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| As stated by the Dutch member, the same regulation concerning used goods (Differenzbesteuerung)
applies in Germany. All goods sold by using Differenzbesteuerung are not counting
for the 10000 Euro.
Regards
Stefan
In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
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| Author: | ZwarteMagica | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 14:38 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 166 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| Dear BrickLink,
Thank you for your e-mail regarding "implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce
rules for online marketplaces". First, I feel quite threatened by your e-mail
because of the combined deadline (30 days), the sanction (revoking seller privileges)
and incorrect rules mentioned. HappyB has always worked compliant with the Dutch
and EU laws. By my knowledge your rules/information is incorrect. Let me explain.
HappyB applies the Dutch version of 'VAT margin goods' ('margeregeling'
in Dutch) on all it's sold products.
https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/bldcontentnl/belastingdienst/zakelijk/btw/zakendoen_met_het_buitenland/goederen_en_diensten_naar_andere_eu_landen/export_van_specifieke_goederen_en_in_bijzondere_situaties/export_margegoederen_naar_eu_landen
The above link is an official page from the Dutch national Tax agency. It clearly
states that, when applying the 'margeregeling' no VAT should be mentioned
on the invoice and no VAT should be charged to the customer. The seller should
pay VAT over the profit to the Dutch tax agency.
https://www.kvk.nl/advies-en-informatie/internationaal-ondernemen/e-commerce/btw-regels-voor-e-commerce-in-de-eu/
The above link is an official page from the Dutch Chamber of Commerce. It clearly
states that all sales done using the previously mentioned 'margeregeling'
do not count towards the €10.000 threshold mentioned in BrickLink's e-mail.
Again, HappyB applies the Dutch version of 'VAT margin goods' ('margeregeling'
in Dutch) on all it's products.
Please confirm having received this message.
We do not intent to register for VAT on BrickLink.
We do not (yet) intent to activate BrickLink's marketplaces functionality.
Please confirm that my store will not lose it's selling privileges in 30
days, regardless the above.
Please confirm that HappyB will continue to be able to sell to buyers from other
EU countries.
Kind regards,
HappyB
Marcel
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| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:57 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 79 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, Teup writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.
About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.
Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.
I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????
Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.
So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.
If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.
And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.
I planned a quiet day today!
https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp
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Addition:
When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.
|
I was assuming submitting an OSS automatically means the VAT will be the percentage
of the buyer's country. They're asking sellers to do that, so that must
mean that that is what Bricklink is supporting. But yes, it would be good to
hear some more info on this. For example if it can be switched on and off by
the seller, or if Bricklink is forcing sellers. (Although you can still do what
you want in your own administration and ignore what Bricklink does, if you're
not fussy about earning 1-2% more or less)
|
If you count the time you spend on administration since all changes with PostNL,
Brexit, US Sales Tax, we already lost a lot. So, yes I am 'fussy' about
1-2% less.
Although I don't know the outcome yet. DE 19% sales might be more 21+% sales.
But it's the administration that counts. Time is money!
And speaking about Time: Er komt 'n tijd dat we meer bezig zijn met administratie
dan met de rest van onze in- en verkoop werkzaamheden.
|
If my Sale price incl. 21% VAT is € 121, a German buyer should see a price of
€ 119 and receive an Invoice or Purchase notification of € 119, VAT 19% =
€ 19 over € 100 NET. If they still pay € 121, the seller has to calculate, received
€ 121 / 119 x 100 = NET and € 121 / 119 x 19 = VAT
Back to the sixties!
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Ah yep it depends on your workflow I guess. I have always ignored Bricklink's
VAT and other features, I just feed the order's grand total into my software
and work from there. So if I receive €121 instead of €119 from a German customer
it would make no difference to me in terms of administration. Right now it charges
21% regardless, and will charge the percentage of the buyer once I update the
software in december. So I ignore what Bricklink does.
But of course, all of this isn't an excuse for Bricklink not to get it right.
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| Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:48 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 77 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, Teup writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.
About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.
Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.
I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????
Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.
So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.
If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.
And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.
I planned a quiet day today!
https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp
|
Addition:
When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.
|
I was assuming submitting an OSS automatically means the VAT will be the percentage
of the buyer's country. They're asking sellers to do that, so that must
mean that that is what Bricklink is supporting. But yes, it would be good to
hear some more info on this. For example if it can be switched on and off by
the seller, or if Bricklink is forcing sellers. (Although you can still do what
you want in your own administration and ignore what Bricklink does, if you're
not fussy about earning 1-2% more or less)
|
If you count the time you spend on administration since all changes with PostNL,
Brexit, US Sales Tax, we already lost a lot. So, yes I am 'fussy' about
1-2% less.
Although I don't know the outcome yet. DE 19% sales might be more 21+% sales.
But it's the administration that counts. Time is money!
And speaking about Time: Er komt 'n tijd dat we meer bezig zijn met administratie
dan met de rest van onze in- en verkoop werkzaamheden.
|
If my Sale price incl. 21% VAT is € 121, a German buyer should see a price of
€ 119 and receive an Invoice or Purchase notification of € 119, VAT 19% =
€ 19 over € 100 NET. If they still pay € 121, the seller has to calculate, received
€ 121 / 119 x 100 = NET and € 121 / 119 x 19 = VAT
Back to the sixties!
|
|
| Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:37 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, Teup writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.
About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.
Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.
I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????
Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.
So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.
If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.
And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.
I planned a quiet day today!
https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp
|
Addition:
When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.
|
I was assuming submitting an OSS automatically means the VAT will be the percentage
of the buyer's country. They're asking sellers to do that, so that must
mean that that is what Bricklink is supporting. But yes, it would be good to
hear some more info on this. For example if it can be switched on and off by
the seller, or if Bricklink is forcing sellers. (Although you can still do what
you want in your own administration and ignore what Bricklink does, if you're
not fussy about earning 1-2% more or less)
|
If you count the time you spend on administration since all changes with PostNL,
Brexit, US Sales Tax, we already lost a lot. So, yes I am 'fussy' about
1-2% less.
Although I don't know the outcome yet. DE 19% sales might be more 21+% sales.
But it's the administration that counts. Time is money!
And speaking about Time: Er komt 'n tijd dat we meer bezig zijn met administratie
dan met de rest van onze in- en verkoop werkzaamheden.
|
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| Author: | Bricks_And_More | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:18 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 86 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| snip..
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Addition:
When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.
|
That's my question too!
If a buyer from Germany buys from me then, the vat is 19%, if it's a customer
from Hongary, it's 27%! Must i eat the difference myself? Or just put 27%
on all my items to avoid that?
How can i manage that with my prices?
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| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:17 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 87 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.
About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.
Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.
I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????
Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.
So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.
If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.
And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.
I planned a quiet day today!
https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp
|
Addition:
When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.
|
I was assuming submitting an OSS automatically means the VAT will be the percentage
of the buyer's country. They're asking sellers to do that, so that must
mean that that is what Bricklink is supporting. But yes, it would be good to
hear some more info on this. For example if it can be switched on and off by
the seller, or if Bricklink is forcing sellers. (Although you can still do what
you want in your own administration and ignore what Bricklink does, if you're
not fussy about earning 1-2% more or less)
|
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| Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:13 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 85 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | […]
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
|
 There’s a problem with your dates. It should be 2020, no?
|
yes you are right 
The UK-EU period of the last 12 months.
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| Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:05 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 106 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.
About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.
Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.
I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????
Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.
So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.
If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.
And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.
I planned a quiet day today!
https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp
|
Addition:
When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.
|
|
| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:02 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 95 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | […]
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
|
There’s a problem with your dates. It should be 2020, no?
|
|
| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 07:58 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 118 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, rankster writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
|
This is quite the opposite of what my tax professional said. I was told that
I have nothing to do with my preceding 12 months sales (at least here in Austria,
it could vary by country). All I need to monitor is my sales from July 1st, 2021
and if it's not exceeding the EUR 10 000 treshold this year I'm OK to
register not sooner than 2022.
|
Same here (Netherlands). Imo same in all EU countries, for it is a EU Guideline.
| |
| |
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
|
What if I already have a valid VAT-ID but I'm in VAT-exempt status until
the end of this year for sure? Should I add my VAT-ID but not enabling VAT in
my settings?
|
|
+1
I am not selling over the threshold this year, and I will not use local VAT rates
this year, no matter if you suspend me or not. I simply am not able to use the
new scheme at this point, because my software needs to be rewritten and I cannot
do that now. I am doing that in december.
Last year's sales do not matter under the Dutch legislation. I'm acting
100% in accordance with the new laws.
|
|
| Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 07:45 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 129 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, rankster writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
|
This is quite the opposite of what my tax professional said. I was told that
I have nothing to do with my preceding 12 months sales (at least here in Austria,
it could vary by country). All I need to monitor is my sales from July 1st, 2021
and if it's not exceeding the EUR 10 000 treshold this year I'm OK to
register not sooner than 2022.
|
Same here (Netherlands). Imo same in all EU countries, for it is a EU Guideline.
| |
| |
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
|
What if I already have a valid VAT-ID but I'm in VAT-exempt status until
the end of this year for sure? Should I add my VAT-ID but not enabling VAT in
my settings?
|
|
|
| Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 07:43 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 145 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.
About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.
Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.
I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????
Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.
So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.
If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.
And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.
I planned a quiet day today!
https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp
|
|
| Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 07:38 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 153 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
|
This is quite the opposite of what my tax professional said. I was told that
I have nothing to do with my preceding 12 months sales (at least here in Austria,
it could vary by country). All I need to monitor is my sales from July 1st, 2021
and if it's not exceeding the EUR 10 000 treshold this year I'm OK to
register not sooner than 2022.
| |
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
|
What if I already have a valid VAT-ID but I'm in VAT-exempt status until
the end of this year for sure? Should I add my VAT-ID but not enabling VAT in
my settings?
|
|
| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 07:21 | | Subject: | EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 865 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
|
BrickLink
ID CardAdmin_Russell
|
Location:  USA, California |
| Member Since |
Contact |
Type |
Status |
| May 9, 2017 |
 |
Admin |
|
|
| BrickLink Administrator |
|
| An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
|
| Author: | Macaronis | | Posted: | Jul 13, 2021 21:58 | | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | | Viewed: | 103 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, pitz8008 writes:
| | In Administrative, Macaronis writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Dear BrickLink members,
Because of the severe nature of the spam in our Forum today, we will need to
take steps to prevent excessive posting from new members. In the past we have
not placed limits because we wanted to keep the door open to new members who
may have issues that are not resolved with one or two posts.
Obviously, it's going to take some time to cancel all the spam from today.
Please bear with us, and contact me personally if you have any idea who you think
is behind this attack.
Thank you.
|
As they say in Aliens. Nuke it from Orbit... Just to be sure.
|
"It's the only way to be sure".....epic, top notch flick
|
TY for edit.. Been a few years wince I watched it and didnt bother to go google
and copy the Quote. 
|
|
| Author: | pitz8008 | | Posted: | Jul 13, 2021 01:12 | | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | | Viewed: | 82 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, Macaronis writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Dear BrickLink members,
Because of the severe nature of the spam in our Forum today, we will need to
take steps to prevent excessive posting from new members. In the past we have
not placed limits because we wanted to keep the door open to new members who
may have issues that are not resolved with one or two posts.
Obviously, it's going to take some time to cancel all the spam from today.
Please bear with us, and contact me personally if you have any idea who you think
is behind this attack.
Thank you.
|
As they say in Aliens. Nuke it from Orbit... Just to be sure.
|
"It's the only way to be sure".....epic, top notch flick
|
|
| Author: | Macaronis | | Posted: | Jul 12, 2021 19:37 | | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | | Viewed: | 97 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Dear BrickLink members,
Because of the severe nature of the spam in our Forum today, we will need to
take steps to prevent excessive posting from new members. In the past we have
not placed limits because we wanted to keep the door open to new members who
may have issues that are not resolved with one or two posts.
Obviously, it's going to take some time to cancel all the spam from today.
Please bear with us, and contact me personally if you have any idea who you think
is behind this attack.
Thank you.
|
As they say in Aliens. Nuke it from Orbit... Just to be sure.
|
|
| Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jul 12, 2021 13:11 | | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| In Administrative, tEoS writes:
| | After clicking Save Settings, does the banner appear that indicates the
your settings were saved?
|
Sure does.
My guess is that the settings appear to be saved because the form fields on the
page are populated by the submitted form data rather than being read back from
the database.
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| Author: | tEoS | | Posted: | Jul 12, 2021 12:29 | | Subject: | Re: Forum spam | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
|
| After clicking Save Settings, does the banner appear that indicates the
your settings were saved?
| | I'm using the same build, but it doesn't work.
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