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 Author: michaelhunt View Messages Posted By michaelhunt
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 22:38
 Subject: Re: We need protection from postal delay negs
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michaelhunt (1605)

Location:  USA, Florida
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Add a one-week cooling off period before you could leave neutral or negative
feedback on the seller. Along with a pop-up recommendation that you contact the
seller to work out your grievances.

Just my two cents worth.





In Suggestions, Adjour writes:
  I've been getting more and more messages from buyers wanting to know where
on earth their parcels are.


I've already gotten a neutral over this and I'm sure more are to come.
I know that allowing removals of these negs is a slippery slope so I wont go
there.


I'm suggesting that until the covid crisis is over that BL puts an extra
disclaimer on the feedback area explaining that postal delays are not our fault.

It doesn't even need to be permanent. Just something official. They aren't
reading our terms disclaimers.


Open to any input on this.
 Author: Adjour View Messages Posted By Adjour
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 22:37
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Adjour (2456)

Location:  USA, Tennessee
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In Suggestions, owlcd writes:
  In Suggestions, Adjour writes:
  Thanks everyone so far


Yeah, I don't recall if I saw it on EBAY or AMAZON, but I have for sure seen
checkout or tracking number warnings somewhere. Also I've gotten
emails that my parcels arrival dates have been bumped.


I think its a legit concern, esp if the big platforms are doing something about
it.

There is a bright red banner on the USPS tracking page announcing that there
are delays in transporting the mail...

I've been following several packages that just seem to get stuck in limbo...
Taking 2-3 days to get from one facility to the next - in the SAME city...

So buyers should know it's not you, the sender...

What they should know and what they do seem to not be the same. I've gotten
many messages.
 Author: owlcd View Messages Posted By owlcd
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 21:46
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owlcd (156)

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In Suggestions, Adjour writes:
  Thanks everyone so far


Yeah, I don't recall if I saw it on EBAY or AMAZON, but I have for sure seen
checkout or tracking number warnings somewhere. Also I've gotten
emails that my parcels arrival dates have been bumped.


I think its a legit concern, esp if the big platforms are doing something about
it.

There is a bright red banner on the USPS tracking page announcing that there
are delays in transporting the mail...

I've been following several packages that just seem to get stuck in limbo...
Taking 2-3 days to get from one facility to the next - in the SAME city...

So buyers should know it's not you, the sender...
 Author: Adjour View Messages Posted By Adjour
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 21:03
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Adjour (2456)

Location:  USA, Tennessee
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Thanks everyone so far


Yeah, I don't recall if I saw it on EBAY or AMAZON, but I have for sure seen
checkout or tracking number warnings somewhere. Also I've gotten
emails that my parcels arrival dates have been bumped.


I think its a legit concern, esp if the big platforms are doing something about
it.
 Author: cptnruthless View Messages Posted By cptnruthless
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 21:02
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 70639-1
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cptnruthless (1319)

Location:  USA, California
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 70639  Name: Street Race of Snake Jaguar
* 
70639-1 (Inv) Street Race of Snake Jaguar
296 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2018
Sets: NINJAGO: Sons of Garmadon

* Add 1 Part 85984pb254 Dark Azure Slope 30 1 x 2 x 2/3 with Speed Gauge Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70639 (Counterpart)
 Author: superchicken77 View Messages Posted By superchicken77
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 20:26
 Subject: Re: We need protection from postal delay negs
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superchicken77 (1273)

Location:  Canada, Ontario
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Voted yes.

I too have had a few customers asking where their packages are after explicitly
telling them before I shipped out that it could take longer than normal. One
buyer did reply back and say his package arrived and apologized for not being
more patient. Haven't got a negative or neutral yet but I'm sure you're
not the only one who has.

This warning should be on the feedback area AND on checkout. Buyers should see
this warning and maybe have to check the box that they have read and understood
that shipping delays are to be expected.


In Suggestions, Adjour writes:
  I've been getting more and more messages from buyers wanting to know where
on earth their parcels are.


I've already gotten a neutral over this and I'm sure more are to come.
I know that allowing removals of these negs is a slippery slope so I wont go
there.


I'm suggesting that until the covid crisis is over that BL puts an extra
disclaimer on the feedback area explaining that postal delays are not our fault.

It doesn't even need to be permanent. Just something official. They aren't
reading our terms disclaimers.


Open to any input on this.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 20:11
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 80009-1
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axaday (7301)

Location:  USA, Oklahoma
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 80009  Name: Pigsy's Food Truck
* 
80009-1 (Inv) Pigsy's Food Truck
808 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: Monkie Kid

* Add 1 Part 22886pb06 White Brick 1 x 2 x 3 with Chinese Logogram '菜单' (Menu), Noodles, Sausage and Bun Pattern (Sticker) - Set 80009 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 52031pb145 White Wedge 4 x 6 x 2/3 Triple Curved with Dark Pink and Magenta Pigsey and Flames Logo Pattern (Sticker) - Set 80009 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 87079pb715L White Tile 2 x 4 with White and Magenta Flames over Dark Pink Checkered Background Pattern Model Left Side (Sticker) - Set 80009 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 87079pb715R White Tile 2 x 4 with White and Magenta Flames over Dark Pink Checkered Background Pattern Model Right Side (Sticker) - Set 80009 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 92262pb005 White Door 1 x 3 x 2 Left - Open Between Top and Bottom Hinge with Chinese Logogram '独家秘方' (Exclusive Recipe) Pattern (Sticker) - Set 80009 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 92263pb005 White Door 1 x 3 x 2 Right - Open Between Top and Bottom Hinge with Chinese Logogram '独家秘方' (Exclusive Recipe) Pattern (Sticker) - Set 80009 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 6180pb128L White Tile, Modified 4 x 6 with Studs on Edges with Chinese Logogram '美味至上' (Delicious, Be First) Pattern Model Left Side (Sticker) - Set 80009 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 6180pb128R White Tile, Modified 4 x 6 with Studs on Edges with Chinese Logogram '美味至上' (Delicious, Be First) Pattern Model Right Side (Sticker) - Set 80009 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 6178pb032L White Tile, Modified 6 x 12 with Studs on Edges with Pigsy and Chinese Logogram '老朱面馆' (Old Pig Noodle House) Pattern Model Left Side (Sticker) - Set 80009 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 6178pb032R White Tile, Modified 6 x 12 with Studs on Edges with Pigsy and Chinese Logogram '老朱面馆' (Old Pig Noodle House) Pattern Model Right Side (Sticker) - Set 80009 (Counterpart)
 Author: WhiteHorseMatt View Messages Posted By WhiteHorseMatt
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 17:43
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WhiteHorseMatt (1422)

Location:  United Kingdom, England
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In Suggestions, Adjour writes:
  I've been getting more and more messages from buyers wanting to know where
on earth their parcels are.


I've already gotten a neutral over this and I'm sure more are to come.
I know that allowing removals of these negs is a slippery slope so I wont go
there.


I'm suggesting that until the covid crisis is over that BL puts an extra
disclaimer on the feedback area explaining that postal delays are not our fault.

It doesn't even need to be permanent. Just something official. They aren't
reading our terms disclaimers.


Open to any input on this.

I do agree with you.

I also feel to a certain degree that us sending out thousands of packages of
kids toy parts a day using a highly stressed postal system, is bringing problems
upon ourselves.
 Author: enig View Messages Posted By enig
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 17:25
 Subject: Re: We need protection from postal delay negs
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enig (6329)

Location:  Lithuania, Panevėžys
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Store: enigma bricks - CHEAP S&H!
  Open to any input on this.

YES
 Author: SnarkBricks View Messages Posted By SnarkBricks
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 17:19
 Subject: Pls. change verbiage on "Send Invoice" header
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SnarkBricks (9790)

Location:  USA, Massachusetts
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Send Invoice Header

Current verbiage noted to Sellers: "You may resend the same invoice without affecting
the original invoice date. Sending "AND" invoice with changes to order prices
will update the invoice date. Please note "THE" the updated invoice date may
affect when an NPB can be filed.

Please change "and" in quotes to: an
Please change the 1st "the" to: that

Thanks.
 Author: Adjour View Messages Posted By Adjour
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 17:12
 Subject: We need protection from postal delay negs
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Adjour (2456)

Location:  USA, Tennessee
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Store: The Chili is a Bit Spicy
I've been getting more and more messages from buyers wanting to know where
on earth their parcels are.


I've already gotten a neutral over this and I'm sure more are to come.
I know that allowing removals of these negs is a slippery slope so I wont go
there.


I'm suggesting that until the covid crisis is over that BL puts an extra
disclaimer on the feedback area explaining that postal delays are not our fault.

It doesn't even need to be permanent. Just something official. They aren't
reading our terms disclaimers.


Open to any input on this.
 Author: Ruinol View Messages Posted By Ruinol
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 15:04
 Subject: Re: Not being able to recognize what this is from
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Ruinol (1)

Location:  Netherlands, Zuid-Holland
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In Catalog, Adjour writes:
  In Catalog, Ruinol writes:
  Anyone that knows from which set it comes, thanx!!! But maybe it's just (part
of) a MOC

set 6352...I think

THANKS ALL!! I ve got it. Well, not complete, but thats ok ))
 Author: taxan View Messages Posted By taxan
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 14:09
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taxan (145)

Location:  Sweden, Västernorrland
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In Catalog, Ruinol writes:
  Anyone that knows from which set it comes, thanx!!! But maybe it's just (part
of) a MOC

 
Set No: 6481  Name: Construction Crew
* 
6481-1 (Inv) Construction Crew
166 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1989
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Construction
 Author: FWSauerteig View Messages Posted By FWSauerteig
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 13:26
 Subject: Uploading parts list from 31109
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FWSauerteig (3)

Location:  USA, New York
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So I have downloaded the instructions for 31109, and wondered how I could upload
the parts list in order to obtain parts to build the tavern. I want to do a Moc
based on the tavern to use with the island parts left over from Pirates of Barricuda
Bay with the ship built properly. Thanks.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 13:09
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randyf (442)

Location:  USA, Ohio
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In Inventories, FWSauerteig writes:
  So I have downloaded the instructions for 31109, and wondered how I could upload
the parts list in order to obtain parts to build the tavern. I want to do a Moc
based on the tavern to use with the island parts left over from Pirates of Barricuda
Bay with the ship built properly. Thanks.

The inventory is being worked on by another BrickLink member right now. I would
estimate that the inventory will be available within the week, and then you could
use that inventory to part out the set into a wanted list.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 13:05
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randyf (442)

Location:  USA, Ohio
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In Catalog, Ruinol writes:
  Anyone that knows from which set it comes, thanx!!! But maybe it's just (part
of) a MOC

 
Set No: 6352  Name: Cargomaster Crane
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6352-1 (Inv) Cargomaster Crane
134 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1991
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Construction
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Location:  USA, New York
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So I have downloaded the instructions for 31109, and wondered how I could upload
the parts list in order to obtain parts to build the tavern. I want to do a Moc
based on the tavern to use with the island parts left over from Pirates of Barricuda
Bay with the ship built properly. Thanks.
 Author: Adjour View Messages Posted By Adjour
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 13:03
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Adjour (2456)

Location:  USA, Tennessee
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In Catalog, Ruinol writes:
  Anyone that knows from which set it comes, thanx!!! But maybe it's just (part
of) a MOC

set 6352...I think
 Author: Ruinol View Messages Posted By Ruinol
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 12:57
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Anyone that knows from which set it comes, thanx!!! But maybe it's just (part
of) a MOC
 


 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 12:50
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 75055-1
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SylvainLS (46)

Location:  France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
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In Inventories Requests, btroup1950 writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 75055  Name: Imperial Star Destroyer
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75055-1 (Inv) Imperial Star Destroyer
1325 Parts, 7 Minifigures, 1 Gear, 2014
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6

* Add 2 Part 4081b Dark Bluish Gray Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Thick Ring
* Add 4 Part 4073 Black Plate, Round 1 x 1
* Add 2 Part 54200 Black Slope 30 1 x 1 x 2/3
* Add 1 Part 47905 Black Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Studs on 2 Sides, Opposite

Comments from Submitter:
These parts are listed on the inventory pages at back of instruction book.

They are already there, in
 
Minifig No: sw0156  Name: Mouse Droid (MSE-6-series Repair Droid) - Black / Dark Bluish Gray
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sw0156 (Inv) Mouse Droid (MSE-6-series Repair Droid) - Black / Dark Bluish Gray
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 12:49
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randyf (442)

Location:  USA, Ohio
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In Inventories Requests, btroup1950 writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 75055  Name: Imperial Star Destroyer
* 
75055-1 (Inv) Imperial Star Destroyer
1325 Parts, 7 Minifigures, 1 Gear, 2014
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6

* Add 2 Part 4081b Dark Bluish Gray Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Thick Ring
* Add 4 Part 4073 Black Plate, Round 1 x 1
* Add 2 Part 54200 Black Slope 30 1 x 1 x 2/3
* Add 1 Part 47905 Black Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Studs on 2 Sides, Opposite

Comments from Submitter:
These parts are listed on the inventory pages at back of instruction book.

Those are the parts for the Mouse Droid figure listed in the inventory, so they
are already included.

 
Minifig No: sw0156  Name: Mouse Droid (MSE-6-series Repair Droid) - Black / Dark Bluish Gray
* 
sw0156 (Inv) Mouse Droid (MSE-6-series Repair Droid) - Black / Dark Bluish Gray
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6

These requests will not be accepted.

Cheers,
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btroup1950 (1428)

Location:  USA, Virginia
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 75055  Name: Imperial Star Destroyer
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75055-1 (Inv) Imperial Star Destroyer
1325 Parts, 7 Minifigures, 1 Gear, 2014
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6

* Add 2 Part 4081b Dark Bluish Gray Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Thick Ring
* Add 4 Part 4073 Black Plate, Round 1 x 1
* Add 2 Part 54200 Black Slope 30 1 x 1 x 2/3
* Add 1 Part 47905 Black Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Studs on 2 Sides, Opposite

Comments from Submitter:
These parts are listed on the inventory pages at back of instruction book.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 12:41
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8641-1
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randyf (442)

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In Inventories Requests, BricksThatStick writes:

  
  Comments from Submitter:
When it is a multi-colored SOA - do you select the color that has the most % of being in the part? Or should it be a N/A color?


We have both ways in that category so far but there have only been 2 examples
previously.

This is one with N/A as the color:

 
Part No: BA140pb01  Name: Stickered Assembly 10 x 4 x 1 with Black and Yellow Danger Stripes Pattern (Sticker) - Set 622 - 2 Black Plate 2 x 10, 1 Black Plate 2 x 2, 1 Yellow Plate 2 x 4, 1 Yellow Vehicle, Mudguard 2 x 4 with Arch Smooth, 1 Yellow Vehicle, Mudguard 2 x 4 with Arch Studded
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BA140pb01 Stickered Assembly 10 x 4 x 1 with Black and Yellow Danger Stripes Pattern (Sticker) - Set 622 - 2 Black Plate 2 x 10, 1 Black Plate 2 x 2, 1 Yellow Plate 2 x 4, 1 Yellow Vehicle, Mudguard 2 x 4 with Arch Smooth, 1 Yellow Vehicle, Mudguard 2 x 4 with Arch Studded
Parts: Stickered Assembly

But this was added as red:

 
Part No: BA107pb01  Name: Stickered Assembly 8 x 8 x 1 with '14 CHALLENGE' and Ferrari Logo Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8143 - 1 Slope 10 6 x 8, 2 Tile 1 x 8
* 
BA107pb01 Stickered Assembly 8 x 8 x 1 with '14 CHALLENGE' and Ferrari Logo Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8143 - 1 Slope 10 6 x 8, 2 Tile 1 x 8
Parts: Stickered Assembly

We should decide one way or the other though - N/A makes the most sense I think

Yes. If the part is not all one color, then N/A. Easy and simple.
 Author: electricbaer View Messages Posted By electricbaer
 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 11:58
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Location:  USA, North Carolina
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8641  Name: Flame Glider
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8641-1 (Inv) Flame Glider
54 Parts, 2005
Sets: Racers: Tiny Turbos

* Add 1 Part BA144pb01 (Not Applicable) Stickered Assembly 1 x 2 x 1 2/3 with White Number 2 on Black and Orange Checkered Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8641 - 1 Brick, Modified 1 x 2 x 1 1/3 with Curved Top, 1 Plate 1 x 1 (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
Resubmitting as N/A color
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In Inventories Requests, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Inventories Requests, electricbaer writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8641  Name: Flame Glider
* 
8641-1 (Inv) Flame Glider
54 Parts, 2005
Sets: Racers: Tiny Turbos

* Add 1 Part BA144pb01 Orange Stickered Assembly 1 x 2 x 1 2/3 with White Number 2 on Black and Orange Checkered Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8641 - 1 Brick, Modified 1 x 2 x 1 1/3 with Curved Top, 1 Plate 1 x 1 (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
When it is a multi-colored SOA - do you select the color that has the most % of being in the part? Or should it be a N/A color?


We have both ways in that category so far but there have only been 2 examples
previously.

This is one with N/A as the color:

 
Part No: BA140pb01  Name: Stickered Assembly 10 x 4 x 1 with Black and Yellow Danger Stripes Pattern (Sticker) - Set 622 - 2 Black Plate 2 x 10, 1 Black Plate 2 x 2, 1 Yellow Plate 2 x 4, 1 Yellow Vehicle, Mudguard 2 x 4 with Arch Smooth, 1 Yellow Vehicle, Mudguard 2 x 4 with Arch Studded
* 
BA140pb01 Stickered Assembly 10 x 4 x 1 with Black and Yellow Danger Stripes Pattern (Sticker) - Set 622 - 2 Black Plate 2 x 10, 1 Black Plate 2 x 2, 1 Yellow Plate 2 x 4, 1 Yellow Vehicle, Mudguard 2 x 4 with Arch Smooth, 1 Yellow Vehicle, Mudguard 2 x 4 with Arch Studded
Parts: Stickered Assembly

But this was added as red:

 
Part No: BA107pb01  Name: Stickered Assembly 8 x 8 x 1 with '14 CHALLENGE' and Ferrari Logo Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8143 - 1 Slope 10 6 x 8, 2 Tile 1 x 8
* 
BA107pb01 Stickered Assembly 8 x 8 x 1 with '14 CHALLENGE' and Ferrari Logo Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8143 - 1 Slope 10 6 x 8, 2 Tile 1 x 8
Parts: Stickered Assembly

We should decide one way or the other though - N/A makes the most sense I think

There's also this one:
 
Part No: BA097pb01  Name: Stickered Assembly 12 x 2 x 2/3 with 'AIRPORT' Pattern (Sticker) - Set 7894 - 1 Plate 2 x 12, 4 Tile 1 x 6
* 
BA097pb01 Stickered Assembly 12 x 2 x 2/3 with 'AIRPORT' Pattern (Sticker) - Set 7894 - 1 Plate 2 x 12, 4 Tile 1 x 6
Parts: Stickered Assembly
Which has its inventory change request still pending in color white. But I agree
that N/A is probably better for these multi-color assemblies.
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In Inventories Requests, BricksThatStick writes:
  
We should decide one way or the other though - N/A makes the most sense I think

Couldn't agree more - shall I resubmit as N/A?
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In Catalog, elias3 writes:
  In Catalog, jezurka writes:
  Hello

I find lego catalog which I can not find in BL inventory.
Code is 3245-Ju. Is seams it is print for Yugoslavia (language is Slovenian).
Does anyone know the year. In my opinion it is something around middle 60s.
I put picture.


Hi

Great found!

I did a quick look at the catalog and didn't found any Yugoslavian catalog.

Please add it to the catalog.
Start here:
https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp?catType=C

Also upload your picture.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page?itemType=C


Stefaan

Yes, this is a very rare item! The suffixes for catalogs were based on the Danish
spelling of the name during this time. "Jugoslavien" is what Google translate
gave me for Yugoslavia.

At some point earlier than this, the first 14 countries the LEGO Group shipped
to were all given numerical codes, from 01 to 14. I wonder which code this country
was given? The US is number 17:
 
Catalog No: c78us  Name: 1978 Large US (101017/101117-US)
* 
c78us 1978 Large US (101017/101117-US)
Catalogs: 1978
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In Inventories Requests, electricbaer writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8641  Name: Flame Glider
* 
8641-1 (Inv) Flame Glider
54 Parts, 2005
Sets: Racers: Tiny Turbos

* Add 1 Part BA144pb01 Orange Stickered Assembly 1 x 2 x 1 2/3 with White Number 2 on Black and Orange Checkered Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8641 - 1 Brick, Modified 1 x 2 x 1 1/3 with Curved Top, 1 Plate 1 x 1 (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
When it is a multi-colored SOA - do you select the color that has the most % of being in the part? Or should it be a N/A color?


We have both ways in that category so far but there have only been 2 examples
previously.

This is one with N/A as the color:

 
Part No: BA140pb01  Name: Stickered Assembly 10 x 4 x 1 with Black and Yellow Danger Stripes Pattern (Sticker) - Set 622 - 2 Black Plate 2 x 10, 1 Black Plate 2 x 2, 1 Yellow Plate 2 x 4, 1 Yellow Vehicle, Mudguard 2 x 4 with Arch Smooth, 1 Yellow Vehicle, Mudguard 2 x 4 with Arch Studded
* 
BA140pb01 Stickered Assembly 10 x 4 x 1 with Black and Yellow Danger Stripes Pattern (Sticker) - Set 622 - 2 Black Plate 2 x 10, 1 Black Plate 2 x 2, 1 Yellow Plate 2 x 4, 1 Yellow Vehicle, Mudguard 2 x 4 with Arch Smooth, 1 Yellow Vehicle, Mudguard 2 x 4 with Arch Studded
Parts: Stickered Assembly

But this was added as red:

 
Part No: BA107pb01  Name: Stickered Assembly 8 x 8 x 1 with '14 CHALLENGE' and Ferrari Logo Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8143 - 1 Slope 10 6 x 8, 2 Tile 1 x 8
* 
BA107pb01 Stickered Assembly 8 x 8 x 1 with '14 CHALLENGE' and Ferrari Logo Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8143 - 1 Slope 10 6 x 8, 2 Tile 1 x 8
Parts: Stickered Assembly

We should decide one way or the other though - N/A makes the most sense I think
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Set No: 8681  Name: Tuner Garage
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8681-1 (Inv) Tuner Garage
652 Parts, 2006
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* Add 1 Part BA145pb01 White Stickered Assembly 3 x 2 x 5 with 'HAiDO' Pattern Model Left Side (Sticker) - Set 8681 - 2 Bricks 1 x 2 x 5 (Counterpart)
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In Catalog, jezurka writes:
  Hello

I find lego catalog which I can not find in BL inventory.
Code is 3245-Ju. Is seams it is print for Yugoslavia (language is Slovenian).
Does anyone know the year. In my opinion it is something around middle 60s.
I put picture.


Hi

Great found!

I did a quick look at the catalog and didn't found any Yugoslavian catalog.

Please add it to the catalog.
Start here:
https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp?catType=C

Also upload your picture.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page?itemType=C


Stefaan
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8641  Name: Flame Glider
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8641-1 (Inv) Flame Glider
54 Parts, 2005
Sets: Racers: Tiny Turbos

* Add 1 Part BA144pb01 Orange Stickered Assembly 1 x 2 x 1 2/3 with White Number 2 on Black and Orange Checkered Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8641 - 1 Brick, Modified 1 x 2 x 1 1/3 with Curved Top, 1 Plate 1 x 1 (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
When it is a multi-colored SOA - do you select the color that has the most % of being in the part? Or should it be a N/A color?
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In Catalog, jezurka writes:
  Hello

I find lego catalog which I can not find in BL inventory.
Code is 3245-Ju. Is seams it is print for Yugoslavia (language is Slovenian).
Does anyone know the year. In my opinion it is something around middle 60s.
I put picture.^

Yes, it's from 1967. Here is a side from a German catalogue.
 
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In Catalog, jezurka writes:
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I find lego catalog which I can not find in BL inventory.
Code is 3245-Ju. Is seams it is print for Yugoslavia (language is Slovenian).
Does anyone know the year. In my opinion it is something around middle 60s.
I put picture.

It is probably 1967. I say that because of the set 331 in the picture.
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Set No: 75150  Name: Vader's TIE Advanced vs. A-Wing Starfighter
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75150-1 (Inv) Vader's TIE Advanced vs. A-Wing Starfighter
684 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2016
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Rebels

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In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
  […]
As far as I can tell the Lego part number is 4275491 and so if Lego uses this
same part code for all its set appearances then it must be a misprint. I guess
the only way to be sure would be to try using Legos Broken/missing parts service
and then painstakingly check all the sets it appears in and check the toros part
number is the same for all. […]

LEGO uses the same element ID for different variants and prints.

E.g. according to BL,
 
Part No: 3626bpb0203  Name: Minifigure, Head Dark Bluish Gray Moustache and Bushy Eyebrows, Black Cheek Lines, White Pupils Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
* 
3626bpb0203 Minifigure, Head Dark Bluish Gray Moustache and Bushy Eyebrows, Black Cheek Lines, White Pupils Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
 
Part No: 3626bpb0357  Name: Minifigure, Head Reddish Brown Moustache and Bushy Eyebrows, Black Cheek Lines, White Pupils Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
* 
3626bpb0357 Minifigure, Head Reddish Brown Moustache and Bushy Eyebrows, Black Cheek Lines, White Pupils Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
 
Part No: 3626cpb0357  Name: Minifigure, Head Reddish Brown Moustache and Bushy Eyebrows, Black Cheek Lines, White Pupils Pattern - Hollow Stud
* 
3626cpb0357 Minifigure, Head Reddish Brown Moustache and Bushy Eyebrows, Black Cheek Lines, White Pupils Pattern - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
share the PCC 4524911.

(Happy example with both colour and variant differences. Grey/brown is not a
misprint.)

So you wouldn’t know whether it’s a misprint or a new “revised” print.

I’m sure there will be some anomalies but in your example whilst you are correct
that the brown and grey are intentional print differences and not misprints I
don’t think they actually share the same part number it’s just bricklink has
made it seem that way and for understandable reasons...

So all of the decorated parts (with their own TLG numbers) must be renumbered
because for sure TLG does not number all of the decorated 1 x 2 tiles the same
number with an pb extension - they give each one a different number as best I
know. And then only keep the number available for a little while and do not supply
it for parts from collectible minifigs etc etc.

  
The problem is Lego did some weird stuff back in that era where they merged some
head and torsos together using one single part number!? See Brickset link which
shows the combined part (Grey + Torso) as 4227735 and not 4524911

https://brickset.com/parts/4227735/mini-upper-part-no-970

So we are definitely looking at a different part in that instance but if you
search for 4227735 on Bricklink it doesn’t appear probably because a merger of
parts like this wouldn’t have fit in with the way BL do things hence why they
probably just used the same code as the brown version?

As for Lego using the same part number for mold variants this is another example
of where Lego themselves never intended anyone to take those differences so literally

Hmm, no, the example of jumper studs was given already. It is not a matter of
being anal to recognise mold differences. You can try it yourself with this part:
 
Part No: 48183  Name: Wedge, Plate 3 x 4 with Stud Notches
* 
48183 Wedge, Plate 3 x 4 with Stud Notches
Parts: Wedge, Plate
Newer parts clutches, older ones fall off. I would like to think that TLG intended
that improvement, that they stopped making the old part becasue it was not doing
the job it was supposed to do and that the new part should be sold with new sets.
However, the old part came in older sets and what will you do if a buyer tells
you the old part you sent him is a fake becasue there is no way for him to know
otherwise?

  because in Legos eyes whatever stud type was used it’s still the same part number
and it’s the all-important and relevant print decal that warrants a different
part code so in my view it’s just unfortunate the BL community has gone to such
lengths to essentially separate the same parts when most people just want the
correct print decal and don’t really care which mold was used!

I have no idea what TLG's intentions are with mold changes and mold variants.
My question was posted in catalogue, not selling. You sell lots, not catalogue
entries. You can refer to the catalogue entry in your listing, you could also
use the catalogue image and you might even end up in the price guide for your
listing, but that all has nothing to do with the catalogue entry as reference
source, which is where my question was posted.

The only requirement BL has for you to list a lot with a refrence to the catalogue
entry, is that you must not mix new and used in the same lot. It is a general
selling offence to sell used as new in a lot, but generally not to mix variants.
So I do not think it unfortunate the catalogue can serve as a reference guide
but also as a sales tool. To do both qually well, will always be a challenge.

If every car manufacturer only makes white cars, there will be no other colours.
This does not mean that all consumers by default mostly want a white car, it
just means that car manufacturers are all the same and treat their customers
all the same, no matter what their customers might say or think.

What does happen in the BL listings though is that you frequenlty get a seller
who tells you that it is too much effort to list properly in variants, but price
their non-specific and incorrect unsorted parts at the high price for the scarcer
out of production part. In essence it is not too much work to look up the part
in priceguide, but it is too much work to list it properly. Strange - doing half
a job for the full gain.

  
As for the Black Torso in question, this is still quite a current part and the
OP should still be able to determine whether it’s a misprint or intended difference
from using brickset and/or Lego site as a reference source!

Nope, the differences in question arised in a certain time period, continued
for awhile and then stopped, as I have them from three different sets from three
different years, as I mentioned from 2008 - 2010. I also have the current catalogue
entry for that torso assembly from prior to that period and after that period.

I would agree that for reference purposes it would not even be important if it
occured in only one set at one time. I've had some misprints on tiles like
that and do not bother with it. This however, stood out for the reasons I gave
above.

The LEGO site does not keep its information nor keep a snapshot of the situation
as it was 10 years ago. The information you refer to is either:
1. kept current with current part numbers and current designs; or
2. Not a historical record of what happened.
The LEGO site is not a reference source by any stretch of the imaginaition as
it is designed as a site to sell current replacement parts, not serve as a reference
work (which is what a catalogue does).

And for reference purposes, the part in question was submitted as new entry.
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Hello

I find lego catalog which I can not find in BL inventory.
Code is 3245-Ju. Is seams it is print for Yugoslavia (language is Slovenian).
Does anyone know the year. In my opinion it is something around middle 60s.
I put picture.
 
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
  […]
As far as I can tell the Lego part number is 4275491 and so if Lego uses this
same part code for all its set appearances then it must be a misprint. I guess
the only way to be sure would be to try using Legos Broken/missing parts service
and then painstakingly check all the sets it appears in and check the toros part
number is the same for all. […]

LEGO uses the same element ID for different variants and prints.

E.g. according to BL,
 
Part No: 3626bpb0203  Name: Minifigure, Head Dark Bluish Gray Moustache and Bushy Eyebrows, Black Cheek Lines, White Pupils Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
* 
3626bpb0203 Minifigure, Head Dark Bluish Gray Moustache and Bushy Eyebrows, Black Cheek Lines, White Pupils Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
 
Part No: 3626bpb0357  Name: Minifigure, Head Reddish Brown Moustache and Bushy Eyebrows, Black Cheek Lines, White Pupils Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
* 
3626bpb0357 Minifigure, Head Reddish Brown Moustache and Bushy Eyebrows, Black Cheek Lines, White Pupils Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
 
Part No: 3626cpb0357  Name: Minifigure, Head Reddish Brown Moustache and Bushy Eyebrows, Black Cheek Lines, White Pupils Pattern - Hollow Stud
* 
3626cpb0357 Minifigure, Head Reddish Brown Moustache and Bushy Eyebrows, Black Cheek Lines, White Pupils Pattern - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
share the PCC 4524911.

(Happy example with both colour and variant differences. Grey/brown is not a
misprint.)

So you wouldn’t know whether it’s a misprint or a new “revised” print.

I’m sure there will be some anomalies but in your example whilst you are correct
that the brown and grey are intentional print differences and not misprints I
don’t think they actually share the same part number it’s just bricklink has
made it seem that way and for understandable reasons...

The problem is Lego did some weird stuff back in that era where they merged some
head and torsos together using one single part number!? See Brickset link which
shows the combined part (Grey + Torso) as 4227735 and not 4524911

https://brickset.com/parts/4227735/mini-upper-part-no-970

So we are definitely looking at a different part in that instance but if you
search for 4227735 on Bricklink it doesn’t appear probably because a merger of
parts like this wouldn’t have fit in with the way BL do things hence why they
probably just used the same code as the brown version?

As for Lego using the same part number for mold variants this is another example
of where Lego themselves never intended anyone to take those differences so literally
because in Legos eyes whatever stud type was used it’s still the same part number
and it’s the all-important and relevant print decal that warrants a different
part code so in my view it’s just unfortunate the BL community has gone to such
lengths to essentially separate the same parts when most people just want the
correct print decal and don’t really care which mold was used!

As for the Black Torso in question, this is still quite a current part and the
OP should still be able to determine whether it’s a misprint or intended difference
from using brickset and/or Lego site as a reference source!
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Set No: 9702  Name: Control System Building Set
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9702-1 (Inv) Control System Building Set
213 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 4 Books, 2 Gear, 1993
Sets: Educational & Dacta: Technic: Control Lab

* Add 2 Part 3033 Yellow Plate 6 x 10

Comments from Submitter:
Current quantity is 1, which matches the inventory card, but the lift model requires 2.

There must be different versions of the inventory card. I've attached the
inventory from the cardboard box version (first picture) and the 9702-2 Elevator
World version (second picture). Both show two plates.

Can you upload a picture of the inventory card you have that only shows one plate?
 


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Set No: 162  Name: Locomotive without Motor
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162-1 (Inv) Locomotive without Motor
212 Parts, 1977
Sets: Train: 4.5V

* Add 2 Part 3062b Black Brick, Round 1 x 1 Open Stud (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Black 3062a Brick, Round 1 x 1 Solid Stud {match ID 0 to 1}

More photos of this later release
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1201253
 










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 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 04:25
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 162  Name: Locomotive without Motor
* 
162-1 (Inv) Locomotive without Motor
212 Parts, 1977
Sets: Train: 4.5V

* Add 2 Part 3062b Black Brick, Round 1 x 1 Open Stud (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Black 3062a Brick, Round 1 x 1 Solid Stud {match ID 0 to 1}
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 162  Name: Locomotive without Motor
* 
162-1 (Inv) Locomotive without Motor
212 Parts, 1977
Sets: Train: 4.5V

* Delete 2 Part bb0037 Black Train Brick 2 x 4 x 1 1/3 Sliding Block with Wheels Holder
* Add 2 Part bb0037b Black Train Brick 2 x 4 x 1 1/3 Sliding Block with Wheels Holder, Type b with Ledge
* Add 1 Part 3024 Yellow Plate 1 x 1 (Extra)
* Change {2 to 4} Part Red 3024 Plate 1 x 1
* Change {4 to 6} Part Yellow 3660 Slope, Inverted 45 2 x 2
* Change {7 to 8} Part Yellow 3009 Brick 1 x 6
* Change {2 to 4} Part Black 3009 Brick 1 x 6
* Change {11 to 12} Part Black 3022 Plate 2 x 2
* Change {7 to 8} Part Black 3021 Plate 2 x 3

Comments from Submitter:
The evidence will be uploaded gradually (and maybe not very soon)

The Lego catalog

98763-EU
 
Catalog No: m77eu  Name: 1977 Mini European 47 (98763-EU)
* 
m77eu 1977 Mini European 47 (98763-EU)
Catalogs: 1977
from 1977 was included in the box.
One extra yellow plate
 
Part No: 3024  Name: Plate 1 x 1
* 
3024 Plate 1 x 1
Parts: Plate
was included. I did not find any use of a third 1*1 plate in any of the alternate
models so it should be an extra.

Hey Randy,

You mentioned "symmetry" here,
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1186509

Now we have a serious problem, because of "symmetry". What can we do?!

My new copy came with three
 
Part No: 3024  Name: Plate 1 x 1
* 
3024 Plate 1 x 1
Parts: Plate {Yellow}
and four
 
Part No: 3024  Name: Plate 1 x 1
* 
3024 Plate 1 x 1
Parts: Plate {Red}
Four red 1*1 plates are apparently needed to build this alternate model
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1186318

My new copy is a very early version because the instructions has a mistake. This
mistake is corrected on the instructions of my other used copy! See photo attached.(the
mistake is on step 7, a 1*2 black plate is put but no part is underneath to hold
it.)

I requested a collector who has this copy in new condition to check everything
that I submitted in this request. Everything matched in his copy too (good) but
the red and yellow plates (oh no!). In his copy, there are three
 
Part No: 3024  Name: Plate 1 x 1
* 
3024 Plate 1 x 1
Parts: Plate {Red}
and four
 
Part No: 3024  Name: Plate 1 x 1
* 
3024 Plate 1 x 1
Parts: Plate {Yellow}
Did one plate fall off the box in my or his copy (or both)? Not likely.
The other thing that is different in his copy is the trainrims that are loose,
instead of being assembled to
 
Part No: wheel2ac01  Name: Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
* 
wheel2ac01 (Inv) Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
Parts: Wheel & Tire Assembly {White}
The instructions in his copy is the later copy (since that mistake is corrected
on it.)

Two 1*1 red plates are needed for that alternate model. So I do not know should
be done here.
 














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 Posted: Jun 2, 2020 03:19
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 396-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 396  Name: Thatcher Perkins Locomotive
* 
396-1 (Inv) Thatcher Perkins Locomotive
438 Parts, 1976
Sets: Hobby Sets

* Delete 1 Part wheel2a Black Train Wheel Spoked for Motor
* Add 1 Part wheel2ac01 Black Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)

Comments from Submitter:
see the discussion
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1201245
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Inventories Requests, anathema writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 396  Name: Thatcher Perkins Locomotive
* 
396-1 (Inv) Thatcher Perkins Locomotive
438 Parts, 1976
Sets: Hobby Sets

* Add 1 Part trainrim Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels

Comments from Submitter:
Clearly visible in the instructions

It's probably this part, since rim and wheel usually came together at this
point in time:
 
Part No: wheel2ac01  Name: Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
* 
wheel2ac01 (Inv) Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
Parts: Wheel & Tire Assembly {Black}

See here:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1159848

This set is from 1976 and I know the sets such as
 
Set No: 183  Name: Complete Train Set with Motor and Signal
* 
183-1 (Inv) Complete Train Set with Motor and Signal
183 Parts, 1976
Sets: Train: 4.5V
 
Set No: 162  Name: Locomotive without Motor
* 
162-1 (Inv) Locomotive without Motor
212 Parts, 1977
Sets: Train: 4.5V
came with
 
Part No: wheel2ac01  Name: Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
* 
wheel2ac01 (Inv) Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
Parts: Wheel & Tire Assembly {Black}
but later releases of
 
Set No: 162  Name: Locomotive without Motor
* 
162-1 (Inv) Locomotive without Motor
212 Parts, 1977
Sets: Train: 4.5V

Correction:
The 12v train sets such as
 
Set No: 7750  Name: Steam Engine
* 
7750-1 (Inv) Steam Engine
254 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V
 
Set No: 7740  Name: Inter-City Passenger Train
* 
7740-1 (Inv) Inter-City Passenger Train
746 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V
came first trainrims assembled to train wheels.
The trainsrims were separate from middle wheels
 
Part No: bb0012v2  Name: Train Wheel, Middle Wheel for 12V Motor
* 
bb0012v2 Train Wheel, Middle Wheel for 12V Motor
Parts: Wheel
since late 1980, but still assembled to all four wheels of
[s=bb0012va]
Later (1981? 1982?) all trainrims came loose in any 12v or 4.5v train.

  So we know that this set 396-1 came with
 
Part No: wheel2ac01  Name: Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
* 
wheel2ac01 (Inv) Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
Parts: Wheel & Tire Assembly {Black}
but it is possible that later releases came with
 
Part No: wheel2a  Name: Train Wheel Spoked for Motor
* 
wheel2a Train Wheel Spoked for Motor
Parts: Wheel {Black}

I would not this is not likely.

  not pre-assembled
 
Part No: trainrim  Name: Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels
* 
trainrim Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels
Parts: Wheel, Tire & Tread {Black}

I will upload more photos for this inventory change request for 162-1:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1185970
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:

  Since the minifigures in the BrickLink catalog are correct according to the real
instructions, the set packaging, and the official set images, the digital instructions
are obviously incorrect.

The inventory change request will not be accepted.

An inventory note has been added to the set to document this mistake in the digital
instructions.

Cheers,
Randy