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 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 13, 2020 11:49
 Subject: Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2.
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StormChaser (566)

Location:  USA, Oklahoma
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.

They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.

Sorry, Marek, I wasn't picking on you or anyone else and I hope I didn't
make it appear that way. I understand language barriers.

The problem with pattern 1/pattern 2 parts is that it's difficult to even
locate them by searching. One has to scan through entire parts categories to
even find pattern 1/pattern 2 titles.

Perhaps this could be made into a community project of locating and retitling
these kinds of parts with slightly more descriptive titles.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Jan 13, 2020 11:45
 Subject: Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2.
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axaday (7301)

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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  
 
Part No: 3004pb192  Name: Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Right Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
* 
3004pb192 Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Right Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
Parts: Brick, Decorated
 
Part No: 3004pb193  Name: Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Left Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
* 
3004pb193 Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Left Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
Parts: Brick, Decorated

These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.

They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.

Is it actually the same sticker upside-down?
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Jan 13, 2020 11:42
 Subject: Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2.
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Hygrotus (869)

Location:  Poland, w. Wielkopolskie
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  
 
Part No: 3004pb192  Name: Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Right Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
* 
3004pb192 Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Right Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
Parts: Brick, Decorated
 
Part No: 3004pb193  Name: Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Left Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
* 
3004pb193 Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Left Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
Parts: Brick, Decorated

These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.

They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 13, 2020 11:34
 Subject: Pattern 1. Pattern 2.
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StormChaser (566)

Location:  USA, Oklahoma
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There seems to be an increasing trend of identifying patterned parts by simply
calling them Pattern 1 and Pattern 2. Here are three random examples of recent
parts, but I could go on for a while.

 
Part No: 60483pb003  Name: Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 2 - Axle Hole with Warning Sign 1 Pattern (Sticker) - Set 42054
* 
60483pb003 Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 2 - Axle Hole with Warning Sign 1 Pattern (Sticker) - Set 42054
Parts: Technic, Liftarm, Decorated
 
Part No: 60483pb004  Name: Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 2 - Axle Hole with Warning Sign 2 Pattern (Sticker) - Set 42054
* 
60483pb004 Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 2 - Axle Hole with Warning Sign 2 Pattern (Sticker) - Set 42054
Parts: Technic, Liftarm, Decorated

 
Part No: 3004pb192  Name: Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Right Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
* 
3004pb192 Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Right Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
Parts: Brick, Decorated
 
Part No: 3004pb193  Name: Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Left Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
* 
3004pb193 Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Left Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
Parts: Brick, Decorated

 
Part No: 11203pb048  Name: Tile, Modified 2 x 2 Inverted with Black and White Machine Pattern 1 (Sticker) - Set 10266
* 
11203pb048 Tile, Modified 2 x 2 Inverted with Black and White Machine Pattern 1 (Sticker) - Set 10266
Parts: Tile, Modified, Decorated
 
Part No: 11203pb049  Name: Tile, Modified 2 x 2 Inverted with Black and White Machine Pattern 2 (Sticker) - Set 10266
* 
11203pb049 Tile, Modified 2 x 2 Inverted with Black and White Machine Pattern 2 (Sticker) - Set 10266
Parts: Tile, Modified, Decorated

I would caution against this practice of non-descriptively titling items. In
fact, I was hoping the site would move away from things like this, not more toward.

Although I suppose we could greatly simplify all titles by simply going the Mini
Upper Part "No. 1470"
route that TLG uses.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Jan 12, 2020 17:12
 Subject: Re: Another inconsistency
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axaday (7301)

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In Catalog, dcarmine writes:
  Inconsistency is a pet peeve of my, so you know it's my last nerve on this
issue.

I haven't parted out much lately, but I got an opportunity to part out 3
of the 2019 Star Wars Advent Calendars

 
Set No: 75245  Name: Advent Calendar 2019, Star Wars
* 
75245-1 (Inv) Advent Calendar 2019, Star Wars
24 Sets, 2019
Sets: Holiday & Event: Advent: Star Wars

For the last 9 years TLC has included a Winter-ized SW figure in the 24th position
on the calendar. I saw that this last year was a Porg Santa. I didn't look
at the BL inventory to see how the subsets were being handled before I started.
I wanted to preserve the Porg Santa as a complete fig and part out all the other
"parts only" droids.

After finishing the sorting, I went to upload the part-out to BL. And that's
when I found it....Porg Santa was a part out...grrr. But the Gonk and Mouse
droids were left to sell whole...grrrr.

Who decides this stuff? How hard is it to be more consistent? I know there
is a lot of discussion about "What SW Droids are figures" and what are not.
But geesse, SMH.

Just my two cents.
Thanks for reading, no changes are expected.

Donna

I'm replying since there is a silent finger pointing me

I didn't decide. When I am doing an inventory and there is a controversial
issue, I ask ahead. Because I don't want to take and edit a picture and
then be asked to redo it. A Catalog Admin with a particular interest in Star
Wars guided me. But the rationale isn't really hard to follow. The mouse
droid and GONK droid in the 2019 calendar are very far from the first Mouse and
Gonk and all the others are minifigs. So they are handled like other minifigs.
But the porg and the mynock are not the first porg and mynock either. They
were both in
 
Set No: 75192  Name: Millennium Falcon - UCS {2nd edition}
* 
75192-1 (Inv) Millennium Falcon - UCS {2nd edition}
7513 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 2017
Sets: Star Wars: Ultimate Collector Series: Star Wars Other
where they are also listed as pieces and then counter
parted as complete assemblies. Just like the brick built animals in
 
Set No: 75952  Name: Newt's Case of Magical Creatures
* 
75952-1 (Inv) Newt's Case of Magical Creatures
678 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2018
Sets: Harry Potter: Fantastic Beasts
and the dragon in
 
Set No: 6007  Name: Bat Lord
* 
6007-1 (Inv) Bat Lord
11 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1997
Sets: Castle: Fright Knights
. As far as I know, dinosaurs are the only ones
that appear assembled in the main part of inventories. I don't know why
that is, but I think the answer to your question is just why isn't a porg
a minifig, right? I would have been glad to make it one, but the reason that
it isn't is because it is an animal.
 Author: dcarmine View Messages Posted By dcarmine
 Posted: Jan 12, 2020 15:25
 Subject: Another inconsistency
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Location:  USA, Nebraska
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Inconsistency is a pet peeve of my, so you know it's my last nerve on this
issue.

I haven't parted out much lately, but I got an opportunity to part out 3
of the 2019 Star Wars Advent Calendars

 
Set No: 75245  Name: Advent Calendar 2019, Star Wars
* 
75245-1 (Inv) Advent Calendar 2019, Star Wars
24 Sets, 2019
Sets: Holiday & Event: Advent: Star Wars

For the last 9 years TLC has included a Winter-ized SW figure in the 24th position
on the calendar. I saw that this last year was a Porg Santa. I didn't look
at the BL inventory to see how the subsets were being handled before I started.
I wanted to preserve the Porg Santa as a complete fig and part out all the other
"parts only" droids.

After finishing the sorting, I went to upload the part-out to BL. And that's
when I found it....Porg Santa was a part out...grrr. But the Gonk and Mouse
droids were left to sell whole...grrrr.

Who decides this stuff? How hard is it to be more consistent? I know there
is a lot of discussion about "What SW Droids are figures" and what are not.
But geesse, SMH.

Just my two cents.
Thanks for reading, no changes are expected.

Donna
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: Jan 12, 2020 01:01
 Subject: Re: catalogue problem - zero lots showing up
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, BasKrie writes:
  In Catalog, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Catalog, Yogi_007 writes:
  Hi All,

Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.

I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.

I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.

Whats going on ??

Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?

Help please

Yogi

The item doesn't show up in the items for sale.
I guess the Price Guide isn't shown in Real Time.
Maybe the items are in void of the payment process.

The items do show up in the items for sale

New (0) AFOL Supply (47562)
Netherlands
Min Buy: None EUR 7.21
(EUR 7.21)

New (0) Kentuckiana Bricks (27276)
USA
Min Buy: None EUR 5.86
(US $6.52)

These to sellers have a lot of zero quantity items.
It came up before in the forum (https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=260269)

It may have to do with the software they use to upload and sync their inventory.
This shouldn't be possible, however. Zero QTY lots should only be retained
in a stockroom.

And since it's one and the same company, they have the same software, which
probably sync both inventories at the same time.
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Jan 12, 2020 00:15
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In Catalog, BasKrie writes:
  In Catalog, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Catalog, Yogi_007 writes:
  Hi All,

Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.

I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.

I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.

Whats going on ??

Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?

Help please

Yogi

The item doesn't show up in the items for sale.
I guess the Price Guide isn't shown in Real Time.
Maybe the items are in void of the payment process.

The items do show up in the items for sale

New (0) AFOL Supply (47562)
Netherlands
Min Buy: None EUR 7.21
(EUR 7.21)

New (0) Kentuckiana Bricks (27276)
USA
Min Buy: None EUR 5.86
(US $6.52)

These to sellers have a lot of zero quantity items.
It came up before in the forum (https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=260269)

It may have to do with the software they use to upload and sync their inventory.
This shouldn't be possible, however. Zero QTY lots should only be retained
in a stockroom.
 Author: Yogi_007 View Messages Posted By Yogi_007
 Posted: Jan 11, 2020 21:01
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  Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
  some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.

I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.

I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.

Whats going on ??

Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?

Help please

Yogi

Some statistics of average price, total sold, total available et cetera are calculated
during the daily maintenance and hence may differ slightly from the actual items
for sale. This especially shows for rare items that have just been sold or added
to inventories.

Ive just checked the same part again today and same issue. So its not the updating
of daily maintenance.

Admin - another bug ?

Yogi
 Author: Vosblokjes View Messages Posted By Vosblokjes
 Posted: Jan 11, 2020 06:17
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In Catalog, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Catalog, Yogi_007 writes:
  Hi All,

Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.

I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.

I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.

Whats going on ??

Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?

Help please

Yogi

The item doesn't show up in the items for sale.
I guess the Price Guide isn't shown in Real Time.
Maybe the items are in void of the payment process.

The items do show up in the items for sale

New (0) AFOL Supply (47562)
Netherlands
Min Buy: None EUR 7.21
(EUR 7.21)

New (0) Kentuckiana Bricks (27276)
USA
Min Buy: None EUR 5.86
(US $6.52)

These to sellers have a lot of zero quantity items.
It came up before in the forum (https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=260269)

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