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| | | Author: | johnnybravo  | | Posted: | Jul 24, 2021 11:57 | | Subject: | Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 131 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| I plan on becoming a seller soon of several used sets. I already read
these two help articles:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
I want to make sure I understand the rules perfectly, so could someone please
correct me if I'm wrong?
1) For a given set, if I have all the items in "Regular Items" on the Bricklink
Set Inventory, as well as the stickers either applied or on sheet, the set is
complete.
2) If I am missing an item from "Regular Items" but have a corresponding item
from "Alternate Items", the set is complete.
3) "Counterparts" are assembled from items in "Regular Items" but which you don't
want to or cannot easily disassemble. (Personally, IMHO this one confused me,
and I don't think it should exist as a category.)
4) "Extra Items" are not necessary for a set to be complete.
Thanks.
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| | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Jul 24, 2021 13:12 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | | In Selling, johnnybravo writes:
3) "Counterparts" are assembled from items in "Regular Items" but which you don't
want to or cannot easily disassemble. (Personally, IMHO this one confused me,
and I don't think it should exist as a category.)
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Then how should we list parts with their stickers applied? Items that can't
come apart once built? Or paired items that people prefer to sell together?
Counterparts are basically the difference between what you get from a New set,
or what you have from a Used set. And a catch-all for some other stuff. 
Jen
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| | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jul 24, 2021 13:21 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, johnnybravo writes:
| | 3) "Counterparts" are assembled from items in "Regular Items" but which you don't
want to or cannot easily disassemble. (Personally, IMHO this one confused me,
and I don't think it should exist as a category.)
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You've never damaged an assembly taking it apart? That's why this category
exists, apart from stickered parts
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| | | | | | | Author: | johnnybravo | | Posted: | Jul 24, 2021 14:18 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, jennnifer writes:
| | | | In Selling, johnnybravo writes:
3) "Counterparts" are assembled from items in "Regular Items" but which you don't
want to or cannot easily disassemble. (Personally, IMHO this one confused me,
and I don't think it should exist as a category.)
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Then how should we list parts with their stickers applied? Items that can't
come apart once built? Or paired items that people prefer to sell together?
Counterparts are basically the difference between what you get from a New set,
or what you have from a Used set. And a catch-all for some other stuff.
Jen
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | In Selling, johnnybravo writes:
| | 3) "Counterparts" are assembled from items in "Regular Items" but which you don't
want to or cannot easily disassemble. (Personally, IMHO this one confused me,
and I don't think it should exist as a category.)
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You've never damaged an assembly taking it apart? That's why this category
exists, apart from stickered parts
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So did I understand the rules correctly?
As for the counterparts, I'm new to this and it took me some time to figure
all this stuff out is what I'm saying. Don't want to start a debate,
it's just my opinion. "regular" vs "alternate" vs "extra" vs "counterpart".
I didn't think it was very simple or easy to understand at the outset. I
didn't get that counterparts was just assembled regular items. As a noob,
I just looked at the stickers and the parts. I didn't feel I needed a separate
category of parts+stickers or assembled parts. If they obviously can't be
taken apart safely, then I just leave it as is.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 24, 2021 14:25 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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So did I understand the rules correctly?
As for the counterparts, I'm new to this and it took me some time to figure
all this stuff out is what I'm saying. Don't want to start a debate,
it's just my opinion. "regular" vs "alternate" vs "extra" vs "counterpart".
I didn't think it was very simple or easy to understand at the outset. I
didn't get that counterparts was just assembled regular items. As a noob,
I just looked at the stickers and the parts. I didn't feel I needed a separate
category of parts+stickers or assembled parts. If they obviously can't be
taken apart safely, then I just leave it as is.
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The issue comes when parting out a set, selling individual parts. Those parts
that cannot be taken apart should not be sold as part A or part B, as they are
neither, so they are sold as the combination A+B, and need to be in the set inventory.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 24, 2021 14:37 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, yorbrick writes:
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So did I understand the rules correctly?
As for the counterparts, I'm new to this and it took me some time to figure
all this stuff out is what I'm saying. Don't want to start a debate,
it's just my opinion. "regular" vs "alternate" vs "extra" vs "counterpart".
I didn't think it was very simple or easy to understand at the outset. I
didn't get that counterparts was just assembled regular items. As a noob,
I just looked at the stickers and the parts. I didn't feel I needed a separate
category of parts+stickers or assembled parts. If they obviously can't be
taken apart safely, then I just leave it as is.
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The issue comes when parting out a set, selling individual parts. Those parts
that cannot be taken apart should not be sold as part A or part B, as they are
neither, so they are sold as the combination A+B, and need to be in the set inventory.
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And A+B can’t be in the set inventory along with A & B, because there’s only
so many A and so many B OR so many A+B (or combinations thereof but that’s becoming
complicated ).
If A+B were along A & B in the Regular section, it wouldn’t be clear how many
A & B the set has.
And you can’t replace A & B by A+B because new sets come with A & B, not A+B.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | johnnybravo | | Posted: | Jul 24, 2021 15:17 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Selling, yorbrick writes:
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So did I understand the rules correctly?
As for the counterparts, I'm new to this and it took me some time to figure
all this stuff out is what I'm saying. Don't want to start a debate,
it's just my opinion. "regular" vs "alternate" vs "extra" vs "counterpart".
I didn't think it was very simple or easy to understand at the outset. I
didn't get that counterparts was just assembled regular items. As a noob,
I just looked at the stickers and the parts. I didn't feel I needed a separate
category of parts+stickers or assembled parts. If they obviously can't be
taken apart safely, then I just leave it as is.
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The issue comes when parting out a set, selling individual parts. Those parts
that cannot be taken apart should not be sold as part A or part B, as they are
neither, so they are sold as the combination A+B, and need to be in the set inventory.
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And A+B can’t be in the set inventory along with A & B, because there’s only
so many A and so many B OR so many A+B (or combinations thereof but that’s becoming
complicated ).
If A+B were along A & B in the Regular section, it wouldn’t be clear how many
A & B the set has.
And you can’t replace A & B by A+B because new sets come with A & B, not A+B.
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Ok. Still confusing. Seems arbitrary. So long as I'm playing by the rules,
I don't really care.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jul 24, 2021 19:30 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, johnnybravo writes:
| | As for the counterparts, I'm new to this and it took me some time to figure
all this stuff out is what I'm saying. Don't want to start a debate,
it's just my opinion. "regular" vs "alternate" vs "extra" vs "counterpart".
I didn't think it was very simple or easy to understand at the outset. I
didn't get that counterparts was just assembled regular items. As a noob,
I just looked at the stickers and the parts. I didn't feel I needed a separate
category of parts+stickers or assembled parts. If they obviously can't be
taken apart safely, then I just leave it as is.
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I don't mean to debate either and it took me a while to figure this out as
well. Basically the counterparts exist to make sure a seller doesn't replace
a part in a set with a counterpart that also includes the part. For example,
if there is a set that includes
and
then you could replace these with their counterpart
and sell it as Complete; but not with, say,
and
while selling it as Complete
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| | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 24, 2021 17:44 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, johnnybravo writes:
| | I plan on becoming a seller soon of several used sets. I already read
these two help articles:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
I want to make sure I understand the rules perfectly, so could someone please
correct me if I'm wrong?
1) For a given set, if I have all the items in "Regular Items" on the Bricklink
Set Inventory, as well as the stickers either applied or on sheet, the set is
complete.
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Yes.
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from "Alternate Items", the set is complete.
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Yes.
| | 3) "Counterparts" are assembled from items in "Regular Items" but which you don't
want to or cannot easily disassemble. (Personally, IMHO this one confused me,
and I don't think it should exist as a category.)
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Yes.
| | 4) "Extra Items" are not necessary for a set to be complete.
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Yes.
Your understanding is excellent.
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| | | | | | | Author: | johnnybravo | | Posted: | Jul 24, 2021 19:28 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, johnnybravo writes:
| | I plan on becoming a seller soon of several used sets. I already read
these two help articles:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
I want to make sure I understand the rules perfectly, so could someone please
correct me if I'm wrong?
1) For a given set, if I have all the items in "Regular Items" on the Bricklink
Set Inventory, as well as the stickers either applied or on sheet, the set is
complete.
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Yes.
| | 2) If I am missing an item from "Regular Items" but have a corresponding item
from "Alternate Items", the set is complete.
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Yes.
| | 3) "Counterparts" are assembled from items in "Regular Items" but which you don't
want to or cannot easily disassemble. (Personally, IMHO this one confused me,
and I don't think it should exist as a category.)
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Yes.
| | 4) "Extra Items" are not necessary for a set to be complete.
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Yes.
Your understanding is excellent.
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Good. Thank you for letting me know.
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 24, 2021 21:55 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Selling, johnnybravo writes:
| | I plan on becoming a seller soon of several used sets. I already read
these two help articles:
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Please notice this paragraph:
Complete - Set contains all parts necessary to build all of the models
(including alternate models) in the instructions but does not have to contain
the original box/packaging and/or extra parts. If the set is missing instructions,
the description must state so. If the set did not come with instructions then
the set should include all parts listed in the picture inventory which is located
on the box or bucket. The set must include all original stickers used on the
model either still on the sticker sheet or applied.
This is what defines a complete used set from the administration's perspective.
It is not defined by the regular itmes section of the BrickLink set inventory.
So for example, if someone reports your used complete listing as a violation:
we will not remove it simply because it is missing the two plumes that are not
used in the build:
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It is a shame that there is no way of cataloguing which parts are necessary for
the builds in a set.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 24, 2021 23:53 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, yorbrick writes:
| | In Selling, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Selling, johnnybravo writes:
| | I plan on becoming a seller soon of several used sets. I already read
these two help articles:
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Please notice this paragraph:
Complete - Set contains all parts necessary to build all of the models
(including alternate models) in the instructions but does not have to contain
the original box/packaging and/or extra parts. If the set is missing instructions,
the description must state so. If the set did not come with instructions then
the set should include all parts listed in the picture inventory which is located
on the box or bucket. The set must include all original stickers used on the
model either still on the sticker sheet or applied.
This is what defines a complete used set from the administration's perspective.
It is not defined by the regular itmes section of the BrickLink set inventory.
So for example, if someone reports your used complete listing as a violation:
we will not remove it simply because it is missing the two plumes that are not
used in the build:
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It is a shame that there is no way of cataloguing which parts are necessary for
the builds in a set.
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Do we know how often the Regular section does not coincide with the list of parts
necessary for (all) the build(s)?
I know there’s the plumes, which, being on a sprue and used in Minifigs, are
a pain to catalogue.
There’s also the plates round 1x1 on their sprues. By their being replaced by
the pair on sprue in inventories lately, we¹ lose the information about how many
were Extra.
I guess there’s other parts on sprue or bags (tools…) in the same situation.
Hmm, that’s already a not so small list… but are there more cases?
———
¹ I hope the catalogue kept the info somewhere?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 25, 2021 00:07 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
| | Hmm, that’s already a not so small list… but are there more cases?
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It is pretty much limited to the parts on sprue and parts in multipacks. When
compared to the totality of parts in the course of LEGO history, this is a very
small list.
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¹ I hope the catalogue kept the info somewhere?
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It is in the inventory change request logs for the sets.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 25, 2021 00:22 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
| | Hmm, that’s already a not so small list… but are there more cases?
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It is pretty much limited to the parts on sprue and parts in multipacks. When
compared to the totality of parts in the course of LEGO history, this is a very
small list.
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Well, I didn’t express myself correctly: the list of sets that are concerned
is not so small a list.
[P=3742c01] is in 358 sets.
[P=4073c01] in 146.
Okay, that’s still small compared to the 16,988 sets in the catalogue… but not
when it’s 50% of the sets you own 
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¹ I hope the catalogue kept the info somewhere?
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It is in the inventory change request logs for the sets.
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Guh, I forgot about the logs….
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 25, 2021 00:43 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
| | Well, I didn’t express myself correctly: the list of sets that are concerned
is not so small a list.
[P=3742c01] is in 358 sets.
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To be fair, the sets that contained the above sprue *never* had the unused flowers
broken out into the Extra Items section. This sprue was the main impetus for
moving the other sprued parts into the Regular Items section.
This one was added into inventories to make them historically accurate and unorphan
the above entry.
All other sprued parts and multipacks pale in comparison to the above two cases.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Jul 25, 2021 02:20 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
| | Do we know how often the Regular section does not coincide with the list of parts
necessary for (all) the build(s)?
I know there’s the plumes, which, being on a sprue and used in Minifigs, are
a pain to catalogue.
There’s also the plates round 1x1 on their sprues. By their being replaced by
the pair on sprue in inventories lately, we¹ lose the information about how many
were Extra.
I guess there’s other parts on sprue or bags (tools…) in the same situation.
Hmm, that’s already a not so small list… but are there more cases?
———
¹ I hope the catalogue kept the info somewhere?
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There's brick separators. I was going to mention train track stacking pins
and rubber belt holders. But those two are listed as extra parts in inventories.
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| | | | | | | Author: | johnnybravo | | Posted: | Jul 25, 2021 13:40 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Selling, johnnybravo writes:
| | I plan on becoming a seller soon of several used sets. I already read
these two help articles:
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Please notice this paragraph:
Complete - Set contains all parts necessary to build all of the models
(including alternate models) in the instructions but does not have to contain
the original box/packaging and/or extra parts. If the set is missing instructions,
the description must state so. If the set did not come with instructions then
the set should include all parts listed in the picture inventory which is located
on the box or bucket. The set must include all original stickers used on the
model either still on the sticker sheet or applied.
This is what defines a complete used set from the administration's perspective.
It is not defined by the regular itmes section of the BrickLink set inventory.
So for example, if someone reports your used complete listing as a violation:
we will not remove it simply because it is missing the two plumes that are not
used in the build:
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You're making things too complicated for me to understand. I just need a
simple answer. All I need to know is, can I just use the "Regular Items" section
of the Set Inventory to build a complete set and then sell it on your platform
or not? Or do I need to refer to some other inventory list to complete the set?
I don't get the example you just gave me. Those two items, 4502a and 4502c
are listed as regular items. Why would I not include them when building that
particular set? Are you telling me that there are parts in Regular Items that
are not used in any of the models? Then why would they be listed as regular items
at all?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jul 25, 2021 14:02 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, johnnybravo writes:
| | I don't get the example you just gave me. Those two items, 4502a and 4502c
are listed as regular items. Why would I not include them when building that
particular set? Are you telling me that there are parts in Regular Items that
are not used in any of the models? Then why would they be listed as regular items
at all?
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The set in question originally came with three plumes on a single sprue, but
only one of those plumes was actually used in the building of the set:
[P=4502c01,1]
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 25, 2021 14:29 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | In Selling, johnnybravo writes:
| | I don't get the example you just gave me. Those two items, 4502a and 4502c
are listed as regular items. Why would I not include them when building that
particular set? Are you telling me that there are parts in Regular Items that
are not used in any of the models? Then why would they be listed as regular items
at all?
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The set in question originally came with three plumes on a single sprue, but
only one of those plumes was actually used in the building of the set:
[P=4502c01,1]
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And the plume that’s used is used in a minifigure, so the 3 parts can’t be replaced
by the sprue in the inventory because they are not together.
But a Sealed New set would have the sprue, not the 3 separate parts.
And a Used set only needs the one that’s in the minifigure.
These plumes are a pain for the catalogue.
The problem is the catalogue “only” describes what’s in a set (what TLG put there),
it’s not here to explain what should be in an item for sale on BL, either New
or Used.
As Yorbrick said, “what’s needed to build the set” is not in the catalogue… but
it’s what BL want you to sell when you sell a set. So people use the inventory…
with “known” exceptions.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Jul 25, 2021 14:40 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | In Selling, johnnybravo writes:
| | I don't get the example you just gave me. Those two items, 4502a and 4502c
are listed as regular items. Why would I not include them when building that
particular set? Are you telling me that there are parts in Regular Items that
are not used in any of the models? Then why would they be listed as regular items
at all?
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The set in question originally came with three plumes on a single sprue, but
only one of those plumes was actually used in the building of the set:
[P=4502c01,1]
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And the plume that’s used is used in a minifigure, so the 3 parts can’t be replaced
by the sprue in the inventory because they are not together.
But a Sealed New set would have the sprue, not the 3 separate parts.
And a Used set only needs the one that’s in the minifigure.
These plumes are a pain for the catalogue.
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There was once the idea of moving the figs to the counterpart section, and putting
in the set inventory actually what was inside the set.
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The problem is the catalogue “only” describes what’s in a set (what TLG put there),
it’s not here to explain what should be in an item for sale on BL, either New
or Used.
As Yorbrick said, “what’s needed to build the set” is not in the catalogue… but
it’s what BL want you to sell when you sell a set. So people use the inventory…
with “known” exceptions.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 25, 2021 17:16 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | | And the plume that’s used is used in a minifigure, so the 3 parts can’t be replaced
by the sprue in the inventory because they are not together.
But a Sealed New set would have the sprue, not the 3 separate parts.
And a Used set only needs the one that’s in the minifigure.
These plumes are a pain for the catalogue.
The problem is the catalogue “only” describes what’s in a set (what TLG put there),
it’s not here to explain what should be in an item for sale on BL, either New
or Used.
As Yorbrick said, “what’s needed to build the set” is not in the catalogue… but
it’s what BL want you to sell when you sell a set. So people use the inventory…
with “known” exceptions.
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This is where the catalogue rules beats common sense. The inventory is no longer
what a customer can necessarily expect to get when they purchase a (used) because
those "extra", unnecessary for the build parts are not extras but regular parts.
Just because they happened to be supplied on a sprue with the necessary parts
and not removed before distribution.
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 25, 2021 15:14 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Selling, johnnybravo writes:
| | I plan on becoming a seller soon of several used sets. I already read
these two help articles:
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Please notice this paragraph:
Complete - Set contains all parts necessary to build all of the models
(including alternate models) in the instructions but does not have to contain
the original box/packaging and/or extra parts. If the set is missing instructions,
the description must state so. If the set did not come with instructions then
the set should include all parts listed in the picture inventory which is located
on the box or bucket. The set must include all original stickers used on the
model either still on the sticker sheet or applied.
This is what defines a complete used set from the administration's perspective.
It is not defined by the regular itmes section of the BrickLink set inventory.
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What happens with “classic brick” sets, where there’s no instructions and only
a few builds that are far from using all the bricks on the box?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Jul 25, 2021 15:31 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
| | What happens with “classic brick” sets, where there’s no instructions and only
a few builds that are far from using all the bricks on the box?
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As it says in the help section: If the set did not come with instructions then
the set should include all parts listed in the picture inventory which is located
on the box or bucket. https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 25, 2021 16:36 | | Subject: | Re: Complete Set (Regular Alternate Counterpart) | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, paulvdb writes:
| | In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
| | What happens with “classic brick” sets, where there’s no instructions and only
a few builds that are far from using all the bricks on the box?
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As it says in the help section: If the set did not come with instructions then
the set should include all parts listed in the picture inventory which is located
on the box or bucket. https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
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Ah yes, sorry, I was somehow totally blind to this part. Brainfart.
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USA, Massachusetts
United Kingdom, England
France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
Netherlands, Overijssel
Germany, Niedersachsen
Spain, Comunidad Valenciana