| Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | randyf  | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2018 11:05 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 10230-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
| | But before I make such change for these three from 2012:
I will wait for Randy opinion if he agree with me. Or maybe he have different
idea how to deal in this case or some more sources to check.
Randy your opinion?
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Well, my opinion for
is quite clear! 
I own the set, and I was the one who added the tap without hole as the alternate
back in 2012. In fact, I added a lot of alternates to that set at that time.
So for this set, I am going to just make the main inventory contain the 'b'
version and get rid of the undetermined one. If someone ever finds the 'a'
version in this set in the future, we can add it back in.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2018 06:48 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 10230-1 | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Black {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove}
Comments from Submitter:
I got this set when it was new and have looked for it several times to fix the inventory. Today I stumbled upon it by accident.
Concerning taps, what is our endgame? I have LBG nozzle with no hole and that is in the inventory as alternates. (no information on the white ones because I never built that building) But no one has come forward with a no nozzle for many years. I tried to study the change log to figure out a clear timeline and I got lost. But I think the undetermined taps should either be turned to hole in nozzle or taken out of the inventory.
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As you didn't build it from sealed contents I just formaly confirm "a" variant
of this part. It is visible in this review fro sealed set contents
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQjEOw3FWx8
LBG tap is in this review also visible as "b" variant (unfortunetly there is
no way to confirm white one, way of use in the build make it almost impossible)
So about this tap I looked at this problem.
As I see we are getting close to finsh sorting them. Only 26 sets, 1 book ant
3 gears left to check and sort. Other almost 900 sets have particular variant
in their inventory  So I think we have a pattern and a time line for this
part quite checked and some conclusions can be made for this part
When you comparing timline there is some interesting pattern.
As you can see undetermined one is left in sets from following years:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=4599&v=3&in=S
2009 - 11 sets
2010 - 7 sets
2011 - 4 sets
2012 - 4 sets
In the meantime when dealing with your request I corrected undetermined for two
sets from 2012 (to look if something could be done here) these two set hadn't
alternate tap in their inventories so it was simple checking what variant is
confirmed there in sealed set content.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1118887
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1118885
So from 2012 we have only four left. Three sets (10230 - set you are asking,
4205, 9463) have confirmed variant in alternate section and it is "b". Fourth
one have only undetermined variant but is tough one, it is now rare set and I
couldn't be able to find any reliable source to check it.
As you check timeline for "a" variant
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=4599a&in=S
you will see that confirmed appearance of this older one is only in a few sets
in above years:
2009 - 9 sets
2010 - 3 sets
2011 - 2 sets only! (and both have it in alternate section)
no confirmed sets with "a" from 2012 so far.
So check timline for "b" you will see that confirmed appearance of this new one
is in many sets in above years:
2009- 30 sets
2010 - 32 sets
2011 - 39 sets
2012 - 46 sets!
So there are 46 sets from 2012 with confirmed "b" variant an none found with
"a" variant. We have three now with undetermined which are also confirmed having
"b" but in alternate section. So in this case seeing also that in 2011 only two
were confirmed (from 39 having "b") with "a" I think in this three sets we can
delete undetermine and move "b" to regular section. If somone find "a" variant
in them confirmed from sealed set contents we can always add it to alternate
as in those from 2011.
I didn't have time to check the others left from other years. But in free
time I will come back to this problem and see if more can be cleared here from
undetermine to finally finish sorting these taps, as I said we are very near
the end here.
But before I make such change for these three from 2012:
I will wait for Randy opinion if he agree with me. Or maybe he have different
idea how to deal in this case or some more sources to check.
Randy your opinion?
Or we still wait for a proof for "a" ?
I know I writen this
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1103839 but after above analysis
I've changed my mind. First we could try to once again maybe confirm "b"
for these three sets and then get rid of undetermined from them.
P.S.
about above message link from mentioned threat https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1103746.
There was a try to get rid of these undetermine but it was wrong because submitter
tried without a prof change simple undetermined to old variant "a" and for this
we must have proof from reliable sources. Especially in this case for 2012 set
when no 2012 was yet confired having this variant even as alternate.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2018 06:41 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7722-1 | | Viewed: | 15 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
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Sylvain, are you sure my motor is still new?
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Sorry if I wasn’t clear: I meant to say it was debattable, with a “New” argument
(screwing isn’t clicking) but starting with a “Used” arguments (opening isn’t
sorting).
I didn’t actually give my own opinion: it’s Used!
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| Author: | hobbyist69 | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2018 06:35 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 2818-1 | | Viewed: | 15 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part sleepbag06 White Duplo Cloth Sleeping Bag with Pink and Blue Bunny Pattern (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part White sleepbag07 Duplo Cloth Sleeping Bag with Blue, Lime, Red and Yellow Bunny Pattern {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 1}
Comments from Submitter:
I recently bought a second hand set (no box or instructions) which had every part of this set correct except that this sleeping bag was the two tone version rather than multi-coloured version. This is backed up by some pictures of set 2818 on the internet.
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| Author: | mockingbird | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2018 05:42 | | Subject: | set 10205 extra parts question | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| As far as I can see (maybe I overlooked something):
In the regular section of the inventory there are parts that are not used in
the main model (and the instructions or box do not show any secondary model):
1x black brick 1x2
2x black plate 1x1 clip horizontal
2x black slope inverted 75 2x1x3
1x black tile 1x4
But then in the extra parts section of set 10205 are 2x black panel 1x2x3 (2362b).
Shouldn't these two panels also be moved to the regular section?
Or should all these parts be moved to the 'extra' section as the secondary
model is not in the instructions?
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2018 04:49 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4207-1 | | Viewed: | 13 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 3 Part Yellow {4599 Tap 1 x 1 - (MARKED FOR DELETION - Undetermined Nozzle End Version) to 4599b Tap 1 x 1 without Hole in Nozzle End}
Comments from Submitter:
Additional informations to follow.
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Review from this user:
(review is in a few parts)
first video new set opened in front ot the camera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfw89_bMcvk
second video
tap variant is visible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEhRIw2qP-Q
The same tap variant is also in this speed build visible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7jI_--3yTU
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2018 04:48 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 4207-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 3 Part Yellow {4599 Tap 1 x 1 - (MARKED FOR DELETION - Undetermined Nozzle End Version) to 4599b Tap 1 x 1 without Hole in Nozzle End}
Comments from Submitter:
Additional informations to follow.
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2018 04:37 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4430-1 | | Viewed: | 14 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Yellow {4599 Tap 1 x 1 - (MARKED FOR DELETION - Undetermined Nozzle End Version) to 4599b Tap 1 x 1 without Hole in Nozzle End}
Comments from Submitter:
Additional information to follow.
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"b" variant visible in this review. Build from sealed set content, bags opened
in front of the camera.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8BKqqEgBfQ
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2018 04:35 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 4430-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Yellow {4599 Tap 1 x 1 - (MARKED FOR DELETION - Undetermined Nozzle End Version) to 4599b Tap 1 x 1 without Hole in Nozzle End}
Comments from Submitter:
Additional information to follow.
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| Author: | FreeStorm | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2018 02:37 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4021-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 4 Part 4073 Trans-Dark Blue Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side
* Add 2 Part 4073c01 Trans-Dark Blue Plate, Round 1 x 1, 2 on Sprue
* Delete 4 Part 4073 Trans-Yellow Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side
* Add 2 Part 4073c01 Trans-Yellow Plate, Round 1 x 1, 2 on Sprue
* Delete 8 Part 4073 Yellow Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side
* Add 4 Part 4073c01 Yellow Plate, Round 1 x 1, 2 on Sprue
* Delete 1 Part 4073 Trans-Dark Blue Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side (Extra)
Comments from Submitter:
Full review:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=268718
Source file:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Rober-to/Town/4021/4021f.jpg
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Rober-to/Town/4021/4021d.jpg
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Rober-to/Town/4021/4021h.jpg
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