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| | | Author: | normann1974  | | Posted: | Jan 30, 2019 17:06 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Part 973pb0489c01 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Pearl Light Gray {48729 Bar 1L with Clip Mechanical Claw to 48729b Bar 1L with Clip Mechanical Claw, Cut Edges and Hole on Side}
Comments from Submitter:
The current picture doesn't correspond with the part type. The bar has a hole in the picture (part 48729b). So what's the correct thing to do? Change the inventory, change the picture, or allow both types by adding a note? I have not found evidence that warrant changing the picture or adding a note. In fact, I'm not even sure that part 48729 exists in PLG. Only a few sellers that claim to have it. I have never seen the part in PLG, not even in lots that contain this torso. Noone has been able to supply a photo of it either. But there is evidence of 48729b in this minifig. Unboxing can be found here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=3198401
I therefore request an inventory change. If this is approved, I think minifig agt016 should be changed also.
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| | | | | Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 30, 2019 17:07 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Part 973pb0489c01 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| Picture from unboxing.
/Jan
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| | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jan 30, 2019 20:02 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Part 973pb0489c01 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Pearl Light Gray {48729 Bar 1L with Clip Mechanical Claw to 48729b Bar 1L with Clip Mechanical Claw, Cut Edges and Hole on Side}
Comments from Submitter:
The current picture doesn't correspond with the part type. The bar has a hole in the picture (part 48729b). So what's the correct thing to do? Change the inventory, change the picture, or allow both types by adding a note? I have not found evidence that warrant changing the picture or adding a note. In fact, I'm not even sure that part 48729 exists in PLG. Only a few sellers that claim to have it. I have never seen the part in PLG, not even in lots that contain this torso. Noone has been able to supply a photo of it either. But there is evidence of 48729b in this minifig. Unboxing can be found here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=3198401
I therefore request an inventory change. If this is approved, I think minifig agt016 should be changed also.
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My minifig also has the newer style clip, so I have a feeling this part does
not exist in PLG in the older style.
Here is what I think happened. The torso above was added to the catalog in 2008,
and the member who supplied the image is the same person who submitted the torso
to the catalog. Therefore, I believe that the image for the torso is the original
image submitted with the torso. The newer style clip was not added to the catalog
until 2010, so this torso entry could not have had the newer style added to it
in 2008. Once the newer style clip was added to the catalog, no one ever went
back and adjusted this minifigure and the corresponding inventories.
I think this change is correct based on all of the evidence I have at my disposal.
Request accepted.
Cheers,
Randy
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| | | | | | | Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 30, 2019 20:19 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Part 973pb0489c01 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Pearl Light Gray {48729 Bar 1L with Clip Mechanical Claw to 48729b Bar 1L with Clip Mechanical Claw, Cut Edges and Hole on Side}
Comments from Submitter:
The current picture doesn't correspond with the part type. The bar has a hole in the picture (part 48729b). So what's the correct thing to do? Change the inventory, change the picture, or allow both types by adding a note? I have not found evidence that warrant changing the picture or adding a note. In fact, I'm not even sure that part 48729 exists in PLG. Only a few sellers that claim to have it. I have never seen the part in PLG, not even in lots that contain this torso. Noone has been able to supply a photo of it either. But there is evidence of 48729b in this minifig. Unboxing can be found here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=3198401
I therefore request an inventory change. If this is approved, I think minifig agt016 should be changed also.
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My minifig also has the newer style clip, so I have a feeling this part does
not exist in PLG in the older style.
Here is what I think happened. The torso above was added to the catalog in 2008,
and the member who supplied the image is the same person who submitted the torso
to the catalog. Therefore, I believe that the image for the torso is the original
image submitted with the torso. The newer style clip was not added to the catalog
until 2010, so this torso entry could not have had the newer style added to it
in 2008. Once the newer style clip was added to the catalog, no one ever went
back and adjusted this minifigure and the corresponding inventories.
I think this change is correct based on all of the evidence I have at my disposal.
Request accepted.
Cheers,
Randy
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I'm convinced that many sets from that period are not correct about the old
style clip in their inventories. In a large lot of sets I've found only few
parts with old style clips, but to make the sets complete according to BrickLink
inventories, I had to buy a lot of old style clips, because the new clip style
were not valid alternates, and I'm left with many extra new clip style parts
from the lot that I can't use. I believe this is the result of the old part
was never made "undetermined" like I've complained about for other parts
that I know result in wrong inventories but can't document because I don't
have sealed copies or sets that were never mixed with other bricks.
BTW - same issue arises for groove/no groove style cones in set 8630. The set
was in a large lot, but only one metallic silver cone WITH groove was found.
All pictures on Brickshelf show the cone with groove, but they don't show
any sealed bags, so I can't document that they're sealed sets and therefore
probably can't convince anyone to accept a change to change the cone or
allow the grooved variant as alternate. But my guess is that the set never came
with ungrooved variant like it's shown in the product image.
/Jan
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jan 30, 2019 21:06 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Part 973pb0489c01 | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | I'm convinced that many sets from that period are not correct about the old
style clip in their inventories.
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I am, too, but it takes time to search out all of the evidence.
| | BTW - same issue arises for groove/no groove style cones in set 8630. The set
was in a large lot, but only one metallic silver cone WITH groove was found.
All pictures on Brickshelf show the cone with groove, but they don't show
any sealed bags, so I can't document that they're sealed sets and therefore
probably can't convince anyone to accept a change to change the cone or
allow the grooved variant as alternate. But my guess is that the set never came
with ungrooved variant like it's shown in the product image.
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I can't find an image of one of those sets with the old style either, but
it does not mean it didn't ever come with one. I am almost tempted to buy
a sealed set to check it out...
Cheers,
Randy
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USA, Ohio