Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | Rick_S.  | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2020 16:53 | | Subject: | Re: Attack of the Blusers | | Viewed: | 78 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, BLUSER13161 writes:
| | In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | bluser numbers assigned already
but just happen to be known by our chosen usernames instead.
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Yes, your bluser number can be seen by going to your Account Info page. The
second bit of information there is titled User ID. That's your bluser number.
Someday in the distant future, when we're all dead, they'll eject us
from the system and make us blusers, too. Not too fond of the idea, as I'd
rather be remembered as StormChaser, not BLUSER_13161.
Doesn't matter what I want, though.
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I'm BLUSER 9140 
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2020 16:41 | | Subject: | Re: Lego AMA Should we +1 questions? | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Please do not "+1" or otherwise comment on the AMA questions. If you want to
ask a question that has already been asked, ask it again in your own words as
a reply to the original post.
Thank you!
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Okay thank you for confirming Russell
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| Author: | Minifig_Central | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2020 16:37 | | Subject: | Re: Lego AMA Should we +1 questions? | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Can you please reply to my post in relation to site performance issues? I'd
like to at least know they've been acknowledged/started to be worked on.
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2020 16:25 | | Subject: | Re: Lego AMA Should we +1 questions? | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
| | With regards to the below part of the announcement Lego says they will update
the FAQ with our ‘MOST’ top-of-mind questions does that mean those questions
that get asked the most will more likely get answered? and in which case if I
have the same question as what someone else has already asked should I just +1
it or would that cause more confusion?
I would assume that all the main questions will remain on the far left and easy
for Lego to spot in fact any staggered +1’s underneath it should actually indicate
to Lego that several people are showing an interest in the same question but
at the same time I don’t know if it’s a good idea or not? Only repeating the
same questions again would seem even more confusing? Any thoughts?
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As already been noted, people don’t read the FAQ before posting their questions.
Why do you believe they read all the previous questions? (Especially on a slooowwww
BL day, like this, er, month.)
But for some forum junkies, people just read the announcement and ask their question(s).
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Well the high number of views against each post and the number of subsequent
comments would suggest they are being read and whilst some people are repeating
certain stuff from the FAQ including myself to a certain degree I think its just
because people are looking for a litttle more elaboration on what's previously
been anounced.
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| Author: | Antarctica | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2020 15:59 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 1237-1 | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part Black {3704 Technic, Axle 2 to 32062 Technic, Axle 2 Notched}
Comments from Submitter:
The notches are visible in the instructions scan at https://lego.fandom.com/wiki/1237_Asimo_Robot?file=1237B.jpg in the left bottom.
The mold change was in 1996/1997, this is the only later set that has 3704 in its inventory.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2020 15:56 | | Subject: | Re: Lego AMA Should we +1 questions? | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
| | With regards to the below part of the announcement Lego says they will update
the FAQ with our ‘MOST’ top-of-mind questions does that mean those questions
that get asked the most will more likely get answered? and in which case if I
have the same question as what someone else has already asked should I just +1
it or would that cause more confusion?
I would assume that all the main questions will remain on the far left and easy
for Lego to spot in fact any staggered +1’s underneath it should actually indicate
to Lego that several people are showing an interest in the same question but
at the same time I don’t know if it’s a good idea or not? Only repeating the
same questions again would seem even more confusing? Any thoughts?
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As already been noted, people don’t read the FAQ before posting their questions.
Why do you believe they read all the previous questions? (Especially on a slooowwww
BL day, like this, er, month.)
But for some forum junkies, people just read the announcement and ask their question(s).
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2020 14:31 | | Subject: | Lego AMA Should we +1 questions? | | Viewed: | 156 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| With regards to the below part of the announcement Lego says they will update
the FAQ with our ‘MOST’ top-of-mind questions does that mean those questions
that get asked the most will more likely get answered? and in which case if I
have the same question as what someone else has already asked should I just +1
it or would that cause more confusion?
I would assume that all the main questions will remain on the far left and easy
for Lego to spot in fact any staggered +1’s underneath it should actually indicate
to Lego that several people are showing an interest in the same question but
at the same time I don’t know if it’s a good idea or not? Only repeating the
same questions again would seem even more confusing? Any thoughts?
“Please do add your questions in the thread below*. We will update the LEGO FAQ
on an ongoing basis with your most top-of-mind questions, until the closing of
the AMA on 31st January 2020 at 9AM EST.”
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| Author: | HayTanBricks | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2020 06:12 | | Subject: | Re: New Payment Method | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Yes a blank option would be great. While AfterPay or Zippay won’t integrate with
Market place platforms, a blank option will give us the availability to use an
alternative payment solution
In Suggestions, LaygoAdelaide writes:
| | Would it be possible to add another payment method.
Afterpay
Zip Pay
or at least have a blank one so that we can input our own custom method.
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| Author: | Classicsmiley | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2020 20:15 | | Subject: | Re: Piece 33492 | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, davebangertgmai writes:
| | I can't seem to find piece 33492.
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| Author: | bb1592198 | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2020 18:28 | | Subject: | Piece 33492 | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| | I can't seem to find piece 33492. |
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| Author: | bb1301425 | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2020 07:39 | | Subject: | Re: 2FA or some other additional login security | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | Please implement 2FA or some other additional login security to BrickLink account.
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Please don't. I've dealt with 2FA supporting medical and financial software
for years. It's a pain to set up, and the training curve with too many users
is a vertical wall. I've yet to see a 2FA provider who doesn't have outages
every few weeks, and your phone is NOT secure. For what is a retail operation,
over complicated processes and ticked off customers lead to less of a retail
operation. Add in the expense of doing this internationally, and you will see
a notable jump in what TLG has to skim off the top for fees. Not something that
any of us want.
Use paypal, tie it to your credit card. That will give you security for your
money. If you're worried about some getting in and messing with your inventory....
Don't invent things to be scared of.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2020 04:05 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 60258-1 | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 44302a Dark Bluish Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part Dark Bluish Gray 44302b Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End without Bottom Groove {match ID 0 to 1}
Comments from Submitter:
My set has 44302a
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| Author: | superca | | Posted: | Jan 26, 2020 20:48 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 8108-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 47757pb15 Black Wedge 4 x 4 Pyramid Center with Yellow Circle and Silver Robot Head Facing Back Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8105 (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
This decorated wedge is missing from the inventory and is shown in the instructions (page 31 of book 2) to this set plus the sticker is part of this sets sticker sheet.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 26, 2020 12:33 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
| | I can't help myself from returning to this topic.
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But I'll try to make this post the last thing I say about it. In a recent
response to a different post:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1176109
Russell said:
"Many historic accounts, such as major contributors or Dan's own personal
account were intentionally untouched by the process."
So this means that someone at BrickLink made a determination based on subjective
criteria about who would be erased and who wouldn't.
All I'm saying is that an objective standard should have been (and still
could be) used: if a member ever contributed to the catalog/inventories, then
they should not be turned into a number.
Erasing contributor usernames is a breach of the promises made here (and in other
places):
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2472
And beyond that, it is simply disrespectful.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 26, 2020 08:51 | | Subject: | Re: 2FA or some other additional login security | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mfav writes:
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| Author: | jonwil | | Posted: | Jan 26, 2020 08:07 | | Subject: | Re: 2FA or some other additional login security | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I support the idea of proper 2FA. Messages to a phone or mobile device (via SMS
or otherwise) is not proper 2FA. Supporting the U2F standard would be perfect
IMO, its designed to be a 2FA solution that avoids all the problems of using
phones as a 2FA solution. And its open and well documented (and AFAIK designed
to be easy for sites to implement)
It can (if implement correctly) even help stop phishing attacks (where someone
creates a fake web page designed to make you think its the real page and then
uses that fake page to steal login information or otherwise do nefarious things)
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| Author: | HillbillyBricks | | Posted: | Jan 26, 2020 04:37 | | Subject: | Re: Ability to identify parts for a specific set | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Suggestions, HillbillyBricks writes:
| | How can you get a list of parts that you have in your inventory for a specific
set.
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On your My Inventory page in the extra options Search My Inventory you can enter
a set number.
| | In the price guide it will tell you how many parts you have in inventory
for a set. I want to know what those parts are.
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Check the option Show Items in My Inventory to see if you've got the items
in your inventory on the Catalog page:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogOptions.asp?viewFrom=P
Thank you. I'm lost. I do not see an option that works.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 26, 2020 03:07 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1676-1 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, 13161 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 4130 Red Door Frame 2 x 4 x 5
* Delete 1 Part 4132 Red Window 2 x 4 x 3 Frame
* Delete 1 Part 4131 White Door 1 x 4 x 5
* Delete 1 Part 4133 White Window 2 x 4 x 3 Pane
* Add 1 Part 4130c02 Red Door Frame 2 x 4 x 5 with White Door 1 x 4 x 5 (4130 / 4131)
* Add 1 Part 4132c04 Red Window 2 x 4 x 3 Frame with White Window 2 x 4 x 3 Pane (4132 / 4133)
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 26, 2020 03:06 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 1676-1 | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 4130 Red Door Frame 2 x 4 x 5
* Delete 1 Part 4132 Red Window 2 x 4 x 3 Frame
* Delete 1 Part 4131 White Door 1 x 4 x 5
* Delete 1 Part 4133 White Window 2 x 4 x 3 Pane
* Add 1 Part 4130c02 Red Door Frame 2 x 4 x 5 with White Door 1 x 4 x 5 (4130 / 4131)
* Add 1 Part 4132c04 Red Window 2 x 4 x 3 Frame with White Window 2 x 4 x 3 Pane (4132 / 4133)
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 26, 2020 00:37 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In General, randyf writes:
| | In General, qwertyboy writes:
| | Who is up for a round of Azul, Splendor, or Wingspan?
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Man, I love me a good game of Splendor! Such an awesome game. My wife and I play
it all the time, along with our other favorites: Catan, Carcassonne, and Pandemic.
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Catan is very frustrating for me. The game usually ends very abruptly. Now
and then it is obvious a turn away, but in those case there is usually nothing
to be done. It is often difficult to even tell who is winning until it happens
and suddenly all of my plans are for nothing.
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| Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Jan 26, 2020 00:25 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In General, randyf writes:
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I will definitely be looking into Azul and Wingspan. We are always looking for
other great games to add to our pool to choose from. Thanks for the suggestions!
Cheers,
Randy
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Another vote here for Azul and Wingspan. We also play a lot of Scythe, Terraforming
Mars, and Tapestry recently.
Carcassone, Agricola, and Belfort are my all time favorites. I can't play
Catan... dice don't like me.
 Jen
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| Author: | WilliamRaine | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 22:39 | | Subject: | Re: Question about flags (parts 4495a and 4495b) | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Turez writes:
| | In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
| | In Inventories, BLUSER13161 writes:
| | In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
| | I am replacing a few parts on set 7038-1 Troll Assault Wagon and noticed the
two flags included are listed as different variants....the dark blue is lefted
as "wave left" and the pearl gold as "wave right"
My set has the opposite style flags, and the instructions clearly show both flags
as the "wave left" variant.
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If you scroll all the way to the bottom of the inventory page:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=7038-1
you will see the following sentence:
View a log of completed changes made to this inventory.
Clicking there will display the history of changes made to this set's inventory.
| | Is this a mistake in the inventory, or did the set
really come with both flags pointing in different directions?
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According to BrickLink's timeline the flag change happened roughly around
2008, which is the year this set was released. So it's quite possible that
some 7038-1 sets came with left flags, some came with right flags, and some came
with both.
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I see, I see. Thank you for the information. Since the flag change happened that
year, would it be correct to submit a change request for the flags and list the
"wave left" variant as the regular part since it appears that way in the instructions
and part list, and the "wave right" variant as an alternate item, do you think?
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The inventory should indeed include the "a" type as regular part and the "b"
type as alternate part for both colors. I have submitted the change requests:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=262880&nID=1176544
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Thank you for doing that!
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 21:26 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In General, qwertyboy writes:
| | In General, randyf writes:
| | In General, qwertyboy writes:
| | Who is up for a round of Azul, Splendor, or Wingspan?
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Man, I love me a good game of Splendor! Such an awesome game. My wife and I play
it all the time, along with our other favorites: Catan, Carcassonne, and Pandemic.
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Yah, Splendor is awesome. I love the "compactness" of the game, both in the amount
of "game parts" and in playing time. Azul is similarly compact, and also very
addictive.
We play Carcassonne with a friend. We are working through all the (official)
expansions (minus "The Catapult" - that one just doesn't fit). Haven't
played Catan for quite a while, never played Pandemic. If you haven't tried
Wingspan, give it a go. It is one of the most beautiful games out there.
Game on!
Niek.
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I will definitely be looking into Azul and Wingspan. We are always looking for
other great games to add to our pool to choose from. Thanks for the suggestions!
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | JerseyGirl689 | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 21:24 | | Subject: | Re: goatleg | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Andrsv writes:
| | In Catalog, Adjour writes:
| | In Catalog, mfav writes:
| | In Catalog, spattersonlego writes:
| | Who is willing to start a search site to replace goatleg?
I'm sure people would be willing to pay a small fee to use it. I would.
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What's it worth to you?
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I'd pay $5-10 for a months access. Personally.
I don't use it too often, but when I do, I need it a lot all at once. So
I'd rather not have to sign up for a whole year.
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I've hosted it here temporary:
https://avbricks.s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/web/index.html
I just ordered a proper domain, so it'll move soon.
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Thank you so much! I used it quite a bit, a great time saver. 😉
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I think the costs for running this will be less than €20 pr year I'll
serve it for free for you guys, enjoy
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| Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 21:13 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In General, randyf writes:
| | In General, qwertyboy writes:
| | Who is up for a round of Azul, Splendor, or Wingspan?
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Man, I love me a good game of Splendor! Such an awesome game. My wife and I play
it all the time, along with our other favorites: Catan, Carcassonne, and Pandemic.
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Yah, Splendor is awesome. I love the "compactness" of the game, both in the amount
of "game parts" and in playing time. Azul is similarly compact, and also very
addictive.
We play Carcassonne with a friend. We are working through all the (official)
expansions (minus "The Catapult" - that one just doesn't fit). Haven't
played Catan for quite a while, never played Pandemic. If you haven't tried
Wingspan, give it a go. It is one of the most beautiful games out there.
Game on!
Niek.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 20:56 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7038-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
As long as you are sure that the photos were never mirrored in an image program
before being uploaded.
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Yes, this is a risk with these parts. But fortunately I made sure that they are
not mirrored.
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So did I.
Unfortunately, I can't do anything more than that.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 20:37 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In General, qwertyboy writes:
| | Who is up for a round of Azul, Splendor, or Wingspan?
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Man, I love me a good game of Splendor! Such an awesome game. My wife and I play
it all the time, along with our other favorites: Catan, Carcassonne, and Pandemic.
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| Author: | CALBrickLAB | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 20:21 | | Subject: | USPS postage zones | | Viewed: | 148 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| As I go through updating my postage for the USPS rate increase in effect on Monday,
I'm reminded that we still don't have the ability to use zone pricing
based on zip codes for shipping. We all use the same zone groupings, so we would
just need a chart set up like we do for international shipping, but with the
9 zone fields. I end up overcharging and giving refunds if the amount is excessive.
Thanks,
Romy
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| Author: | mfav | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 20:14 | | Subject: | Re: goatleg | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | Your first version of goatleg you did, the black torso, blue arms returns 19
results.
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That is correct. It's a bad result set. It is returning blue arms, sand blue
arms, medium blue arms, etc. Not just blue arms.
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| Author: | pitz8008 | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 20:12 | | Subject: | Re: goatleg | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, mfav writes:
| | In Catalog, Andrsv writes:
| | I'd love to get some feedback.
- Please let me know if I introduced any bugs, and I'll fix them
- Any suggestions of important changes you want, please let me know and I'll
consider them.
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My first take.
Took a long time to load for me. I don't necessarily attribute that to whatever
code you have going on, but just saying.
Search for Yellow Head, Any Stud Type, keyword: scar. Returns zero results.
I believe this should return 38 results.
I believe this to be at least in part a flaw in original goatleg code.
Search for Black Torso, Blue Arms, no hand color selected. Returns zero results.
I believe this should return 8 results.
I believe this to be at least in part a flaw in original goatleg code.
With yellow hands also selected, returns 3 results. I believe this to be correct.
It appears that for any search all dropdown options must have an active selection
to function. I would suggest this is not the optimal solution as sometimes arms
or hands may be swapped on a torso. Also if you want to find all heads with glasses
irrespective of what stud type something has...then I don't think three searches
should be required to achieve that.
At narrow screen widths the wrap is malformed or something...button gets cut
off. Screen Grab attached.
Would be nice if the layout better adjusted to a narrow (phone) layout.
Good start, though.
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Your first version of goatleg you did, the black torso, blue arms returns 19
results.
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| Author: | mfav | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 20:05 | | Subject: | Re: goatleg | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Andrsv writes:
| | I'd love to get some feedback.
- Please let me know if I introduced any bugs, and I'll fix them
- Any suggestions of important changes you want, please let me know and I'll
consider them.
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My first take.
Took a long time to load for me. I don't necessarily attribute that to whatever
code you have going on, but just saying.
Search for Yellow Head, Any Stud Type, keyword: scar. Returns zero results.
I believe this should return 38 results.
I believe this to be at least in part a flaw in original goatleg code.
Search for Black Torso, Blue Arms, no hand color selected. Returns zero results.
I believe this should return 8 results.
I believe this to be at least in part a flaw in original goatleg code.
With yellow hands also selected, returns 3 results. I believe this to be correct.
It appears that for any search all dropdown options must have an active selection
to function. I would suggest this is not the optimal solution as sometimes arms
or hands may be swapped on a torso. Also if you want to find all heads with glasses
irrespective of what stud type something has...then I don't think three searches
should be required to achieve that.
At narrow screen widths the wrap is malformed or something...button gets cut
off. Screen Grab attached.
Would be nice if the layout better adjusted to a narrow (phone) layout.
Good start, though.
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| Author: | pitz8008 | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 19:49 | | Subject: | Re: goatleg | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Andrsv writes:
| | In Catalog, spattersonlego writes:
| | Who is willing to start a search site to replace goatleg?
I'm sure people would be willing to pay a small fee to use it. I would.
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I spent some time rewriting goatleg so that it will be easier to update and maintain.
Functionally should still be the same.
I'd love to get some feedback.
- Please let me know if I introduced any bugs, and I'll fix them
- Any suggestions of important changes you want, please let me know and I'll
consider them.
Here's the new version:
http://avbricks.no/#/avSearch
And the old version
http://avbricks.no/goatleg/
Thanks to 62 bricks for sharing
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I actually like your older version better but great job either way. But what
you have to figure out how to do is is to get it to stay at the top of the bricklink
page after you start your initial search so we don't have to go back and
forth to different boxes after each search.
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| Author: | SurplusParts | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 19:39 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 10243-1 | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 7 Part 15712 White Tile, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip - Rounded Edges (Alternate)
* Add 4 Part 44567a Light Bluish Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on Side with Bottom Groove (Alternate)
Comments from Submitter:
These 2 alternate parts were found in 2 sealed sets.
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| Author: | Andrsv | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 19:30 | | Subject: | Re: goatleg | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, spattersonlego writes:
| | Who is willing to start a search site to replace goatleg?
I'm sure people would be willing to pay a small fee to use it. I would.
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I spent some time rewriting goatleg so that it will be easier to update and maintain.
Functionally should still be the same.
I'd love to get some feedback.
- Please let me know if I introduced any bugs, and I'll fix them
- Any suggestions of important changes you want, please let me know and I'll
consider them.
Here's the new version:
http://avbricks.no/#/avSearch
And the old version
http://avbricks.no/goatleg/
Thanks to 62 bricks for sharing
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| Author: | Andrsv | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 19:10 | | Subject: | Re: Black hose is dark gray | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, yapke writes:
| | Hello
I'm guessing that 3 of those hoses are old hoses from old lego technic set(s).
The black hoses weren't that black at that time (1985-1990).
You could compare it with the hoses from the lego technic set 8862 (yellow backhoe),
a set which I'm currently in full process with (cleaning parts and rebuidling
to have pics for showing quality) before selling on BL
Greetings, Yapke
In Colors, Andrsv writes:
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Thanks
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| Author: | WilliamRaine | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 19:07 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 9463-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 3 Part 3794 Dark Red Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) (match ID 2)
* Delete 1 Part 3794 Light Bluish Gray Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) (match ID 3)
* Add 1 Part 3794a Light Bluish Gray Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper) (match ID 3)
* Change 3 Part Dark Red 3794b Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud with Groove (Jumper) {Alternate to Regular}
Comments from Submitter:
Source: Sealed Set Contents, cleaning up undetermined types.
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| Author: | WilliamRaine | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 18:57 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 4183-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 8 Part 2453 Dark Bluish Gray Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Undetermined Stud Type (match ID 1)
* Add 8 Part 2453a Dark Bluish Gray Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Blocked Open Stud or Hollow Stud (match ID 1)
* Delete 2 Part 3794 Reddish Brown Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) (match ID 2)
* Add 2 Part 3794a Reddish Brown Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper) (match ID 2)
Comments from Submitter:
Source: Sealed Set Contents, cleaning up undetermined types
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| Author: | yapke | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 18:56 | | Subject: | Re: Black hose is dark gray | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| LOL
In Colors, jblock writes:
| | In Colors, Andrsv writes:
At least Batman can still use all of them...he only works with black and very
dark gray...
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| Author: | jblock | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 18:53 | | Subject: | Re: Black hose is dark gray | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Andrsv writes:
At least Batman can still use all of them...he only works with black and very
dark gray...
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| Author: | WilliamRaine | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 18:23 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 4181-1 | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 2 Part 3684 Dark Bluish Gray Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 - Undetermined Stud Type (match ID 6)
* Add 2 Part 3684a Dark Bluish Gray Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 - Hollow Studs (match ID 6)
* Delete 2 Part 3794 Pearl Gold Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) (match ID 5)
* Add 2 Part 3794a Pearl Gold Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper) (match ID 5)
* Add 1 Part 3626cpb0558 Light Flesh Minifigure, Head PotC Hector Barbossa Ragged Brown Beard Pattern - Hollow Stud (Alternate)
Comments from Submitter:
Source: Sealed Set Contents, fixing up undetermined parts
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| Author: | yapke | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 17:15 | | Subject: | Re: Black hose is dark gray | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| Hello
I'm guessing that 3 of those hoses are old hoses from old lego technic set(s).
The black hoses weren't that black at that time (1985-1990).
You could compare it with the hoses from the lego technic set 8862 (yellow backhoe),
a set which I'm currently in full process with (cleaning parts and rebuidling
to have pics for showing quality) before selling on BL
Greetings, Yapke
In Colors, Andrsv writes:
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| Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 16:53 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
| | So: there is a somewhat recent trend in society of erasing people from history.
A number of different reasons are used to justify this. In this instance, privacy
appears to have been the reason. Obviously I disagree with that trend.
|
Agree 100%.
| | It amazes me that I'm putting so much effort into explaining the effects
of erasing history. I think I may know the reason: nearly everyone alive today
grew up in cultures where everything is disposable. It is a logical extension
to see humans in the same way. I'm arguing against that way of looking at
the past. I'm arguing for treating people with the respect they deserve
and keeping promises. I'm arguing against erasure.
|
I am hesitant to agree with this train of thought, but only because it makes
me sad, and I try to keep seeing the positive in the current generation. Then
again "things" happen where I see people who just don't seem to care, and
I tend to gravitate towards this darker view.
I guess what I am saying is I try to hope for the best, but fear the worst.
Oh well, enough of all this, please forget this old man's ramblings. It is
almost beer o'clock, and time for a couple of board games. Who is up for
a round of Azul, Splendor, or Wingspan?
Niek.
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| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 16:39 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7038-1 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
As long as you are sure that the photos were never mirrored in an image program
before being uploaded.
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Yes, this is a risk with these parts. But fortunately I made sure that they are
not mirrored.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 14:52 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7038-1 | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
As long as you are sure that the photos were never mirrored in an image program
before being uploaded.
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| Author: | tomaso | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 14:34 | | Subject: | miss 64391+sticker | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| hello i would like to insert some part lego, but they doesn't for example
64683+sticker( set 42058) set 60122 : 52031 lime +sticker.
how should I do?
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| Author: | mfav | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 14:07 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
| | Forgot to mention: I would like to be identified only by a completely random
number in future comic strips and not by a cleverly brick-built LEGO tornado.
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Ok. After tomorrow.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 14:02 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In General, mfav writes:
| | Now go ahead and point out where I'm wrong, and I'll make another comic
strip
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Forgot to mention: I would like to be identified only by a completely random
number in future comic strips and not by a cleverly brick-built LEGO tornado.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 13:57 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In General, mfav writes:
| | You know, sometimes you seem to misinterpret the stuff I put in the comics as
a personal point of view. That is not the case.
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Perhaps. And I shouldn't. I apologize.
| | If you want my personal point of view, it is that it is the individual in question
who should decide whether or not their feces is public. Not you. Not I.
|
I agree. But I will qualify that by saying that once you make some contribution
to the world, you may have to trade a little privacy for that. And BrickLink
has made no secret of the fact that contributions are credited to users. Everyone
should know the deal going in when they choose to contribute.
There is such a thing as later changing your mind and asking to be removed from
public/private records, but I don't believe that these contributors did so.
| | Bricklink in this instance is presumably attempting to meet compliance with these
new privacy laws.
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Maybe. This is the general consensus. I think it was more of a case of a poorly-researched
law and an over-reaction.
| | The law is the law and the affected bodies must be in compliance or in violation.
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Yes, but companies and individuals have the ability to challenge unjust laws.
Some have.
| | Now go ahead and point out where I'm wrong, and I'll make another comic
strip
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It is good to have a plan and it seems like we have one.
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| Author: | mfav | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 13:30 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
| | mfav makes the point that these contributors didn't contribute much and it
was a long time ago. He's saying that it therefore doesn't matter how
we treat them.
|
You know, sometimes you seem to misinterpret the stuff I put in the comics as
a personal point of view. That is not the case. The comics stuff is made to be
funny...well hopefully funny...not to be anything else.
If you want my personal point of view, it is that it is the individual in question
who should decide whether or not their sh*t is public. Not you. Not I.
Bricklink in this instance is presumably attempting to meet compliance with these
new privacy laws. I'm not debating the efficacy of the laws, or the aesthetics,
or morality or anything else, because it's irrelevant. The law is the law
and the affected bodies must be in compliance or in violation.
Given that there are a number of users X whom, presumably Bricklink cannot contact
to affirm their willingness to allow their sh*t to be displayed on the site,
BL likely doesn't have a choice but to anonymize them. Well, they have the
choice to be in violation of the law, but I assume that isn't the choice
that has been made.
Melville and Shakespeare are long dead. You can't cyberpunk them and steal
their identities. The cases with the anonymized users are likely unknown.
I don't necessarily disagree with your general sentiments. But your sentiments
are not the law. BL doesn't have to disagree with your sentiments either,
but not being in compliance with the law is a whole different deal.
Apples and oranges.
Now go ahead and point out where I'm wrong, and I'll make another comic
strip, and tomorrow will be another day.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 13:27 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
| | So: there is a somewhat recent trend in society of erasing people from history.
A number of different reasons are used to justify this. In this instance, privacy
appears to have been the reason.
|
Correction: perhaps the trend is not so recent. There was another time and place
in history when people were reduced to numbers by those in power.
Should I bring that up? No.
Is it in any way comparable to what BrickLink has done? No, there is no comparison.
I only mention it to illustrate the thought process that goes into disrespecting
people enough to reduce them to anonymous numbers.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 13:04 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
| | A username is not (and correct me if I'm wrong) PII.
|
Correction: it is PII of an extremely limited sort, but not the kind intended
to be protected by law so far as I'm aware.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 12:57 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In General, Legolibrarian2 writes:
| | This may be in response to a new law that took effect in California this month.
It has to do with personal information in an online environment. BL headquarters
is in California, so I guess they have to abide by the law.
|
No, from what I can tell by reading a summary of that law it would not be applicable
in this situation.
The following is not directed to you, but to several readers who really don't
seem to get it. I understand getting it and disagreeing, but some people really
aren't getting it.
So: there is a somewhat recent trend in society of erasing people from history.
A number of different reasons are used to justify this. In this instance, privacy
appears to have been the reason. Obviously I disagree with that trend.
BrickLink assigns each person a unique identifying number upon sign-up. This
is necessary for their database of members. Now it has reduced certain users
to that number, even though the vast majority (probably all) of them did not
request it.
I will present a couple of situations that may be somewhat analogous depending
on perspective.
Imagine a graveyard where the company that owns the graveyard has assigned each
gravesite a number. One day the company goes through and erases the name from
every headstone (or most of them) and replaces those names with the numbers they
have assigned to the plots. The reasons why they did so are irrelevant - it
should be obvious that this is not a wise decision on the part of the company.
Here's another: imagine that someone comes up with a numbering system for
authors and assigns every author throughout history a unique identifying number.
Then, one day, they have the power and ability to replace each author's
name with a number in all records kept by humans. So they do it.
And then we have Hamlet by Author_291763. Moby Dick by Author_9182772. 1984
by Author_3177634. I could continue, of course.
mfav makes the point that these contributors didn't contribute much and it
was a long time ago. He's saying that it therefore doesn't matter how
we treat them. Using the analogy above, then, if an author hasn't contributed
much to the collective human store of literature, then it's okay to erase
them. But Shakespeare, much as he desired anonymity, won't get it because
he contributed too much.
Of course, the logical response is that catalog contributions are not works of
art. That is fair, but they are still effort someone put forth with the understanding
and promise that they would receive perpetual credit for the volunteer work they
did. BrickLink has broken that promise and there is no way to justify that.
A username is not (and correct me if I'm wrong) PII.
It amazes me that I'm putting so much effort into explaining the effects
of erasing history. I think I may know the reason: nearly everyone alive today
grew up in cultures where everything is disposable. It is a logical extension
to see humans in the same way. I'm arguing against that way of looking at
the past. I'm arguing for treating people with the respect they deserve
and keeping promises. I'm arguing against erasure.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 12:07 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 75022-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, teraith writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 64802 Dark Bluish Gray Minifigure, Jet Pack with Nozzles
Comments from Submitter:
The deathwatch command have them as per the instructions.
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Those items are already included in the inventory of the set. They exist in
the sub-inventories of these figures:
If you click on the Break Minifigs link at the top of the inventory page
the jet packs will be shown in the complete inventory.
The packs, by the way, are pearl dark gray, not dark bluish gray.
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| Author: | MocFodder | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 10:54 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 75022-1 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 64802 Dark Bluish Gray Minifigure, Jet Pack with Nozzles
Comments from Submitter:
The deathwatch command have them as per the instructions.
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| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 10:19 | | Subject: | Re: Question about flags (parts 4495a and 4495b) | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
| | In Inventories, BLUSER13161 writes:
| | In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
| | I am replacing a few parts on set 7038-1 Troll Assault Wagon and noticed the
two flags included are listed as different variants....the dark blue is lefted
as "wave left" and the pearl gold as "wave right"
My set has the opposite style flags, and the instructions clearly show both flags
as the "wave left" variant.
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If you scroll all the way to the bottom of the inventory page:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=7038-1
you will see the following sentence:
View a log of completed changes made to this inventory.
Clicking there will display the history of changes made to this set's inventory.
| | Is this a mistake in the inventory, or did the set
really come with both flags pointing in different directions?
|
According to BrickLink's timeline the flag change happened roughly around
2008, which is the year this set was released. So it's quite possible that
some 7038-1 sets came with left flags, some came with right flags, and some came
with both.
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I see, I see. Thank you for the information. Since the flag change happened that
year, would it be correct to submit a change request for the flags and list the
"wave left" variant as the regular part since it appears that way in the instructions
and part list, and the "wave right" variant as an alternate item, do you think?
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The inventory should indeed include the "a" type as regular part and the "b"
type as alternate part for both colors. I have submitted the change requests:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=262880&nID=1176544
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| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 10:19 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7038-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
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| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 10:18 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7038-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 4495a Dark Blue Flag 4 x 1 Wave Left (match ID 3)
* Add 1 Part 4495b Pearl Gold Flag 4 x 1 Wave Right (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change 1 Part Dark Blue 4495b Flag 4 x 1 Wave Right {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 3}
* Change 1 Part Pearl Gold 4495a Flag 4 x 1 Wave Left {match ID 0 to 4}
Comments from Submitter:
Unboxing and building at http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=304273 and at http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=315253
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| Author: | saosivert | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 05:05 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 70602-1 | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part {Trans-Light Blue to Trans-Dark Blue} 57906pb014 Hinge Plate 3 x 12 with Angled Side Extensions and Tapered Ends with Lightning Pattern Type 1 (Sticker) - Set 70602 (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
Part is Trans-Dark Blue instead of Trans-Light Blue
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 03:31 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 70731-1 | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Minifig njo184s Jay (Deepstone Armor) - Possession, Lightning Pack with Yellow Danger Stripes and Gold Lightning Reactor Pattern (Sticker) (Counterpart)
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2020 00:26 | | Subject: | Re: Duplicate | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Mrco writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, BricksThatStick writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Mrco writes:
| | Please delete duplicate
* | | 65072pb02 Minifigure, Headgear Ninjago Wrap Type 6 with Molded White Mask and Printed Medium Azure Ninjago Logogram Letter L on Black Background Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear |
This is the same
* | | 65072pb01 Minifigure, Headgear Ninjago Wrap Type 6 with Molded White Mask and Printed Medium Azure Ninjago Logogram Letter J on Black Background Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear |
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The symbols are different.
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Wow, did not noticed that. Maybe someone could tell do they mean something..
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I have the impression that Ninjago symbols are made up intended to look like
an Asian language, but if I am wrong I would like to know.
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| Author: | Mrco | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 22:35 | | Subject: | Re: Duplicate | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, cycbuild writes:
| | I salute your profile pic!
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| Author: | Legolibrarian2 | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 21:56 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 89 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
| | I can't help myself from returning to this topic.
It is not right to erase people who have contributed to the catalog and turn
them into a meaningless number (and a username that rhymes with "loser.").
The first attached image shows people who have contributed a set inventory to
the catalog. For each person it was only one inventory, but it was time they
took out of their day or week to make a contribution.
The second image shows people who have added items to the catalog. One person
added 113 items. Another added 97 items. Yet another added 87 items. And so
on down the list.
Some of these unregistered users are no doubt dead. Some have moved on to new
pursuits. Some may be in a coma or in prison. Who knows why any one person
hasn't logged on or may never log on again?
BrickLink wants contributions. BrickLink wants an involved community. But when
BrickLink treats former contributors so dismissively, by erasing them into meaninglessness,
it makes me think they have no respect for contributors.
BrickLink contributors deserve better treatment than this. Anonymizing people
who have contributed to the catalog was a poor decision. It was a careless and
heartless decision.
I urge the site to reconsider the decision to anonymize any former catalog and
inventory contributors.
|
This may be in response to a new law that took effect in California this month.
It has to do with personal information in an online environment. BL headquarters
is in California, so I guess they have to abide by the law.
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| Author: | crazylegoman | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 18:10 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| I agree with everything you said. I didn't even know that was happening.
Was it something they started recently?
David
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| Author: | cycbuild | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 15:51 | | Subject: | Re: Duplicate | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | I salute your profile pic! |
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| Author: | Mrco | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 15:36 | | Subject: | Re: Duplicate | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog Requests, BricksThatStick writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Mrco writes:
| | Please delete duplicate
* | | 65072pb02 Minifigure, Headgear Ninjago Wrap Type 6 with Molded White Mask and Printed Medium Azure Ninjago Logogram Letter L on Black Background Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear |
This is the same
* | | 65072pb01 Minifigure, Headgear Ninjago Wrap Type 6 with Molded White Mask and Printed Medium Azure Ninjago Logogram Letter J on Black Background Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear |
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The symbols are different.
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Wow, did not noticed that. Maybe someone could tell do they mean something..
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 14:24 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
| | I can't help myself from returning to this topic.
It is not right to erase people who have contributed to the catalog and turn
them into a meaningless number (and a username that rhymes with "loser.").
|
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| |
BrickLink wants contributions. BrickLink wants an involved community. But when
BrickLink treats former contributors so dismissively, by erasing them into meaninglessness,
it makes me think they have no respect for contributors.
BrickLink contributors deserve better treatment than this. Anonymizing people
who have contributed to the catalog was a poor decision. It was a careless and
heartless decision.
I urge the site to reconsider the decision to anonymize any former catalog and
inventory contributors.
|
This is what happens when regulators (read government flunkies) pull their snouts
from the trough of public money long enough to do something. It becomes an unmitigated
RFU. The privacy and scrubbing laws exist for a reason, what some might view
as a good reason, but a reason none the less. It is easier to place the burden
on a few companies than to make all individuals behave like responsible citizens.
But I will say for this process - at the same time as scrubbing members, existing
members who have contributed should be contacted and requested to agree that,
as part of the process of contributing to the catalogue, such contributions are
acknowledged. Furthermore, members contributing, must sign a waiver allowing
BL Corp to keep using the contribution and BL's acknowledgement thereof,
for as long as the site persists. When a member closes his/her account, they
must be reminded of the waiver again and agree again as part of the process of
closing an account. Members who choose not to outlive the site, must make sure
that their wills make provision for the contributions to be acknowledged as long
as the site persists. BL must just learn to manage properly, is all. Members
must just learn to be responsible, is all.
The heartbreaking thing is that sans BL managing this, all catalogue contributions
will eventually be made by BLUSERs. So why bother at all? Just acknowledge all
contributions as by BLUSERs already or, alternatively, manage the process of
contributing and membership a bit better. You cannot do anything about the lot
who never thought to give BL their permission to outlive their usefulness, but
you can deal with the existing membership in a better manner.
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| Author: | mfav | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 14:19 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Maybe familiarizing yourself with this information will clear up many of your
questions about Blusers and cookie screens having priority over things like being
kind and being useful and usable.
Because. Compliance. Governments know what's best for all of us.
https://gdpr.eu
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 13:52 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
| | […]
I get privacy laws and removing information attached to profiles, but taking
the username is what I have a problem with. I don't see any reason whatsoever
why it was necessary to go that far.
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A username is personnal information that helps identify someone.
An example of what privacy laws entail:
When you go to the “I lost my password” page on a website, you enter a username
or an email address (another username, associated to an email provider).
The website should NOT answer:
“Sorry, this username/email-address is unknown.”
nor
“Okay, we know you, a message has been sent.”
The website should answer something like:
“If we know about that email address, a message has been sent.”
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 13:41 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In General, MidwestBrick writes:
| | In the long-run, why does it matter?
|
You make a fine argument. And if we were all to agree with it, then this page
should be removed from BrickLink altogether (which you clearly support):
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogMembers.asp
But to answer your question, I'll give you one way in which it actually does
matter. Catalog and inventory administrators sometimes have to make judgments
about the reliability of information that members submit. Contributors build
a reputation based on the quality of work they've done in the past.
Looking back on past work done to know how reliable it should be considered,
it actually does mean something to be able to identify a user and not just see
that one the blusers did it.
| | This literally sounds like an employee of mine that needs to know for every task they do that we all know they did it. After awhile, it doesn't hold any merit and I really don't care. The task was completed and we can move on.
|
Yeah, but if you truly believed that, then you would refer to all your employees
by a number. You would say things like, "Employee Number 3827, go assist Employees
Number 99234 and 439 with the task they're working on."
But you don't. Because people have names and you treat them like people,
not cogs in your machine.
At least I hope you do.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 13:37 | | Subject: | Re: 2FA or some other additional login security | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Suggestions, bje writes:
| | […]
+1^google*1^google
Enough said
|
Er, Jean, I’ve noticed you already used “+1^google*1^google” or something similar
a couple of times.
You do know 1^(whatever) is always 1, don’t you?
|
Not if it is 1^8 because then it is an emoticon wearing glasses doing a headstand.
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 13:30 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In General, MidwestBrick writes:
| | In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
| | I can't help myself from returning to this topic.
It is not right to erase people who have contributed to the catalog and turn
them into a meaningless number (and a username that rhymes with "loser.").
The first attached image shows people who have contributed a set inventory to
the catalog. For each person it was only one inventory, but it was time they
took out of their day or week to make a contribution.
The second image shows people who have added items to the catalog. One person
added 113 items. Another added 97 items. Yet another added 87 items. And so
on down the list.
Some of these unregistered users are no doubt dead. Some have moved on to new
pursuits. Some may be in a coma or in prison. Who knows why any one person
hasn't logged on or may never log on again?
BrickLink wants contributions. BrickLink wants an involved community. But when
BrickLink treats former contributors so dismissively, by erasing them into meaninglessness,
it makes me think they have no respect for contributors.
BrickLink contributors deserve better treatment than this. Anonymizing people
who have contributed to the catalog was a poor decision. It was a careless and
heartless decision.
I urge the site to reconsider the decision to anonymize any former catalog and
inventory contributors.
|
In the long-run, why does it matter? I can't recall if I have added anything
to the catalog but really don't care if my name is stamped on something or
not. The purpose is to get the information into the database so it can be utilized.
We all know that someone had to do it and we are all thankful of those contributors,
whether they did 1 submission, or 100,000 submissions.
Maybe it is my older age, but I don't need the "satisfaction" that others
know it was me that did something. My satisfaction comes from others enjoying
something that was done, regardless of whom did it.
This literally sounds like an employee of mine that needs to know for every task
they do that we all know they did it. After awhile, it doesn't hold any
merit and I really don't care. The task was completed and we can move on.
My suggestion, let it go and let those in charge, focus on things that need to
be done and let the trivial stuff whoosh right over our heads and leave us un-phased.
Not everything is going to be perfect and arguing over little things makes the
big things harder to accomplish.
|
I think most people would agree with you - the trouble is the big things are
taking much longer than anyone really anticipated to get to grips with so people
wile away their time with minor things. Maybe, just maybe if we concentrated
on the big things to let the new owners know our feelings we could help move
this along - maybe not - large corporates rarely listen in depth to what we have
to say (at least in the past, anyway).
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 13:28 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In General, Andrsv writes:
| | It is probably related to privacy laws. If someone deletes their account it is
for a reason, and many want their info removed. This is a guess based on related
issues on other places.
|
This was done wholesale for a large number of users at the same time and thus
was likely NOT based on privacy laws. The likelihood that hundreds of thousands
of users simultaneously requested that their information be removed is remarkably
low.
The Help Center states:
If you have done any of the following, then that information and your user
profile cannot be deleted but all other information attached to your user profile
will be deleted:
•Placed or received at least 1 order
•Changed your username or a profile was merged into your username
•Added at least 1 item to the catalog
•Added at least 1 image small or large to the catalog
•Added at least 1 inventory of an item to the catalog
•Added at least 1 relationship to the catalog
•Added at least 1 link to the links section
•Added at least 1 inventory change request to the catalog
•Added weight, dimensions or color code for at least 1 item in the catalog
•Are an inventories verifier and verified at least 1 inventory
•Sent any messages to other members through the contact form
•Posted a message in our discussion forum and it is still there
•Moved a discussion forum post and the message is still there
•Are currently or have been before banned from Chat
I assume BrickLink decided that sentence in bold meant that the username was
part of the information that should be removed.
I get privacy laws and removing information attached to profiles, but taking
the username is what I have a problem with. I don't see any reason whatsoever
why it was necessary to go that far.
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| Author: | MidwestBrick | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 13:23 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
| | I can't help myself from returning to this topic.
It is not right to erase people who have contributed to the catalog and turn
them into a meaningless number (and a username that rhymes with "loser.").
The first attached image shows people who have contributed a set inventory to
the catalog. For each person it was only one inventory, but it was time they
took out of their day or week to make a contribution.
The second image shows people who have added items to the catalog. One person
added 113 items. Another added 97 items. Yet another added 87 items. And so
on down the list.
Some of these unregistered users are no doubt dead. Some have moved on to new
pursuits. Some may be in a coma or in prison. Who knows why any one person
hasn't logged on or may never log on again?
BrickLink wants contributions. BrickLink wants an involved community. But when
BrickLink treats former contributors so dismissively, by erasing them into meaninglessness,
it makes me think they have no respect for contributors.
BrickLink contributors deserve better treatment than this. Anonymizing people
who have contributed to the catalog was a poor decision. It was a careless and
heartless decision.
I urge the site to reconsider the decision to anonymize any former catalog and
inventory contributors.
|
In the long-run, why does it matter? I can't recall if I have added anything
to the catalog but really don't care if my name is stamped on something or
not. The purpose is to get the information into the database so it can be utilized.
We all know that someone had to do it and we are all thankful of those contributors,
whether they did 1 submission, or 100,000 submissions.
Maybe it is my older age, but I don't need the "satisfaction" that others
know it was me that did something. My satisfaction comes from others enjoying
something that was done, regardless of whom did it.
This literally sounds like an employee of mine that needs to know for every task
they do that we all know they did it. After awhile, it doesn't hold any
merit and I really don't care. The task was completed and we can move on.
My suggestion, let it go and let those in charge, focus on things that need to
be done and let the trivial stuff whoosh right over our heads and leave us un-phased.
Not everything is going to be perfect and arguing over little things makes the
big things harder to accomplish.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 13:20 | | Subject: | Re: Question about flags (parts 4495a and 4495b) | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
| | would it be correct to submit a change request for the flags . . . since it appears that way in the instructions
|
No, part variant change requests should be based on actual sets contents and
not set instructions. Ideally, of course.
Set instructions don't always match set contents and inventories are intended
to represent actual set contents. A change request would need to be made based
on what was found in a brand new set.
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| Author: | WilliamRaine | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 13:16 | | Subject: | Re: Question about flags (parts 4495a and 4495b) | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, BLUSER13161 writes:
| | In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
| | I am replacing a few parts on set 7038-1 Troll Assault Wagon and noticed the
two flags included are listed as different variants....the dark blue is lefted
as "wave left" and the pearl gold as "wave right"
My set has the opposite style flags, and the instructions clearly show both flags
as the "wave left" variant.
|
If you scroll all the way to the bottom of the inventory page:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=7038-1
you will see the following sentence:
View a log of completed changes made to this inventory.
Clicking there will display the history of changes made to this set's inventory.
| | Is this a mistake in the inventory, or did the set
really come with both flags pointing in different directions?
|
According to BrickLink's timeline the flag change happened roughly around
2008, which is the year this set was released. So it's quite possible that
some 7038-1 sets came with left flags, some came with right flags, and some came
with both.
|
I see, I see. Thank you for the information. Since the flag change happened that
year, would it be correct to submit a change request for the flags and list the
"wave left" variant as the regular part since it appears that way in the instructions
and part list, and the "wave right" variant as an alternate item, do you think?
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|
| Author: | Andrsv | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 13:14 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
| | I can't help myself from returning to this topic.
It is not right to erase people who have contributed to the catalog and turn
them into a meaningless number (and a username that rhymes with "loser.").
The first attached image shows people who have contributed a set inventory to
the catalog. For each person it was only one inventory, but it was time they
took out of their day or week to make a contribution.
The second image shows people who have added items to the catalog. One person
added 113 items. Another added 97 items. Yet another added 87 items. And so
on down the list.
Some of these unregistered users are no doubt dead. Some have moved on to new
pursuits. Some may be in a coma or in prison. Who knows why any one person
hasn't logged on or may never log on again?
BrickLink wants contributions. BrickLink wants an involved community. But when
BrickLink treats former contributors so dismissively, by erasing them into meaninglessness,
it makes me think they have no respect for contributors.
BrickLink contributors deserve better treatment than this. Anonymizing people
who have contributed to the catalog was a poor decision. It was a careless and
heartless decision.
I urge the site to reconsider the decision to anonymize any former catalog and
inventory contributors.
|
It is probably related to privacy laws. If someone deletes their account it is
for a reason, and many want their info removed. This is a guess based on related
issues on other places.
|
|
| Author: | manganschlamm | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 13:14 | | Subject: | Re: Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
| | I can't help myself from returning to this topic.
It is not right to erase people who have contributed to the catalog and turn
them into a meaningless number (and a username that rhymes with "loser.").
The first attached image shows people who have contributed a set inventory to
the catalog. For each person it was only one inventory, but it was time they
took out of their day or week to make a contribution.
The second image shows people who have added items to the catalog. One person
added 113 items. Another added 97 items. Yet another added 87 items. And so
on down the list.
Some of these unregistered users are no doubt dead. Some have moved on to new
pursuits. Some may be in a coma or in prison. Who knows why any one person
hasn't logged on or may never log on again?
BrickLink wants contributions. BrickLink wants an involved community. But when
BrickLink treats former contributors so dismissively, by erasing them into meaninglessness,
it makes me think they have no respect for contributors.
BrickLink contributors deserve better treatment than this. Anonymizing people
who have contributed to the catalog was a poor decision. It was a careless and
heartless decision.
I urge the site to reconsider the decision to anonymize any former catalog and
inventory contributors.
|
Actually the spokesperson from TLG stated that BrickLink wants contributions
and BrickLink wants an involved community. Let us take a step back and have an
objective look at recent actions and evaluate if this claim is meant as a true
commitment or not.
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|
| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 13:06 | | Subject: | Have A Heart | | Viewed: | 276 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
|
| I can't help myself from returning to this topic.
It is not right to erase people who have contributed to the catalog and turn
them into a meaningless number (and a username that rhymes with "loser.").
The first attached image shows people who have contributed a set inventory to
the catalog. For each person it was only one inventory, but it was time they
took out of their day or week to make a contribution.
The second image shows people who have added items to the catalog. One person
added 113 items. Another added 97 items. Yet another added 87 items. And so
on down the list.
Some of these unregistered users are no doubt dead. Some have moved on to new
pursuits. Some may be in a coma or in prison. Who knows why any one person
hasn't logged on or may never log on again?
BrickLink wants contributions. BrickLink wants an involved community. But when
BrickLink treats former contributors so dismissively, by erasing them into meaninglessness,
it makes me think they have no respect for contributors.
BrickLink contributors deserve better treatment than this. Anonymizing people
who have contributed to the catalog was a poor decision. It was a careless and
heartless decision.
I urge the site to reconsider the decision to anonymize any former catalog and
inventory contributors.
|
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 13:06 | | Subject: | Re: 2FA or some other additional login security | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, bje writes:
| | […]
+1^google*1^google
Enough said
|
Er, Jean, I’ve noticed you already used “+1^google*1^google” or something similar
a couple of times.
You do know 1^(whatever) is always 1, don’t you?
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 12:58 | | Subject: | Re: 2FA or some other additional login security | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, Yo_Yo_Flamingo writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | Admin,
Please implement 2FA or some other additional login security to BrickLink account.
2FA = 2-Factor-Authentication
It could help prevent hacking or stealing of accounts and account & inventory
information.
Of course this could be set as optional on the account.
Thank you.
|
I could not be any more opposed to this.
|
+1^google*1^google
Enough said
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 12:47 | | Subject: | Re: 2FA or some other additional login security | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:
| | In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | The HAVE is not the phone, it’s the phone number, and that’s a KNOW. SMS can
be intercepted (both locally and remotely) and SIM cards can be duplicated.
As I said, it’s more difficult than just what script kiddies do nowadays, but
it’s only a 1k$ investment to intercept SMS remotely because the SMS protocole
is not secure. It might even already cost less.
And a malware that can intercept the SMS on the phone costs even less but you
need to put it on the phone but that is not that difficult.
So, again, yes, 2FA adds hurdles but the SMS hurdles are lower than you think
they are.
|
(I should know better than to argue with you - you always spin it around so you
are not wrong.)
|
What did I spin? 
In the local attack case, adding something to the same device that already has/knows
everything doesn’t add security, just a warm and dangerous feeling of security.
In the remote attack case, the SMS protocole is not secure and intercepting an
SMS locally or remotely is possible.
Once again, I never claimed 2FA isn’t worthy of interest, I said “please, no
SMS-2FA” and “beware having everything on the same device.”
| | I would love to see you, being in France, with any "1k$ investment" intercepting
a cell TXT message sent from BrickLink to my Canadian cell phone.
|
I’m not a criminal but I know what they are capable of.
Search for SS7, SMS and 2FA and you’ll know too.
Or keep believing in rainbow-producing unicorns.
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 12:31 | | Subject: | Re: 2FA or some other additional login security | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, mfav writes:
Couldn't have summed it up better myself.
|
|
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 12:23 | | Subject: | Re: 2FA or some other additional login security | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, Yo_Yo_Flamingo writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | Admin,
Please implement 2FA or some other additional login security to BrickLink account.
2FA = 2-Factor-Authentication
It could help prevent hacking or stealing of accounts and account & inventory
information.
Of course this could be set as optional on the account.
Thank you.
|
I could not be any more opposed to this.
|
+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Just adds more clumsiness to the site. The UK has recently adopted a multi authentication
system for online banking and shopping and to say the least it is a pain the
...., and as mobile phones are one of the most insecure devices on the planet
we simply do not understand how they can believe it is more secure. Far less
in reality/
This, perhaps, is what we see when an intellectual who sits behind a desk all
day comes up with ideas which bear no relationship to reality.
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| Author: | Yo_Yo_Flamingo | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 12:16 | | Subject: | Re: 2FA or some other additional login security | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | Admin,
Please implement 2FA or some other additional login security to BrickLink account.
2FA = 2-Factor-Authentication
It could help prevent hacking or stealing of accounts and account & inventory
information.
Of course this could be set as optional on the account.
Thank you.
|
I could not be any more opposed to this.
|
|
| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 11:49 | | Subject: | Re: Question about flags (parts 4495a and 4495b) | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
| | I am replacing a few parts on set 7038-1 Troll Assault Wagon and noticed the
two flags included are listed as different variants....the dark blue is lefted
as "wave left" and the pearl gold as "wave right"
My set has the opposite style flags, and the instructions clearly show both flags
as the "wave left" variant.
|
If you scroll all the way to the bottom of the inventory page:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=7038-1
you will see the following sentence:
View a log of completed changes made to this inventory.
Clicking there will display the history of changes made to this set's inventory.
| | Is this a mistake in the inventory, or did the set
really come with both flags pointing in different directions?
|
According to BrickLink's timeline the flag change happened roughly around
2008, which is the year this set was released. So it's quite possible that
some 7038-1 sets came with left flags, some came with right flags, and some came
with both.
|
|
| Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 11:45 | | Subject: | Re: 2FA or some other additional login security | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | The HAVE is not the phone, it’s the phone number, and that’s a KNOW. SMS can
be intercepted (both locally and remotely) and SIM cards can be duplicated.
As I said, it’s more difficult than just what script kiddies do nowadays, but
it’s only a 1k$ investment to intercept SMS remotely because the SMS protocole
is not secure. It might even already cost less.
And a malware that can intercept the SMS on the phone costs even less but you
need to put it on the phone but that is not that difficult.
So, again, yes, 2FA adds hurdles but the SMS hurdles are lower than you think
they are.
|
(I should know better than to argue with you - you always spin it around so you
are not wrong.)
I would love to see you, being in France, with any "1k$ investment" intercepting
a cell TXT message sent from BrickLink to my Canadian cell phone.
Niek.
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|
| Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 11:12 | | Subject: | Re: Persistent issues… | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
| | agulus’s input in this thread has reignited a persistent and nagging thought
of mine: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1176265
It’s a valid point made by member agulus, that has unfortunately been ongoing
as an issue, in the face of contrary input towards the feedback policy.
I’ve brought it up in the past, that a neutral should be just that, neutral,
and not effect your feedback percentage number displayed, up or down.
Beyond the obvious reasons, is the fact that there are many newish buyers that
mistakenly see BL’s neutral, as neutral. Silly people Meanwhile, it continues
to result in an amount of havoc in that arena of BrickLink.
I look forward to reading your honest thoughts
|
The thinking on this has been brought up from time to time, going back a while.
This member stated his case well, two years ago: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1081558
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 11:00 | | Subject: | Re: 2FA or some other additional login security | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:
| | […]
| | Remote: someone copies your credentials (login+password), your KNOW.
Oh, it’s okay, they don’t have the HAVE!
But of course they do! Because your HAVE is only a phone number, which is actually
a KNOW.
|
No, you don't understand. In the case OP described, the HAVE is implemented
by a TXT message to a registered cell phone number.
- The site registers a login with username/password (the KNOW);
- It sends a TXT message to a registered cell number (the HAVE);
- User needs to type that TXT message in a separate box on the login page.
You (as a hacker) won't be able to see that TXT message because you don't
HAVE that cell phone, so you can't type that message in, and hence you can't
complete the authentication process.
Please let me know how "SylvainLS" in France can type in the secret code that
was sent to my cell phone in Canada.
|
The HAVE is not the phone, it’s the phone number, and that’s a KNOW. SMS can
be intercepted (both locally and remotely) and SIM cards can be duplicated.
As I said, it’s more difficult than just what script kiddies do nowadays, but
it’s only a 1k$ investment to intercept SMS remotely because the SMS protocole
is not secure. It might even already cost less.
And a malware that can intercept the SMS on the phone costs even less but you
need to put it on the phone but that is not that difficult.
So, again, yes, 2FA adds hurdles but the SMS hurdles are lower than you think
they are.
|
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| Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 10:35 | | Subject: | Re: 2FA or some other additional login security | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:
| | […]
2FA is also referred to "something you know, and something you have". 2FA is
not meant to make sure it is you that is using your phone. Rather, it is meant
to do a second check after "someone" logged in (and used the "something you know")
by making sure that person also clears the "something you have" hurdle.
Saying 2FA implementations are generally flawed because they don't check
you are using the same device makes no sense. It is not meant to do that check.
It is meant to prevent "SylvainLS" in France to log into account "qwertyboy".
Good luck doing that if 2FA sends my Canadian phone a txt.
|
Let me be clearer. There are two types of attack: remote and local.
Local: someone steals or hacks your device, your HAVE.
Oh, it’s okay, they don’t have the KNOW!
But of course they do! Because everything is stored on your phone, including
the KNOW.
Remote: someone copies your credentials (login+password), your KNOW.
Oh, it’s okay, they don’t have the HAVE!
But of course they do! Because your HAVE is only a phone number, which is actually
a KNOW.
|
No, you don't understand. In the case OP described, the HAVE is implemented
by a TXT message to a registered cell phone number.
- The site registers a login with username/password (the KNOW);
- It sends a TXT message to a registered cell number (the HAVE);
- User needs to type that TXT message in a separate box on the login page.
You (as a hacker) won't be able to see that TXT message because you don't
HAVE that cell phone, so you can't type that message in, and hence you can't
complete the authentication process.
Please let me know how "SylvainLS" in France can type in the secret code that
was sent to my cell phone in Canada.
Niek.
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| Author: | minithings4life | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 09:47 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Minifig pln155s | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* | | pln155s (Inv) Plain White Torso with Vestas Logo (Sticker) with White Arms, Dark Blue Legs, Red Construction Helmet, Glasses
Minifigures: Town: City |
* Change 1 Part {Blue to Dark Blue} 970c00 Hips and Legs
Comments from Submitter:
legs should be dark blue not blue, have checked a sealed set.
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| Author: | minithings4life | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 09:43 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Minifig pln156s | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* | | pln156s (Inv) Plain White Torso with Vestas Logo (Sticker) with White Arms, Dark Blue Legs, Red Construction Helmet, Vertical Cheek Lines
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| Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 09:40 | | Subject: | Re: Persistent issues… | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Pippyblocks writes:
| | I say yes to this too, I had my first neutral quite early on and it killed my
100% there and then. It was a positive too and the customer wasn't sure how
to change it. On the flip side it means you don't ever have to worry about
maintaining 100% anymore But yeah feedback I believe has become more and
more dated across platforms. I only ever bother to look at feedback if it's
a significant amount I'm spending.
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Fantastic input!
Thanks
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 09:29 | | Subject: | Re: 2FA or some other additional login security | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:
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2FA is also referred to "something you know, and something you have". 2FA is
not meant to make sure it is you that is using your phone. Rather, it is meant
to do a second check after "someone" logged in (and used the "something you know")
by making sure that person also clears the "something you have" hurdle.
Saying 2FA implementations are generally flawed because they don't check
you are using the same device makes no sense. It is not meant to do that check.
It is meant to prevent "SylvainLS" in France to log into account "qwertyboy".
Good luck doing that if 2FA sends my Canadian phone a txt.
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Let me be clearer. There are two types of attack: remote and local.
Local: someone steals or hacks your device, your HAVE.
Oh, it’s okay, they don’t have the KNOW!
But of course they do! Because everything is stored on your phone, including
the KNOW.
Remote: someone copies your credentials (login+password), your KNOW.
Oh, it’s okay, they don’t have the HAVE!
But of course they do! Because your HAVE is only a phone number, which is actually
a KNOW.
Granted, a KNOW a bit more difficult to use than login+password, but still very
usable.
I’m not saying 2FA is bad. I’m saying 2FA isn’t a panacea, one-device 2FAs less
of one, and SMS-2FA even less of one.
I’m not advocating not to add 2FA, I’m just saying “careful with SMS-2FA.”
Anyway, all this is moot because BrickLink, and BrickLink and phones….
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2020 09:28 | | Subject: | Re: 2FA or some other additional login security | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
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Obviously the idea behind 2FA is that you're NOT using the same device.
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Yeah, that’s the idea but unfortunately, that’s not the common practice.
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Apparently it is not YOUR practice. Don't generalize what you don't know.
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Apparently nothing, because it’s not my practice.
I’m talking about what I see people do while you’re assuming your case is the
general one.
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personally never use the same device. Also, besides SMS there are authentication
apps which are secured by a pincode. In general, 2FA is regarded as the standard
safe login method today whereas 1FA is considered not safe enough anymore. Hence
the suggestion.
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I understand the suggestion. I’m just pointing one pitfall.
“Regarded” is the problem here: people feel confident when in reality the implementation
is generally flawed.
How many websites check you’re not using the same device?
None, because it can’t be done.
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2FA is not meant to be 100% safe,
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Nothing is 100% safe, that’s not my point.
My point is things being presented as safer than they are.
| | | | just SAFER than 1FA. You do not have to use
it if you don't want to. But, if the passwords were stolen, they can login
with 1FA but not with 2FA.
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Except that, if they have your phone number, — and they will get it when they
get your passwords —, they can intercept your SMS.
Granted, it demands a little bit more investment than what script kiddies are
used to _now_, but SMS-2FA is less safe than other 2FAs.
And what one-device 2FAs do is actually replace a KNOW, your login+password,
with a HAVE, your device, because the device already KNOWS everything.
| | Even if you have just one device only, as you have Sylvain
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Assume, assume….
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