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| | Author: | StormChaser | Posted: | Jul 4, 2020 12:39 | Subject: | Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 203 times | Topic: | Catalog | Status: | Open | |
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| [P=30474]
[P=3048b]
[P=3046b]
[P=3037b]
[P=3684b]
We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.
Please share your thoughts.
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| | | | Author: | Pippysblocks | Posted: | Jul 4, 2020 12:41 | Subject: | Re: Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 37 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| It's a yes from me, can be tricky to list at times.
In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| [P=30474]
[P=3048b]
[P=3046b]
[P=3037b]
[P=3684b]
We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.
Please share your thoughts.
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| | | | Author: | Stuart9 | Posted: | Jul 4, 2020 12:42 | Subject: | Re: Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 34 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Not sure I've ever seen any that I would truly call smooth, not saying they
don't exist but it won't bother me if they are all under one listing.
In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| [P=30474]
[P=3048b]
[P=3046b]
[P=3037b]
[P=3684b]
We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.
Please share your thoughts.
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| | | | Author: | thecueshop | Posted: | Jul 4, 2020 12:48 | Subject: | Re: Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 37 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| I would say yes eliminate them.
What I've seen is a different texture because of worn injection molds.
In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| [P=30474]
[P=3048b]
[P=3046b]
[P=3037b]
[P=3684b]
We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.
Please share your thoughts.
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| | | | Author: | Turez | Posted: | Jul 4, 2020 13:08 | Subject: | Re: Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 43 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| [P=30474]
[P=3048b]
[P=3046b]
[P=3037b]
[P=3684b]
We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.
Please share your thoughts.
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I have often wondered why these slopes have separate entries for smooth parts.
I would say some have a rougher surface than others (and in general modern parts
tend to be less rough than parts from the 1980s or 1990s), but I have never
seen a part that is really smooth like
or
is.
I definitely like the idea to delete the "smooth" entries.
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| | | | Author: | edk | Posted: | Jul 4, 2020 13:23 | Subject: | Re: Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 42 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| [P=30474]
[P=3048b]
[P=3046b]
[P=3037b]
[P=3684b]
We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.
Please share your thoughts.
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I think that is a good idea since they just vary in texture due to die polishing
over time. A note stating such would be a good idea. The 2x2x2 does have an actual
smooth variation that I think should stay in the catalog.
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| | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | Posted: | Jul 4, 2020 13:28 | Subject: | Re: Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 47 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Thank you for all the responses so far. It seems we are all in agreement, which
is quite nice.
In Catalog, edk writes:
| The 2x2x2 does have an actual
smooth variation that I think should stay in the catalog.
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Which specific part are you referring to here?
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| | | | | | | | Author: | hpoort | Posted: | Jul 4, 2020 13:36 | Subject: | Re: Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 46 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| Thank you for all the responses so far. It seems we are all in agreement, which
is quite nice.
In Catalog, edk writes:
| The 2x2x2 does have an actual
smooth variation that I think should stay in the catalog.
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Which specific part are you referring to here?
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That must be versus
That's the only slope I can think of that is as smooth as a windscreen.
There might be smooth slopes around for the purpose of better applying stickers.
As for removing variants: I'd rather see Bricklink evolve towards a better
system of dealing with this, like I and many others have suggested so many times.
But still, the distinction between smooth and textured slope surfaces has never
seen true to me anyway.
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | Posted: | Jul 4, 2020 14:14 | Subject: | Re: Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 49 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, hpoort writes:
| That must be versus
That's the only slope I can think of that is as smooth as a windscreen.
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This part would not be affected anyway because it has a variant difference other
than the slope texture. However, the title of 3678a may be changed.
| As for removing variants: I'd rather see Bricklink evolve towards a better
system of dealing with this, like I and many others have suggested so many times.
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I am pushing hard for this. I believe a change in site programming in this area
would be significantly beneficial.
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | edk | Posted: | Jul 4, 2020 14:31 | Subject: | Re: Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 39 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, hpoort writes:
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| Thank you for all the responses so far. It seems we are all in agreement, which
is quite nice.
In Catalog, edk writes:
| The 2x2x2 does have an actual
smooth variation that I think should stay in the catalog.
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Which specific part are you referring to here?
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That must be versus
That's the only slope I can think of that is as smooth as a windscreen.
There might be smooth slopes around for the purpose of better applying stickers.
As for removing variants: I'd rather see Bricklink evolve towards a better
system of dealing with this, like I and many others have suggested so many times.
But still, the distinction between smooth and textured slope surfaces has never
seen true to me anyway.
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That's the one
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| | | | | | | | Author: | tEoS | Posted: | Jul 4, 2020 14:12 | Subject: | Re: Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 41 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| I thought the 2x2 concave came in a true smooth some years ago.
In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| Thank you for all the responses so far. It seems we are all in agreement, which
is quite nice.
In Catalog, edk writes:
| The 2x2x2 does have an actual
smooth variation that I think should stay in the catalog.
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Which specific part are you referring to here?
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| | | | Author: | uvt203 | Posted: | Jul 4, 2020 14:07 | Subject: | Re: Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 37 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| [P=30474]
[P=3048b]
[P=3046b]
[P=3037b]
[P=3684b]
We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.
Please share your thoughts.
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Yes please eliminate them. TLG has over the years had so many molding forms for
the different slopes all with different texture on the slope side ranging from
totally smooth to very ruff. It's a PITA with all these differences and it's
almost always a guess when you have a slope in your hands whether it is smooth
or not.
/Asger
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| | | | Author: | Brickitty | Posted: | Jul 4, 2020 16:08 | Subject: | Re: Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 44 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.
Please share your thoughts.
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Yes, please get rid of the entries for smooth slopes. They're the only entries
in the catalog that I heartily dislike, so much so that I've actually ranted
to my partner about how ridiculous it is to have the entries in the system (she
rolled her eyes and ignored me, but that's beside the point).
I'm launching a huge store in a few months (500,000 used parts), and I'm
fully separating every mold difference that Bricklink lists, plus a bunch that
aren't listed. I like to be precise. It's almost a compulsion. But despite
my desire to do that wherever possible, I decided a few months back that I wouldn't
list "smooth slopes" regardless of the entries for them, since I believe they
don't belong in the catalog. So eliminating those entries would be quite
nice for my desire for completeness and accuracy
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| | | | Author: | bricks2you | Posted: | Jul 5, 2020 12:59 | Subject: | Re: Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 44 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| I vote yes
In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| [P=30474]
[P=3048b]
[P=3046b]
[P=3037b]
[P=3684b]
We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.
Please share your thoughts.
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| | | | Author: | normann1974 | Posted: | Jul 5, 2020 19:55 | Subject: | Re: Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 44 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.
Please share your thoughts.
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I have my doubts if these actually exist, and if they do, that they are identified
correctly in current inventories. I have only ever seen one slope with a smooth
and shiny sloping surface, I believe it was a printed 2x2x2 slope used in a minifig.
All other slopes I've seen (thousands) either have old rough or modern smooth
texture. Some think that the change to texture is caused by worn molds. I believe
it was a design change by the company so that the sloping sides were better fit
for putting (and keeping) stickers on. Stickers on slopes have been used much
more in the later years than in the old days.
/Jan
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| | | | | | Author: | normann1974 | Posted: | Jul 5, 2020 19:59 | Subject: | Re: Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 30 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | I have my doubts if these actually exist, and if they do, that they are identified
correctly in current inventories. I have only ever seen one slope with a smooth
and shiny sloping surface, I believe it was a printed 2x2x2 slope used in a minifig.
All other slopes I've seen (thousands) either have old rough or modern smooth
texture. Some think that the change to texture is caused by worn molds. I believe
it was a design change by the company so that the sloping sides were better fit
for putting (and keeping) stickers on. Stickers on slopes have been used much
more in the later years than in the old days.
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In fact, the slope in question is . I just checked it again. It's
smooth and shiny. No sign of texture at all.
/Jan
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| | | | | | | | Author: | normann1974 | Posted: | Jul 5, 2020 20:08 | Subject: | Re: Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 47 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I have my doubts if these actually exist, and if they do, that they are identified
correctly in current inventories. I have only ever seen one slope with a smooth
and shiny sloping surface, I believe it was a printed 2x2x2 slope used in a minifig.
All other slopes I've seen (thousands) either have old rough or modern smooth
texture. Some think that the change to texture is caused by worn molds. I believe
it was a design change by the company so that the sloping sides were better fit
for putting (and keeping) stickers on. Stickers on slopes have been used much
more in the later years than in the old days.
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In fact, the slope in question is . I just checked it again. It's
smooth and shiny. No sign of texture at all.
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And of course, as someone else wrote: This slope without print also exists in
a smooth version (or it always comes as smooth, I'm not sure about that).
It was used for Trans-Clear windscreens on some old vehicles.
/Jan
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| | | | | | Author: | howdyhamster | Posted: | Jul 5, 2020 23:41 | Subject: | Re: Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 25 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.
Please share your thoughts.
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I have my doubts if these actually exist, and if they do, that they are identified
correctly in current inventories. I have only ever seen one slope with a smooth
and shiny sloping surface, I believe it was a printed 2x2x2 slope used in a minifig.
All other slopes I've seen (thousands) either have old rough or modern smooth
texture. Some think that the change to texture is caused by worn molds. I believe
it was a design change by the company so that the sloping sides were better fit
for putting (and keeping) stickers on. Stickers on slopes have been used much
more in the later years than in the old days.
/Jan
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The McDonald's 30474 slopes I have are definitely smooth with a printed pattern
over the smooth surface.
[P=30474pb03]
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| | | | | | | | Author: | Admin_Russell | Posted: | Jul 6, 2020 05:38 | Subject: | Re: Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 83 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, howdyhamster writes:
| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.
Please share your thoughts.
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I have my doubts if these actually exist, and if they do, that they are identified
correctly in current inventories. I have only ever seen one slope with a smooth
and shiny sloping surface, I believe it was a printed 2x2x2 slope used in a minifig.
All other slopes I've seen (thousands) either have old rough or modern smooth
texture. Some think that the change to texture is caused by worn molds. I believe
it was a design change by the company so that the sloping sides were better fit
for putting (and keeping) stickers on. Stickers on slopes have been used much
more in the later years than in the old days.
/Jan
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The McDonald's 30474 slopes I have are definitely smooth with a printed pattern
over the smooth surface.
[P=30474pb03]
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Yes, there is a whole set of those with very nice photos on BrickLink that show
the smoothness of the surface. But the question would be, does it make a difference
when buying and selling the parts in this set to have "smooth" in the item name,
or use a different root part number than the standard part?
I believe you when you say the surface is smooth, but have you found any of these
McDonald's slopes that had a rough surface?
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | howdyhamster | Posted: | Jul 6, 2020 05:51 | Subject: | Re: Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 43 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| In Catalog, howdyhamster writes:
| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.
Please share your thoughts.
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I have my doubts if these actually exist, and if they do, that they are identified
correctly in current inventories. I have only ever seen one slope with a smooth
and shiny sloping surface, I believe it was a printed 2x2x2 slope used in a minifig.
All other slopes I've seen (thousands) either have old rough or modern smooth
texture. Some think that the change to texture is caused by worn molds. I believe
it was a design change by the company so that the sloping sides were better fit
for putting (and keeping) stickers on. Stickers on slopes have been used much
more in the later years than in the old days.
/Jan
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The McDonald's 30474 slopes I have are definitely smooth with a printed pattern
over the smooth surface.
[P=30474pb03]
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Yes, there is a whole set of those with very nice photos on BrickLink that show
the smoothness of the surface. But the question would be, does it make a difference
when buying and selling the parts in this set to have "smooth" in the item name,
or use a different root part number than the standard part?
I believe you when you say the surface is smooth, but have you found any of these
McDonald's slopes that had a rough surface?
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You are correct that I haven't seen a rough one. Having recently organized
my collection, I would actually prefer for the catalog to be simplified a bit,
as some of the part differences were IMO pretty nitpicky. Was just pointing out
that those smooth parts exist.
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| | | | Author: | primadeluxe | Posted: | Jul 6, 2020 06:13 | Subject: | Re: Smooth Slopes | Viewed: | 48 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Also there are slopes which have a smooth variation which are not in the catalog,
like 3045. Besides that, where is the end? I could easely point out slopes with
'very rough' surface or allmost smooth. But I think a note should be
added for each slope with variation, because building sets from the 70's
with smooth slopes is not very nice. With a note a buyer can allways ask the
seller for a variation.
In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| [P=30474]
[P=3048b]
[P=3046b]
[P=3037b]
[P=3684b]
We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.
Please share your thoughts.
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