Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | axaday  | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 16:36 | | Subject: | Re: Is dual color mold really decorated? | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Miro78 writes:
| | Should dual molded legs or arms in their respective assemblies really be considered
as decorated?
To me BL considered the decorated as by means of printing or applying decoration
using stickers.
example
the reasoning is, how is that any different from legs assembly with single color
legs but different color hips or mismatched leg colors?
I feel the same way about dual molded arms
There are reasons for not separating them, mainly for new buyers not knowing
or caring about the difference or just the general way of looking at it, but
I feel like there is no real definition for the term decorated that should be
defined. As far I am concerned, dual color molding is not really decorating.
Any thoughts?
Miro
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I support the change. Also the pics you posted are lovely.
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| Author: | Miro78 | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 16:20 | | Subject: | Re: Is dual color mold really decorated? | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Miro78 writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Miro78 writes:
| | I feel like there is no real definition for the term decorated that should be
defined. As far I am concerned, dual color molding is not really decorating.
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There are no real definitions for a number of things and we're working right
now to change that.
As for dual-molded parts, I would say that the appearance of the part
is what is important. If a part appears to have a pattern, then BrickLink should
probably treat it as a patterned part regardless of the production method.
This is because when anyone is looking for an item, I imagine they would want
a clean distinction between plain parts and multicolored or patterned parts.
That's not to say we couldn't distinguish dual-molded parts in some
way, either with titles or item numbers. For example, we already distinguish
patterned parts that have stickers using the part title.
Oddly enough, at least for some patterned parts where the production is with
molding, we don't identify the part as a patterned part:
But sometimes we do:
Which makes me wonder what the catalog means when it uses the word "embossed:"
Anyway, there's still a lot to clean up all across the catalog. The first
step is enacting solid guidelines. Right now we're working on these two
pages and would greatly appreciate input before they become official in 11 (or
fewer) days:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2479
The dual-molding issue will have to wait until we get to a catalog page that
would address it.
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I would certainly like dual-molded differentiated from printed or stickered.
The additional wrinkle is there is no way of knowing when a part is dual-molded
or not.
For example these legs
come in dual molded and printed version of the shoes, but BL did not implement
the differentiation even though I brought it up in the past. The quality is vastly
different and hence why Lego decided to start doing dual molding of minifig/minidoll
parts
Miro
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Hey look at that. I found my post about this from 70 months ago.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=851619
Miro
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| Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 16:04 | | Subject: | Re: Is dual color mold really decorated? | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Miro78 writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Miro78 writes:
| | I feel like there is no real definition for the term decorated that should be
defined. As far I am concerned, dual color molding is not really decorating.
|
There are no real definitions for a number of things and we're working right
now to change that.
As for dual-molded parts, I would say that the appearance of the part
is what is important. If a part appears to have a pattern, then BrickLink should
probably treat it as a patterned part regardless of the production method.
This is because when anyone is looking for an item, I imagine they would want
a clean distinction between plain parts and multicolored or patterned parts.
That's not to say we couldn't distinguish dual-molded parts in some
way, either with titles or item numbers. For example, we already distinguish
patterned parts that have stickers using the part title.
Oddly enough, at least for some patterned parts where the production is with
molding, we don't identify the part as a patterned part:
But sometimes we do:
Which makes me wonder what the catalog means when it uses the word "embossed:"
Anyway, there's still a lot to clean up all across the catalog. The first
step is enacting solid guidelines. Right now we're working on these two
pages and would greatly appreciate input before they become official in 11 (or
fewer) days:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2479
The dual-molding issue will have to wait until we get to a catalog page that
would address it.
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I would certainly like dual-molded differentiated from printed or stickered.
The additional wrinkle is there is no way of knowing when a part is dual-molded
or not.
For example these legs
come in dual molded and printed version of the shoes, but BL did not implement
the differentiation even though I brought it up in the past. The quality is vastly
different and hence why Lego decided to start doing dual molding of minifig/minidoll
parts
Miro
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I would like to see dual-molded parts differentiated too, maybe a new suffix
needs to be created... Maybe Stormchaser has already thought about some options?
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 15:50 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6582-1 | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 6 Part 4864b Black Panel 1 x 2 x 2 - Hollow Studs (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 6 Part Black 4864a Panel 1 x 2 x 2 - Solid Studs {match ID 0 to 1}
Comments from Submitter:
From sealed set contents. All six had hollow studs.
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| Author: | Miro78 | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 15:35 | | Subject: | Re: Is dual color mold really decorated? | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | As for dual-molded parts, I would say that the appearance of the part
is what is important. If a part appears to have a pattern, then BrickLink should
probably treat it as a patterned part regardless of the production method.
This is because when anyone is looking for an item, I imagine they would want
a clean distinction between plain parts and multicolored or patterned parts.
That's not to say we couldn't distinguish dual-molded parts in some
way, either with titles or item numbers. For example, we already distinguish
patterned parts that have stickers using the part title.
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| | The dual-molding issue will have to wait until we get to a catalog page that
would address it.
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I don't care either way, but it would be very useful to know which legs are
dual molded (and so have the correct colours on the back of the legs) vs those
that are printed (and so have a single colour on the backs).
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I agree. Not to mention those that want to remove the decoration for their customization
or whatever purpose will not be able to do so with the dual-molded version.
Miro
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| Author: | Miro78 | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 15:33 | | Subject: | Re: Is dual color mold really decorated? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Miro78 writes:
| | I feel like there is no real definition for the term decorated that should be
defined. As far I am concerned, dual color molding is not really decorating.
|
There are no real definitions for a number of things and we're working right
now to change that.
As for dual-molded parts, I would say that the appearance of the part
is what is important. If a part appears to have a pattern, then BrickLink should
probably treat it as a patterned part regardless of the production method.
This is because when anyone is looking for an item, I imagine they would want
a clean distinction between plain parts and multicolored or patterned parts.
That's not to say we couldn't distinguish dual-molded parts in some
way, either with titles or item numbers. For example, we already distinguish
patterned parts that have stickers using the part title.
Oddly enough, at least for some patterned parts where the production is with
molding, we don't identify the part as a patterned part:
But sometimes we do:
Which makes me wonder what the catalog means when it uses the word "embossed:"
Anyway, there's still a lot to clean up all across the catalog. The first
step is enacting solid guidelines. Right now we're working on these two
pages and would greatly appreciate input before they become official in 11 (or
fewer) days:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2479
The dual-molding issue will have to wait until we get to a catalog page that
would address it.
|
I would certainly like dual-molded differentiated from printed or stickered.
The additional wrinkle is there is no way of knowing when a part is dual-molded
or not.
For example these legs
come in dual molded and printed version of the shoes, but BL did not implement
the differentiation even though I brought it up in the past. The quality is vastly
different and hence why Lego decided to start doing dual molding of minifig/minidoll
parts
Miro
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 15:18 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7937-1 | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | | | That sounds about right compared with what I have, also. The brown eyebrows would
have probably been before the color change in 2004 to reddish brown. With your
information and my information, it is clear that any minifigure and set with
this head needs to be looked into before we make any more changes or add any
more minifigures. This sounds like an issue for the catalog roadmap.
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I add this picture to the discussion in case anyone can use it in a future project
correcting the red/brown eyebrows issue. These are the 6 heads that I have in
sets that were never mixed with other bricks. I put them in my scanner to ensure
consistent lighting.
/Jan
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It seems BL downsizes the image so it's not useful at all. Here are six smaller
images, hopefully they'll be more useful.
/Jan
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 15:12 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7937-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| | | That sounds about right compared with what I have, also. The brown eyebrows would
have probably been before the color change in 2004 to reddish brown. With your
information and my information, it is clear that any minifigure and set with
this head needs to be looked into before we make any more changes or add any
more minifigures. This sounds like an issue for the catalog roadmap.
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I add this picture to the discussion in case anyone can use it in a future project
correcting the red/brown eyebrows issue. These are the 6 heads that I have in
sets that were never mixed with other bricks. I put them in my scanner to ensure
consistent lighting.
/Jan
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 15:11 | | Subject: | Re: Is dual color mold really decorated? | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | As for dual-molded parts, I would say that the appearance of the part
is what is important. If a part appears to have a pattern, then BrickLink should
probably treat it as a patterned part regardless of the production method.
This is because when anyone is looking for an item, I imagine they would want
a clean distinction between plain parts and multicolored or patterned parts.
That's not to say we couldn't distinguish dual-molded parts in some
way, either with titles or item numbers. For example, we already distinguish
patterned parts that have stickers using the part title.
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| | The dual-molding issue will have to wait until we get to a catalog page that
would address it.
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I don't care either way, but it would be very useful to know which legs are
dual molded (and so have the correct colours on the back of the legs) vs those
that are printed (and so have a single colour on the backs).
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 14:16 | | Subject: | Re: Is dual color mold really decorated? | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | […]
I’ll try to make a comparison picture….
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Dang. I can’t: I only have the surface paint in black.
I have both versions of the chrome ones but there already is a comparison picture.
I note exists in both versions: there’s a comparison picture but
only one part in the catalogue….
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| Author: | ZwarteMagica | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 14:13 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 8353-1 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 32534pb06 Pearl Dark Gray Technic, Panel Fairing # 7 Small Long, Large Hole, Side A with '9' and Black and Red Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8353 (Counterpart)
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 14:03 | | Subject: | Re: Is dual color mold really decorated? | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | […]
Which makes me wonder what the catalog means when it uses the word "embossed:"
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If you actually are wondering about this part, the pattern is both embossed and
painted, while on
it’s only painted.
I’ll try to make a comparison picture….
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| Author: | dromeracer | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 13:45 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 3723-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, dromeracer writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, dromeracer writes:
| | my own item of this type.
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By the way, does that mean you have an original copy of this set (i.e. you got
the set new and never mixed it with other parts)? If yes, could you check if
the parts
are the "c" type?
[p=32064c,3]
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Yes, I have this item in original condition and never mixed with other items.
I will look regarding this Question and give you a Feedback today in the evening.
I forgot that there are two ways to attach the arms. I think the parts are still
in my original box for the set.
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Hey I would Like to confirm: Ist ist the C-Type!
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 13:28 | | Subject: | Re: Is dual color mold really decorated? | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Miro78 writes:
| | I feel like there is no real definition for the term decorated that should be
defined. As far I am concerned, dual color molding is not really decorating.
|
There are no real definitions for a number of things and we're working right
now to change that.
As for dual-molded parts, I would say that the appearance of the part
is what is important. If a part appears to have a pattern, then BrickLink should
probably treat it as a patterned part regardless of the production method.
This is because when anyone is looking for an item, I imagine they would want
a clean distinction between plain parts and multicolored or patterned parts.
That's not to say we couldn't distinguish dual-molded parts in some
way, either with titles or item numbers. For example, we already distinguish
patterned parts that have stickers using the part title.
Oddly enough, at least for some patterned parts where the production is with
molding, we don't identify the part as a patterned part:
But sometimes we do:
Which makes me wonder what the catalog means when it uses the word "embossed:"
Anyway, there's still a lot to clean up all across the catalog. The first
step is enacting solid guidelines. Right now we're working on these two
pages and would greatly appreciate input before they become official in 11 (or
fewer) days:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2479
The dual-molding issue will have to wait until we get to a catalog page that
would address it.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 13:12 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory of stickered assemblies | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, normann1974 writes:
| | Any reason why "sticker over assembly" parts don't have inventories like
other (counterpart) assemblies have?
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This was answered here:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1174941
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| Author: | Miro78 | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 13:06 | | Subject: | Is dual color mold really decorated? | | Viewed: | 132 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Should dual molded legs or arms in their respective assemblies really be considered
as decorated?
To me BL considered the decorated as by means of printing or applying decoration
using stickers.
example
the reasoning is, how is that any different from legs assembly with single color
legs but different color hips or mismatched leg colors?
I feel the same way about dual molded arms
There are reasons for not separating them, mainly for new buyers not knowing
or caring about the difference or just the general way of looking at it, but
I feel like there is no real definition for the term decorated that should be
defined. As far I am concerned, dual color molding is not really decorating.
Any thoughts?
Miro
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 13:02 | | Subject: | Inventory of stickered assemblies | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| Any reason why "sticker over assembly" parts don't have inventories like
other (counterpart) assemblies have?
/Jan
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| Author: | tron404 | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 12:32 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4767-1 | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | Please do! Every little bit we learn about each set helps the whole LEGO community
learn along with you. 
| | By the way: one mistake that I did notice as a kid is that in exo-force 7709
Lego gave me a wrong character head. I was missing the head of "Keiken" and instead
had 2 copies of the head of exf001. Do you think this could be considered as
an alternate part or that is just a factory mistake?
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Probably just a factory mistake.
Cheers,
Randy
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Alright then, thanks again!
Cheers 
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 11:18 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 623-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part BA139pb01 Red Stickered Assembly 4 x 10 x 1 1/3 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Sticker) - Set 623 - 1 Vehicle, Base 4 x 10 x 2/3 with 2 x 2 Recessed Center with Center Hole (First Version), 2 Plates (Counterpart)
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 09:27 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 4562-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 8 Part 3003 Blue Brick 2 x 2 (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Add 8 Part 3003 Red Brick 2 x 2 (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 2 Part 41855 Blue Brick, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 Two Studs, Lip End (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Change 8 Part Trans-Dark Blue 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {match ID 0 to 1}
* Change 8 Part Trans-Red 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 2 Part Trans-Red 3039 Slope 45 2 x 2 {match ID 0 to 3}
Comments from Submitter:
I have deleted my previous requests on this set and am doing it a different way.
- On the blue and red bricks, this variance is what I have found when I parted out two sets before and again when I parted out 1 yesterday.
- I was missing the trans-red slopes before and again and last time I didn't know what to balance them with, but this time the blue 41855 (and maybe/probably last time as well, I don't know) were in the bag with the regular parts, not the floor sweepings, so I think they alternate each other.
-I will also record here that when I parted out two sets before, I only got 2 yellow 3005pe1, not 4 and this time when I parted out one set I didn't get any of them. I suspect that this piece belongs in the extras, but I have no handy proof. I am making these requests from work and it now occurs to me that I may have pictures of the unopened bags last time that would shed some light on this. I will check later.
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| Author: | primadeluxe | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 06:29 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 269-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 2 Part 3068apb04 White Tile 2 x 2 without Groove with Blue Circle Plate, Fried Egg, 4 Red Spots Pattern (Sticker) - Set 269 (Undetermined Pattern) (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 3068apb14 White Tile 2 x 2 without Groove with Blue Circle Plate, Fried Egg, 4 Red Spots Pattern 1 (Sticker) - Set 269 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 3068apb15 White Tile 2 x 2 without Groove with Blue Circle Plate, Fried Egg, 4 Red Spots Pattern 2 (Sticker) - Set 269 (Counterpart)
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| Author: | Dixi78 | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 04:10 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 41314-1 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 59349pb176 White Panel 1 x 6 x 5 with Mirror, Towel and Toiletries Pattern on Inside (Sticker) - Set 41314 (Counterpart)
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 18:54 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4767-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, tron404 writes:
| | | | | | A few years ago someone at 1000steine.de reported that he got this set with reddish
brown stairs from a seller who stated that all parts in that set were original.
At that time I found two used copies on Ebay which also had reddish brown stairs.
And I also found this brickshelf gallery:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=252053
And some boxes show reddish brown stairs:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=5724794
So it seems some copies came indeed with reddish brown stairs. Maybe LEGO did
not have enough dark orange stairs in stock and replaced them with reddish brown
ones. We know at that time (around 2005/2006) there were significant problems
with parts availability. Remember my set 10128 from early 2006 that came with
white parts instead of light gray ones.
Regards,
Jonas
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Thank you, Jonas.
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Hello, Sorry I didn't see your replies!!!
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No problem! This forum is awful when it comes to knowing if you have a reply
to one of your messages or not.
| | Thank you for approving my edit: Yes I am 100% sure they are his own.
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Thank you for the confirmation.
| | I started using bricklink very recently and I greatly appreciate that you approved
my edit! I enjoy contributing and might do it again if I found other interesting
facts.
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Please do! Every little bit we learn about each set helps the whole LEGO community
learn along with you.
| | By the way: one mistake that I did notice as a kid is that in exo-force 7709
Lego gave me a wrong character head. I was missing the head of "Keiken" and instead
had 2 copies of the head of exf001. Do you think this could be considered as
an alternate part or that is just a factory mistake?
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Probably just a factory mistake.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 18:54 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | I'm sure LEGO won't release the item (56145) in Light Gray color to put
it only in some 9797 sets and not use it anymore.
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If we had perfect knowledge, I am sure we would find that other sets had light
gray also. But most of those sets were opened and built and then went to garage
sales and trash cans. The ones that actually get opened and investigated are
a small sample. I have a vintage set on the way that has never been inventoried
before. And plenty of other sets haven't been verified or haven't been
parted out a lot by people who correct inventories.
Manufacturing pieces is one operation and packing sets is another operation and
the people or machines who pack the sets use the parts they have on hand.
It is clear from sets like 9797 and the Star Destroyer that set packers considered
LG and LBG to be the interchangeable until the time came that there were no more
LG parts in the bins. Hygrotus pulled a variant piece from a new set last year
that hadn't been seen in a new set in something like a decade. 32064c should
phase out somewhere around 2005, but Turez found one in a 2008 set. Because
some facility that packs sets still had some.
Frequently when entering PCCs on new pieces, I find something like (I am making
these specific numbers up!) most new PCCs we've been entering for months
are like 6301111 and 6301333 and then a new hair piece comes out with 6271222.
Sets are designed long before they are announced and released and there is no
reason to assume that a piece that didn't get released until 2006 wasn't
produced a few years earlier in some quantities. Some of the Dots elements were
made for Dots and then they decided not to release Dots and some of the pieces
made their way into sets last year. Then they decided to release Dots a year
later. They used those pieces in other sets because they had been manufactured
and were just sitting there. Similarly, LG 56145 may have been produced for
a set that didn't get released and then when they started making the piece
in LBG they used up the LG too. Or maybe when they develop a new part that they
want to start putting in sets, they start manufacturing it in the most obvious
colors, but by the time a designer put it in a set, they had changed over the
LBG, but still had the LG. We really don't know. But I promise you that
I can tell the difference between them and I found what I found. I have not
parted out 20 9797s. But I have parted out 8 of them from 5 different sources.
I have found all 3 heads and both kinds of hats and both kinds of light grays.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 18:51 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | I have disassembled about 20 sets of 9797 (I have 17 Activity Booklet). I have
disassembled about 15 sets DACTA and Educational. Relying on this experience,
I wrote a message to the forum.
I'm sure LEGO won't release the item (56145) in Light Gray color to put
it only in some 9797 sets and not use it anymore.
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Probably not. They probably made it for model shops and then the leftovers got
put into Dacta sets.
| | I think LEGO could allow a
marriage in the composition of the plastic and the detail has changed color a
little over time.
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This can happen occasionally to some colors in some conditions, but the difference
between light gray and light bluish gray is still noticeable.
| | In the photo, the cap and legs that I took out of one sealed
package from the DACTA set. These details are blue, but the cap has a yellowish
tinge. And such blue details with a yellow tint I have seen in many sets of DACTA
and Educational. In my opinion, this is not a new blue color, it is a marriage
of plastic (I do not sell such parts).
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This is a color that collectors refer to as "Brittle Blue". Do a search for it
in the forums and you will learn all about it.
| | I don't think we should continue the argument. This is a question of the
difference between my experience and yours. I think the bricklink database administrator
already has enough information to make the right decision.
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There never was an argument, was there? The history of LEGO encompasses a lot
more than just the Dacta sets, so you have to have a broader knowledge about
where they fit in the scheme of things. This history includes sets including
mixes of the grays long after the color switch in 2004, the fact that Dacta sets
are sometimes dumping grounds for leftover parts, etc.
| | If necessary, I can send a request to LEGO to see if the 9797 set included parts
with the Light Gray color.
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Go for it. However, I bet you, I, Jonathan (axaday) and a few others here probably
know a lot more about the set than they do. 
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | tron404 | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 18:30 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4767-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| | | | | A few years ago someone at 1000steine.de reported that he got this set with reddish
brown stairs from a seller who stated that all parts in that set were original.
At that time I found two used copies on Ebay which also had reddish brown stairs.
And I also found this brickshelf gallery:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=252053
And some boxes show reddish brown stairs:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=5724794
So it seems some copies came indeed with reddish brown stairs. Maybe LEGO did
not have enough dark orange stairs in stock and replaced them with reddish brown
ones. We know at that time (around 2005/2006) there were significant problems
with parts availability. Remember my set 10128 from early 2006 that came with
white parts instead of light gray ones.
Regards,
Jonas
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Thank you, Jonas.
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Hello, Sorry I didn't see your replies!!!
Thank you for approving my edit: Yes I am 100% sure they are his own.
The reasons are:
1) I never disassembled my copy since I was a kid.
2) I don't own any other set that has these reddish brown stairs. Those are
the only ones that I own (I have a rather small collection compared to some Afols)
Unfortunately I don't have the original box anymore, but my instruction booklet
shows Dark Orange both on the cover and on the interior pages. I was around 10
at that time and didn't pay attention to that.
I started using bricklink very recently and I greatly appreciate that you approved
my edit! I enjoy contributing and might do it again if I found other interesting
facts.
By the way: one mistake that I did notice as a kid is that in exo-force 7709
Lego gave me a wrong character head. I was missing the head of "Keiken" and instead
had 2 copies of the head of exf001. Do you think this could be considered as
an alternate part or that is just a factory mistake?
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 18:23 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | I have disassembled about 20 sets of 9797 (I have 17 Activity Booklet). I have
disassembled about 15 sets DACTA and Educational. Relying on this experience,
I wrote a message to the forum.
I'm sure LEGO won't release the item (56145) in Light Gray color to put
it only in some 9797 sets and not use it anymore. I think LEGO could allow a
marriage in the composition of the plastic and the detail has changed color a
little over time. In the photo, the cap and legs that I took out of one sealed
package from the DACTA set. These details are blue, but the cap has a yellowish
tinge. And such blue details with a yellow tint I have seen in many sets of DACTA
and Educational. In my opinion, this is not a new blue color, it is a marriage
of plastic (I do not sell such parts).
I don't think we should continue the argument. This is a question of the
difference between my experience and yours. I think the bricklink database administrator
already has enough information to make the right decision.
If necessary, I can send a request to LEGO to see if the 9797 set included parts
with the Light Gray color.
A little more information about the configuration of 9797 sets:
Items 41752 and 41753 were included only in the set of 2006, in the future (2009
and 2012) rubbers lay in cardboard boxes.
Part bb0273 could only be included in the 2006 kit along with the x1678 battery.
Part bb0527 could only be included in the 2009 and 2012 set along with the 87662c01
battery.
Regards
Alexei
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That hat color is known here as Brittle Blue. You can search that on the forum
to find out more.
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| Author: | xoshimin | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 18:16 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| I have disassembled about 20 sets of 9797 (I have 17 Activity Booklet). I have
disassembled about 15 sets DACTA and Educational. Relying on this experience,
I wrote a message to the forum.
I'm sure LEGO won't release the item (56145) in Light Gray color to put
it only in some 9797 sets and not use it anymore. I think LEGO could allow a
marriage in the composition of the plastic and the detail has changed color a
little over time. In the photo, the cap and legs that I took out of one sealed
package from the DACTA set. These details are blue, but the cap has a yellowish
tinge. And such blue details with a yellow tint I have seen in many sets of DACTA
and Educational. In my opinion, this is not a new blue color, it is a marriage
of plastic (I do not sell such parts).
I don't think we should continue the argument. This is a question of the
difference between my experience and yours. I think the bricklink database administrator
already has enough information to make the right decision.
If necessary, I can send a request to LEGO to see if the 9797 set included parts
with the Light Gray color.
A little more information about the configuration of 9797 sets:
Items 41752 and 41753 were included only in the set of 2006, in the future (2009
and 2012) rubbers lay in cardboard boxes.
Part bb0273 could only be included in the 2006 kit along with the x1678 battery.
Part bb0527 could only be included in the 2009 and 2012 set along with the 87662c01
battery.
Regards
Alexei
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| Author: | xoshimin | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 17:26 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
Your pictures would be extremely useful, but BrickLink has mangled them into
tiny and therefore unusable sizes. Do you have these uploaded somewhere that
we can access them in large sizes? If not, then can you do that?
Also, do we have your permission to use these photos as catalog images if we
need to?
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I hope these photos are suitable for the site. Write if you need other photos.
I allow you to use these photos on the Bricklink website.
https://yadi.sk/d/LerMvEsDGUTmfQ
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| Author: | Brixalotl | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 16:56 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 75001-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 44302b Light Bluish Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End without Bottom Groove (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Change 1 Part Light Bluish Gray 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove {match ID 0 to 2}
Comments from Submitter:
found both variants during part out, thanks
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 16:16 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6980-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, anathema writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, anathema writes:
| | The hose in my copy of the set is 77mm (slightly under 10 studs) in length.
There is no way to know if it's been cut down at some point, of course.
|
I've done some more investigation.
My hose is a different colour to the other 'classic hose' parts I have;
it also has a slightly smaller inner diameter, although it is still larger than
that of a genuine pneumatic hose.
So either there have been different types of hose used over the years (possible)
or else what I have is an aftermarket replacement.
Whichever it is, I'm inclined to believe that this set most likely only ever
shipped with a 12L hose.
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Is it slightly transparent?
When I checked mine, there was a ~10L black one near them but only one and slightly
translucent. I compared it with the pneumatic hose from the same period I had
in another drawer and they match (so in the pneumatic drawer it went).
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| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 14:56 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 8255-1 | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change {1 to 2} Part Green 2431pb035 Tile 1 x 4 with 'RESCUE patrol' Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8255 (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
https://www.lego.com/biassets/bi/4129104.pdf
Page 33 and 36 show that there should be a sticker on both sides.
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| Author: | electricbaer | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 14:44 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 75877-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 54200pb096R Trans-Black Slope 30 1 x 1 x 2/3 with White Headlight Pattern Model Right Side (Sticker) - Set 75877 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 54200pb096L Trans-Black Slope 30 1 x 1 x 2/3 with White Headlight Pattern Model Left Side (Sticker) - Set 75877 (Counterpart)
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| Author: | starbeanie | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 14:41 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 8255-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Minifig tech022a Technic Figure White Legs, White Top with White and Green Torso with Rescue Pattern, Green Arms
* Change 2 Minifig tech022s Technic Figure White Legs with Knife (sticker) on Right Leg, White Top with White and Green Torso with Rescue Pattern, Green Arms {Regular to Counterpart}
Comments from Submitter:
the unstickered one should be the standard
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| Author: | kzinti | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 14:28 | | Subject: | Re: Number of items wrong | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, cheeky.monkey writes:
| | Issue with inventory always wrong amount how can 5 turn into 13 finding this
in the last 6wks is LEGO trying to piss me of its doing the job
|
Inventory issues have been an ongoing thing for a while. I part out new sets,
and items with no inventory extras (like regular bricks) BrickLink will show
as sold out on an order, yet when I pull the order, I have extra parts in my
physical inventory. I have dozens of these 'overstock' parts to count
and re-inventory due to this.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 13:22 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6980-1 | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, anathema writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, anathema writes:
| | The hose in my copy of the set is 77mm (slightly under 10 studs) in length.
There is no way to know if it's been cut down at some point, of course.
|
I've done some more investigation.
My hose is a different colour to the other 'classic hose' parts I have;
it also has a slightly smaller inner diameter, although it is still larger than
that of a genuine pneumatic hose.
So either there have been different types of hose used over the years (possible)
or else what I have is an aftermarket replacement.
Whichever it is, I'm inclined to believe that this set most likely only ever
shipped with a 12L hose.
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Thanks for checking further. Based on this we'll conclude for now that this
set only came with the 12L hose. But the 10L hose can be added back if someone
finds evidence of it.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 12:03 | | Subject: | Re: Difference between keychain lights | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, TheBohrok writes:
| | I see. Mine would then fall under LED Key Light Minifigure Key Chain since they
have the tag
|
Only if going by the catalog images. Technically, both existing catalog entries
are undetermined because the titles of each entry fail to specify the packaging
or the color of the items.
| | I was thinking it might be better to merge them
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I also think it would be better to merge them.
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| Author: | anathema | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 12:03 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6980-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, anathema writes:
| | The hose in my copy of the set is 77mm (slightly under 10 studs) in length.
There is no way to know if it's been cut down at some point, of course.
|
I've done some more investigation.
My hose is a different colour to the other 'classic hose' parts I have;
it also has a slightly smaller inner diameter, although it is still larger than
that of a genuine pneumatic hose.
So either there have been different types of hose used over the years (possible)
or else what I have is an aftermarket replacement.
Whichever it is, I'm inclined to believe that this set most likely only ever
shipped with a 12L hose.
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| Author: | ZwarteMagica | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 11:36 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7298-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 4346pb22L Light Bluish Gray Container, Box 2 x 2 x 2 Door with Slot and 'OPEN', Arrows and Lock Pattern Model Left Side (Sticker) - Set 7298 (Counterpart)
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| Author: | Brixalotl | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 11:24 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 75083-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 44567a Dark Bluish Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on Side with Bottom Groove (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Dark Bluish Gray 44567b Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on Side without Bottom Groove {match ID 0 to 1}
Comments from Submitter:
found grooved version during part out, thanks
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| Author: | chairman888 | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 11:19 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 346-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, chairman888 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 3035 Light Gray Plate 4 x 8 (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 4 Part Light Gray {3035 Plate 4 x 8 to 3035old Plate 4 x 8 with Waffle Bottom} {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 1}
Comments from Submitter:
I have my 346-1 but no original box or instructions. The 4 light gray plates are all waffle bottom. I didn’t own any of the other kits listed as having light gray waffle so I suspect that this kit (or least my copy) came with waffle bottom plates. I am not certain enough to suggest changing this piece entirely from 3035 to 3035old, only to suggest an alternate.
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These are all listings I could find
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/lego-samsonite-jumbo-jet-lego-set-346-514285674
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/lego-vintage-jumbo-jet-346-mini-wheel-1832894433
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From the two links posted, the light gray 4x8's are waffle-bottom's.
Would this be sufficient weight to change the 3035 to 3035old as a Regular
(without alternate)?
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| Author: | TheBohrok | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 11:16 | | Subject: | Re: Difference between keychain lights | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, TheBohrok writes:
There are technically four items here:
1. Blue figure packaged and sold in cardboard box
2. Blue figure not packaged and sold with paper tag
3. Red figure packaged and sold in cardboard box
4. Red figure not packaged and sold with paper tag
For those four items there are two catalog entries:
1. Mini Torch Minifigure Flashlight Key Chain Classic
2. LED Key Light Minifigure Key Chain
Neither catalog entry specifies the color of the figure or the type of packaging.
Since we're not being specific with either catalog entry, I agree that it
would probably be appropriate to merge the catalog entries.
|
I see. Mine would then fall under LED Key Light Minifigure Key Chain since they
have the tag (and are also in an open polybag with an adhesive strip to "seal"
the bag). I was thinking it might be better to merge them in case an interested
buyer is only aware of one and not the other nearly identical entry and for sellers
to get more exposure (which would be my case ).
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 11:08 | | Subject: | Re: Difference between keychain lights | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, TheBohrok writes:
There are technically four items here:
1. Blue figure packaged and sold in cardboard box
2. Blue figure not packaged and sold with paper tag
3. Red figure packaged and sold in cardboard box
4. Red figure not packaged and sold with paper tag
For those four items there are two catalog entries:
1. Mini Torch Minifigure Flashlight Key Chain Classic
2. LED Key Light Minifigure Key Chain
Neither catalog entry specifies the color of the figure or the type of packaging.
Since we're not being specific with either catalog entry, I agree that it
would probably be appropriate to merge the catalog entries.
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| Author: | cheeky.monkey | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 10:14 | | Subject: | Number of items wrong | | Viewed: | 133 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
|
| Issue with inventory always wrong amount how can 5 turn into 13 finding this
in the last 6wks is LEGO trying to piss me of its doing the job
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| Author: | toontexas | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 09:52 | | Subject: | Re: One random part... | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Biglesdug writes:
| | In Catalog, opposingwinds writes:
| | Does anyone know why Brick Modified 1 x 2 x 2/3 No Studs, Wing End is
so expensive?? It's in more than 100 sets and I feel like it's quite
common. I came across several stores selling it for $1, even $2.
|
They are probably the same stores selling all their parts at 100%-200% market
value.
|
That's a bit rich from the seller of this part:
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| Author: | Biglesdug | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 09:29 | | Subject: | Re: One random part... | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, cycbuild writes:
| | In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
| | In Catalog, opposingwinds writes:
| | Does anyone know why Brick Modified 1 x 2 x 2/3 No Studs, Wing End is
so expensive?? It's in more than 100 sets and I feel like it's quite
common. I came across several stores selling it for $1, even $2.
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Which color?
|
Dark bley is way pricier than other colors, and mostly comes in very nice sets
(except this polybag)
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People parting together the bat pod.
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| Author: | cycbuild | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 09:16 | | Subject: | Re: One random part... | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
| | In Catalog, opposingwinds writes:
| | Does anyone know why Brick Modified 1 x 2 x 2/3 No Studs, Wing End is
so expensive?? It's in more than 100 sets and I feel like it's quite
common. I came across several stores selling it for $1, even $2.
|
Which color?
|
Dark bley is way pricier than other colors, and mostly comes in very nice sets
(except this polybag)
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| Author: | Biglesdug | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 08:59 | | Subject: | Re: One random part... | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, opposingwinds writes:
| | Does anyone know why Brick Modified 1 x 2 x 2/3 No Studs, Wing End is
so expensive?? It's in more than 100 sets and I feel like it's quite
common. I came across several stores selling it for $1, even $2.
|
They are probably the same stores selling all their parts at 100%-200% market
value.
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| Author: | starbeanie | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 08:57 | | Subject: | Re: One random part... | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In what color?
In Catalog, opposingwinds writes:
| | Does anyone know why Brick Modified 1 x 2 x 2/3 No Studs, Wing End is
so expensive?? It's in more than 100 sets and I feel like it's quite
common. I came across several stores selling it for $1, even $2.
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| Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 08:56 | | Subject: | Re: One random part... | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, opposingwinds writes:
| | Does anyone know why Brick Modified 1 x 2 x 2/3 No Studs, Wing End is
so expensive?? It's in more than 100 sets and I feel like it's quite
common. I came across several stores selling it for $1, even $2.
|
Which color?
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| Author: | opposingwinds | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 08:22 | | Subject: | One random part... | | Viewed: | 143 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Does anyone know why Brick Modified 1 x 2 x 2/3 No Studs, Wing End is
so expensive?? It's in more than 100 sets and I feel like it's quite
common. I came across several stores selling it for $1, even $2.
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| Author: | 1271moggy | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 06:51 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 8445-1 | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part BA138pb01 Yellow Stickered Assembly 6 x 2 x 1 2/3 with Silver Number One on Fading Checks Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8445 - 2 Technic Slopes 6 x 1 x 1 2/3 (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
See instruction book page 33, stage 5 showing placement of sticker.
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 04:44 | | Subject: | Re: Length of Electric, Wire and Connector 5306bc | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, joel07 writes:
| | Hello, I would like clarification on the 5306bc electric, wire and connector.
The number next to it corresponds to the length of the cable, or is it the length
of the cable and the brick (for example 5306bc026) ?
Thank you for your answers.
Best regards,
Joel
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C'est un projet qu'on a definit il y a deux ans:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1113705
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1136906
Jusqu'a ce qu'on travail sur le projet, on sais pas. Peronne ne sait.
Le longueur de la cable n'est pas bien definit donc ca peut etre tous ce
qu'on peut imaginer.
Comme j'ai verifie, le longueur des cables de train 7722 sur mes 5 examplaires
n'etaient pas exact en tout cas.
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| Author: | joel07 | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 04:19 | | Subject: | Length of Electric, Wire and Connector 5306bc | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Hello, I would like clarification on the 5306bc electric, wire and connector.
The number next to it corresponds to the length of the cable, or is it the length
of the cable and the brick (for example 5306bc026) ?
Thank you for your answers.
Best regards,
Joel
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| Author: | dromeracer | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 03:24 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 3723-1 | | Viewed: | 15 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, dromeracer writes:
| | my own item of this type.
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By the way, does that mean you have an original copy of this set (i.e. you got
the set new and never mixed it with other parts)? If yes, could you check if
the parts
are the "c" type?
[p=32064c,3]
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Yes, I have this item in original condition and never mixed with other items.
I will look regarding this Question and give you a Feedback today in the evening.
I forgot that there are two ways to attach the arms. I think the parts are still
in my original box for the set.
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 00:58 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 346-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, chairman888 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 3035 Light Gray Plate 4 x 8 (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 4 Part Light Gray {3035 Plate 4 x 8 to 3035old Plate 4 x 8 with Waffle Bottom} {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 1}
Comments from Submitter:
I have my 346-1 but no original box or instructions. The 4 light gray plates are all waffle bottom. I didn’t own any of the other kits listed as having light gray waffle so I suspect that this kit (or least my copy) came with waffle bottom plates. I am not certain enough to suggest changing this piece entirely from 3035 to 3035old, only to suggest an alternate.
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These are all listings I could find
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/lego-samsonite-jumbo-jet-lego-set-346-514285674
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/lego-vintage-jumbo-jet-346-mini-wheel-1832894433
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| Author: | chairman888 | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 00:07 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 346-1 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 3035 Light Gray Plate 4 x 8 (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 4 Part Light Gray {3035 Plate 4 x 8 to 3035old Plate 4 x 8 with Waffle Bottom} {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 1}
Comments from Submitter:
I have my 346-1 but no original box or instructions. The 4 light gray plates are all waffle bottom. I didn’t own any of the other kits listed as having light gray waffle so I suspect that this kit (or least my copy) came with waffle bottom plates. I am not certain enough to suggest changing this piece entirely from 3035 to 3035old, only to suggest an alternate.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 20:39 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4669-1 | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 3962b Dark Bluish Gray Minifigure, Utensil Radio with Extended Handle (Extra)
* Change {1 to 2} Part Dark Bluish Gray 3962b Minifigure, Utensil Radio with Extended Handle
Comments from Submitter:
Both walkie-talkies are used in the set.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 20:34 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 4669-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 3962b Dark Bluish Gray Minifigure, Utensil Radio with Extended Handle (Extra)
* Change {1 to 2} Part Dark Bluish Gray 3962b Minifigure, Utensil Radio with Extended Handle
Comments from Submitter:
Both walkie-talkies are used in the set.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 20:29 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4669-1 | | Viewed: | 12 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Tribols writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3678a Blue Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 Smooth without Bottom Tube
Comments from Submitter:
The white 6140 is on a white 3004 block and the blue part it is on is not in the inventory!
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Yes, the part is in the inventory. It is
This request will not be accepted.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | Brixalotl | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 20:29 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 75081-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 44567a Black Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on Side with Bottom Groove (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Change 4 Part Black 44567b Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on Side without Bottom Groove {match ID 0 to 2}
Comments from Submitter:
found variant during part out, thanks
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| Author: | Brixalotl | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 19:43 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 75918-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part Black {44567 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on Side (Undetermined Type) to 44567a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on Side with Bottom Groove}
Comments from Submitter:
confirmed during part out, thanks
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 19:05 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 75234-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, jamescanney writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change {1 to 2} Part Black 2780 Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise with Center Slots (Extra)
Comments from Submitter:
i did the set twice and was left with 2 extra pins. With 55 used in the set, this would make more sense to have 2 extra included
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I watched three speed builds from sealed set contents, and they all showed two
extra pins. Request accepted.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | Tribols | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 18:57 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 4669-1 | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3678a Blue Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 Smooth without Bottom Tube
Comments from Submitter:
The white 6140 is on a white 3004 block and the blue part it is on is not in the inventory!
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| Author: | Adjour | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 18:43 | | Subject: | Re: Technic Stickered Assembly Items | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, 1271moggy writes:
| | I have been checking my son's Technic collection for completeness etc, and
have come across some Technic stickered assembly items, which are not in the
catalogue under the counterparts section.
Is there a reason for this, or is it simply no-one has been brave enough to
do it?
I don't mind having a go and try and get them entered, but I am not very
good with coming up with good accurate descriptions for the stickers. If it
was a plain number, I'd be fine, but when it comes to a SW figure, I don't
wish to describe it as one thing and upset the SW fans who know it should be
something else.
Also is there a limit to the number of characters you can put into a description?
As some Technic entry's are quite long before anything else is added.
See the photos for the items which I am referring to.
Any help/advise I would be most grateful for.
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I noticed when I was working on a similar project that yes, the counterparts
were missing to some of the older, smaller, technic sets.
I think just no one has bothered to work on it.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 18:20 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 3723-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, dromeracer writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change {11 to 7} Part Red 3010 Brick 1 x 4
* Change {4 to 2} Part Red 3701 Technic, Brick 1 x 4 with Holes
Comments from Submitter:
Checked with my own item of this type. But at these two position I have another qunantity as in the bricklink inventory. So I have checked the building instruction regadring these two item and so i have confirmed that the bricklink inventory have this two failures..
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As has already been pointed out by another member, these parts were used to create
an alternate assembly of the connections of the arms to the body. These requests
will not be accepted.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:42 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory for fabac3 | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
Oops. My bad. Obviously I can't keep up with everything happening on the
catalog side of things like you can!
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:31 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| | Here is one of the most high profile cases of this:
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I bought my 10030 a year after I decided to because I had to wait until I got
a bonus at work. It arrived in LBG. I had never seen LBG before and I hated
it.
I have gotten used to LBG by now. I do like LG better. But on the Star Destroyer,
LBG just isn't right.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:29 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory for fabac3 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I would like to create an inventory for part just like part
has. But what part number should I use for the base?
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If there is no number on it, then it gets a 'bb' number. The next available
'bb' number is bb1131.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:28 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Minifig sh590 | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part {Bright Green to Dark Purple} 973pb3661c01 Torso Vest, Orange Bow Tie and Pocket Chain Pattern / Bright Green Arms / Light Bluish Gray Hands
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:25 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| | | | Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.
|
This is definitely not true. There are a number of sets during the color transition
era where the old grays and new grays were mixed together in the same set. Please
do some research before making such broad generalizations.
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Here is one of the most high profile cases of this:
See the additional note on the set:
"The early production runs of this set featured Light Gray elements but subsequent
production runs have contained varying mixtures of Light Gray and Light Bluish
Gray elements."
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:19 | | Subject: | Inventory for fabac3 | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| I would like to create an inventory for part just like part
has. But what part number should I use for the base?
/Jan
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:18 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | Hi,
I apologize in advance for my English, it is translated by Google.
I bought and sorted 9797 sets a lot, so I have information about 9797 sets.
Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012. You can distinguish
the set versions by the LEGO copyright information on the boxes and paper sheets.
The first version of the set (2006) had the following differences:
1 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538b Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation)
4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Black Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
4019 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (First Version - 4 Round Holes)
32269 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
x1678 Dark Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, AC plug
The second version of the set (2009) had the following differences:
2 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538c Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
4716 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Blue Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
94925 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (Second Version - Reinforced)
32269 Tan Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
87662c01 Very Light Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, DC
plug
Add 55615 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin Connector Perpendicular 3 x 3 Bent with
4 Pins
Third version of the set (2012) had the following differences:
Removed x1676 Black Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm
Removed 6035c01 White Electric, Light Brick 1 x 2 with Single Side Light (6034
/ 6035)
There are errors in inventory 9797, this set did not have details of color "Light
Gray".
I didn't track the differences in the parts of the minifigures.
Best regards
Alexei
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I have parted this set out many times. I did find light gray pieces once.
|
Thanks for your reply.
I think this is a mistake.
Or the parts were replaced with parts with the color Light Gray (in the used
set). Or the parts are yellowed with time (if the set was sealed).
|
Jon only parts out brand new sets that have never been opened. If he found light
gray parts, he found light gray parts.
| | If we look in the Bricklink database for details with the color Light Gray (3023,
3894, 3702, 3703, 56145), then we will see that LEGO did not use this color after
2004.
|
They sure did. See https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&colorInSet=9&sortBy=Y&sortAsc=D&catType=S
| | A set of 9797 began production in 2006. The 56145 wheel was not produced
at all in the Light Gray color.
|
It was at some point, and it happened to make it into this set according to Jon.
| | Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.
|
This is definitely not true. There are a number of sets during the color transition
era where the old grays and new grays were mixed together in the same set. Please
do some research before making such broad generalizations.
Cheers,
Randy
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|
| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:15 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=260780
In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | Hi,
I apologize in advance for my English, it is translated by Google.
I bought and sorted 9797 sets a lot, so I have information about 9797 sets.
Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012. You can distinguish
the set versions by the LEGO copyright information on the boxes and paper sheets.
The first version of the set (2006) had the following differences:
1 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538b Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation)
4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Black Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
4019 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (First Version - 4 Round Holes)
32269 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
x1678 Dark Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, AC plug
The second version of the set (2009) had the following differences:
2 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538c Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
4716 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Blue Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
94925 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (Second Version - Reinforced)
32269 Tan Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
87662c01 Very Light Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, DC
plug
Add 55615 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin Connector Perpendicular 3 x 3 Bent with
4 Pins
Third version of the set (2012) had the following differences:
Removed x1676 Black Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm
Removed 6035c01 White Electric, Light Brick 1 x 2 with Single Side Light (6034
/ 6035)
There are errors in inventory 9797, this set did not have details of color "Light
Gray".
I didn't track the differences in the parts of the minifigures.
Best regards
Alexei
|
I have parted this set out many times. I did find light gray pieces once.
|
Thanks for your reply.
I think this is a mistake.
Or the parts were replaced with parts with the color Light Gray (in the used
set). Or the parts are yellowed with time (if the set was sealed).
If we look in the Bricklink database for details with the color Light Gray (3023,
3894, 3702, 3703, 56145), then we will see that LEGO did not use this color after
2004. A set of 9797 began production in 2006. The 56145 wheel was not produced
at all in the Light Gray color.
Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.
Alexei
|
|
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:10 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | Thanks for your reply.
I think this is a mistake.
Or the parts were replaced with parts with the color Light Gray (in the used
set). Or the parts are yellowed with time (if the set was sealed).
|
Sealed sets, very nice Light Gray, not yellowy Light Bluish Gray.
| | If we look in the Bricklink database for details with the color Light Gray (3023,
3894, 3702, 3703, 56145), then we will see that LEGO did not use this color after
2004. A set of 9797 began production in 2006.
|
And sets routinely come with older variant pieces that were no longer in production
when the set was produced.
| | The 56145 wheel was not produced
at all in the Light Gray color.
|
What I am telling you is that they did. I have seen them and I sold them in
January.
| | Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.
|
I have seen it several times in Dacta Technic/Mindstorm sets.
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| Author: | xoshimin | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 15:56 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| | | Your pictures would be extremely useful, but BrickLink has mangled them into
tiny and therefore unusable sizes. Do you have these uploaded somewhere that
we can access them in large sizes? If not, then can you do that?
Also, do we have your permission to use these photos as catalog images if we
need to?
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I will try to take some good photos tomorrow afternoon and upload them for free
download. I allow you to use these photos on the Bricklink website.
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| Author: | xoshimin | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 15:52 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | Hi,
I apologize in advance for my English, it is translated by Google.
I bought and sorted 9797 sets a lot, so I have information about 9797 sets.
Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012. You can distinguish
the set versions by the LEGO copyright information on the boxes and paper sheets.
The first version of the set (2006) had the following differences:
1 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538b Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation)
4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Black Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
4019 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (First Version - 4 Round Holes)
32269 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
x1678 Dark Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, AC plug
The second version of the set (2009) had the following differences:
2 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538c Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
4716 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Blue Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
94925 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (Second Version - Reinforced)
32269 Tan Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
87662c01 Very Light Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, DC
plug
Add 55615 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin Connector Perpendicular 3 x 3 Bent with
4 Pins
Third version of the set (2012) had the following differences:
Removed x1676 Black Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm
Removed 6035c01 White Electric, Light Brick 1 x 2 with Single Side Light (6034
/ 6035)
There are errors in inventory 9797, this set did not have details of color "Light
Gray".
I didn't track the differences in the parts of the minifigures.
Best regards
Alexei
|
I have parted this set out many times. I did find light gray pieces once.
|
Thanks for your reply.
I think this is a mistake.
Or the parts were replaced with parts with the color Light Gray (in the used
set). Or the parts are yellowed with time (if the set was sealed).
If we look in the Bricklink database for details with the color Light Gray (3023,
3894, 3702, 3703, 56145), then we will see that LEGO did not use this color after
2004. A set of 9797 began production in 2006. The 56145 wheel was not produced
at all in the Light Gray color.
Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.
Alexei
|
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 14:56 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Gear 853600 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3626cpb0675 Sand Green Minifigure, Head Female with Black Eyebrows, Eyelashes, White Pupils, Dark Green Lips Pattern - Hollow Stud (Alternate) (match ID 1)
Comments from Submitter:
Minifigure in this set has been found with c head. Corrected version of this request: https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=268141
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| Author: | Hermano1979 | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 14:45 | | Subject: | Re: 6373 Motorcycle Shop inventory question | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, SezaR writes:
Thanx!
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| Author: | Hermano1979 | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 14:29 | | Subject: | 6373 Motorcycle Shop inventory question | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| Hi,
I rebuild this old set according to BL inventory list and original instructions.
But in the end I have 3 bits left...
2x 3024 Yellow Plate 1 x 1
1x 3794a Yellow Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)
Looked at the instructions a couple of times now and I just can't figure
out where to put them.
Any ideas?
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 11:37 | | Subject: | Re: More Variants Discovered | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | […]
Fair point. But the same sets packaged in different factories or even at different
times in the same factory, or perhaps even at the same time in the same factory,
may contain different variants.
|
That other sets came out differently from the same (or not) factory at the same
time (or not) doesn’t change the fact that one set is as it was when it came
out of the factory.
All the sesterces are different, it doesn’t change the fact some of them can
be certified as being real antique coins from a certified time-period.
| | I stand by my opinion that period-specificity is at least somewhat delusional.
|
If you’re “bricklinking” the set.
And it also depends on your value of “good enough”: Do you trace all the parts,
asserting they came from boxes the siblings of the set you’re bricklinking?
Or are you content with “we know these variants were made around that time”?
| | | | So even if BL’s catalogue didn’t exist, one could still be proud of owning a
period-specific set.
|
True. But what does that even mean?
|
Well, you are the one who used the term
| | […]
Because of the aforementioned variability in packaging for a given set, what
real meaning do the words "historically accurate" or "period-specific" even have?
|
There’s the same thing with cars: there are the “only original parts,” the “we
replaced some parts with others from the same manufacturer and period,” and the
“we used some 3D-printed parts” and so on. And some parts (chassis, engine…)
are more important than others (belts) and even on some important parts, some
modifications are allowed without removing value (remove rusted parts of the
body, weld some new bits).
There’s the same thing with all collectible items.
And the “meaning” of “historically accurate” or “period-specific” is not binary
(is / isn’t), it’s, like about every word, a gradation of what people agree it
is.
It can be discussed precisely, generally between a seller and a buyer, to translate
it in monetary value, but it’ll still be generally fuzzy.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 10:45 | | Subject: | Re: More Variants Discovered | | Viewed: | 93 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | One’s owning the set since it was bought sealed and never having mixed its parts
allows one to say one’s copy is historically accurate.
Or any certified track of the set and its parts from the time it was bought sealed
allows the latest owner to say their copy is historically accurate.
|
Fair point. But the same sets packaged in different factories or even at different
times in the same factory, or perhaps even at the same time in the same factory,
may contain different variants.
I stand by my opinion that period-specificity is at least somewhat delusional.
| | So even if BL’s catalogue didn’t exist, one could still be proud of owning a
period-specific set.
|
True. But what does that even mean?
I do not have a large personal collection of LEGO parts. I looked through my
parts collection recently to create the attached image of the variants in molded
printing (which BL doesn't even distinguish) for just one part. And I missed
including one in the photo, by the way.
Each part in the photo shows a distinct and separate variant of molded printing,
with the second from the top having none at all. And my rough estimate at this
point is that at least two thirds of all parts have actual mold variants, while
most parts in production for more than a couple years probably have one or many
molded printing variants.
Because of the aforementioned variability in packaging for a given set, what
real meaning do the words "historically accurate" or "period-specific" even have?
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 10:40 | | Subject: | Re: More Variants Discovered | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
|
snip
| |
I think I've figured out that, in addition to the other problems with variants,
BrickLink perpetuates the somewhat delusional thinking of pride in owning a period-specific
set.
Only if every single variant was thoroughly documented and also documented to
have appeared in that set could you say that your copy of a set is historically
accurate. And considering that many (if not most or all) parts have variants,
chasing those phantoms might become rather nonsensical at some point.
|
Don't know about the delusion so much, but I would be pretty ticked off if
somebody sold me a so-called used complete at $1 000 and it included
a bunch of modern cheap variants. Or worse still some early space sets with
the wrong clips, and LBG and DBG parts. It is all relative - someone like me
prefer to deal ith the correct thing at the correct time and I am prepared to
invest the time and effort in it. From experience with return buyers, I know
I am not alone. And yes, I've had buyers ask me to check pips, pins, hole
sizes, clips and mold numbers and send images prior to shipping and also to make
sure the variants and colour differences are correct. Of course I've also
had buyers who just do not care.
I personally would not go as far as to mention closed and open pins and combinations
thereof, but I find for the serious buyer it pays to find serious sellers, catalogue
failings notwithstanding
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 10:32 | | Subject: | Re: More Variants Discovered | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
The note for this one can of course also be added to the unprinted 3009. And
probably a number of other decorated versions of this brick and other 1 x X bricks
and plates.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 10:22 | | Subject: | Re: More Variants Discovered | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | […]
Only if every single variant was thoroughly documented and also documented to
have appeared in that set could you say that your copy of a set is historically
accurate.
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Er, not exactly.
One’s owning the set since it was bought sealed and never having mixed its parts
allows one to say one’s copy is historically accurate.
Or any certified track of the set and its parts from the time it was bought sealed
allows the latest owner to say their copy is historically accurate.
So even if BL’s catalogue didn’t exist, one could still be proud of owning a
period-specific set.
| | And considering that many (if not most or all) parts have variants,
chasing those phantoms might become rather nonsensical at some point.
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And the one who discovers a variant can’t even have the ego-boost of the variant
being named after them.
No “3961 stormchaserus” for you
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 10:06 | | Subject: | Re: More Variants Discovered | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | I just added comparison photos and additional notes for the following part variants
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I've just added pictures and notes for ten more. A few are mildly interesting
and will be worth your time to see:
* | | 30387 Hinge Brick 1 x 4 Locking with 1 Finger Vertical End and 2 Fingers Vertical End
Parts: Hinge |
I think I've figured out that, in addition to the other problems with variants,
BrickLink perpetuates the somewhat delusional thinking of pride in owning a period-specific
set.
Only if every single variant was thoroughly documented and also documented to
have appeared in that set could you say that your copy of a set is historically
accurate. And considering that many (if not most or all) parts have variants,
chasing those phantoms might become rather nonsensical at some point.
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| Author: | 1271moggy | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 09:53 | | Subject: | Technic Stickered Assembly Items | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| I have been checking my son's Technic collection for completeness etc, and
have come across some Technic stickered assembly items, which are not in the
catalogue under the counterparts section.
Is there a reason for this, or is it simply no-one has been brave enough to
do it?
I don't mind having a go and try and get them entered, but I am not very
good with coming up with good accurate descriptions for the stickers. If it
was a plain number, I'd be fine, but when it comes to a SW figure, I don't
wish to describe it as one thing and upset the SW fans who know it should be
something else.
Also is there a limit to the number of characters you can put into a description?
As some Technic entry's are quite long before anything else is added.
See the photos for the items which I am referring to.
Any help/advise I would be most grateful for.
Thanking you all.
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| Author: | starbeanie | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 09:36 | | Subject: | Re: Parts with stickers on when parting out | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| Use Brickstock.
In Inventories, flheide writes:
| | In Inventories, Quaysretire writes:
| | I just parted out a used set, but I didn’t get the option to do the counterparts
with stickers, is that normal? So hence I feel like I have to go back through
and remove the items from the inventory and then readd them 1 by 1 with the new
part number with the sticker on. Painful
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Did you find a way to fix this?
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| Author: | CCBricks | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 09:05 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Gear 853600 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, CCBricks writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3626bpb0675 Sand Green Minifigure, Head Female with Black Eyebrows, Eyelashes, White Pupils, Dark Green Lips Pattern - Blocked Open Stud (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
Upon verifying this set, it appears that there is an alternate head type with is "recessed/closed" and not "blocked/open". Unless this variance should create no concern, a note should be made that this item contains a head variant. A note should also be made to col084, as the minifigure in 853600 could be confused with the original. Or, a new catalog entry should be made for the variant head.
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The new head should be added to the catalog first and can then be added as an
alternate to this magnet set.
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I've uploaded a face shot of this part. I have the "recessed" stud image,
but it replaces the face shot, so here is the stud image.
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| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 07:43 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6265-1 | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 2335 White Flag 2 x 2 Square (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Change 1 Part White 2335p04 Flag 2 x 2 Square with Imperial Soldier Black Symbol over White Cross on Blue Background Pattern {match ID 2 to 0}
Comments from Submitter:
The white flags were added as alternates because of the following change request:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=266509&nID=1191314
The submitter of that request now confirmed that the set with sticker sheet came with a printed small flag:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1197982
So I suggest to remove the plain white flag here since there is no evidence yet that it was ever inclueded in this set.
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| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 07:30 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 3723-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, dromeracer writes:
| | my own item of this type.
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By the way, does that mean you have an original copy of this set (i.e. you got
the set new and never mixed it with other parts)? If yes, could you check if
the parts
are the "c" type?
[p=32064c,3]
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| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 07:06 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 3723-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, dromeracer writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change {11 to 7} Part Red 3010 Brick 1 x 4
* Change {4 to 2} Part Red 3701 Technic, Brick 1 x 4 with Holes
Comments from Submitter:
Checked with my own item of this type. But at these two position I have another qunantity as in the bricklink inventory. So I have checked the building instruction regadring these two item and so i have confirmed that the bricklink inventory have this two failures..
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4 1x4 bricks and 2 1x4 technic bricks are needed for a different arm attachment.
See instructions page 80:
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| Author: | dromeracer | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 06:12 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 3723-1 | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change {11 to 7} Part Red 3010 Brick 1 x 4
* Change {4 to 2} Part Red 3701 Technic, Brick 1 x 4 with Holes
Comments from Submitter:
Checked with my own item of this type. But at these two position I have another qunantity as in the bricklink inventory. So I have checked the building instruction regadring these two item and so i have confirmed that the bricklink inventory have this two failures..
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| Author: | tatane79 | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 04:35 | | Subject: | Re: Some interface improvement proposals | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | | |
2. In the orders, I would like to keep the ID# of each part. Currently,
only the name of the part is kept.
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+1
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Hi,
I've actually found a functionality already available in BrickLink interface
to add the part ID# to the orders:
On the "Order Placed" screen, "Settings" "My Orders Settings" / "Order Detail
Settings" / "Show Item Number" tickbox.
Cheers,
Jonathan.
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| Author: | flheide | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 04:08 | | Subject: | Re: Parts with stickers on when parting out | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Quaysretire writes:
| | I just parted out a used set, but I didn’t get the option to do the counterparts
with stickers, is that normal? So hence I feel like I have to go back through
and remove the items from the inventory and then readd them 1 by 1 with the new
part number with the sticker on. Painful
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Did you find a way to fix this?
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| Author: | jurcek | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 01:40 | | Subject: | Re: No Dimensions in Catalog | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Suggestions, SchmickBricks writes:
| | Can we please have a function to search for items in our inventory with no catalog
dimensions? We already have one to search for weight, but not dimensions for
some strange reason.
I'm getting tired of bulky items sneaking through Instant checkout at letter
rates because they're missing catalog dimensions, and I have no way of finding
which items need me to manually enter their dimensions.
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The solution is already there for you. Be sure you have dimensions / weight turned
on for your store and then select the "Instant Checkout Unavailable" box in the
Show More Options section in your store inventory.
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Russell, how is it with dimensions of minifigures? I had often an order for 1
minifigure and the option Letter was offered at the instant checkout, because
there are no dimensions for them, and you can imagine, that you cannot send them
as letter, because they are to big for it. Any chance there will be a sollution
for this also, or do we have to put in the dimensions by ourselves?
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | May 18, 2020 23:26 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6391-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Red {4345 Container, Box 2 x 2 x 2 to 4345a Container, Box 2 x 2 x 2 - Solid Studs}
Comments from Submitter:
Checked in set in my personal collection that was bought new sealed and never mixed with parts from other sets.
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Hey Paul,
You bought this ultra rare set sealed?
How many years ago?
I assume you have the USA version of it.
Can you check these parts? It will help me for other inventories I am working
on:
1)
or
2)
or
3)
or
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Check the inventory change log for this set for my changes in December 2012.
I added the variants that I found in my set as alternates at that time. Not sure
when exactly I bought it but based on that request it was at least before December
2012.
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