digit Part Number + 2-Digit Letter + 3-Digit Number
47205pb001
5-Digit Part Number + 2-Digit Letter + 3-Digit Number + Letter
47394pb018b
5-Digit Torso Identifier + 3-Digit Number
ncklc008
5-Digit Unknown Letters + 3-Digit Number
airdg001
6-Digit Name
Eeyore
6-Digit Name + 3-Digit Descriptor
Eeyorenew
6-Digit Torso Identifier
redsox
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