Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | randyf  | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 17:08 | | Subject: | Re: two versions of part 970c00pb0052 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | | | | | My guess is that it hasn't been discovered yet that there is a bright green
version, so all the figures with it are being inventoried as having the lime
version.
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All of the parts of the minifig appear to have bright green print, not lime
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Which leads me to believe that there are two versions of Buzz and all his parts:
Lime and Bright Green. Which sets each came in I have no idea.
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The bright green print may have come from the magnet gear set
* |  | 852949 (Inv) Magnet Set, Minifigures Toy Story (3) - Woody, Alien, Buzz Lightyear - with 2 x 4 Brick Bases blister pack
Gear: Magnet: Toy Story |
Those were made in China, I believe, and could possibly have had poor quality
control.
I have not seen a Buzz with anything but lime print, but all of the ones I have
came from the real Toy Story sets.
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| Author: | Hamster_Prod | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 17:01 | | Subject: | Re: Who decides the minifig item No? | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
| | In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
| | In Catalog, WoutR writes:
| | In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
| | Hi,
This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?
For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)
As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.
So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?
I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!
Thanks in advance,
Josh
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See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168
on item numbers
and https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
on adding items to the catalog
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Ah, thanks. That explains it. So it comes from the order in which folks on bricklink
added it to the catalogue. I guess for most categories it is basically the order
in which the figures were released.
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I think the catalogers try to follow the set number too. So for "lord of the
rings" the first set number in that theme
has the first two "lor" figure numbers
and the next set
has the next three "lor" figure numbers.
However, there are probably scenarios where the sets aren't cataloged in
the same order as their sequential set number, but I think this is a loose goal.
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Interesting point, thanks! One of the things that threw me off is the Adventurers
line is catalogued in alphabetical order and completely ignores release date.
I guess this was all done in one go at some point after everything had already
been released.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 16:56 | | Subject: | Re: Who decides the minifig item No? | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
| | I think the catalogers try to follow the set number too. So for "lord of the
rings" the first set number in that theme
has the first two "lor" figure numbers
and the next set
has the next three "lor" figure numbers.
However, there are probably scenarios where the sets aren't cataloged in
the same order as their sequential set number, but I think this is a loose goal.
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Nope. That is just the order that the inventories for the sets were added to
the catalog. If the largest LotR set would have been inventoried first, it would
have had the minifigures with the first minifigure numbers in the theme. Like
someone said earlier, it is mostly up to fate (i.e. what minfigures get added
first to the catalog based on which sets are getting inventoried first).
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| Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 16:33 | | Subject: | Re: two versions of part 970c00pb0052 | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | | | My guess is that it hasn't been discovered yet that there is a bright green
version, so all the figures with it are being inventoried as having the lime
version.
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All of the parts of the minifig appear to have bright green print, not lime
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Which leads me to believe that there are two versions of Buzz and all his parts:
Lime and Bright Green. Which sets each came in I have no idea.
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| Author: | Cob | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 16:27 | | Subject: | Re: two versions of part 970c00pb0052 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | Not sure how to go about this, but part
needs to be broken up into 2 separate entries. Currently we only have one for
a lime printing. I have been listing legs recently and came across 4 of these
legs. Three of them had lime printing, the fourth has bright green printing(verified
as Lego). Searching for "Buzz Lightyear" figures, I came across minifig toy004
from which the picture seems to show bright green printing, yet inventory says
it has the legs with lime print.
My guess is that it hasn't been discovered yet that there is a bright green
version, so all the figures with it are being inventoried as having the lime
version.
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All of the parts of the minifig appear to have bright green print, not lime.
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| Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 16:17 | | Subject: | two versions of part 970c00pb0052 | | Viewed: | 86 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Not sure how to go about this, but part
needs to be broken up into 2 separate entries. Currently we only have one for
a lime printing. I have been listing legs recently and came across 4 of these
legs. Three of them had lime printing, the fourth has bright green printing(verified
as Lego). Searching for "Buzz Lightyear" figures, I came across minifig toy004
from which the picture seems to show bright green printing, yet inventory says
it has the legs with lime print.
My guess is that it hasn't been discovered yet that there is a bright green
version, so all the figures with it are being inventoried as having the lime
version.
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| Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 14:01 | | Subject: | Re: Who decides the minifig item No? | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
| | In Catalog, WoutR writes:
| | In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
| | Hi,
This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?
For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)
As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.
So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?
I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!
Thanks in advance,
Josh
|
See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168
on item numbers
and https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
on adding items to the catalog
|
Ah, thanks. That explains it. So it comes from the order in which folks on bricklink
added it to the catalogue. I guess for most categories it is basically the order
in which the figures were released.
|
I think the catalogers try to follow the set number too. So for "lord of the
rings" the first set number in that theme
has the first two "lor" figure numbers
and the next set
has the next three "lor" figure numbers.
However, there are probably scenarios where the sets aren't cataloged in
the same order as their sequential set number, but I think this is a loose goal.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 13:41 | | Subject: | Re: Who decides the minifig item No? | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
I guess for most categories it is basically the order
| | in which the figures were released.
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Roughly, yes.
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| Author: | Hamster_Prod | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 13:40 | | Subject: | Re: Who decides the minifig item No? | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, WoutR writes:
| | In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
| | Hi,
This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?
For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)
As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.
So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?
I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!
Thanks in advance,
Josh
|
See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168
on item numbers
and https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
on adding items to the catalog
|
Ah, thanks. That explains it. So it comes from the order in which folks on bricklink
added it to the catalogue. I guess for most categories it is basically the order
in which the figures were released.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 13:31 | | Subject: | Re: Who decides the minifig item No? | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| But to answer more fully, the numbers you see here are Bricklink's. I have
seen them used on eBay because Bricklink is the preeminent catalog. I assume
Brickowl has their own system, but perhaps they follow us.
In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
| | Hi,
This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?
For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)
As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.
So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?
I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!
Thanks in advance,
Josh
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No one decides but fate. When you are naming a new minifig, you use the next
number available.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 13:29 | | Subject: | Re: Who decides the minifig item No? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
| | Hi,
This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?
For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)
As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.
So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?
I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!
Thanks in advance,
Josh
|
See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168
on item numbers
and https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
on adding items to the catalog
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 13:29 | | Subject: | Re: Who decides the minifig item No? | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
| | Hi,
This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?
For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)
As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.
So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?
I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!
Thanks in advance,
Josh
|
No one decides but fate. When you are naming a new minifig, you use the next
number available.
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| Author: | Hamster_Prod | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 13:23 | | Subject: | Who decides the minifig item No? | | Viewed: | 140 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Hi,
This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?
For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)
As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.
So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?
I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!
Thanks in advance,
Josh
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 11:46 | | Subject: | Re: New Relationship Match | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, hpoort writes:
| | Is there a flag you can set so that this relation type also shows up at catalog
item pages like other relations?
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No. Frankly, I'm not sure why we need one. Every item on the list should
have, at a minimum, an additional note and preferably also a comparison image.
So specifying on an individual catalog entry itself that a part is flagged as
a part variant is unnecessary.
| | Or is this up to admin Russell to get a developer onto this?
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If there were a developer on it, we would not have needed to use the relationship
match in this way. 
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 11:29 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.
|
Gots to be honest with you, I'm still wondering. Can you post an image of
the two parts attached side by side on a 1 x 4 plate (any color)?
Just want to be certain since this part was released (according to our timeline)
five years after the LBG colour change.
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In my opinion, the additional notes are not best used to admonish sellers in
a patronizing and condescending tone.
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More criticism for the catalog admin team, I see.
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In this case, I think the criticism was justified.
I am happy to see that the Additional notes were updated.
[p=88072]
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| Author: | tonnic | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 08:20 | | Subject: | Re: SOA part in 5541 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, electricbaer writes:
| | In Catalog, tonnic writes:
| | In Catalog, electricbaer writes:
| | I have the small stickers that fit over the blue 6541 and the blue 4070 to this
set as they are applied in the first model. However in the alternate build for
this set, they look to be applied to a 1 x 6 brick.
Do they qualify to be added as a SOA part, and also as a brick decorated part
to the catalog, or are they nullified from being added since they can be applied
in multiple configurations in this set?
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You do not want to know what SOA means in the Netherlands.
I understand this is the best way to make the description short but the association
is grose.
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Welp, curiosity always had to kill the cat. You know I had to go search it after
you told me what I didn't want to know 
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Don’t say I didn’t warn you!
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| Author: | electricbaer | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 08:18 | | Subject: | Re: SOA part in 5541 | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, tonnic writes:
| | In Catalog, electricbaer writes:
| | I have the small stickers that fit over the blue 6541 and the blue 4070 to this
set as they are applied in the first model. However in the alternate build for
this set, they look to be applied to a 1 x 6 brick.
Do they qualify to be added as a SOA part, and also as a brick decorated part
to the catalog, or are they nullified from being added since they can be applied
in multiple configurations in this set?
|
You do not want to know what SOA means in the Netherlands.
I understand this is the best way to make the description short but the association
is grose.
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Welp, curiosity always had to kill the cat. You know I had to go search it after
you told me what I didn't want to know
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| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 06:58 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.
|
Gots to be honest with you, I'm still wondering. Can you post an image of
the two parts attached side by side on a 1 x 4 plate (any color)?
Just want to be certain since this part was released (according to our timeline)
five years after the LBG colour change.
|
In my opinion, the additional notes are not best used to admonish sellers in
a patronizing and condescending tone.
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More criticism for the catalog admin team, I see.
|
An admin appears to agree that the additional notes are "fairly snarky" out of
"frustration over sellers just not getting the difference."
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1202493
In my opinion, since users aiming their frustration at admins is discouraged,
admins using the catalog to aim their frustrations at sellers should also be
discouraged.
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| Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 06:55 | | Subject: | Re: New Relationship Match | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
Nice way to see them in one list
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| Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 06:50 | | Subject: | Re: New Relationship Match | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
Great idea to do it this way.
Is there a flag you can set so that this relation type also shows up at catalog
item pages like other relations? Or is this up to admin Russell to get a developer
onto this?
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| Author: | tonnic | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 04:20 | | Subject: | Re: SOA part in 5541 | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, electricbaer writes:
| | I have the small stickers that fit over the blue 6541 and the blue 4070 to this
set as they are applied in the first model. However in the alternate build for
this set, they look to be applied to a 1 x 6 brick.
Do they qualify to be added as a SOA part, and also as a brick decorated part
to the catalog, or are they nullified from being added since they can be applied
in multiple configurations in this set?
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You do not want to know what SOA means in the Netherlands.
I understand this is the best way to make the description short but the association
is grose.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 02:46 | | Subject: | Re: SOA part in 5541 | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, electricbaer writes:
| | I have the small stickers that fit over the blue 6541 and the blue 4070 to this
set as they are applied in the first model. However in the alternate build for
this set, they look to be applied to a 1 x 6 brick.
Do they qualify to be added as a SOA part, and also as a brick decorated part
to the catalog, or are they nullified from being added since they can be applied
in multiple configurations in this set?
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They do qualify and can be added.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 02:45 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 86 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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BrickLink
ID CardAdmin_Russell
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Location:  USA, California |
| Member Since |
Contact |
Type |
Status |
| May 9, 2017 |
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Admin |
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| BrickLink Administrator |
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| In Catalog, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.
|
Gots to be honest with you, I'm still wondering. Can you post an image of
the two parts attached side by side on a 1 x 4 plate (any color)?
Just want to be certain since this part was released (according to our timeline)
five years after the LBG colour change.
|
In my opinion, the additional notes are not best used to admonish sellers in
a patronizing and condescending tone.
|
More criticism for the catalog admin team, I see.
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| Author: | jbroman | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 01:12 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, 62Bricks writes:
| | In my opinion, the additional notes are not best used to admonish sellers in
a patronizing and condescending tone.
|
Instead of "Please be wary of the difference...", it would be better to have
"Please be aware of the difference..."
Wary means feeling or showing caution about possible dangers or problems.
Aware means knowing that something exists, or having knowledge or experience
of a particular thing.
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| Author: | electricbaer | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 23:35 | | Subject: | SOA part in 5541 | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| I have the small stickers that fit over the blue 6541 and the blue 4070 to this
set as they are applied in the first model. However in the alternate build for
this set, they look to be applied to a 1 x 6 brick.
Do they qualify to be added as a SOA part, and also as a brick decorated part
to the catalog, or are they nullified from being added since they can be applied
in multiple configurations in this set?
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 22:58 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I strongly object to this resolution.
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| | both as a buyer or seller, I would care about the variant
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I don't care whatsoever about this variant difference (personally, as opposed
to in any official capacity). Wouldn't it be great if BrickLink handled
variants in a way that would serve you and I equally well?
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 21:13 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Legoboy_II writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | | | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
When and why did you stop beating your wife?
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| | | | In Catalog, Legoboy_II writes:
I think you owe the Community a sincere apology for
such a personal and unwarranted attack against my
deceased wife, whom you didn't even know and had
absolutely no reason to drag into your argument.
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I’m not sure this is serious due to the way it’s worded but if I owe an apology,
I’d sincerely apologize to you, your wife’s memory, and her family and friends
for having mentioned an hypothetical wife of yours in a rhetorical argument and
triggered painful memories of a dearly departed.
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Seriously!? While I have never committed the most heinous and vile crime you
accuse me of, as an LEO and EMS responder, I have seen more than my fair share
of domestic violence. I find your willingness to use such imagery as a comedic
prop, repugnant.
| | | | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | I believe that was a rhetorical question meant as an example to show that the
questions that were being asked were not really relevant when there is an even
bigger underlying problem that is not being addressed.
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It’s also a trap question that can’t be answered without verifying (making true)
the tacit premise (asking about circumstances of something stopping implies the
something existed).
Did you stop eating snails?
— Yes ≫ Yuck! You ate snails.
— No ≫ Yuck! You’re still eating snails.
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The fact your patently false statements, and lack of remorse, are endorsed by
TLG administration, is disconcerting, as well.
Fortunately, I am an extendedly tolerant man and personally unfazed by such attacks,
I only bother to address this matter because you both have offended the honor
of a person I continue to hold in the highest regard, who never sinned against
either of you, and who didn't deserve to be disparaged. Your follies to falsely
hold out a kind and gentle soul, as a victim of a true social ill, only diminish
the voice of the real victims of abuse.
Shame on you both!
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Please do not continue to include me in this. The fact that you are assuming
that I condoned the behavior is insulting and offensive to me.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 21:04 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | The catalog for this part is now officially a mess, and an admin need to work
on fixing this.
|
Honestly, I'm tempted to merge them. There is little reason for this part
to be split over an excessively confusing difference that requires no less than
three comparison images.
And, of course, a fairly snarky additional note that is clearly the result of
frustration over sellers just not getting the difference (and blaming them for
the problem that BrickLink created).
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I strongly object to this resolution. As SylvainLS points out, they are functionally
different, and IMHO they are not interchangable, and both as a buyer or seller,
I would care about the variant (as I do today).
I think a better resolution would be to rename part 88072 to 4623b (and keep
part number 88072 secondary), then make 4623 "undetermined arm length" and create
a new part 4623a for the 6 mm variant.
/Jan
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Well this totally went in a direction I wasn't expecting! Interesting discovery,
Jan!
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 21:02 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Legoboy_II writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Legoboy_II writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| |
When and why did you stop beating your wife?
|
I think you owe the Community a sincere apology for
such a personal and unwarranted attack against my
deceased wife, whom you didn't even know and had
absolutely no reason to drag into your argument.
|
I believe that was a rhetorical question meant as an example to show that the
questions that were being asked were not really relevant when there is an even
bigger underlying problem that is not being addressed.
|
I cannot believe you would defend such reprehensible behaviour... if that were
the point, there are less personal ways of making it.
|
Hold on now. I did not say that I was defending it or that I thought it was a
tactful example. I was just explaining what I *thought* they meant by it.
|
|
| Author: | Legoboy_II | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 20:29 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | | | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
When and why did you stop beating your wife?
|
| | | | In Catalog, Legoboy_II writes:
I think you owe the Community a sincere apology for
such a personal and unwarranted attack against my
deceased wife, whom you didn't even know and had
absolutely no reason to drag into your argument.
|
|
I’m not sure this is serious due to the way it’s worded but if I owe an apology,
I’d sincerely apologize to you, your wife’s memory, and her family and friends
for having mentioned an hypothetical wife of yours in a rhetorical argument and
triggered painful memories of a dearly departed.
|
Seriously!? While I have never committed the most heinous and vile crime you
accuse me of, as an LEO and EMS responder, I have seen more than my fair share
of domestic violence. I find your willingness to use such imagery as a comedic
prop, repugnant.
| | | | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | I believe that was a rhetorical question meant as an example to show that the
questions that were being asked were not really relevant when there is an even
bigger underlying problem that is not being addressed.
|
|
It’s also a trap question that can’t be answered without verifying (making true)
the tacit premise (asking about circumstances of something stopping implies the
something existed).
Did you stop eating snails?
— Yes ≫ Yuck! You ate snails.
— No ≫ Yuck! You’re still eating snails.
|
The fact your patently false statements, and lack of remorse, are endorsed by
TLG administration, is disconcerting, as well.
Fortunately, I am an extendedly tolerant man and personally unfazed by such attacks,
I only bother to address this matter because you both have offended the honor
of a person I continue to hold in the highest regard, who never sinned against
either of you, and who didn't deserve to be disparaged. Your follies to falsely
hold out a kind and gentle soul, as a victim of a true social ill, only diminish
the voice of the real victims of abuse.
Shame on you both!
|
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 19:36 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | […]
Ah, I remember having trouble identifying the variants I had when I got out of
my Dark Ages. I thought I was holding them wrong and trusted the catalogue(s)
As with all my old parts, the “Antiques” (pre-Dark Ages) are stored separately.
So, I have 3 Black and 1 LG SHORT 4623 (and 3 Black and 2 White long ones).
They come from
Yes, one Black is missing, I have to hunt it down.
|
Found it. And he’s a shorty.
So, 4 short, 3 long in Black. That may mean 6011 was a long. Or it might not.
|
|
| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 19:34 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | The catalog for this part is now officially a mess, and an admin need to work
on fixing this.
|
Honestly, I'm tempted to merge them. There is little reason for this part
to be split over an excessively confusing difference that requires no less than
three comparison images.
And, of course, a fairly snarky additional note that is clearly the result of
frustration over sellers just not getting the difference (and blaming them for
the problem that BrickLink created).
|
I strongly object to this resolution. As SylvainLS points out, they are functionally
different, and IMHO they are not interchangable, and both as a buyer or seller,
I would care about the variant (as I do today).
I think a better resolution would be to rename part 88072 to 4623b (and keep
part number 88072 secondary), then make 4623 "undetermined arm length" and create
a new part 4623a for the 6 mm variant.
/Jan
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 19:25 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | The catalog for this part is now officially a mess, and an admin need to work
on fixing this.
|
Honestly, I'm tempted to merge them. There is little reason for this part
to be split over an excessively confusing difference that requires no less than
three comparison images.
|
But but but, they are functionnaly different! 
|
Merging the entries will of course rid the admins of any more problems, but only
by handing them off to the users.
The parts are not always interchangeable. The assembly below from set 6398, for
example, requires the 6mm version. Elsewhere in the set, a white one is used
as a hook for a helmet. It is possible to use the 5mm version for that one, but
the helmet has to be pushed into place and it stresses the parts.
|
|
|
| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 19:09 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | The catalog for this part is now officially a mess, and an admin need to work
on fixing this.
|
Honestly, I'm tempted to merge them. There is little reason for this part
to be split over an excessively confusing difference that requires no less than
three comparison images.
|
But but but, they are functionnaly different!
| | And, of course, a fairly snarky additional note that is clearly the result of
frustration over sellers just not getting the difference (and blaming them for
the problem that BrickLink created).
|
|
|
| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 19:08 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | | | I have several light gray with the shorter arm. They are light gray, not yellowed
LBG, and they are marked 4623.
|
Ouch, I just checked all 5mm versions that I currently have for sale. I found
one blue and about half of my black ones (13) bearing mold number 4623. I can
therefore conclude that mold number 4623 was used for both versions of this part
(I have checked the 6mm versions also, they also bear this number).
I ought to have seen this already this a month ago when I was double-checking
the contents of my childhood sets. Those sets have been mixed together, but for
my mid-80's castle sets, I was wondering why all of them had 5 mm versions
when the inventories stated they had to be 6 mm. Not a single 6 mm found among
those sets. So I replaced the parts with 6 mm versions believing this was the
right thing to do. But now I know why I didn't find the 6 mm art in them.
The 5 mm version was apparently already in use during the 80's with the same
mold number.
The catalog for this part is now officially a mess, and an admin need to work
on fixing this. Sorry to be the messenger. 
|
Ah, I remember having trouble identifying the variants I had when I got out of
my Dark Ages. I thought I was holding them wrong and trusted the catalogue(s)
As with all my old parts, the “Antiques” (pre-Dark Ages) are stored separately.
So, I have 3 Black and 1 LG SHORT 4623 (and 3 Black and 2 White long ones).
They come from
Yes, one Black is missing, I have to hunt it down.
|
|
| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 19:03 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | The catalog for this part is now officially a mess, and an admin need to work
on fixing this.
|
Honestly, I'm tempted to merge them. There is little reason for this part
to be split over an excessively confusing difference that requires no less than
three comparison images.
And, of course, a fairly snarky additional note that is clearly the result of
frustration over sellers just not getting the difference (and blaming them for
the problem that BrickLink created).
|
|
| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 17:56 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| | | I have several light gray with the shorter arm. They are light gray, not yellowed
LBG, and they are marked 4623.
|
Ouch, I just checked all 5mm versions that I currently have for sale. I found
one blue and about half of my black ones (13) bearing mold number 4623. I can
therefore conclude that mold number 4623 was used for both versions of this part
(I have checked the 6mm versions also, they also bear this number).
I ought to have seen this already this a month ago when I was double-checking
the contents of my childhood sets. Those sets have been mixed together, but for
my mid-80's castle sets, I was wondering why all of them had 5 mm versions
when the inventories stated they had to be 6 mm. Not a single 6 mm found among
those sets. So I replaced the parts with 6 mm versions believing this was the
right thing to do. But now I know why I didn't find the 6 mm art in them.
The 5 mm version was apparently already in use during the 80's with the same
mold number.
The catalog for this part is now officially a mess, and an admin need to work
on fixing this. Sorry to be the messenger.
/Jan
|
|
| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 16:55 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Legoboy_II writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| |
When and why did you stop beating your wife?
|
I think you owe the Community a sincere apology for
such a personal and unwarranted attack against my
deceased wife, whom you didn't even know and had
absolutely no reason to drag into your argument.
|
|
I’m not sure this is serious due to the way it’s worded but if I owe an apology,
I’d sincerely apologize to you, your wife’s memory, and her family and friends
for having mentioned an hypothetical wife of yours in a rhetorical argument and
triggered painful memories of a dearly departed.
| | I believe that was a rhetorical question meant as an example to show that the
questions that were being asked were not really relevant when there is an even
bigger underlying problem that is not being addressed.
|
It’s also a trap question that can’t be answered without verifying (making true)
the tacit premise (asking about circumstances of something stopping implies the
something existed).
Did you stop eating snails?
— Yes ≫ Yuck! You ate snails.
— No ≫ Yuck! You’re still eating snails.
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 16:45 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.
|
Gots to be honest with you, I'm still wondering. Can you post an image of
the two parts attached side by side on a 1 x 4 plate (any color)?
Just want to be certain since this part was released (according to our timeline)
five years after the LBG colour change.
|
In my opinion, the additional notes are not best used to admonish sellers in
a patronizing and condescending tone.
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 16:38 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | | | I can see a bit of light bluish gray around the base of one of the studs on the
part you are saying is light gray. I believe you have a damaged light bluish
gray part that has been yellowed. I find it *very* hard to believe that this
mold would have been used to make parts in a color that had been retired for
*years* before the mold was ever even manufactured.
|
I am not convinced that there is any LBG on this part. I have checked under magnifyning
glass, it has to be some lighting issue. The color is the same on all sides,
even inside. What's even stranger: I've just seen (in the magnifying
glass), that the mold number says 4623, but it's not a 6 mm arm, it's
5 mm (see another attached image).
Could this be a prototype of the upcoming 5 mm change back in the days?
/Jan
|
I have several light gray with the shorter arm. They are light gray, not yellowed
LBG, and they are marked 4623.
|
|
| Author: | Legoboy_II | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 16:37 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Legoboy_II writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| |
When and why did you stop beating your wife?
|
I think you owe the Community a sincere apology for
such a personal and unwarranted attack against my
deceased wife, whom you didn't even know and had
absolutely no reason to drag into your argument.
|
I believe that was a rhetorical question meant as an example to show that the
questions that were being asked were not really relevant when there is an even
bigger underlying problem that is not being addressed.
|
I cannot believe you would defend such reprehensible behaviour... if that were
the point, there are less personal ways of making it.
|
|
| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 16:10 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| | | I can see a bit of light bluish gray around the base of one of the studs on the
part you are saying is light gray. I believe you have a damaged light bluish
gray part that has been yellowed. I find it *very* hard to believe that this
mold would have been used to make parts in a color that had been retired for
*years* before the mold was ever even manufactured.
|
I am not convinced that there is any LBG on this part. I have checked under magnifyning
glass, it has to be some lighting issue. The color is the same on all sides,
even inside. What's even stranger: I've just seen (in the magnifying
glass), that the mold number says 4623, but it's not a 6 mm arm, it's
5 mm (see another attached image).
Could this be a prototype of the upcoming 5 mm change back in the days?
/Jan
|
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 16:03 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.
|
Gots to be honest with you, I'm still wondering. Can you post an image of
the two parts attached side by side on a 1 x 4 plate (any color)?
Just want to be certain since this part was released (according to our timeline)
five years after the LBG colour change.
|
Certainly. But a 1x4 plate? What does that accomplish, and from which angle do
you want it?
/Jan
|
I can see a bit of light bluish gray around the base of one of the studs on the
part you are saying is light gray. I believe you have a damaged light bluish
gray part that has been yellowed. I find it *very* hard to believe that this
mold would have been used to make parts in a color that had been retired for
*years* before the mold was ever even manufactured.
|
|
| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 15:56 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.
|
Gots to be honest with you, I'm still wondering. Can you post an image of
the two parts attached side by side on a 1 x 4 plate (any color)?
Just want to be certain since this part was released (according to our timeline)
five years after the LBG colour change.
|
Certainly. But a 1x4 plate? What does that accomplish, and from which angle do
you want it?
/Jan
|
|
|
| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 15:12 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.
|
Gots to be honest with you, I'm still wondering. Can you post an image of
the two parts attached side by side on a 1 x 4 plate (any color)?
Just want to be certain since this part was released (according to our timeline)
five years after the LBG colour change.
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 15:10 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Legoboy_II writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| |
When and why did you stop beating your wife?
|
I think you owe the Community a sincere apology for
such a personal and unwarranted attack against my
deceased wife, whom you didn't even know and had
absolutely no reason to drag into your argument.
|
I believe that was a rhetorical question meant as an example to show that the
questions that were being asked were not really relevant when there is an even
bigger underlying problem that is not being addressed.
|
|
| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 14:57 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Pippyblocks writes:
| | Is this part
?
In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.
/Jan
|
|
No, it's 88072 as stated. The handle is centered between the studs (see the
base as the perspective warps the image).
/Jan
|
|
| Author: | Pippysblocks | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 14:41 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| Is this part
?
In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.
/Jan
|
|
| Author: | Legoboy_II | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 14:27 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| |
When and why did you stop beating your wife?
|
I think you owe the Community a sincere apology for
such a personal and unwarranted attack against my
deceased wife, whom you didn't even know and had
absolutely no reason to drag into your argument.
|
| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 14:15 | | Subject: | 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 220 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
|
| I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.
/Jan
|
|
|
| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 12:13 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, 62Bricks writes:
| | […]
| | | | I did notice that very recently the names were changed again. And for the better,
they have included the word 'grip'in the description.
|
No, “grip” isn’t in the description.
|
|
I mean, “grip” wasn’t in the descriptions as of a few days ago, when you started
this thread. So it’s not part of the change you think occured, it’s a consequence
of this thread.
| | […]
Regardless of the history of the nomenclature, it is confusing and is not based
on describing the shape of the part itself. It is based on one attribute of a
part it may attach to.
|
Yes. The only clip-like part for which “vertical/horizontal” as used here could
make sense is the minifig hand (because of the already established meaning of
“vertical/horizontal” for human hands). And that part isn’t described as a clip
nor has “clip” nor any orientation in its description….
| | […]
It was a short-sighted initial decision and it has unfortunately been perpetuated.
|
Yes.
And it’s a difficult decision to correct now, as there isn’t any other pair than
vertical/horizontal (that I know of) to describe the difference between the clips.
The only way would be to swap the meanings of vertical and horizontal, creating
confusion.
(Hence the latest change from “clip vertical” to “clip (vertical grip).”)
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 11:39 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, Northwinds writes:
| |
Which are both irrelevant questions because the names didn’t change.
With al due respect but how can you be so sure?
I've been selling here since 2000.
My inventory boxes carry the stickers with the old names since that date,
|
[P=30241b]
That part appeared in 2008/2009.
| | these
names were changed sometime in the past 20 years, I only did not notice
this until just a few months ago.
|
Peeron’s name (60475): Brick 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical
Peeron hasn’t been updated since 2011. (They have only one variant. 30241 is
just appearing in notes in 60475’s list of sets.)
LDraw’s names:
(60475a): Brick 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical (Thick C-Clip) and Solid Stud
(60475b): Brick 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical (Thick C-Clip) and Hollow Stud
Rebrickable:
(60475a): Brick Special 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical [Thick U Clip, Solid Stud]
(60475b): Brick Special 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical [Open O Clip, Hollow Stud]
Same motive, same punition with BrickOwl.
They all agree on what “vertical” means for this part.
They all agree on what “vertical” means for all the parts with clips.
As the part is “recent” (2008/2009), it’s not on lugnet (which died in 2002),
but lugnet agrees with everybody else on what “vertical” means for parts with
clips.
There’s no traces whatsoever of a change of names.
Those are facts, not memories.
On your side, you’re saying they all changed their names together, without leaving
any trace but your labels, twice!
What are the chances you made a mistake with your labels instead?
| | I did notice that very recently the names were changed again. And for the better,
they have included the word 'grip'in the description.
|
No, “grip” isn’t in the description.
|
Perhaps the OP simply set up their labels in a way that makes sense by describing
the part itself rather than how it is sometimes used, and his error is that he
assumed the rest of the Lego community would also follow common sense.
The way Lego describes these parts is more accurate and does not rely on defining
it by a particular usage. It is the "describe it by its use and not its shape"
philosophy that created the widely inconsistent Bricklink categories. Clips are
not always used as clips. Sometimes they are used merely as decoration. And when
they are used as clips, the parts held by them are not necessarily oriented in
a certain way. The clips are designed to allow for movement and are often used
as hinge parts, allowing the attached part to move from horizontal to vertical
around the attachment point.
Regardless of the history of the nomenclature, it is confusing and is not based
on describing the shape of the part itself. It is based on one attribute of a
part it may attach to. The bar on the other part may be oriented horizontally
or vertically relative to the part, so the full part with the bar may be oriented
opposite to the name of the clip.
Attach
to a "vertical" clip and it will be oriented horizontally. Sideways.
It was a short-sighted initial decision and it has unfortunately been perpetuated.
|
|
| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 10:14 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Northwinds writes:
| |
Which are both irrelevant questions because the names didn’t change.
With al due respect but how can you be so sure?
I've been selling here since 2000.
My inventory boxes carry the stickers with the old names since that date,
|
[P=30241b]
That part appeared in 2008/2009.
| | these
names were changed sometime in the past 20 years, I only did not notice
this until just a few months ago.
|
Peeron’s name (60475): Brick 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical
Peeron hasn’t been updated since 2011. (They have only one variant. 30241 is
just appearing in notes in 60475’s list of sets.)
LDraw’s names:
(60475a): Brick 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical (Thick C-Clip) and Solid Stud
(60475b): Brick 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical (Thick C-Clip) and Hollow Stud
Rebrickable:
(60475a): Brick Special 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical [Thick U Clip, Solid Stud]
(60475b): Brick Special 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical [Open O Clip, Hollow Stud]
Same motive, same punition with BrickOwl.
They all agree on what “vertical” means for this part.
They all agree on what “vertical” means for all the parts with clips.
As the part is “recent” (2008/2009), it’s not on lugnet (which died in 2002),
but lugnet agrees with everybody else on what “vertical” means for parts with
clips.
There’s no traces whatsoever of a change of names.
Those are facts, not memories.
On your side, you’re saying they all changed their names together, without leaving
any trace but your labels, twice!
What are the chances you made a mistake with your labels instead?
| | I did notice that very recently the names were changed again. And for the better,
they have included the word 'grip'in the description.
|
No, “grip” isn’t in the description.
|
|
| Author: | Northwinds | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 03:44 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
|
Which are both irrelevant questions because the names didn’t change.
With al due respect but how can you be so sure?
I've been selling here since 2000.
My inventory boxes carry the stickers with the old names since that date, these
names were changed sometime in the past 20 years, I only did not notice
this until just a few months ago.
I did notice that very recently the names were changed again. And for the better,
they have included the word 'grip'in the description.
Peter
|
|
| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jun 6, 2020 12:03 | | Subject: | Re: did i do something wrong? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, markim writes:
| | I think i submitted a request! Thanks!
|
It looks like you are doing a lot of things right!
Well done
|
|
| Author: | markim | | Posted: | Jun 5, 2020 14:41 | | Subject: | Re: did i do something wrong? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, paulvdb writes:
| | In Catalog, markim writes:
| | Hey fellow bricklinkers,
Today i parted out 20 times set 41916 - dots series 2 charms.
I added half of the printed tiles to the catalog (the other half was already
there), but it is not added to the set inventory. Am I to impatient or did i
do something wrong in adding?
Very curious in discovering (still...) the adding to the catalog functions 
Thx for your insights! - Marielle
|
Hi, after they are added to the catalog they still have to be added to the set
inventory. You can submit an inventory change request to add them to the inventory
at https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChange.asp?itemType=S
|
I think i submitted a request! Thanks!
|
|
| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Jun 5, 2020 14:32 | | Subject: | Re: did i do something wrong? | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, markim writes:
| | Hey fellow bricklinkers,
Today i parted out 20 times set 41916 - dots series 2 charms.
I added half of the printed tiles to the catalog (the other half was already
there), but it is not added to the set inventory. Am I to impatient or did i
do something wrong in adding?
Very curious in discovering (still...) the adding to the catalog functions
Thx for your insights! - Marielle
|
Hi, after they are added to the catalog they still have to be added to the set
inventory. You can submit an inventory change request to add them to the inventory
at https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChange.asp?itemType=S
|
|
| Author: | markim | | Posted: | Jun 5, 2020 14:28 | | Subject: | did i do something wrong? | | Viewed: | 153 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
|
| Hey fellow bricklinkers,
Today i parted out 20 times set 41916 - dots series 2 charms.
I added half of the printed tiles to the catalog (the other half was already
there), but it is not added to the set inventory. Am I to impatient or did i
do something wrong in adding?
Very curious in discovering (still...) the adding to the catalog functions
Thx for your insights! - Marielle
|
|
| Author: | primadeluxe | | Posted: | Jun 5, 2020 09:33 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| 🎈🎉🎈🎊👍😃
In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Hello everyone,
I have some long-awaited news for you! We have created a new Catalog Admin position
which has privileges on both sides of the system, the catalog and inventories.
This is a culmination of about 3 years of work, and we are so proud of our first
ever member to take this position, Hygrotus.
He has steadily worked his way up to this level from his years of being an outstanding
and reliable contributor, to a special class of contributor known as an Inventories
Verifier, to one year experience as an Inv Admin, and then most recently about
14 months as a Catalog Associate. We are pleased that he has stuck with the program
and now is going to forge ahead.
We are combining the two "halves" of the system for many reasons, but the main
one being efficiency. If only one admin is available on a given weekend, for
example, we can take care of contributions on both sides, which are often dependent
on each other.
We will retain the Catalog Associate and Inv Admin positions for the purpose
of training new Catalog Admins. They will be considered transitory positions.
For more info on the Community Expert Program, please see this post:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1196395
You may also visit our Community Expert Program page:
https://www.bricklink.com/memberAdmins.asp
and also read a few FAQs in the Help Center:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=974
|
|
|
| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 22:36 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| Congratulations 
In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Hello everyone,
I have some long-awaited news for you! We have created a new Catalog Admin position
which has privileges on both sides of the system, the catalog and inventories.
This is a culmination of about 3 years of work, and we are so proud of our first
ever member to take this position, Hygrotus.
He has steadily worked his way up to this level from his years of being an outstanding
and reliable contributor, to a special class of contributor known as an Inventories
Verifier, to one year experience as an Inv Admin, and then most recently about
14 months as a Catalog Associate. We are pleased that he has stuck with the program
and now is going to forge ahead.
We are combining the two "halves" of the system for many reasons, but the main
one being efficiency. If only one admin is available on a given weekend, for
example, we can take care of contributions on both sides, which are often dependent
on each other.
We will retain the Catalog Associate and Inv Admin positions for the purpose
of training new Catalog Admins. They will be considered transitory positions.
For more info on the Community Expert Program, please see this post:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1196395
You may also visit our Community Expert Program page:
https://www.bricklink.com/memberAdmins.asp
and also read a few FAQs in the Help Center:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=974
|
|
|
| Author: | Reki_Lobsheek | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 17:25 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| Well chosen IMO. Congrats Hygrotus!!
Erikk
|
| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 15:26 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, agulus writes:
| | Gratulacje!!!
|
Dziękuję, pozdrawiam
|
| Author: | agulus | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 14:56 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| | Gratulacje!!! |
|
| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 14:41 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Hello everyone,
I have some long-awaited news for you! We have created a new Catalog Admin position
which has privileges on both sides of the system, the catalog and inventories.
This is a culmination of about 3 years of work, and we are so proud of our first
ever member to take this position, Hygrotus.
He has steadily worked his way up to this level from his years of being an outstanding
and reliable contributor, to a special class of contributor known as an Inventories
Verifier, to one year experience as an Inv Admin, and then most recently about
14 months as a Catalog Associate. We are pleased that he has stuck with the program
and now is going to forge ahead.
We are combining the two "halves" of the system for many reasons, but the main
one being efficiency. If only one admin is available on a given weekend, for
example, we can take care of contributions on both sides, which are often dependent
on each other.
We will retain the Catalog Associate and Inv Admin positions for the purpose
of training new Catalog Admins. They will be considered transitory positions.
For more info on the Community Expert Program, please see this post:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1196395
You may also visit our Community Expert Program page:
https://www.bricklink.com/memberAdmins.asp
and also read a few FAQs in the Help Center:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=974
|
Congratulations Hygrotus!
|
|
| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 14:38 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
BLs' lucky to have you, Marek. You, and the absolutely superb and talented
others of the catalog team. It is the 'Dream Team' for BL, IMHO.
A little backstory or human side to Marek, beyond the beetle guy his ID Card
reflects: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1133497
|
so let listen someting from Dream Theater
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIlIz8cw_gA
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 14:36 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | Congrats!
In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | […]
He really needs to put in some Inventory Change Requests.
|
Maybe he should make errors on purpose, so that he can correct them just after.
Doubling the contributions!
And the work….
Okay, so maybe not
| | Keep up the good work, Marek!
|
+1
|
Thank you all
|
| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 12:42 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| Congrats!
In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | […]
He really needs to put in some Inventory Change Requests.
|
Maybe he should make errors on purpose, so that he can correct them just after.
Doubling the contributions!
And the work….
Okay, so maybe not
| | Keep up the good work, Marek!
|
+1
|
| Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 12:14 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| A massive 👍
In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
|
| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 11:49 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
Congratulations!
|
| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 11:02 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | Congrats Hygrotus! And thanks for all the work you're doing
|
I second this. He puts in far more work than many people realize for the site.
Check out the list of top contributors:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogMembers.asp
The contributions page shows he is in the top four contributors for all but a
single category. And that page reflects the entire 20-year history of BrickLink.
|
He really needs to put in some Inventory Change Requests.
Keep up the good work, Marek!
|
|
| Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 11:01 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| Yes, congrats and thank you so much for all you do for BrickLink!
In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | Congrats Hygrotus! And thanks for all the work you're doing
|
I second this. He puts in far more work than many people realize for the site.
Check out the list of top contributors:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogMembers.asp
|
I love this page. It's good food for those of us who are a wee bit competitive.
Jen
| |
The contributions page shows he is in the top four contributors for all but a
single category. And that page reflects the entire 20-year history of BrickLink.
|
|
|
| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 10:54 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | Congrats Hygrotus! And thanks for all the work you're doing
|
I second this. He puts in far more work than many people realize for the site.
Check out the list of top contributors:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogMembers.asp
The contributions page shows he is in the top four contributors for all but a
single category. And that page reflects the entire 20-year history of BrickLink.
|
|
| Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 10:43 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
BLs' lucky to have you, Marek. You, and the absolutely superb and talented
others of the catalog team. It is the 'Dream Team' for BL, IMHO.
A little backstory or human side to Marek, beyond the beetle guy his ID Card
reflects: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1133497
|
| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 10:26 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| | Thank you all! |
|
| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 08:51 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Hello everyone,
I have some long-awaited news for you! We have created a new Catalog Admin position
which has privileges on both sides of the system, the catalog and inventories.
This is a culmination of about 3 years of work, and we are so proud of our first
ever member to take this position, Hygrotus.
He has steadily worked his way up to this level from his years of being an outstanding
and reliable contributor, to a special class of contributor known as an Inventories
Verifier, to one year experience as an Inv Admin, and then most recently about
14 months as a Catalog Associate. We are pleased that he has stuck with the program
and now is going to forge ahead.
We are combining the two "halves" of the system for many reasons, but the main
one being efficiency. If only one admin is available on a given weekend, for
example, we can take care of contributions on both sides, which are often dependent
on each other.
We will retain the Catalog Associate and Inv Admin positions for the purpose
of training new Catalog Admins. They will be considered transitory positions.
For more info on the Community Expert Program, please see this post:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1196395
You may also visit our Community Expert Program page:
https://www.bricklink.com/memberAdmins.asp
and also read a few FAQs in the Help Center:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=974
|
Congrats Hygrotus! And thanks for all the work you're doing
|
|
| Author: | electricbaer | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 08:45 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Hello everyone,
I have some long-awaited news for you! We have created a new Catalog Admin position
which has privileges on both sides of the system, the catalog and inventories.
This is a culmination of about 3 years of work, and we are so proud of our first
ever member to take this position, Hygrotus.
He has steadily worked his way up to this level from his years of being an outstanding
and reliable contributor, to a special class of contributor known as an Inventories
Verifier, to one year experience as an Inv Admin, and then most recently about
14 months as a Catalog Associate. We are pleased that he has stuck with the program
and now is going to forge ahead.
We are combining the two "halves" of the system for many reasons, but the main
one being efficiency. If only one admin is available on a given weekend, for
example, we can take care of contributions on both sides, which are often dependent
on each other.
We will retain the Catalog Associate and Inv Admin positions for the purpose
of training new Catalog Admins. They will be considered transitory positions.
For more info on the Community Expert Program, please see this post:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1196395
You may also visit our Community Expert Program page:
https://www.bricklink.com/memberAdmins.asp
and also read a few FAQs in the Help Center:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=974
|
Congrats!
|
|
| Author: | BrickCompulsion | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 08:44 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| Congrats on your new position
I think its worth noting that I think the catalogue in bricklink seems much better
over the last few months in terms of notes etc so kudos to thise involved and
thanks
|
|
| Author: | Emporiosa | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 07:50 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Hello everyone,
I have some long-awaited news for you! We have created a new Catalog Admin position
which has privileges on both sides of the system, the catalog and inventories.
This is a culmination of about 3 years of work, and we are so proud of our first
ever member to take this position, Hygrotus.
He has steadily worked his way up to this level from his years of being an outstanding
and reliable contributor, to a special class of contributor known as an Inventories
Verifier, to one year experience as an Inv Admin, and then most recently about
14 months as a Catalog Associate. We are pleased that he has stuck with the program
and now is going to forge ahead.
We are combining the two "halves" of the system for many reasons, but the main
one being efficiency. If only one admin is available on a given weekend, for
example, we can take care of contributions on both sides, which are often dependent
on each other.
We will retain the Catalog Associate and Inv Admin positions for the purpose
of training new Catalog Admins. They will be considered transitory positions.
For more info on the Community Expert Program, please see this post:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1196395
You may also visit our Community Expert Program page:
https://www.bricklink.com/memberAdmins.asp
and also read a few FAQs in the Help Center:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=974
|
Awesome! Congratulations Hygrotus!
|
|
| Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 07:48 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| Great news!
In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Hello everyone,
I have some long-awaited news for you! We have created a new Catalog Admin position
which has privileges on both sides of the system, the catalog and inventories.
This is a culmination of about 3 years of work, and we are so proud of our first
ever member to take this position, Hygrotus.
He has steadily worked his way up to this level from his years of being an outstanding
and reliable contributor, to a special class of contributor known as an Inventories
Verifier, to one year experience as an Inv Admin, and then most recently about
14 months as a Catalog Associate. We are pleased that he has stuck with the program
and now is going to forge ahead.
We are combining the two "halves" of the system for many reasons, but the main
one being efficiency. If only one admin is available on a given weekend, for
example, we can take care of contributions on both sides, which are often dependent
on each other.
We will retain the Catalog Associate and Inv Admin positions for the purpose
of training new Catalog Admins. They will be considered transitory positions.
For more info on the Community Expert Program, please see this post:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1196395
You may also visit our Community Expert Program page:
https://www.bricklink.com/memberAdmins.asp
and also read a few FAQs in the Help Center:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=974
|
|
|
| Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 05:52 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| Congratulations.
In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Hello everyone,
I have some long-awaited news for you! We have created a new Catalog Admin position
which has privileges on both sides of the system, the catalog and inventories.
This is a culmination of about 3 years of work, and we are so proud of our first
ever member to take this position, Hygrotus.
He has steadily worked his way up to this level from his years of being an outstanding
and reliable contributor, to a special class of contributor known as an Inventories
Verifier, to one year experience as an Inv Admin, and then most recently about
14 months as a Catalog Associate. We are pleased that he has stuck with the program
and now is going to forge ahead.
We are combining the two "halves" of the system for many reasons, but the main
one being efficiency. If only one admin is available on a given weekend, for
example, we can take care of contributions on both sides, which are often dependent
on each other.
We will retain the Catalog Associate and Inv Admin positions for the purpose
of training new Catalog Admins. They will be considered transitory positions.
For more info on the Community Expert Program, please see this post:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1196395
You may also visit our Community Expert Program page:
https://www.bricklink.com/memberAdmins.asp
and also read a few FAQs in the Help Center:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=974
|
|
|
| Author: | Pippysblocks | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 04:43 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| Awesome, congrates Hygrotus
In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Hello everyone,
I have some long-awaited news for you! We have created a new Catalog Admin position
which has privileges on both sides of the system, the catalog and inventories.
This is a culmination of about 3 years of work, and we are so proud of our first
ever member to take this position, Hygrotus.
He has steadily worked his way up to this level from his years of being an outstanding
and reliable contributor, to a special class of contributor known as an Inventories
Verifier, to one year experience as an Inv Admin, and then most recently about
14 months as a Catalog Associate. We are pleased that he has stuck with the program
and now is going to forge ahead.
We are combining the two "halves" of the system for many reasons, but the main
one being efficiency. If only one admin is available on a given weekend, for
example, we can take care of contributions on both sides, which are often dependent
on each other.
We will retain the Catalog Associate and Inv Admin positions for the purpose
of training new Catalog Admins. They will be considered transitory positions.
For more info on the Community Expert Program, please see this post:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1196395
You may also visit our Community Expert Program page:
https://www.bricklink.com/memberAdmins.asp
and also read a few FAQs in the Help Center:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=974
|
|
|
| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Jun 4, 2020 04:40 | | Subject: | We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 318 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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|
BrickLink
ID CardAdmin_Russell
|
| Location: USA, California |
| Member Since |
Contact |
Type |
Status |
| May 9, 2017 |
|
Admin |
|
|
| BrickLink Administrator |
|
| Hello everyone,
I have some long-awaited news for you! We have created a new Catalog Admin position
which has privileges on both sides of the system, the catalog and inventories.
This is a culmination of about 3 years of work, and we are so proud of our first
ever member to take this position, Hygrotus.
He has steadily worked his way up to this level from his years of being an outstanding
and reliable contributor, to a special class of contributor known as an Inventories
Verifier, to one year experience as an Inv Admin, and then most recently about
14 months as a Catalog Associate. We are pleased that he has stuck with the program
and now is going to forge ahead.
We are combining the two "halves" of the system for many reasons, but the main
one being efficiency. If only one admin is available on a given weekend, for
example, we can take care of contributions on both sides, which are often dependent
on each other.
We will retain the Catalog Associate and Inv Admin positions for the purpose
of training new Catalog Admins. They will be considered transitory positions.
For more info on the Community Expert Program, please see this post:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1196395
You may also visit our Community Expert Program page:
https://www.bricklink.com/memberAdmins.asp
and also read a few FAQs in the Help Center:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=974
|
|
|
| Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Jun 3, 2020 12:55 | | Subject: | Re: Activity Book | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, jsnhghs writes:
| | In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog, jsnhghs writes:
| | Hi
I have the City Activity Book and it has printed number: 4650343
no such listing for that
but there is 4650342 for the same item, are there two versions?
thanks
|
If the ID is only 1 number apart it may be a different language.
|
Thanks for that, I guess mine has not been listed yet then? Should I/how would
I, list it?
|
Try here: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogAdd.asp
Add the item similar to the already in the catalog, and then add an image to
that item you created.
Then wait for Cat Admins to review it.
|
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| Author: | jsnhghs | | Posted: | Jun 3, 2020 12:13 | | Subject: | Re: Activity Book | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog, jsnhghs writes:
| | Hi
I have the City Activity Book and it has printed number: 4650343
no such listing for that
but there is 4650342 for the same item, are there two versions?
thanks
|
If the ID is only 1 number apart it may be a different language.
|
Thanks for that, I guess mine has not been listed yet then? Should I/how would
I, list it?
|
| Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Jun 3, 2020 11:16 | | Subject: | Re: Activity Book | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, jsnhghs writes:
| | Hi
I have the City Activity Book and it has printed number: 4650343
no such listing for that
but there is 4650342 for the same item, are there two versions?
thanks
|
If the ID is only 1 number apart it may be a different language.
|
| Author: | jsnhghs | | Posted: | Jun 3, 2020 10:36 | | Subject: | Activity Book | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
|
| Hi
I have the City Activity Book and it has printed number: 4650343
no such listing for that
but there is 4650342 for the same item, are there two versions?
thanks
|
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Jun 3, 2020 07:43 | | Subject: | Re: Torso: Misprint or Variant? | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, bje writes:
| | In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | […]
As far as I can tell the Lego part number is 4275491 and so if Lego uses this
same part code for all its set appearances then it must be a misprint. I guess
the only way to be sure would be to try using Legos Broken/missing parts service
and then painstakingly check all the sets it appears in and check the toros part
number is the same for all. […]
|
LEGO uses the same element ID for different variants and prints.
E.g. according to BL,
* | | 3626bpb0203 Minifigure, Head Dark Bluish Gray Moustache and Bushy Eyebrows, Black Cheek Lines, White Pupils Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head |
share the PCC 4524911.
(Happy example with both colour and variant differences. Grey/brown is not a
misprint.)
So you wouldn’t know whether it’s a misprint or a new “revised” print.
|
I’m sure there will be some anomalies but in your example whilst you are correct
that the brown and grey are intentional print differences and not misprints I
don’t think they actually share the same part number it’s just bricklink has
made it seem that way and for understandable reasons...
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So all of the decorated parts (with their own TLG numbers) must be renumbered
because for sure TLG does not number all of the decorated 1 x 2 tiles the same
number with an pb extension - they give each one a different number as best I
know. And then only keep the number available for a little while and do not supply
it for parts from collectible minifigs etc etc.
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The problem is Lego did some weird stuff back in that era where they merged some
head and torsos together using one single part number!? See Brickset link which
shows the combined part (Grey + Torso) as 4227735 and not 4524911
https://brickset.com/parts/4227735/mini-upper-part-no-970
So we are definitely looking at a different part in that instance but if you
search for 4227735 on Bricklink it doesn’t appear probably because a merger of
parts like this wouldn’t have fit in with the way BL do things hence why they
probably just used the same code as the brown version?
As for Lego using the same part number for mold variants this is another example
of where Lego themselves never intended anyone to take those differences so literally
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Hmm, no, the example of jumper studs was given already. It is not a matter of
being anal to recognise mold differences. You can try it yourself with this part:
Newer parts clutches, older ones fall off. I would like to think that TLG intended
that improvement, that they stopped making the old part becasue it was not doing
the job it was supposed to do and that the new part should be sold with new sets.
However, the old part came in older sets and what will you do if a buyer tells
you the old part you sent him is a fake becasue there is no way for him to know
otherwise?
| | because in Legos eyes whatever stud type was used it’s still the same part number
and it’s the all-important and relevant print decal that warrants a different
part code so in my view it’s just unfortunate the BL community has gone to such
lengths to essentially separate the same parts when most people just want the
correct print decal and don’t really care which mold was used!
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I have no idea what TLG's intentions are with mold changes and mold variants.
My question was posted in catalogue, not selling. You sell lots, not catalogue
entries. You can refer to the catalogue entry in your listing, you could also
use the catalogue image and you might even end up in the price guide for your
listing, but that all has nothing to do with the catalogue entry as reference
source, which is where my question was posted.
The only requirement BL has for you to list a lot with a refrence to the catalogue
entry, is that you must not mix new and used in the same lot. It is a general
selling offence to sell used as new in a lot, but generally not to mix variants.
So I do not think it unfortunate the catalogue can serve as a reference guide
but also as a sales tool. To do both qually well, will always be a challenge.
If every car manufacturer only makes white cars, there will be no other colours.
This does not mean that all consumers by default mostly want a white car, it
just means that car manufacturers are all the same and treat their customers
all the same, no matter what their customers might say or think.
What does happen in the BL listings though is that you frequenlty get a seller
who tells you that it is too much effort to list properly in variants, but price
their non-specific and incorrect unsorted parts at the high price for the scarcer
out of production part. In essence it is not too much work to look up the part
in priceguide, but it is too much work to list it properly. Strange - doing half
a job for the full gain.
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As for the Black Torso in question, this is still quite a current part and the
OP should still be able to determine whether it’s a misprint or intended difference
from using brickset and/or Lego site as a reference source!
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Nope, the differences in question arised in a certain time period, continued
for awhile and then stopped, as I have them from three different sets from three
different years, as I mentioned from 2008 - 2010. I also have the current catalogue
entry for that torso assembly from prior to that period and after that period.
I would agree that for reference purposes it would not even be important if it
occured in only one set at one time. I've had some misprints on tiles like
that and do not bother with it. This however, stood out for the reasons I gave
above.
The LEGO site does not keep its information nor keep a snapshot of the situation
as it was 10 years ago. The information you refer to is either:
1. kept current with current part numbers and current designs; or
2. Not a historical record of what happened.
The LEGO site is not a reference source by any stretch of the imaginaition as
it is designed as a site to sell current replacement parts, not serve as a reference
work (which is what a catalogue does).
And for reference purposes, the part in question was submitted as new entry.
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I think you misunderstand me because I’m not necessarily asking that all the
variant information that contributors have put together over the years should
be lost!
However when sellers are expected and pressured into getting certain mold variants
listed correctly this is where I have a problem because many experienced Bricklink
buyers will not always be understanding even though the seller is simply trying
to list as per the correct Lego part number/decal print yet in the eyes of many
hardcore enthusiasts and certainly the BL admins this won’t count for much if
a buyer complains regardless of what you specify in your terms??
Is it therefore the sellers fault that Bricklink has insisted that a straight
forward official Lego part code should be sorted and separated down into multiple
variants which takes time, requires more storage space and adds to confusion
and only caters for the benefit of a very minor few who care about variants?
This is also more than just a time thing as going back to my Leia head example
from another thread. You have this version 3626bpx83 of the part in Light Nougat
which is supposedly used on 8 minifigures, then you have this version 3626cpx83a
used on two minifigs and then this one 3626cpx83 only used on one minifigure
yet they were all given the same part number by Lego so who’s to say only a certain
head should be used on a certain minifig just because a slighty different mold
was used for some batches and a slightly better print was used for other batches?
Also a lot of bricklinkers like yourself are experienced and understand how Bricklink
works but this then just clouds what is expected of other less expereinced users
yet it needs to also make sense for newbie and other general bricklink users
too?
For starters if someone is looking for a head for the female padawan minifigure
are they going to instantly realise there are other search matches and sellers
beyond their small pool of initial search results? This is why even though I
have the same identical stock for this part I list it in two locations with notes
which is not ideal and I’m sure something not everyone would approve of but
again I justify doing this because not everyone is so concerned about variants
or even properly understands how to find what they need?
Also just to end on your other point about the Toros in your op. I have never
suggested the Lego site to be a complete historical reference source however
it is TLG who give their parts a part number and so it is TLG who know what was
or was'nt intended? and before I originally replied to your OP I checked
the Lego site as I knew I had once seen this particular Torso here and therefore
the point I was trying to make is that you already have all the known sets that
the Torso belongs to or at least all the sets that Bricklink or Brickset believe
this Torso belongs to. I have already checked the first set on the list 7635
which has the torso listed as part code 4275491 now if every other set has this
part listed as 4275491 then it should be clear that any different versions of
this torso are unintended misprints or colour variations.
If on the other hand you find one set with either a different part code against
the torso or you can’t even find the torso listed then this may well mean it
came with a different part code and is not a misprint!
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| Author: | jezurka | | Posted: | Jun 3, 2020 04:37 | | Subject: | Re: Catalog number 3245-Ju | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Hello
I did it. Hope it is O.k.
In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, elias3 writes:
Yes, this is a very rare item! The suffixes for catalogs were based on the Danish
spelling of the name during this time. "Jugoslavien" is what Google translate
gave me for Yugoslavia.
At some point earlier than this, the first 14 countries the LEGO Group shipped
to were all given numerical codes, from 01 to 14. I wonder which code this country
was given? The US is number 17:
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| Author: | Ruinol | | Posted: | Jun 2, 2020 15:04 | | Subject: | Re: Not being able to recognize what this is from | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Adjour writes:
| | In Catalog, Ruinol writes:
| | Anyone that knows from which set it comes, thanx!!! But maybe it's just (part
of) a MOC
|
set 6352...I think
|
THANKS ALL!! I ve got it. Well, not complete, but thats ok ))
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| Author: | taxan | | Posted: | Jun 2, 2020 14:09 | | Subject: | Re: Not being able to recognize what this is from | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Ruinol writes:
| | Anyone that knows from which set it comes, thanx!!! But maybe it's just (part
of) a MOC
|
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jun 2, 2020 13:05 | | Subject: | Re: Not being able to recognize what this is from | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Ruinol writes:
| | Anyone that knows from which set it comes, thanx!!! But maybe it's just (part
of) a MOC
|
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| Author: | Adjour | | Posted: | Jun 2, 2020 13:03 | | Subject: | Re: Not being able to recognize what this is from | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Ruinol writes:
| | Anyone that knows from which set it comes, thanx!!! But maybe it's just (part
of) a MOC
|
set 6352...I think
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| Author: | Ruinol | | Posted: | Jun 2, 2020 12:57 | | Subject: | Not being able to recognize what this is from | | Viewed: | 137 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Anyone that knows from which set it comes, thanx!!! But maybe it's just (part
of) a MOC
|
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| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Jun 2, 2020 10:27 | | Subject: | Re: Catalog number 3245-Ju | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, jezurka writes:
| | Hello
I find lego catalog which I can not find in BL inventory.
Code is 3245-Ju. Is seams it is print for Yugoslavia (language is Slovenian).
Does anyone know the year. In my opinion it is something around middle 60s.
I put picture.
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Hi
Great found!
I did a quick look at the catalog and didn't found any Yugoslavian catalog.
Please add it to the catalog.
Start here:
https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp?catType=C
Also upload your picture.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page?itemType=C
Stefaan
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| Author: | Dino | | Posted: | Jun 2, 2020 10:10 | | Subject: | Re: Catalog number 3245-Ju | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, jezurka writes:
| | Hello
I find lego catalog which I can not find in BL inventory.
Code is 3245-Ju. Is seams it is print for Yugoslavia (language is Slovenian).
Does anyone know the year. In my opinion it is something around middle 60s.
I put picture.^
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Yes, it's from 1967. Here is a side from a German catalogue.
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| Author: | Doodlebug | | Posted: | Jun 2, 2020 09:46 | | Subject: | Re: Catalog number 3245-Ju | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, jezurka writes:
| | Hello
I find lego catalog which I can not find in BL inventory.
Code is 3245-Ju. Is seams it is print for Yugoslavia (language is Slovenian).
Does anyone know the year. In my opinion it is something around middle 60s.
I put picture.
|
It is probably 1967. I say that because of the set 331 in the picture.
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Jun 2, 2020 08:18 | | Subject: | Re: Torso: Misprint or Variant? | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | […]
As far as I can tell the Lego part number is 4275491 and so if Lego uses this
same part code for all its set appearances then it must be a misprint. I guess
the only way to be sure would be to try using Legos Broken/missing parts service
and then painstakingly check all the sets it appears in and check the toros part
number is the same for all. […]
|
LEGO uses the same element ID for different variants and prints.
E.g. according to BL,
* | | 3626bpb0203 Minifigure, Head Dark Bluish Gray Moustache and Bushy Eyebrows, Black Cheek Lines, White Pupils Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head |
share the PCC 4524911.
(Happy example with both colour and variant differences. Grey/brown is not a
misprint.)
So you wouldn’t know whether it’s a misprint or a new “revised” print.
|
I’m sure there will be some anomalies but in your example whilst you are correct
that the brown and grey are intentional print differences and not misprints I
don’t think they actually share the same part number it’s just bricklink has
made it seem that way and for understandable reasons...
|
So all of the decorated parts (with their own TLG numbers) must be renumbered
because for sure TLG does not number all of the decorated 1 x 2 tiles the same
number with an pb extension - they give each one a different number as best I
know. And then only keep the number available for a little while and do not supply
it for parts from collectible minifigs etc etc.
| |
The problem is Lego did some weird stuff back in that era where they merged some
head and torsos together using one single part number!? See Brickset link which
shows the combined part (Grey + Torso) as 4227735 and not 4524911
https://brickset.com/parts/4227735/mini-upper-part-no-970
So we are definitely looking at a different part in that instance but if you
search for 4227735 on Bricklink it doesn’t appear probably because a merger of
parts like this wouldn’t have fit in with the way BL do things hence why they
probably just used the same code as the brown version?
As for Lego using the same part number for mold variants this is another example
of where Lego themselves never intended anyone to take those differences so literally
|
Hmm, no, the example of jumper studs was given already. It is not a matter of
being anal to recognise mold differences. You can try it yourself with this part:
Newer parts clutches, older ones fall off. I would like to think that TLG intended
that improvement, that they stopped making the old part becasue it was not doing
the job it was supposed to do and that the new part should be sold with new sets.
However, the old part came in older sets and what will you do if a buyer tells
you the old part you sent him is a fake becasue there is no way for him to know
otherwise?
| | because in Legos eyes whatever stud type was used it’s still the same part number
and it’s the all-important and relevant print decal that warrants a different
part code so in my view it’s just unfortunate the BL community has gone to such
lengths to essentially separate the same parts when most people just want the
correct print decal and don’t really care which mold was used!
|
I have no idea what TLG's intentions are with mold changes and mold variants.
My question was posted in catalogue, not selling. You sell lots, not catalogue
entries. You can refer to the catalogue entry in your listing, you could also
use the catalogue image and you might even end up in the price guide for your
listing, but that all has nothing to do with the catalogue entry as reference
source, which is where my question was posted.
The only requirement BL has for you to list a lot with a refrence to the catalogue
entry, is that you must not mix new and used in the same lot. It is a general
selling offence to sell used as new in a lot, but generally not to mix variants.
So I do not think it unfortunate the catalogue can serve as a reference guide
but also as a sales tool. To do both qually well, will always be a challenge.
If every car manufacturer only makes white cars, there will be no other colours.
This does not mean that all consumers by default mostly want a white car, it
just means that car manufacturers are all the same and treat their customers
all the same, no matter what their customers might say or think.
What does happen in the BL listings though is that you frequenlty get a seller
who tells you that it is too much effort to list properly in variants, but price
their non-specific and incorrect unsorted parts at the high price for the scarcer
out of production part. In essence it is not too much work to look up the part
in priceguide, but it is too much work to list it properly. Strange - doing half
a job for the full gain.
| |
As for the Black Torso in question, this is still quite a current part and the
OP should still be able to determine whether it’s a misprint or intended difference
from using brickset and/or Lego site as a reference source!
|
Nope, the differences in question arised in a certain time period, continued
for awhile and then stopped, as I have them from three different sets from three
different years, as I mentioned from 2008 - 2010. I also have the current catalogue
entry for that torso assembly from prior to that period and after that period.
I would agree that for reference purposes it would not even be important if it
occured in only one set at one time. I've had some misprints on tiles like
that and do not bother with it. This however, stood out for the reasons I gave
above.
The LEGO site does not keep its information nor keep a snapshot of the situation
as it was 10 years ago. The information you refer to is either:
1. kept current with current part numbers and current designs; or
2. Not a historical record of what happened.
The LEGO site is not a reference source by any stretch of the imaginaition as
it is designed as a site to sell current replacement parts, not serve as a reference
work (which is what a catalogue does).
And for reference purposes, the part in question was submitted as new entry.
|
|
| Author: | jezurka | | Posted: | Jun 2, 2020 07:42 | | Subject: | Catalog number 3245-Ju | | Viewed: | 88 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
|
| Hello
I find lego catalog which I can not find in BL inventory.
Code is 3245-Ju. Is seams it is print for Yugoslavia (language is Slovenian).
Does anyone know the year. In my opinion it is something around middle 60s.
I put picture.
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