Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | StormChaser  | | Posted: | Mar 4, 2021 09:44 | | Subject: | Re: sh693 | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
| | Why not have the inventory of the figure include both heads?
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Because the inventory system doesn't support alternates for figure inventories.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 3, 2021 20:16 | | Subject: | Re: sh693 | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Mirko8710 writes:
| | according to instructions this minifigure was assembled wrong. It need to be
build with trans clear head instead of light nougat one.
[sh693]
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From Set 76175.
Hmmm, that's a tough one. The box front advertises Peter Parker (see attached
image). We could include the mannequin as the standard figure in the inventory,
but I think people will want the Peter Parker figure as advertised - so maybe
include s693 as an inventory alternate?
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 3, 2021 15:11 | | Subject: | Re: Please clarify similar torsos | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Kenopolis writes:
| | Could you please make a "this item is similar to" note to them?
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This is accomplished by requesting an item relationship addition with this convenient
and all-natural form:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogRelAdd.asp
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 3, 2021 15:05 | | Subject: | Re: TRUKAYAK | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | Even it was a TRU exclusive, there is no TRU branding on the instructions or
on the bag, it meets the Co-branding rules?
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https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1046
Co-branded items are items that have another brand name, logo, or trade dress
on the box, in the set contents, or in the set name.
Cheating? Maybe a little, but Toys "R" Us is in BrickLink's set name.
There are additional guidelines on that page that would tend to prohibit this
type of co-branding, but they've been loosely followed going way back:
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 3, 2021 10:14 | | Subject: | Re: TRUKAYAK | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Predatedcow writes:
| | Hey, I’m trying to list the 2015 Toys r Us TRUKAYAK kayak and I can’t find it
in the catalogue.
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Just added this for you. 
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 2, 2021 17:00 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two - UPDATE | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
| | All in my imagination of course, but this is just my perpetual frustration
speaking up.
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I'm happy to report that things have improved. CAs/IAs have a much better
working relationship with the site than existed in the past and at least some
hope of making progress on long-needed catalog/inventory improvements.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 2, 2021 11:07 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two - UPDATE | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | Is "Figure" the best keyword?
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No idea. We use "Minifigure" 8,567 times and "Figure" 1,843 times. There's
no standardization of the terms.
I suppose we could change them all to "Figure/Minifigure" to catch both types
of searches. That's only 10,410 catalog changes.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 2, 2021 10:20 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two - UPDATE | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In which case 'Slope, Minifigure' would be better?
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First you must consider how best to accomplish your goal. You want to tag all
the Slope 45 2 x 2 parts that are used as the bottom halves of figures with a
unique identifier to make them easier to locate.
Is the word "Minifigure" the most appropriate term to use here? It is already
used for 8,567 items in the catalog. I doubt anyone would use that word when
searching for these particular slopes, but I suppose they might?
The word "Legs" is used 5,679 times. Oddly, in combination ("Minifigure Legs")
we only find 42 uses. Regardless, it might be worth considering the best search
terms to use for your endeavor.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 2, 2021 10:01 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two - UPDATE | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | My request would simply be to put the word 'Minifigure' in front of the
word Slope
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This change would cause items in this list to sort improperly by title:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?catType=P&catString=33
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 2, 2021 09:48 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two - UPDATE | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | Does that mean I have to submit a separate request for each and every Sloped
Legs?
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Yes, it does mean that.
| | or can I just submit one part as an example of how they all need to be changed?
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Start with one request to show us what you have in mind. We'll contact you
if it can't be approved. If it is approved, you're cleared to request
updates to the rest of the items you'd like to change.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 2, 2021 09:24 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two - UPDATE | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | So, wait.. does that mean submenus are a planned feature to happen eventually?
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We have not been told that submenus for parts will happen. We have merely requested
them.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 2, 2021 09:22 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two - UPDATE | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | would it be possible to add the word 'Minifigure' within the description
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If you'd like to see titles of individual items changed, you may request
those with this form:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReq.asp
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 1, 2021 21:59 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two - UPDATE | | Viewed: | 96 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| END OF DISCUSSION
Okay, so the end of the discussion has arrived. I'll turn this list over
to management to review during March:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
There could be subtractions from the list during the next month, but there will
be no additions.
SHAPE-BASED DEFINITIONS
The good news is that there was progress on further defining shape-based categories:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1568
Shape-based categories now have images that more clearly define the category
(a great idea from jennnifer). Those images should mostly be good, but I still
need to update a couple of them to address unanticipated categorization issues.
THANK YOU!
Thank you to everyone who contributed to the discussion. You raised some issues
I hadn't considered. I know these changes are frustrating to some of you,
but with written definitions we hope to have a much more solid catalog moving
into the future. Thank all of you for your patience with us.
Of course, when the site gives us submenus for parts we'll be able to more
sharply separate items to make them easier to find.
UNADDRESSED ISSUES
There were still numerous unaddressed issues from both this discussion and the
one we had six months ago. For example, we'll be creating a Slope, Wedge
category, but won't be populating it yet.
To better address the abundance of category issues raised, I think instead of
doing things exactly the same way in October we'll just continuously work
on the next group between now and then. A month wasn't enough time for people
with full-time jobs elsewhere to address everything mentioned and compile the
list.
We have 915 items potentially moving this time (up from 540 items last October),
but we still didn't make it to these suggestions from the February, 2021
discussion:
randyf
Friends category
Stellar
Technic category
Watch parts to parts
speech bubbles
combining door and window frames
sports cleanup
Connection name standardization – can be accomplished with title changes for
right now
(but we did get your Bracket definition update completed)
infinibrix
body wear – not until we have parts submenus
decorated slopes used as legs - these should remain decorated slopes
firestar246
elbow bricks to Technic, Connector
hair vs. hair combo – need submenus first
The_RealRedHex
Animal body parts vs. animals – not this time, but needs to be addressed
Ber_i
Fabuland parts - not sure on these
Bar parts – lot of contention here, so no changes yet
WhiteVanMan
Friends accessories - similar to randyf's suggestion
yorbrick
Parts Duplo Minifigure Modified head - need submenus
figure movements/changes - would need to be part of a much larger project
par016
numerous suggestions from last time – still didn’t get to most of ‘em
leopard37
utensil and weapon categories – need submenus
DeLuca
cake frosting
Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Binoculars (Robot / Droid Head)
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2021 02:57 | | Subject: | Re: Duplo Mushroom | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, The_RealRedHex writes:
| | A while ago my change was rejected.
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It must have been over a month ago:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?nID=&viewDate=Y&viewType=E&viewStatus=2&itemType=P&viewAction=N
During that month we've had over 1,200 change requests:
https://www.bricklink.com/calendar.asp?m=0&v=Q
so I have no idea why your requests were not approved. We usually PM the reason
to the submitter when we can't approve a change request.
| | Anyone got an idea of why it was rejected
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Catalog administrators would typically be more able to answer this question than
the general membership of BrickLink. It would be appropriate to PM us with questions
such as these. In this case, of course, we don't know the answer because
of the length of time that passed between when the requests were not approved
and when you asked the question.
| | or should I request it again.
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We're usually willing to reconsider requests and you're welcome to resubmit
if you feel the requests were handled erroneously.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2021 09:39 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | What does base and thickness mean here?
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You bring up good points. There hasn't been a clear line drawn in the past
between what is a Brick, Modified vs. Plate, Modified. That line could be drawn
as follows:
1. Everything not as tall as a full brick is a modified plate.
2. Everything taller than one plate is a modified brick.
3. Everything between brick and plate goes in a separate in-between category.
The in-between items aren't actually bricks or plates. I went with
number 2 when writing category definitions rather than trying to create entirely
new categories for these items, but the same basic arguments could be made for
going with number 1 instead.
I'll attempt to modify the definitions (including possibly going with number
1 instead) to make a little more sense out of the whole thing.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2021 09:22 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | 1. For parts defined as Plate, Modified with at least one side of the base is
fully or partially tapered.
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| | With this proposal what I mean to accomplish is to have all wedged plates together,
as the wedge is a very visual difference and also the category Plate, Wedge is
much smaller than the Plate, Modified.
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Okay, I understand you now. This is a similar problem to the slope categories,
where the base is used to define the differences between Slope/Slope, Curved
and Slope, Wedge. I still have not quite figured this out yet, including what
it means for this part:
It's a curved slope, but the base is not square or rectangular. Therefore,
according to the current definitions it doesn't fit into any slope category.
As for wedge plates, if we allow attachments and bases taller than a single plate
in height it leads to more items being considered Plate, Wedge because of a general
wedge shape. That includes these modified plates, among others:
The current category definitions restrict the Wedge, Plate category to a strict
definition and leave the Plate, Modified category open to more bizarre and hard-to-categorize
parts. I felt this was the most appropriate approach for future category use
as well as making sense of things, staying with BrickLink tradition, and minimizing
disruption.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 24, 2021 13:13 | | Subject: | Re: Wheel? | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | The same is true for another train wheel holder and assembly:
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I think it would be helpful at some point to group parts designed for wheel attachments
together in one place. Perhaps Wheel, Holder or something of that sort.
They're all over the place right now (at least the following eight categories):
* | | bb0037 Train Brick 2 x 4 x 1 1/3 Sliding Block with Wheels Holder
Parts: Train |
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 24, 2021 12:53 | | Subject: | Re: Wheel? | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | Was searching my train department upside down for this part...
[38339]
But I see it is in "Wheel"... is this a mistake? Since, well, it clearly is not
a wheel
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Wheels and wheel assemblies are something of a mess, especially for titles.
We've been meaning to get them cleaned up, but . . .
Number 25 on this roadmap:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2476
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 07:23 | | Subject: | Re: 40450 Amelia Earhart - add to catalog?? | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, platinum_lego writes:
| | I was just wondering what the deal is with adding a new set to the catalog.
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https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 16, 2021 19:08 | | Subject: | Re: Adjusting Colour Names such as Bluish Grey? | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
| | Either way what is it about ‘old’ in the colour names that Bricklink doesn’t
like?
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Old is an undefined word, as is new. Old as relative to what? We've run
into problems in the past using old/new as descriptors and are definitely moving
away from using those two words. They are ultimately meaningless.
For example, if TLG deliberately changes the colors of grays again, we're
stuck renaming everything again. And to what? Old LBG, New LBG, and Even Newer
LBG?
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 16, 2021 03:31 | | Subject: | Re: Some sad news | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
| | A huge thank you from me for all that you, Hygrotus, have done and posted over
the years, you will certainly be missed regarding your contributions.
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Marek really brought a lot of value to BrickLink. I enjoyed working with him
and am going to miss that. 
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 11:23 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, leopard37 writes:
| | I propose sub categories to thin out the main categories.
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This is a good idea and we'd like to move toward it. The problem is that
the main categories list already numbers in the hundreds. We'd prefer to
have submenus before we do a bunch of additional splitting.
Please see this message for more information:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1168807
If you'd like to vote on it, see this message:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1169569
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 11:18 | | Subject: | Re: Why should I... | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | We apologize for this error on our part. The deletion was due to circumstances
beyond our control.
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Those are contradictory statements, but hopefully you get the general drift.
We didn't intentionally remove your pending submission, but we regret that
it happened nonetheless.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 11:16 | | Subject: | Re: Why should I... | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Bendix writes:
| | ...upload an item for the catalog - when it is deleted due to unknown reasons?
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We apologize for this error on our part. The deletion was due to circumstances
beyond our control. We typically try to notify submitters when a submission
cannot be approved.
You're welcome to resubmit this item with the image.
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