Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies Author: | CanadaFirst | Posted: | Jul 15, 2021 10:17 | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | Viewed: | 96 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| Seeing as the consequence of non-compliance is the revocation of seller privileges
and that our bricklink shop is the sole income for our employees could you please
confirm that as a non-EU based seller (Canada) we do not have to register for
VAT in Europe and that tihngs will go on as they are now IE bricklink-generated
VAT invoices?
If I misread this and need to register to each an every EU country it would be
good to know well in advance since I believe such a process could take a little
while...
Thanks!
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Author: | leggodtshop | Posted: | Jul 15, 2021 07:30 | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | Viewed: | 71 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, sw_minifigs writes:
| In Administrative, bricks.steine writes:
| As stated by the Dutch member, the same regulation concerning used goods (Differenzbesteuerung)
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[snip]
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Hello,
In Germany it means "Differenzbesteuerung" and is included in our UstG. §25 ...
But what about the dealers who use this regulation? The new OSS EU reform does
not apply to us, but I don't see any option here at bricklink to choose an
option that takes this into account, so here there is either with or without
tax.
I think that affects most of the dealers here, does anyone know more? how to
get around that or what bricklink is going to do here? would be nonsense if there
were no more dealerships for used goods on bricklink in 30 days, right?
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Same here. I just do NOT registed my VAT ID at BrickLink. Because margin goods
are not liable for VAT, and you are not allowed to charge VAT on margin goods
sales. So BrickLink is not allowed either.
We have to wait and see how BrickLink is dealing with this regulation. In principle
they do not have to do anything.
Unless your store sales exceeds 10k on BrickLink then they might contact you
or suspend your store. However, margin goods sales do NOT count for the 10k threshold,
so that might be an issue if BrickLink does not consider that.
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Author: | sw_minifigs | Posted: | Jul 15, 2021 07:25 | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | Viewed: | 81 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, bricks.steine writes:
| As stated by the Dutch member, the same regulation concerning used goods (Differenzbesteuerung)
applies in Germany. All goods sold by using Differenzbesteuerung are not counting
for the 10000 Euro.
Regards
Stefan
In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
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Hello,
In Germany it means "Differenzbesteuerung" and is included in our UstG. §25 ...
But what about the dealers who use this regulation? The new OSS EU reform does
not apply to us, but I don't see any option here at bricklink to choose an
option that takes this into account, so here there is either with or without
tax.
I think that affects most of the dealers here, does anyone know more? how to
get around that or what bricklink is going to do here? would be nonsense if there
were no more dealerships for used goods on bricklink in 30 days, right?
|
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Author: | bricks.steine | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 16:08 | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | Viewed: | 146 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| As stated by the Dutch member, the same regulation concerning used goods (Differenzbesteuerung)
applies in Germany. All goods sold by using Differenzbesteuerung are not counting
for the 10000 Euro.
Regards
Stefan
In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
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Author: | ZwarteMagica | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 14:38 | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | Viewed: | 166 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| Dear BrickLink,
Thank you for your e-mail regarding "implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce
rules for online marketplaces". First, I feel quite threatened by your e-mail
because of the combined deadline (30 days), the sanction (revoking seller privileges)
and incorrect rules mentioned. HappyB has always worked compliant with the Dutch
and EU laws. By my knowledge your rules/information is incorrect. Let me explain.
HappyB applies the Dutch version of 'VAT margin goods' ('margeregeling'
in Dutch) on all it's sold products.
https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/bldcontentnl/belastingdienst/zakelijk/btw/zakendoen_met_het_buitenland/goederen_en_diensten_naar_andere_eu_landen/export_van_specifieke_goederen_en_in_bijzondere_situaties/export_margegoederen_naar_eu_landen
The above link is an official page from the Dutch national Tax agency. It clearly
states that, when applying the 'margeregeling' no VAT should be mentioned
on the invoice and no VAT should be charged to the customer. The seller should
pay VAT over the profit to the Dutch tax agency.
https://www.kvk.nl/advies-en-informatie/internationaal-ondernemen/e-commerce/btw-regels-voor-e-commerce-in-de-eu/
The above link is an official page from the Dutch Chamber of Commerce. It clearly
states that all sales done using the previously mentioned 'margeregeling'
do not count towards the €10.000 threshold mentioned in BrickLink's e-mail.
Again, HappyB applies the Dutch version of 'VAT margin goods' ('margeregeling'
in Dutch) on all it's products.
Please confirm having received this message.
We do not intent to register for VAT on BrickLink.
We do not (yet) intent to activate BrickLink's marketplaces functionality.
Please confirm that my store will not lose it's selling privileges in 30
days, regardless the above.
Please confirm that HappyB will continue to be able to sell to buyers from other
EU countries.
Kind regards,
HappyB
Marcel
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Author: | Teup | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:57 | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | Viewed: | 79 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| In Administrative, Teup writes:
| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.
About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.
Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.
I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????
Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.
So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.
If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.
And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.
I planned a quiet day today!
https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp
|
Addition:
When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.
|
I was assuming submitting an OSS automatically means the VAT will be the percentage
of the buyer's country. They're asking sellers to do that, so that must
mean that that is what Bricklink is supporting. But yes, it would be good to
hear some more info on this. For example if it can be switched on and off by
the seller, or if Bricklink is forcing sellers. (Although you can still do what
you want in your own administration and ignore what Bricklink does, if you're
not fussy about earning 1-2% more or less)
|
If you count the time you spend on administration since all changes with PostNL,
Brexit, US Sales Tax, we already lost a lot. So, yes I am 'fussy' about
1-2% less.
Although I don't know the outcome yet. DE 19% sales might be more 21+% sales.
But it's the administration that counts. Time is money!
And speaking about Time: Er komt 'n tijd dat we meer bezig zijn met administratie
dan met de rest van onze in- en verkoop werkzaamheden.
|
If my Sale price incl. 21% VAT is € 121, a German buyer should see a price of
€ 119 and receive an Invoice or Purchase notification of € 119, VAT 19% =
€ 19 over € 100 NET. If they still pay € 121, the seller has to calculate, received
€ 121 / 119 x 100 = NET and € 121 / 119 x 19 = VAT
Back to the sixties!
|
Ah yep it depends on your workflow I guess. I have always ignored Bricklink's
VAT and other features, I just feed the order's grand total into my software
and work from there. So if I receive €121 instead of €119 from a German customer
it would make no difference to me in terms of administration. Right now it charges
21% regardless, and will charge the percentage of the buyer once I update the
software in december. So I ignore what Bricklink does.
But of course, all of this isn't an excuse for Bricklink not to get it right.
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Author: | TakeAbricK | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:48 | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | Viewed: | 77 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| In Administrative, Teup writes:
| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.
About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.
Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.
I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????
Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.
So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.
If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.
And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.
I planned a quiet day today!
https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp
|
Addition:
When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.
|
I was assuming submitting an OSS automatically means the VAT will be the percentage
of the buyer's country. They're asking sellers to do that, so that must
mean that that is what Bricklink is supporting. But yes, it would be good to
hear some more info on this. For example if it can be switched on and off by
the seller, or if Bricklink is forcing sellers. (Although you can still do what
you want in your own administration and ignore what Bricklink does, if you're
not fussy about earning 1-2% more or less)
|
If you count the time you spend on administration since all changes with PostNL,
Brexit, US Sales Tax, we already lost a lot. So, yes I am 'fussy' about
1-2% less.
Although I don't know the outcome yet. DE 19% sales might be more 21+% sales.
But it's the administration that counts. Time is money!
And speaking about Time: Er komt 'n tijd dat we meer bezig zijn met administratie
dan met de rest van onze in- en verkoop werkzaamheden.
|
If my Sale price incl. 21% VAT is € 121, a German buyer should see a price of
€ 119 and receive an Invoice or Purchase notification of € 119, VAT 19% =
€ 19 over € 100 NET. If they still pay € 121, the seller has to calculate, received
€ 121 / 119 x 100 = NET and € 121 / 119 x 19 = VAT
Back to the sixties!
|
|
Author: | TakeAbricK | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:37 | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | Viewed: | 80 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, Teup writes:
| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.
About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.
Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.
I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????
Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.
So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.
If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.
And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.
I planned a quiet day today!
https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp
|
Addition:
When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.
|
I was assuming submitting an OSS automatically means the VAT will be the percentage
of the buyer's country. They're asking sellers to do that, so that must
mean that that is what Bricklink is supporting. But yes, it would be good to
hear some more info on this. For example if it can be switched on and off by
the seller, or if Bricklink is forcing sellers. (Although you can still do what
you want in your own administration and ignore what Bricklink does, if you're
not fussy about earning 1-2% more or less)
|
If you count the time you spend on administration since all changes with PostNL,
Brexit, US Sales Tax, we already lost a lot. So, yes I am 'fussy' about
1-2% less.
Although I don't know the outcome yet. DE 19% sales might be more 21+% sales.
But it's the administration that counts. Time is money!
And speaking about Time: Er komt 'n tijd dat we meer bezig zijn met administratie
dan met de rest van onze in- en verkoop werkzaamheden.
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Author: | Bricks_And_More | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:18 | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | Viewed: | 86 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| snip..
|
Addition:
When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.
|
That's my question too!
If a buyer from Germany buys from me then, the vat is 19%, if it's a customer
from Hongary, it's 27%! Must i eat the difference myself? Or just put 27%
on all my items to avoid that?
How can i manage that with my prices?
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Author: | Teup | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:17 | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | Viewed: | 87 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.
About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.
Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.
I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????
Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.
So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.
If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.
And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.
I planned a quiet day today!
https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp
|
Addition:
When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.
|
I was assuming submitting an OSS automatically means the VAT will be the percentage
of the buyer's country. They're asking sellers to do that, so that must
mean that that is what Bricklink is supporting. But yes, it would be good to
hear some more info on this. For example if it can be switched on and off by
the seller, or if Bricklink is forcing sellers. (Although you can still do what
you want in your own administration and ignore what Bricklink does, if you're
not fussy about earning 1-2% more or less)
|
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Author: | TakeAbricK | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:13 | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | Viewed: | 85 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| […]
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
|
There’s a problem with your dates. It should be 2020, no?
|
yes you are right
The UK-EU period of the last 12 months.
|
|
Author: | TakeAbricK | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:05 | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | Viewed: | 106 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.
About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.
Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.
I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????
Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.
So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.
If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.
And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.
I planned a quiet day today!
https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp
|
Addition:
When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.
|
|
Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:02 | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | Viewed: | 95 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| […]
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
|
There’s a problem with your dates. It should be 2020, no?
|
|
Author: | Teup | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 07:58 | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | Viewed: | 118 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| In Administrative, rankster writes:
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
|
This is quite the opposite of what my tax professional said. I was told that
I have nothing to do with my preceding 12 months sales (at least here in Austria,
it could vary by country). All I need to monitor is my sales from July 1st, 2021
and if it's not exceeding the EUR 10 000 treshold this year I'm OK to
register not sooner than 2022.
|
Same here (Netherlands). Imo same in all EU countries, for it is a EU Guideline.
|
|
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
|
What if I already have a valid VAT-ID but I'm in VAT-exempt status until
the end of this year for sure? Should I add my VAT-ID but not enabling VAT in
my settings?
|
|
+1
I am not selling over the threshold this year, and I will not use local VAT rates
this year, no matter if you suspend me or not. I simply am not able to use the
new scheme at this point, because my software needs to be rewritten and I cannot
do that now. I am doing that in december.
Last year's sales do not matter under the Dutch legislation. I'm acting
100% in accordance with the new laws.
|
|
Author: | TakeAbricK | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 07:45 | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | Viewed: | 129 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, rankster writes:
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
|
This is quite the opposite of what my tax professional said. I was told that
I have nothing to do with my preceding 12 months sales (at least here in Austria,
it could vary by country). All I need to monitor is my sales from July 1st, 2021
and if it's not exceeding the EUR 10 000 treshold this year I'm OK to
register not sooner than 2022.
|
Same here (Netherlands). Imo same in all EU countries, for it is a EU Guideline.
|
|
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
|
What if I already have a valid VAT-ID but I'm in VAT-exempt status until
the end of this year for sure? Should I add my VAT-ID but not enabling VAT in
my settings?
|
|
|
Author: | TakeAbricK | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 07:43 | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | Viewed: | 145 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.
About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.
Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.
I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????
Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.
So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.
If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.
And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.
I planned a quiet day today!
https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp
|
|
Author: | rankster | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 07:38 | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | Viewed: | 153 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
|
This is quite the opposite of what my tax professional said. I was told that
I have nothing to do with my preceding 12 months sales (at least here in Austria,
it could vary by country). All I need to monitor is my sales from July 1st, 2021
and if it's not exceeding the EUR 10 000 treshold this year I'm OK to
register not sooner than 2022.
|
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
|
What if I already have a valid VAT-ID but I'm in VAT-exempt status until
the end of this year for sure? Should I add my VAT-ID but not enabling VAT in
my settings?
|
|
Author: | Admin_Russell | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 07:21 | Subject: | EU VAT Registration Guidelines | Viewed: | 865 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
|
BrickLink ID CardAdmin_Russell
|
Location: USA, California |
Member Since |
Contact |
Type |
Status |
May 9, 2017 |
|
Admin |
|
|
BrickLink Administrator |
|
| An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
|
Author: | Macaronis | Posted: | Jul 13, 2021 21:58 | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | Viewed: | 102 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, pitz8008 writes:
| In Administrative, Macaronis writes:
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| Dear BrickLink members,
Because of the severe nature of the spam in our Forum today, we will need to
take steps to prevent excessive posting from new members. In the past we have
not placed limits because we wanted to keep the door open to new members who
may have issues that are not resolved with one or two posts.
Obviously, it's going to take some time to cancel all the spam from today.
Please bear with us, and contact me personally if you have any idea who you think
is behind this attack.
Thank you.
|
As they say in Aliens. Nuke it from Orbit... Just to be sure.
|
"It's the only way to be sure".....epic, top notch flick
|
TY for edit.. Been a few years wince I watched it and didnt bother to go google
and copy the Quote.
|
|
Author: | pitz8008 | Posted: | Jul 13, 2021 01:12 | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | Viewed: | 81 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, Macaronis writes:
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| Dear BrickLink members,
Because of the severe nature of the spam in our Forum today, we will need to
take steps to prevent excessive posting from new members. In the past we have
not placed limits because we wanted to keep the door open to new members who
may have issues that are not resolved with one or two posts.
Obviously, it's going to take some time to cancel all the spam from today.
Please bear with us, and contact me personally if you have any idea who you think
is behind this attack.
Thank you.
|
As they say in Aliens. Nuke it from Orbit... Just to be sure.
|
"It's the only way to be sure".....epic, top notch flick
|
|
Author: | Macaronis | Posted: | Jul 12, 2021 19:37 | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | Viewed: | 96 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| Dear BrickLink members,
Because of the severe nature of the spam in our Forum today, we will need to
take steps to prevent excessive posting from new members. In the past we have
not placed limits because we wanted to keep the door open to new members who
may have issues that are not resolved with one or two posts.
Obviously, it's going to take some time to cancel all the spam from today.
Please bear with us, and contact me personally if you have any idea who you think
is behind this attack.
Thank you.
|
As they say in Aliens. Nuke it from Orbit... Just to be sure.
|
|
Author: | peregrinator | Posted: | Jul 12, 2021 13:11 | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | Viewed: | 59 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, tEoS writes:
| After clicking Save Settings, does the banner appear that indicates the
your settings were saved?
|
Sure does.
My guess is that the settings appear to be saved because the form fields on the
page are populated by the submitted form data rather than being read back from
the database.
|
Author: | tEoS | Posted: | Jul 12, 2021 12:29 | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | Viewed: | 64 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| After clicking Save Settings, does the banner appear that indicates the
your settings were saved?
| I'm using the same build, but it doesn't work.
|
|
Author: | peregrinator | Posted: | Jul 12, 2021 12:04 | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | Viewed: | 59 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, tEoS writes:
| It seems to work for me.
Google Chrome Version 91.0.4472.124
| I'm unable to save that setting -- it appears to save, but when I go
to the Forum it clearly hasn't taken, and when I go back to the Forum Settings
it's no longer checked, plus my other settings are reset.
|
|
I'm using the same build, but it doesn't work.
|
|
Author: | cosmicray | Posted: | Jul 12, 2021 12:04 | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | Viewed: | 65 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| Dear BrickLink members,
Because of the severe nature of the spam in our Forum today, we will need to
take steps to prevent excessive posting from new members. In the past we have
not placed limits because we wanted to keep the door open to new members who
may have issues that are not resolved with one or two posts.
Obviously, it's going to take some time to cancel all the spam from today.
Please bear with us, and contact me personally if you have any idea who you think
is behind this attack.
Thank you.
|
First, thanks for putting up with this, and operating a defacto wastewater treatment
plant. If only there was an anaerobic digestion tank for spammy forum traffic.
Second, with respect to new users having access to the forum ... my view is that
they should be restricted to one topic, sort of a "BL welcomes new members" topic
for the first 30 days or so, and possibly rate limit their activity. That would
corral them into a more manageable space.
Nita Rae
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Author: | tEoS | Posted: | Jul 12, 2021 12:00 | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | Viewed: | 55 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| It seems to work for me.
Google Chrome Version 91.0.4472.124
| I'm unable to save that setting -- it appears to save, but when I go
to the Forum it clearly hasn't taken, and when I go back to the Forum Settings
it's no longer checked, plus my other settings are reset.
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Author: | StephenB76 | Posted: | Jul 12, 2021 11:59 | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | Viewed: | 43 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, peregrinator writes:
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| You should be able to hide all canceled posts with a Forum setting.
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I'm unable to save that setting -- it appears to save, but when I go
to the Forum it clearly hasn't taken, and when I go back to the Forum Settings
it's no longer checked, plus my other settings are reset.
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Snap just said the same, whether great minds applies
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Author: | peregrinator | Posted: | Jul 12, 2021 11:58 | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | Viewed: | 65 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| You should be able to hide all canceled posts with a Forum setting.
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I'm unable to save that setting -- it appears to save, but when I go
to the Forum it clearly hasn't taken, and when I go back to the Forum Settings
it's no longer checked, plus my other settings are reset.
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Author: | StephenB76 | Posted: | Jul 12, 2021 11:57 | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | Viewed: | 58 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, tEoS writes:
| My BL / settings / my discussion forum settings
| You should be able to hide all canceled posts with a Forum setting.
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I'm Having issues with it applying, it says it's saved the changes then
when I go into the forum it hasn't and has even changed the view so that
it doesn't show all in order as the replies which I had it previously set
up doing
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Author: | tEoS | Posted: | Jul 12, 2021 11:19 | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | Viewed: | 76 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| My BL / settings / my discussion forum settings
| You should be able to hide all canceled posts with a Forum setting.
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Author: | Admin_Russell | Posted: | Jul 12, 2021 10:32 | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | Viewed: | 146 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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BrickLink ID CardAdmin_Russell
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Location: USA, California |
Member Since |
Contact |
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May 9, 2017 |
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Admin |
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BrickLink Administrator |
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| In Administrative, peregrinator writes:
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| Dear BrickLink members,
Because of the severe nature of the spam in our Forum today, we will need to
take steps to prevent excessive posting from new members. In the past we have
not placed limits because we wanted to keep the door open to new members who
may have issues that are not resolved with one or two posts.
Obviously, it's going to take some time to cancel all the spam from today.
Please bear with us, and contact me personally if you have any idea who you think
is behind this attack.
Thank you.
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Another thing I would suggest: allow users to add "no longer registered" users
to their forum ignore lists. I was able to add a few of the spam accounts last
night but I see that the issue continues this morning, and I can't do anything
about the wall of "(Cancelled)" posts.
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You should be able to hide all canceled posts with a Forum setting.
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Author: | Fr0stByt3 | Posted: | Jul 12, 2021 07:43 | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | Viewed: | 95 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Stellar writes:
| Hope you have a good coffee while you cancel 13776 posts...
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This is one of those moments a bit of programming wouldn't hurt if no means
to wipe every post a user has made simultaneously exists.
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Author: | peregrinator | Posted: | Jul 12, 2021 07:36 | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | Viewed: | 92 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| Dear BrickLink members,
Because of the severe nature of the spam in our Forum today, we will need to
take steps to prevent excessive posting from new members. In the past we have
not placed limits because we wanted to keep the door open to new members who
may have issues that are not resolved with one or two posts.
Obviously, it's going to take some time to cancel all the spam from today.
Please bear with us, and contact me personally if you have any idea who you think
is behind this attack.
Thank you.
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Another thing I would suggest: allow users to add "no longer registered" users
to their forum ignore lists. I was able to add a few of the spam accounts last
night but I see that the issue continues this morning, and I can't do anything
about the wall of "(Cancelled)" posts.
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Author: | infinibrix | Posted: | Jul 12, 2021 06:15 | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | Viewed: | 104 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| Dear BrickLink members,
Because of the severe nature of the spam in our Forum today, we will need to
take steps to prevent excessive posting from new members. In the past we have
not placed limits because we wanted to keep the door open to new members who
may have issues that are not resolved with one or two posts.
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Even if you allow new members 10 posts in a 24 hour period that might be a flexible
starting point as most questions/issues can be resolved within that number of
posts and even if it requires further replies they only have to wait until the
following day to continue where they left off. Can't imagine a spammer is
going to cause too much havoc with just 10 posts!
Either way I fear the bigger issue is that they are able to create multiple new
accounts so quickly and without the need to verify themselves in some way?
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Author: | Kuboteka | Posted: | Jul 12, 2021 04:09 | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | Viewed: | 113 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| Dear BrickLink members,
Because of the severe nature of the spam in our Forum today, we will need to
take steps to prevent excessive posting from new members. In the past we have
not placed limits because we wanted to keep the door open to new members who
may have issues that are not resolved with one or two posts.
Obviously, it's going to take some time to cancel all the spam from today.
Please bear with us, and contact me personally if you have any idea who you think
is behind this attack.
Thank you.
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The best way to prevent it in the future without limitation of new users used
on many forums - user can make post at the forum once a minute and answer to
the created post once a 30 seconds.
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Author: | Stellar | Posted: | Jul 12, 2021 04:00 | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | Viewed: | 117 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| Dear BrickLink members,
Because of the severe nature of the spam in our Forum today, we will need to
take steps to prevent excessive posting from new members. In the past we have
not placed limits because we wanted to keep the door open to new members who
may have issues that are not resolved with one or two posts.
Obviously, it's going to take some time to cancel all the spam from today.
Please bear with us, and contact me personally if you have any idea who you think
is behind this attack.
Thank you.
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Thanks, it is really needed. maybe the limit is not needed to be one 1 or 2,
up to 5 or 10 posts would be easily cancellable.
Hope you have a good coffee while you cancel 13776 posts...
Users can update its settings to hide cancelled messages or hide messages from
the spamers here:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageFilter.asp
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Author: | jbo210 | Posted: | Jul 11, 2021 23:49 | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | Viewed: | 126 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| Dear BrickLink members,
Because of the severe nature of the spam in our Forum today, we will need to
take steps to prevent excessive posting from new members. In the past we have
not placed limits because we wanted to keep the door open to new members who
may have issues that are not resolved with one or two posts.
Obviously, it's going to take some time to cancel all the spam from today.
Please bear with us, and contact me personally if you have any idea who you think
is behind this attack.
Thank you.
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I agree that limits may need to be implemented for new members to avoid this
nonsense. Wish you the best of luck and hopefully this can be contained soon.
Appreciate the work you do!
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Jul 7, 2021 12:26 | Subject: | Re: BrickLink and the new EU VAT e-commerce rules | Viewed: | 79 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Stellar writes:
| […]
"BrickLink will not collect VAT if the buyer is VAT registered and provides their
valid VAT number (in these cases, the VAT registered buyer will be responsible
to account for VAT)."
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Ah, I knew I read the direct sentence somewhere but couldn’t find it again.
| Well... I'm VAT registered and verified in the management tab in my Bricklink
store settings...
So this is also something not implemented...?
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Implemented the BrickLink way
| PD: Or if I place the order the VAT amount will disappear?
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Ooh, a derring-do
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Author: | kaat | Posted: | Jul 7, 2021 12:14 | Subject: | Re: BrickLink and the new EU VAT e-commerce rules | Viewed: | 53 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| In Administrative, Stellar writes:
| […]
So... as a Business I can't buy anything for less than 150€ and reclaim that
VAT...?
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As I understand it, as a business, you give BL your VAT-ID and you don’t pay
that VAT: read “en creux” (indirectly) the questions 10 and 11 on https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2518
“private buyers”
“non-VAT registered sellers in EU”
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That's what I thought too. However, when I fill a cart at a shop from US,
still VAT is being added even though I have a VAT id in my account. So now indeed
I need to go over 150 euro, or buy within the EU. Not sure if this is a bug or
a feature
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Author: | Stellar | Posted: | Jul 7, 2021 12:13 | Subject: | Re: BrickLink and the new EU VAT e-commerce rules | Viewed: | 48 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| In Administrative, Stellar writes:
| […]
So... as a Business I can't buy anything for less than 150€ and reclaim that
VAT...?
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As I understand it, as a business, you give BL your VAT-ID and you don’t pay
that VAT: read “en creux” (indirectly) the questions 10 and 11 on https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2518
“private buyers”
“non-VAT registered sellers in EU”
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"BrickLink will not collect VAT if the buyer is VAT registered and provides their
valid VAT number (in these cases, the VAT registered buyer will be responsible
to account for VAT)."
Well... I'm VAT registered and verified in the management tab in my Bricklink
store settings...
So this is also something not implemented...?
PD: Or if I place the order the VAT amount will disappear?
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Jul 7, 2021 12:04 | Subject: | Re: BrickLink and the new EU VAT e-commerce rules | Viewed: | 46 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Stellar writes:
| […]
So... as a Business I can't buy anything for less than 150€ and reclaim that
VAT...?
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As I understand it, as a business, you give BL your VAT-ID and you don’t pay
that VAT: read “en creux” (indirectly) the questions 10 and 11 on https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2518
“private buyers”
“non-VAT registered sellers in EU”
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Author: | Stellar | Posted: | Jul 7, 2021 11:28 | Subject: | Re: BrickLink and the new EU VAT e-commerce rules | Viewed: | 53 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| In Administrative, helge writes:
| […]
Sorry of this has been covered before, but I have not seen it.
For selling to EU how can we document that VAT has been paid? The document that
Bricklink provides does not (unlike the similar document for UK) contain any
invoice number, VAT ID, or description of goods.
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https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2517#ioss
You need to join the receipt to the CN22/23.
You need BL’s IOSS-VAT-ID, and you need to give it electronically to your shipping
carrier.
Thou Shall Not write the IOSS on the package… but you can write it on the CN22
that you’ll stick to the package….
| And it specifically says that
"This is NOT an invoice for VAT purposes" So what is the point of that document?
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This part means you can’t use it to reclaim VAT. It’s a receipt, not an invoice.
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So... as a Business I can't buy anything for less than 150€ and reclaim that
VAT...?
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Jul 7, 2021 08:17 | Subject: | Re: BrickLink and the new EU VAT e-commerce rules | Viewed: | 55 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, helge writes:
| […]
Thanks. I assumed that it would be the same as sending to UK. Luckily I have
not had many orders from EU since July 1.
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Well, I guess it was supposed to be the same but Brexit came in just before the
first vote (2017 for EU), so it ended a bit different.
Norway’s requirements should be similar (voted earlier, and implemented in April
2020 I think) but BL hasn’t done anything yet, maybe not enough sales there or
deemed less risky to take their time?
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Author: | TDH_Bricks | Posted: | Jul 7, 2021 07:12 | Subject: | Re: New EU Marketplace Tax Solution is Now Live | Viewed: | 68 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Brick.Store writes:
| In Administrative, kaat writes:
| In Administrative, legobasar writes:
| Yesterday, July 1, I got an order from Poland, but in order details I still see
German, not Polish VAT: 19% instead of 23%. Isn't "EU Marketplace Tax Solution"
active?
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Unfortunately this is not yet implemented.
See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2517
Quote:
**If seller exceeds distance selling threshold of €10,000, seller must collect
VAT from buyer.
This will be implemented at a later date.
For now, it will still use the VAT percentage from the seller and you will have
to "fix" this in your own book keeping. Or stay below 10K, because then you can
still use domestic VAT percentage.
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It is a pity that it does not work yet.
It would be nice if someone from the responsible parties says something about
it, until when you can expect it!
Will it take another 1-2 weeks or a few months, etc.?
There are certainly genung dealers who are over 10,000€.
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Hello,
can somebody from BL team tell us deadline (or plan) for implementation of using
Buyers VAT rate for EU intracommunity sales? It is frustrating to manually recalculate
and explain each invoice to EU Buyers.
Thank you.
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Author: | helge | Posted: | Jul 7, 2021 07:10 | Subject: | Re: BrickLink and the new EU VAT e-commerce rules | Viewed: | 50 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| In Administrative, helge writes:
| […]
Sorry of this has been covered before, but I have not seen it.
For selling to EU how can we document that VAT has been paid? The document that
Bricklink provides does not (unlike the similar document for UK) contain any
invoice number, VAT ID, or description of goods.
|
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2517#ioss
You need to join the receipt to the CN22/23.
You need BL’s IOSS-VAT-ID, and you need to give it electronically to your shipping
carrier.
Thou Shall Not write the IOSS on the package… but you can write it on the CN22
that you’ll stick to the package….
| And it specifically says that
"This is NOT an invoice for VAT purposes" So what is the point of that document?
|
This part means you can’t use it to reclaim VAT. It’s a receipt, not an invoice.
|
Thanks. I assumed that it would be the same as sending to UK. Luckily I have
not had many orders from EU since July 1.
Regards,
Helge
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Jul 7, 2021 06:46 | Subject: | Re: BrickLink and the new EU VAT e-commerce rules | Viewed: | 61 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, helge writes:
| […]
Sorry of this has been covered before, but I have not seen it.
For selling to EU how can we document that VAT has been paid? The document that
Bricklink provides does not (unlike the similar document for UK) contain any
invoice number, VAT ID, or description of goods.
|
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2517#ioss
You need to join the receipt to the CN22/23.
You need BL’s IOSS-VAT-ID, and you need to give it electronically to your shipping
carrier.
Thou Shall Not write the IOSS on the package… but you can write it on the CN22
that you’ll stick to the package….
| And it specifically says that
"This is NOT an invoice for VAT purposes" So what is the point of that document?
|
This part means you can’t use it to reclaim VAT. It’s a receipt, not an invoice.
|
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Author: | helge | Posted: | Jul 7, 2021 05:31 | Subject: | Re: BrickLink and the new EU VAT e-commerce rules | Viewed: | 85 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| BrickLink VAT Changes Due to new EU VAT e-commerce Rules
Dear BrickLink members,
Following the introduction of the new rules for online marketplaces, BrickLink
will enable its VAT collection for goods imported into the European Union (EU)
on July 1, 2021 to comply with the new EU VAT Marketplace rules. Below is an
overview of these changes:
Changes at a glance:
1) EU buyers will see VAT exclusive prices from non-EU sellers and EU buyers
will see VAT inclusive prices from VAT-registered EU sellers.
2) BrickLink will collect and remit VAT on orders delivered to EU addresses imported
into their EU Member State from a non-EU country up to a value of €150 (not including
additional costs i.e. shipping insurance, etc.). For orders over €150 imported
to their EU Member State, the seller/buyer may need to pay VAT consistent with
the import country’s standard VAT rate as part of clearing the goods through
customs.
3) EU VAT will be added during the checkout process (where applicable) and at
the receipt of the final invoice and will not be included in the item price.
4) Where BrickLink is responsible for collecting VAT on orders sent to an EU
delivery address, this amount will be shown separately at checkout.
5) EU sellers that sell more than €10,000 of goods within the EU (but excluding
domestic transactions) per year will be required to be VAT registered in each
EU Member State it sells to or will need to register for the One Stop Shop (OSS)
scheme.
What this means for sellers:
1) If you are a non-EU seller and you want to sell goods to EU buyers, you will
need to opt-in to BrickLink’s on-site payment method.
2) In case of refunds, we encourage sellers to use the BrickLink refund feature
to ensure the correct amount of VAT gets refunded. The refund page can be accessed
from the Issue Refund link on the order detail page.
3) Sellers should list the items in their inventory exclusive of VAT and any
other taxes/fees to ensure price consistency in the Price Guide.
More information will be posted on dedicated Help and FAQ pages closer to the
release date.
Thank you,
The BrickLink Team
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Sorry of this has been covered before, but I have not seen it.
For selling to EU how can we document that VAT has been paid? The document that
Bricklink provides does not (unlike the similar document for UK) contain any
invoice number, VAT ID, or description of goods. And it specifically says that
"This is NOT an invoice for VAT purposes" So what is the point of that document?
Regards,
Helge
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Author: | Brick.Store. | Posted: | Jul 2, 2021 05:14 | Subject: | Re: New EU Marketplace Tax Solution is Now Live | Viewed: | 109 times | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, kaat writes:
| In Administrative, legobasar writes:
| Yesterday, July 1, I got an order from Poland, but in order details I still see
German, not Polish VAT: 19% instead of 23%. Isn't "EU Marketplace Tax Solution"
active?
|
Unfortunately this is not yet implemented.
See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2517
Quote:
**If seller exceeds distance selling threshold of €10,000, seller must collect
VAT from buyer.
This will be implemented at a later date.
For now, it will still use the VAT percentage from the seller and you will have
to "fix" this in your own book keeping. Or stay below 10K, because then you can
still use domestic VAT percentage.
|
It is a pity that it does not work yet.
It would be nice if someone from the responsible parties says something about
it, until when you can expect it!
Will it take another 1-2 weeks or a few months, etc.?
There are certainly genung dealers who are over 10,000€.
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