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| | | Author: | Admin_Russell  | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 07:21 | | Subject: | EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 865 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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Location:  USA, California |
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| An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
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| | | | | Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 07:38 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 153 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
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This is quite the opposite of what my tax professional said. I was told that
I have nothing to do with my preceding 12 months sales (at least here in Austria,
it could vary by country). All I need to monitor is my sales from July 1st, 2021
and if it's not exceeding the EUR 10 000 treshold this year I'm OK to
register not sooner than 2022.
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• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
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What if I already have a valid VAT-ID but I'm in VAT-exempt status until
the end of this year for sure? Should I add my VAT-ID but not enabling VAT in
my settings?
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| | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 07:45 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 129 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, rankster writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
|
This is quite the opposite of what my tax professional said. I was told that
I have nothing to do with my preceding 12 months sales (at least here in Austria,
it could vary by country). All I need to monitor is my sales from July 1st, 2021
and if it's not exceeding the EUR 10 000 treshold this year I'm OK to
register not sooner than 2022.
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Same here (Netherlands). Imo same in all EU countries, for it is a EU Guideline.
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• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
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What if I already have a valid VAT-ID but I'm in VAT-exempt status until
the end of this year for sure? Should I add my VAT-ID but not enabling VAT in
my settings?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 07:58 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 118 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, rankster writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
|
This is quite the opposite of what my tax professional said. I was told that
I have nothing to do with my preceding 12 months sales (at least here in Austria,
it could vary by country). All I need to monitor is my sales from July 1st, 2021
and if it's not exceeding the EUR 10 000 treshold this year I'm OK to
register not sooner than 2022.
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Same here (Netherlands). Imo same in all EU countries, for it is a EU Guideline.
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• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
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What if I already have a valid VAT-ID but I'm in VAT-exempt status until
the end of this year for sure? Should I add my VAT-ID but not enabling VAT in
my settings?
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+1
I am not selling over the threshold this year, and I will not use local VAT rates
this year, no matter if you suspend me or not. I simply am not able to use the
new scheme at this point, because my software needs to be rewritten and I cannot
do that now. I am doing that in december.
Last year's sales do not matter under the Dutch legislation. I'm acting
100% in accordance with the new laws.
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| | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 07:43 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 145 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
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About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.
About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.
Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.
I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????
Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.
So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.
If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.
And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.
I planned a quiet day today!
https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:02 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 95 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
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I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
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 There’s a problem with your dates. It should be 2020, no?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:13 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 85 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | […]
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
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There’s a problem with your dates. It should be 2020, no?
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yes you are right 
The UK-EU period of the last 12 months.
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| | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:05 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 106 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.
About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.
Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.
I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????
Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.
So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.
If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.
And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.
I planned a quiet day today!
https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp
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Addition:
When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:17 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 87 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.
About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.
Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.
I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????
Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.
So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.
If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.
And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.
I planned a quiet day today!
https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp
|
Addition:
When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.
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I was assuming submitting an OSS automatically means the VAT will be the percentage
of the buyer's country. They're asking sellers to do that, so that must
mean that that is what Bricklink is supporting. But yes, it would be good to
hear some more info on this. For example if it can be switched on and off by
the seller, or if Bricklink is forcing sellers. (Although you can still do what
you want in your own administration and ignore what Bricklink does, if you're
not fussy about earning 1-2% more or less)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:37 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Teup writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.
About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.
Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.
I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????
Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.
So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.
If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.
And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.
I planned a quiet day today!
https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp
|
Addition:
When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.
|
I was assuming submitting an OSS automatically means the VAT will be the percentage
of the buyer's country. They're asking sellers to do that, so that must
mean that that is what Bricklink is supporting. But yes, it would be good to
hear some more info on this. For example if it can be switched on and off by
the seller, or if Bricklink is forcing sellers. (Although you can still do what
you want in your own administration and ignore what Bricklink does, if you're
not fussy about earning 1-2% more or less)
|
If you count the time you spend on administration since all changes with PostNL,
Brexit, US Sales Tax, we already lost a lot. So, yes I am 'fussy' about
1-2% less.
Although I don't know the outcome yet. DE 19% sales might be more 21+% sales.
But it's the administration that counts. Time is money!
And speaking about Time: Er komt 'n tijd dat we meer bezig zijn met administratie
dan met de rest van onze in- en verkoop werkzaamheden.
|
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:48 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 77 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, Teup writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.
About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.
Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.
I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????
Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.
So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.
If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.
And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.
I planned a quiet day today!
https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp
|
Addition:
When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.
|
I was assuming submitting an OSS automatically means the VAT will be the percentage
of the buyer's country. They're asking sellers to do that, so that must
mean that that is what Bricklink is supporting. But yes, it would be good to
hear some more info on this. For example if it can be switched on and off by
the seller, or if Bricklink is forcing sellers. (Although you can still do what
you want in your own administration and ignore what Bricklink does, if you're
not fussy about earning 1-2% more or less)
|
If you count the time you spend on administration since all changes with PostNL,
Brexit, US Sales Tax, we already lost a lot. So, yes I am 'fussy' about
1-2% less.
Although I don't know the outcome yet. DE 19% sales might be more 21+% sales.
But it's the administration that counts. Time is money!
And speaking about Time: Er komt 'n tijd dat we meer bezig zijn met administratie
dan met de rest van onze in- en verkoop werkzaamheden.
|
If my Sale price incl. 21% VAT is € 121, a German buyer should see a price of
€ 119 and receive an Invoice or Purchase notification of € 119, VAT 19% =
€ 19 over € 100 NET. If they still pay € 121, the seller has to calculate, received
€ 121 / 119 x 100 = NET and € 121 / 119 x 19 = VAT
Back to the sixties!
|
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:57 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 79 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, Teup writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.
About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.
Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.
I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????
Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.
So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.
If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.
And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.
I planned a quiet day today!
https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp
|
Addition:
When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.
|
I was assuming submitting an OSS automatically means the VAT will be the percentage
of the buyer's country. They're asking sellers to do that, so that must
mean that that is what Bricklink is supporting. But yes, it would be good to
hear some more info on this. For example if it can be switched on and off by
the seller, or if Bricklink is forcing sellers. (Although you can still do what
you want in your own administration and ignore what Bricklink does, if you're
not fussy about earning 1-2% more or less)
|
If you count the time you spend on administration since all changes with PostNL,
Brexit, US Sales Tax, we already lost a lot. So, yes I am 'fussy' about
1-2% less.
Although I don't know the outcome yet. DE 19% sales might be more 21+% sales.
But it's the administration that counts. Time is money!
And speaking about Time: Er komt 'n tijd dat we meer bezig zijn met administratie
dan met de rest van onze in- en verkoop werkzaamheden.
|
If my Sale price incl. 21% VAT is € 121, a German buyer should see a price of
€ 119 and receive an Invoice or Purchase notification of € 119, VAT 19% =
€ 19 over € 100 NET. If they still pay € 121, the seller has to calculate, received
€ 121 / 119 x 100 = NET and € 121 / 119 x 19 = VAT
Back to the sixties!
|
Ah yep it depends on your workflow I guess. I have always ignored Bricklink's
VAT and other features, I just feed the order's grand total into my software
and work from there. So if I receive €121 instead of €119 from a German customer
it would make no difference to me in terms of administration. Right now it charges
21% regardless, and will charge the percentage of the buyer once I update the
software in december. So I ignore what Bricklink does.
But of course, all of this isn't an excuse for Bricklink not to get it right.
|
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Bricks_And_More | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:18 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 86 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| snip..
| |
Addition:
When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.
|
That's my question too!
If a buyer from Germany buys from me then, the vat is 19%, if it's a customer
from Hongary, it's 27%! Must i eat the difference myself? Or just put 27%
on all my items to avoid that?
How can i manage that with my prices?
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| | | | | Author: | ZwarteMagica | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 14:38 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 166 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| Dear BrickLink,
Thank you for your e-mail regarding "implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce
rules for online marketplaces". First, I feel quite threatened by your e-mail
because of the combined deadline (30 days), the sanction (revoking seller privileges)
and incorrect rules mentioned. HappyB has always worked compliant with the Dutch
and EU laws. By my knowledge your rules/information is incorrect. Let me explain.
HappyB applies the Dutch version of 'VAT margin goods' ('margeregeling'
in Dutch) on all it's sold products.
https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/bldcontentnl/belastingdienst/zakelijk/btw/zakendoen_met_het_buitenland/goederen_en_diensten_naar_andere_eu_landen/export_van_specifieke_goederen_en_in_bijzondere_situaties/export_margegoederen_naar_eu_landen
The above link is an official page from the Dutch national Tax agency. It clearly
states that, when applying the 'margeregeling' no VAT should be mentioned
on the invoice and no VAT should be charged to the customer. The seller should
pay VAT over the profit to the Dutch tax agency.
https://www.kvk.nl/advies-en-informatie/internationaal-ondernemen/e-commerce/btw-regels-voor-e-commerce-in-de-eu/
The above link is an official page from the Dutch Chamber of Commerce. It clearly
states that all sales done using the previously mentioned 'margeregeling'
do not count towards the €10.000 threshold mentioned in BrickLink's e-mail.
Again, HappyB applies the Dutch version of 'VAT margin goods' ('margeregeling'
in Dutch) on all it's products.
Please confirm having received this message.
We do not intent to register for VAT on BrickLink.
We do not (yet) intent to activate BrickLink's marketplaces functionality.
Please confirm that my store will not lose it's selling privileges in 30
days, regardless the above.
Please confirm that HappyB will continue to be able to sell to buyers from other
EU countries.
Kind regards,
HappyB
Marcel
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| | | | | Author: | bricks.steine | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 16:08 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 146 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| As stated by the Dutch member, the same regulation concerning used goods (Differenzbesteuerung)
applies in Germany. All goods sold by using Differenzbesteuerung are not counting
for the 10000 Euro.
Regards
Stefan
In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
|
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| | | | | | | Author: | sw_minifigs | | Posted: | Jul 15, 2021 07:25 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 81 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, bricks.steine writes:
| | As stated by the Dutch member, the same regulation concerning used goods (Differenzbesteuerung)
applies in Germany. All goods sold by using Differenzbesteuerung are not counting
for the 10000 Euro.
Regards
Stefan
In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
|
Hello,
In Germany it means "Differenzbesteuerung" and is included in our UstG. §25 ...
But what about the dealers who use this regulation? The new OSS EU reform does
not apply to us, but I don't see any option here at bricklink to choose an
option that takes this into account, so here there is either with or without
tax.
I think that affects most of the dealers here, does anyone know more? how to
get around that or what bricklink is going to do here? would be nonsense if there
were no more dealerships for used goods on bricklink in 30 days, right?
|
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jul 15, 2021 07:30 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, sw_minifigs writes:
| | In Administrative, bricks.steine writes:
| | As stated by the Dutch member, the same regulation concerning used goods (Differenzbesteuerung)
|
|
[snip]
| |
Hello,
In Germany it means "Differenzbesteuerung" and is included in our UstG. §25 ...
But what about the dealers who use this regulation? The new OSS EU reform does
not apply to us, but I don't see any option here at bricklink to choose an
option that takes this into account, so here there is either with or without
tax.
I think that affects most of the dealers here, does anyone know more? how to
get around that or what bricklink is going to do here? would be nonsense if there
were no more dealerships for used goods on bricklink in 30 days, right?
|
Same here. I just do NOT registed my VAT ID at BrickLink. Because margin goods
are not liable for VAT, and you are not allowed to charge VAT on margin goods
sales. So BrickLink is not allowed either.
We have to wait and see how BrickLink is dealing with this regulation. In principle
they do not have to do anything.
Unless your store sales exceeds 10k on BrickLink then they might contact you
or suspend your store. However, margin goods sales do NOT count for the 10k threshold,
so that might be an issue if BrickLink does not consider that.
|
|
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Ikspeellego | | Posted: | Aug 17, 2023 03:24 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 104 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, leggodtshop writes:
| | In Administrative, sw_minifigs writes:
| | In Administrative, bricks.steine writes:
| | As stated by the Dutch member, the same regulation concerning used goods (Differenzbesteuerung)
|
|
[snip]
| |
Hello,
In Germany it means "Differenzbesteuerung" and is included in our UstG. §25 ...
But what about the dealers who use this regulation? The new OSS EU reform does
not apply to us, but I don't see any option here at bricklink to choose an
option that takes this into account, so here there is either with or without
tax.
I think that affects most of the dealers here, does anyone know more? how to
get around that or what bricklink is going to do here? would be nonsense if there
were no more dealerships for used goods on bricklink in 30 days, right?
|
Same here. I just do NOT registed my VAT ID at BrickLink. Because margin goods
are not liable for VAT, and you are not allowed to charge VAT on margin goods
sales. So BrickLink is not allowed either.
We have to wait and see how BrickLink is dealing with this regulation. In principle
they do not have to do anything.
Unless your store sales exceeds 10k on BrickLink then they might contact you
or suspend your store. However, margin goods sales do NOT count for the 10k threshold,
so that might be an issue if BrickLink does not consider that.
|
can one register his vat-id on bricklink and mark the vat disable in settings?
I have a valid VAT number, but as a small company I am exempt from VAT
|
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Ikspeellego | | Posted: | Aug 17, 2023 03:30 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| | (Cancelled) |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Ikspeellego | | Posted: | Aug 17, 2023 03:31 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| | (Cancelled) |
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| | | | | | | Author: | tec | | Posted: | Aug 17, 2023 09:25 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| | (Cancelled) |
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| | | | | Author: | CanadaFirst | | Posted: | Jul 15, 2021 10:17 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 96 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| Seeing as the consequence of non-compliance is the revocation of seller privileges
and that our bricklink shop is the sole income for our employees could you please
confirm that as a non-EU based seller (Canada) we do not have to register for
VAT in Europe and that tihngs will go on as they are now IE bricklink-generated
VAT invoices?
If I misread this and need to register to each an every EU country it would be
good to know well in advance since I believe such a process could take a little
while...
Thanks!
|
|
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| | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Jul 16, 2021 01:05 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 75 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, CanadaFirst writes:
| | Seeing as the consequence of non-compliance is the revocation of seller privileges
and that our bricklink shop is the sole income for our employees could you please
confirm that as a non-EU based seller (Canada) we do not have to register for
VAT in Europe and that tihngs will go on as they are now IE bricklink-generated
VAT invoices?
If I misread this and need to register to each an every EU country it would be
good to know well in advance since I believe such a process could take a little
while...
Thanks!
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You don't have to register. This BIG PROBLEM only concerns EU-sellers.
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| | | | | Author: | brickinmiheart | | Posted: | Jul 15, 2021 14:24 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 145 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
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I hope you not push too far, so this wonderful site suffers.
This looks to be a hinder to me, way too complicated to overcome this quick.
I dont have a clue about this, how it will affect me in Norway that are outside
the EU seen from private consume but taken over by EU in so many other ways.
So will it be possible to exclude the EU countries and see how this works?
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| | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Jul 16, 2021 01:09 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 113 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, kilovara writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
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I hope you not push too far, so this wonderful site suffers.
This looks to be a hinder to me, way too complicated to overcome this quick.
I dont have a clue about this, how it will affect me in Norway that are outside
the EU seen from private consume but taken over by EU in so many other ways.
So will it be possible to exclude the EU countries and see how this works?
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This only concerns EU-sellers, so you don't have to overcome anything, you
even don't have to understand it. Bricklink does have to understand it though.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | brickinmiheart | | Posted: | Jul 16, 2021 13:40 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 91 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, kilovara writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
I hope you not push too far, so this wonderful site suffers.
This looks to be a hinder to me, way too complicated to overcome this quick.
I dont have a clue about this, how it will affect me in Norway that are outside
the EU seen from private consume but taken over by EU in so many other ways.
So will it be possible to exclude the EU countries and see how this works?
|
This only concerns EU-sellers, so you don't have to overcome anything, you
even don't have to understand it. Bricklink does have to understand it though.
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It was sent to me as email, so how can i be sure of that?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jul 16, 2021 13:55 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 107 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, kilovara writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, kilovara writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
I hope you not push too far, so this wonderful site suffers.
This looks to be a hinder to me, way too complicated to overcome this quick.
I dont have a clue about this, how it will affect me in Norway that are outside
the EU seen from private consume but taken over by EU in so many other ways.
So will it be possible to exclude the EU countries and see how this works?
|
This only concerns EU-sellers, so you don't have to overcome anything, you
even don't have to understand it. Bricklink does have to understand it though.
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It was sent to me as email, so how can i be sure of that?
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Communication by BrickLink is not very specific, causing all kinds of misunderstandings.
These changes concern EU countries, and Norway is not part of EU. You need not
register whatsoever.
Perhaps your local government or tax authorities or chamber of commerce have
information available about these changes, and how it works out for Norway.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | wolles | | Posted: | Aug 24, 2021 11:03 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 82 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, kilovara writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, kilovara writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
I hope you not push too far, so this wonderful site suffers.
This looks to be a hinder to me, way too complicated to overcome this quick.
I dont have a clue about this, how it will affect me in Norway that are outside
the EU seen from private consume but taken over by EU in so many other ways.
So will it be possible to exclude the EU countries and see how this works?
|
This only concerns EU-sellers, so you don't have to overcome anything, you
even don't have to understand it. Bricklink does have to understand it though.
|
It was sent to me as email, so how can i be sure of that?
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How can I be verified as a seller? I need to get Feedback or smh? And how whta
do I have to do?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | wolles | | Posted: | Aug 24, 2021 11:03 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 115 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, kilovara writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, kilovara writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
I hope you not push too far, so this wonderful site suffers.
This looks to be a hinder to me, way too complicated to overcome this quick.
I dont have a clue about this, how it will affect me in Norway that are outside
the EU seen from private consume but taken over by EU in so many other ways.
So will it be possible to exclude the EU countries and see how this works?
|
This only concerns EU-sellers, so you don't have to overcome anything, you
even don't have to understand it. Bricklink does have to understand it though.
|
It was sent to me as email, so how can i be sure of that?
|
How can I be verified as a seller? I need to get Feedback or smh? And how whta
do I have to do?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | TheLastStone | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2021 11:10 | | Subject: | VAT Nederland | | Viewed: | 104 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| Hoi allemaal,
ik ben al een tijdje actief op marktplaats en ook ingeschreven bij de kvk. Ik
maak geen gebruik van de KOR regeling.
Nu wil ik nieuwe lego gaan verkopen op bricklink en vroeg mij af hoe dat belastingtechnisch
nou precies werkt. Als ik het goed begrijp draag je de btw over de lego die je
verkoopt niet zelf af bij de belastingdienst maar doet bricklink dit?
Hoe toon ik dan aan dat ik de btw al afgedragen heb, krijg ik hiervan een bewijs
van bricklink of iets dergelijks?
Hoor graag
Groetjes, Glenn
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2021 11:53 | | Subject: | Re: VAT Nederland | | Viewed: | 119 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, TheLastStone writes:
| | Hoi allemaal,
ik ben al een tijdje actief op marktplaats en ook ingeschreven bij de kvk. Ik
maak geen gebruik van de KOR regeling.
Nu wil ik nieuwe lego gaan verkopen op bricklink en vroeg mij af hoe dat belastingtechnisch
nou precies werkt. Als ik het goed begrijp draag je de btw over de lego die je
verkoopt niet zelf af bij de belastingdienst maar doet bricklink dit?
Hoe toon ik dan aan dat ik de btw al afgedragen heb, krijg ik hiervan een bewijs
van bricklink of iets dergelijks?
Hoor graag
Groetjes, Glenn
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1. BrickLink doesn’t collect VAT in your stead.
BrickLink only collects VAT when an EU buyer buys from a non-EU seller
(and only under €150).
2. If you’re VAT-registered, BL offers a mechanism so that your prices are correctly
shown and invoiced with VAT for your EU buyers and without VAT for your non-EU
buyers. But the money always go into your account and you’ll need to declare
and remit the VAT to your government.
If you’re not VAT-registered, there’s nothing to do… except be aware if and when
you need to be VAT-registered.
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| | | | | | | Author: | charlesbrick28 | | Posted: | Jul 26, 2021 20:47 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| | | | | Author: | TiGa | | Posted: | Jul 19, 2021 04:10 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 167 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| Hello,
VAT number and OSS registration number is same (leastwise in my country), but
not equal. I am already registered in the OSS system, but not registered in the
EU VAT system with this automatically (because not neccessary based on EU VAT
rules).
So I have an OSS registration number - which is exactly the same format as the
EU VAT number - but this is not an EU VAT registration number. Maybe this occour
the problem for me:
I tried to provide my OSS registration number to the system (in the location
specified in the notification letter: My Store Settings - Management - Value
Added Tax section) but the system cannot verify it. I see that the system can
only check/accept the VAT number for the time being. When is this expected to
expand with OSS? Or where and when can I give my OSS registration number?
Does anyone else have a similar problem?
Sincerely,
TiGa
In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
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| | | | | Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2021 12:42 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 154 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| I just enabled VAT on BrickLink because I'm now required to. I have been
VAT registered for about 2 years and have been doing all previous sales in that
period with VAT.
But from what I can see, BrickLink will now consider 20% of my sales VAT (Danish
VAT percent is 25%, so 20% of the order total is VAT).
Due to sales of more than €10000 EU export in the past year, I have registered
for OSS. According to the Danish tax department, I should now use the customer's
local VAT percent on all orders, not the Danish, i.e. I should include 19% VAT
for German customers. I can't see anywhere that BrickLink supports this.
So how do I do this?
/Jan
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| | | | | | | Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2021 12:57 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 113 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, normann1974 writes:
| | I just enabled VAT on BrickLink because I'm now required to. I have been
VAT registered for about 2 years and have been doing all previous sales in that
period with VAT.
But from what I can see, BrickLink will now consider 20% of my sales VAT (Danish
VAT percent is 25%, so 20% of the order total is VAT).
Due to sales of more than €10000 EU export in the past year, I have registered
for OSS. According to the Danish tax department, I should now use the customer's
local VAT percent on all orders, not the Danish, i.e. I should include 19% VAT
for German customers. I can't see anywhere that BrickLink supports this.
So how do I do this?
/Jan
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Bricklink says they take care of this: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2517
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2021 13:45 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 119 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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Well that page details the rules that sellers must obey but now how they are
to do it. I can't tell BrickLink which type of VAT to use (buyer or seller
country). BL says in a note "*Supporting seller registration will be implemented
at a later date." Maybe that covers this issue, or maybe it has to do with something
different. I've tried visiting my store from a German IP address, and BL
still says that 25% VAT included, which is wrong.
So if BL hasn't implemented this yet, what do I do in the mean time?
/Jan
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2021 13:54 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 160 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, normann1974 writes:
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Well that page details the rules that sellers must obey but now how they are
to do it. I can't tell BrickLink which type of VAT to use (buyer or seller
country). BL says in a note "*Supporting seller registration will be implemented
at a later date." Maybe that covers this issue, or maybe it has to do with something
different. I've tried visiting my store from a German IP address, and BL
still says that 25% VAT included, which is wrong.
So if BL hasn't implemented this yet, what do I do in the mean time?
/Jan
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It's quite simple. It is your store, your business, your responsibility.
So... if BrickLink does not support your business correctly, don't use BrickLink.
Or sell in your own country only. That should not be a problem.
Arnoud
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Aug 10, 2021 17:20 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 126 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, normann1974 writes:
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Well that page details the rules that sellers must obey but now how they are
to do it. I can't tell BrickLink which type of VAT to use (buyer or seller
country). BL says in a note "*Supporting seller registration will be implemented
at a later date." Maybe that covers this issue, or maybe it has to do with something
different. I've tried visiting my store from a German IP address, and BL
still says that 25% VAT included, which is wrong.
So if BL hasn't implemented this yet, what do I do in the mean time?
/Jan
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I got this official answer from BrickLink: "The distance selling procedure for
BrickLink is still being implemented. The announcement regrading this and users'
further actions will be made at a later date."
So in other words, I must make a statement in my shop that the VAT information
shown by BrickLink is currently wrong.
/Jan
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