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 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
 Posted: Nov 9, 2018 17:24
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In Catalog, MidwestBrick writes:
  In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  https://img.bricklink.com/ItemImage/EXTN/1481.png?0

Clearly it's marbled in the set image.

You're right, it is. Perhaps the catalog admin should change this and consolidate
both parts under 53588pb01, in Dark Gray or Dark Bluish Gray, then?

And possibly purchase some items at those two stores to make amends?

I'll definitely send a message to the sellers I messaged before, to let them
know they should relist the parts appropriately. But I'm curious why you
think I'm in any way responsible for the catalog error or receiving refunds
for what I could only assume were mistakes? I was just going off of the catalog,
and it's only the difficulties during this last week that led me to believe
that the part might not exist in a non-marbled version.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Nov 9, 2018 17:11
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In Catalog, MidwestBrick writes:
  
  You're right, it is. Perhaps the catalog admin should change this and consolidate
both parts under 53588pb01, in Dark Gray or Dark Bluish Gray, then?

And possibly purchase some items at those two stores to make amends?

I believe it is asking a bit much that we purchase from stores whenever errors
are discovered in the catalog.

I am not wealthy and this is a volunteer position. If an error exists with this
part then I apologize, but that's about as much as my budget will allow.
 Author: MidwestBrick View Messages Posted By MidwestBrick
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In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  https://img.bricklink.com/ItemImage/EXTN/1481.png?0

Clearly it's marbled in the set image.

You're right, it is. Perhaps the catalog admin should change this and consolidate
both parts under 53588pb01, in Dark Gray or Dark Bluish Gray, then?

And possibly purchase some items at those two stores to make amends?
 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  https://img.bricklink.com/ItemImage/EXTN/1481.png?0

Clearly it's marbled in the set image.

You're right, it is. Perhaps the catalog admin should change this and consolidate
both parts under 53588pb01, in Dark Gray or Dark Bluish Gray, then?
 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
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Clearly it's marbled in the set image.
 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
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Hi everybody!

I've had quite an adventure trying to track down a copy of 53588 Dark Bluish
Gray Baseplate, Raised 16 x 16 No Studs with Cross Opening, 4 Holes.

I got an incomplete copy of 7739 in a Craigslist lot and wanted to complete it.
First, I bought 2 copies of 53588 from USA sellers early this year, but when
they arrived they both had the Red and Light Gray marbling described in the entry
for 53588pb01. The marbling is fairly subtle, so I didn't blame the sellers
for missing it, and they both gave me refunds.

Then I tried messaging every single North American seller who had a copy of 53588
listed to see if it was actually solid Dark Bluish Gray with no marbling. Many
never replied, but all took down their listings within a week. I was busy for
a few months, but over the last week I've messaged more sellers. Again, nothing.
Most sellers have taken down their listings, and the 3 that returned my messages
confirmed that there was marbling in their copies that they missed.

Now I'm starting to wonder if a solid-color 53588 with no marbling actually
exists. I've tried Google, Brickset, and other sources to find pictures of
the set, but no pictures show the part in high enough quality to confirm there's
no marbling -- except box and instruction artwork, which doesn't count.

The biggest thing that makes me suspect that a non-marbled piece doesn't
exist is that both of the marbled 53588pb01 copies I have are almost definitely
Dark Bluish Gray, not Dark Gray... but they still have marbling. According to
Bricklink, those pieces shouldn't exist. So perhaps the part was entered
incorrectly, and the old Dark Gray versions of the mold from 4 Bionicle sets
and the Dark Bluish Gray version in 7739 are all marbled?

Can anyone who owns 7739, especially a copy they built new, check to see if their
53588 from that set is marbled? And if any seller out there can confirm that
they have a non-marbled piece for sale, you will immediately get my business.

Thanks everyone!
-Jordy (Brickitty)
 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
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  Changing titles of certain dual-sided heads to reflect this fact and splitting
heads into single-side print and dual-side print categories.


Disagree. Dual-sided is not the same as printed front and back. Dual-sided means
there are two faces to choose from. Printed front and back means there are also
details printed on the back. To call one of these Dual is inaccurate. It is not
meant to be put on the minifig backwards.
I think Dual-sides should be left alone and any head with back printing get a
mention of it is the Name if possible. Most images already show this.

I think the head issue is going to require some additional thought. Some are
suggesting that splitting the heads into two categories will make things easier
to find. I'd suggest that is not always going to be the case. Splitting will
cut both ways. In some instances we have heads with hollow studs...and an alternate
with a blocked open stud. Also sometimes you have a pattern that is on a one-sided
head and the same pattern may be used on one side of a two-sided head.

If you have a head in hand, then, it probably will make finding the head marginally
easier.

If you do not have the head in hand, then you're compounding the complexity
of the search as you'll have to run the search against two categories. I
believe at the moment the BL search function restricts the user to one category
at a time for search. So, conceivably the search would have to be run twice:
once on "single-side heads" and again on "dual-side heads".

Then there are the non-head heads like
 
Part No: 3626bpb0091  Name: Minifigure, Head without Face with Alpha Team Arctic Red, Blue, Yellow Ogel Orb Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
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3626bpb0091 Minifigure, Head without Face with Alpha Team Arctic Red, Blue, Yellow Ogel Orb Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
 
Part No: 3626bpb0155  Name: Minifigure, Head without Face with Silver Swirls and Gold Bands Pattern (HP Remembrall) - Blocked Open Stud
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3626bpb0155 Minifigure, Head without Face with Silver Swirls and Gold Bands Pattern (HP Remembrall) - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
 
Part No: 3626bpx85  Name: Minifigure, Head without Face with Red Strawberries with Green Leaves Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
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3626bpx85 Minifigure, Head without Face with Red Strawberries with Green Leaves Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head

I'd suggest that this question of splitting heads may actually result in
splitting headaches somewhere down the road. I'm neither in the "for" or
"against" camp at this point, I'm in the "better think it through thoroughly"
camp.

  
  
Reorganizing/renumbering certain mini doll legs to reflect a change in production
methods.


However, you are opening up a nice can of worms here! Are you going to start
differentiating between printed patterns and molded patterns all over the catalog
or just here??

Well. Yeah. There's already some differentiation between printed and stickered
parts, and there ought to be some method of differentiating the printed and molded
parts. I'd wager that this also needs some extended consideration. Short
term, though, changing the descriptions would be moving in a positive direction.
I'd suggest that including the word "pattern" would indicate a printed piece
and the absence of "pattern" would indicate a molded piece. Or something along
those lines. At core, though, I think it's a similar issue as the stickered
vs. printed decorated parts.


  
  Splitting decorated/non-decorated minifigure legs.

Sure it is convenient! (But also easily achieved with a -pattern search??)

I don't know about "easily". Possibly "mostly". Only if the word "pattern"
is consistently used throughout the category in reference to those legs with
printing. And this raises the same issue as the mini doll legs being molded or
patterned...some minifig legs are dual-color molded and not otherwise decorated.
I don't know offhand if there are also dual color molded leg assemblies with
printing. Wonder Woman maybe?


  There should be a check box on every catalog search page to 'Hide Decorated Parts.'
Ta dah! Problem solved.

I imagine Jen is attempting some humor here, but from a practical standpoint
the database isn't structured such that it would be feasible to implement
in this fashion.

Whatever solutions arise, I believe it would be preferable to have these solutions
be more immediate and less convoluted...meaning that a newbie coming in here
could assess the situation without requiring deep intimate knowledge about all
the nuances of how a piece may be decorated to find it. If we need to explain
that one needs to search two sections of minifig heads or deal with three decoration
variables or whatever other complexities may be involved, then it's not a
great system. Some of the proposed changes I think are weighted to the hard-core
know-it-alls and less to the noobs.

The true solution undoubtedly lies in a new, built-from-scratch, relational underlying
database and part-specific search forms. I don't see those happening any
time soon.

So while I see pluses and minuses to the proposed changes, and given the current
state of the database, I'm probably leaning towards not splitting decorated
categories and creating a uniform code of description for the decorated parts.
Then one is not having to search through multiple decorated head or other categories.
As far as splitting non-decorated leg assemblies from decorated ones, sure. There's
precedent for that with many other parts.
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
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In Catalog Requests, dearlydeparted writes:
  I think this is a bad call, that complete assembly is necessary, but just my
2 cents, others may disagree. And absolutely not looking forward to wasting
the time to "undo" and reenter years worth of inventory.

"Hinge Brick 1 x 4 Swivel - Complete Assembly - (MARKED FOR DELETION)
Item No: 3830c01

This item was marked for deletion because it sets a precedent for adding dozens
of unnecessary combinations of hinges as assemblies to the catalog."

I understand the reason for the deletion of this part. But since it has been
in the catalog for a very very long time, and many people do use this listing,
I would be in favor in keeping in around for the sake of others, even though
I myself do not use it.
 Author: BricksThatStick View Messages Posted By BricksThatStick
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In Catalog Requests, tEoS writes:
  I realize that since you've been appointed many things are being accomplished/changed.
However, part of me is uncomfortable that Maggie or Ronald aren't at the
head of these discussions/changes, as if they are being side-stepped in this
process.

They have been performing these duties for a long-time and I think it would go
a long way to create credibility in these decisions, if they were the voice of
the catalog reorganization process.

I would assume/hope that behind the scenes there is private admin discussion/agreement
on the changes.

  
  Unfortunately, I've been rather busy in the last two weeks since I was appointed.
Until I get around to addressing this issue, part assemblies are kind of up
in the air.
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I realize that since you've been appointed many things are being accomplished/changed.
However, part of me is uncomfortable that Maggie or Ronald aren't at the
head of these discussions/changes, as if they are being side-stepped in this
process.

They have been performing these duties for a long-time and I think it would go
a long way to create credibility in these decisions, if they were the voice of
the catalog reorganization process.

  Unfortunately, I've been rather busy in the last two weeks since I was appointed.
Until I get around to addressing this issue, part assemblies are kind of up
in the air.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  The next catalog project consists of replacing all current photos of minifigures
with photos of the same minifigures on sport bikes. You can see this on the
Catalog Roadmap:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2473

Okay, not really. The (Other) project is winding down and next we're looking
at implementing some, if not all, of LordSkylark's suggestions. We need
to decide together how many of these (or maybe all of them?) we want to tackle.
Let's discuss them.

Reorganizing dual-colored molded arms.

My take: I'm good with this and it has been requested before. It will reduce
catalog entries from 23 to 11 entries for straight two-color arms. It will take
some work and I'm not sure about the exact logistics, but it can be done.

I always thought these arms should be classified by the color of the part of
the arm that attached to the minifigure, instead of classified by the color coming
'out' of the 'sleeve'. A big yes from me on this one.

  Adding individual decorated hips and legs.

My take: This is currently against policy. Policies can be changed, though.
My question would be this: is it necessary? Does anyone feel a burning need
to sell these parts? Have your buyers been requesting them? How many support
this and how strongly?

At first, my take on this would be a no due simply to the fact that the clips
on the hips are irreversibly damaged when the legs are taken off for the first
time (unlike arms from torsos). So hips alone would never be able to be sold
as new.

However, if the majority wants to have them and would list the parts correctly,
then I don't see why not.

In the end, I think the amount of work involved in this enormous task would outweigh
any benefit. Most people would just buy the legs assembly.

  Adding individual Technic figure parts.

My take: currently against policy, a policy which is not adhered to considering
that at least one of these is already in the catalog. I see little harm in it,
but again: how many want this and how badly?

Change the policy and include these. There are not many of them, and the workload
would be rather small. Also, people have asked for these many times over the
years.

  Changing titles of certain dual-sided heads to reflect this fact and splitting
heads into single-side print and dual-side print categories.


My take: I think these are good ideas, but am always willing to listen to dissenters.

I like the 'dual-sided' moniker for those heads which have a completely
different full-faced expression on each side. I am not for adding the moniker
to those heads with a face on only one side and, for example, just a few lines
on the other side to represent head creases or hair.

Splitting the head category into two for dual-sided and single-sided sounds like
a good idea.

  Reorganizing/renumbering certain mini doll legs to reflect a change in production
methods.


My take: I would like to see a detailed explanation of the exact issue to understand
it better. I believe one was posted somewhere, but it would be great if it could
be posted one last time in this thread so that we all have an idea of what this
would entail.

This is needed. I understand the issue having looked at these in person. Some
of the minidoll legs used to be molded in one color and then had a print added
to represent a second color (like for skin tones). The newer versions of those
legs are dual-molded, so that each color is a different plastic color with no
print needed. Certain minidolls only came with one of the two types, and it would
be nice to have the correct version of the legs in the inventories for the correct
figures.

  Splitting decorated/non-decorated minifigure legs.

My take: This one was not on the list for the original project, but I'm adding
it. There are over 1,400 items in the Minifig, Legs Assembly category and I
find it exceedingly difficult to find non-decorated legs in all that mess. Does
anyone else besides me feel like this would be a good split?

Yes. I find it almost impossible to find undecorated legs.

Cheers,
Randy
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  
Adding individual decorated hips and legs.


I think the legs are pretty much broken once they've come apart.

  

Changing titles of certain dual-sided heads to reflect this fact and splitting
heads into single-side print and dual-side print categories.


Disagree. Dual-sided is not the same as printed front and back. Dual-sided means
there are two faces to choose from. Printed front and back means there are also
details printed on the back. To call one of these Dual is inaccurate. It is not
meant to be put on the minifig backwards.
I think Dual-sides should be left alone and any head with back printing get a
mention of it is the Name if possible. Most images already show this.
  

Reorganizing/renumbering certain mini doll legs to reflect a change in production
methods.



This would help with the difference between
 
Part No: 92253c00pb01  Name: Mini Doll Hips and Trousers with Back Pockets with Tan Shoes Pattern - Thick Hinge
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92253c00pb01 Mini Doll Hips and Trousers with Back Pockets with Tan Shoes Pattern - Thick Hinge
Parts: Mini Doll, Legs
which has Tan printed shoes on Dark Blue plastic (despite it's
current description) and
[p=92253c00pb05] which is molded with Dark Blue and Tan plastic.

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=175562&nID=851127

However, you are opening up a nice can of worms here! Are you going to start
differentiating between printed patterns and molded patterns all over the catalog
or just here?? I do not envy you this task.

  
Splitting decorated/non-decorated minifigure legs.


Sure it is convenient! (But also easily achieved with a -pattern search??) There
should be a check box on every catalog search page to 'Hide Decorated Parts.'
Ta dah! Problem solved.

Thanks!
Jen
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   However, I see little point
in putting single and dual sided heads in different categories.

If you want to use a head either without hair / helmet /hat or with a short hair
/ hat that doesn't cover up the back print, it is very useful to just see
a list of single sided heads. Of course, you can search for "-dual" to help get
rid of the dual ones.
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In Catalog, Lauren_Luke writes:
  [1] Accessory, Human Tool - Rip Cords

The ' Accessory, Human Tool ' category has been created and it blurs
the line between a Part and Gear. I guess we should wait until all part categories
have been properly defined, however, the category has already been created and
rip cords have already been added. Therefore I suggest we move these gear ...

[g=ripcordcover1][g=ripcordcover2]

... as parts in the ' Accessory, Human Tool ' category. Also rename
them

" Human Tool, Rip Cord Handle Cover in Flexible Rubber with Lion Head for Chima
Speedorz "

and

" Human Tool, Rip Cord Handle Cover in Flexible Rubber with Crocodile Head for
Chima Speedorz "

, respectively.

I like this idea. Seconded.

Cheers,
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In Catalog, Lauren_Luke writes:
  I suggest a new category is created called 'Ephemera' and things like
competition forms and event guides from the ' (Other) ' category are
moved into there.

I like to think that a have a rather large vocabulary, and even I had to go and
look up the meaning for 'ephemera'. If one needs to look up the definition
for a category name, then I think that is a good indicator that the name is too
obtuse. I think two new categories called 'Competition Forms' and 'Event
Guides' would be rather nice and simple.

Cheers,
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Reorganizing dual-colored molded arms.


YES



  Adding individual decorated hips and legs.


NO


  
Adding individual Technic figure parts.


YES
Arms and legs can relatively easy be removed from a technic figure. I've
often found incomplete technic figures or just some parts of the arms or legs.


  
Changing titles of certain dual-sided heads to reflect this fact and splitting
heads into single-side print and dual-side print categories.



YES
More consistent naming is a good thing. And splitting into two categories is
also a good thing to make it easier to find an individual head.

  


  Reorganizing/renumbering certain mini doll legs to reflect a change in production
methods.



NEUTRAL
Don't know exactly what this change would be


  
Splitting decorated/non-decorated minifigure legs.


YES
Although the suggestion of adding 'plain' in the name might also work.
But a 'decorated' category would be consistent with other categories.
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  Catalog Roadmap:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2473

I know this is not fourth project, but I'd like to ask it anyway:

11. Create Complete Series Entries for Collectible Minifigures - A project to
create catalog entries to enable the sale of full sets of each series
of collectible minifigures. This is a minor, but controversial, project which
needs to be fully understood before moving forward.

Date first added: 10/30/2018
Suggested by: Rw107

Can this text be changed to:

11. Create Complete Series Entries for Collectible Minifigures - A project to
create catalog entries to enable the sale of full series of collectible minifigures.
This is a minor, but controversial, project which needs to be fully understood
before moving forward.

Removing "sets of". A series is not a set, so they should not be refered to as
a set. Maybe refer to them as a collection* like other series. However, I am
in favour of allowing the sale of a complete series in the same way as sets are
sold.

But there is a consistency issue. If CMF are allowed to be sold as complete numbered
series, then so should things like Friends Animals. These were sold by series,
yet the individual series have no category or even mention in the set name.
eg: this is just a Friends set.
 
Set No: 41017  Name: Squirrel's Tree House
* 
41017-1 (Inv) Squirrel's Tree House
41 Parts, 2013
Sets: Friends: Animals Series 1
There is no indication at all it is in from a series of collectible animals,
or which series it is in.

*Star Wars Planets - these already are (in some series) as "Buidable Galaxy"
collections.

 
Set No: 5001136  Name: Buildable Galaxy Collection
* 
5001136-1 (Inv) Buildable Galaxy Collection
3 Sets, 2012
Sets: Star Wars: Planets Series 1
 
Set No: 5001307  Name: Buildable Galaxy Collection II
* 
5001307-1 (Inv) Buildable Galaxy Collection II
3 Sets, 2012
Sets: Star Wars: Planets Series 2: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6

But these were an official collection.

Mixels: for example,

 
Set No: 5003801  Name: MIXELS Red Collection
* 
5003801-1 (Inv) MIXELS Red Collection
3 Sets, 2014
Sets: MIXELS: MIXELS Series 1
 
Set No: 5003799  Name: MIXELS Series 1 Collection
* 
5003799-1 (Inv) MIXELS Series 1 Collection
9 Sets, 2014
Sets: MIXELS: MIXELS Series 1

Again collections (also official).

Maybe non-official numbers could be used to create corresponding collections
were LEGO did not sell them that way. For example, a BL defined "Buildable Galaxy
III" collection could exist to sell complete series of planets, even though LEGO
did not sell it.



Of course, there is a dilemma as to how to sell a collection for a seller:

List as a series/collection, or list as individual sets, or list as a superlot
of individual sets?
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  Adding individual decorated hips and legs.

My take: This is currently against policy. Policies can be changed, though.
My question would be this: is it necessary? Does anyone feel a burning need
to sell these parts? Have your buyers been requesting them? How many support
this and how strongly?

A big NO. At least, legs and hips should not be allowed to be sold new. Pulling
legs off can easily damage the hips and legs are often loose when put back on.
This is much worse than pulling off arms and removing hands.


  Changing titles of certain dual-sided heads to reflect this fact and splitting
heads into single-side print and dual-side print categories.


My take: I think these are good ideas, but am always willing to listen to dissenters.

Splitting to single and dual is a good idea. Sometimes you want to just see single
sided prints.


  Splitting decorated/non-decorated minifigure legs.

My take: This one was not on the list for the original project, but I'm adding
it. There are over 1,400 items in the Minifig, Legs Assembly category and I
find it exceedingly difficult to find non-decorated legs in all that mess. Does
anyone else besides me feel like this would be a good split?

Yes.
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In Catalog, Lauren_Luke writes:
  This might be want you mean: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?nID=&viewDate=Y&viewType=E&viewStatus=A&viewActionType=C

Not exactly, as there are only changes like "Category Name Change" or "Category
Merge", but nothing for new categories
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Reorganizing dual-colored molded arms.

Fine. I don't really care I think. But will the logistics include changing
the code of torso assemblies to indicate which kind of arms they have without
checking the inventory?

  Adding individual decorated hips and legs.

My opinion is that this is a LOT of effort for very little result. I'm sure
there is a small market for mixing and matching decorated hips and legs. I've
done it a little, but never with impressive results. And I just had to buy hip
assemblies to do it and it was fine. I wouldn't bother here.

  Adding individual Technic figure parts.

I am at a loss here. I had a large Technic figure as a child and my opinion
was that he was not divisible. Is it pretty hard? Like the decorated hips,
are there people wanting to mix these up? They come assembled and my impression
is that they aren't intended to be taken apart.

  Changing titles of certain dual-sided heads to reflect this fact and splitting
heads into single-side print and dual-side print categories.


This is a twofer. Changing titles to reflect dual sided heads is merely regular
maintenance. Any of those known should be fixed. However, I see little point
in putting single and dual sided heads in different categories. The only application
that would interest me would be making it obvious where there was a dual sided
head needing a new pic because it looks like a single.

  Reorganizing/renumbering certain mini doll legs to reflect a change in production
methods.


I have no idea what this is about.

  Splitting decorated/non-decorated minifigure legs.

Presumably you mean "legs assemblies" where you said "legs". To this one I say
"I guess". The precedent is having separate categories for printed and non-printed
things when there get to be quite a few. To me it means increased risk of putting
a new piece in the wrong category by accident. It might be simpler to add a
code word like "plain" to the unprinted ones. There is plenty of space in their
item names. Even as it is now, all you have to do to find the unprinted one
you are looking for is find out the color number for the legs. And you may even
know it. I don't have to look to know that an assembly with black legs is
970c10.

A related issue that would interest me academically, but which might also have
little need, would be recognizing legs assemblies with dual molded legs as a
separate piece. Not that they need to be put in an actual different category,
but a code letter in the item number (like 970c00 v 970cm00).
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Thanks!

I only wanted to see new catalog categories for parts. Not so much movements
of parts between categories.

I've found this one and can live with it (although it also includes categories
for sets, etc. - but that's fine ):
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogCategory.asp?catName=&catTypeID=8&sortBy=I&sortAsc=D

In Catalog, Lauren_Luke writes:
  [Hurt] writes:
  ... is there some way to find out which categories are new (chronologically sorted)?

It depends exactly what you want to see but have a click around: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogLogs.asp
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This might be want you mean: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?nID=&viewDate=Y&viewType=E&viewStatus=A&viewActionType=C
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[Hurt] writes:
  ... is there some way to find out which categories are new (chronologically sorted)?

It depends exactly what you want to see but have a click around: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogLogs.asp
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Hi everyone!

I've recently sorted my parts by bricklink catalog category instead of colors
and already finished it.

I saw that some categories are new now - seems like at least 4 new categories
have been created from the old "(Other)" category:
* Accessory, Human Tool
* Chain
* Energy Effect
* Ring

Any other new categories than the 4 mentioned?

Instead of checking the list of categories every day (https://www.bricklink.com/catalogTree.asp?itemType=P&itemBrand=1000),
is there some way to find out which categories are new (chronologically sorted)?

Thanks!
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Reorganizing dual-colored molded arms.

ABSTAIN. I do not sell in this sub-market, and don’t like taking arms out of
torsos.

Adding individual decorated hips and legs.

NO. Disassembling torso assemblies is never a good thing. I remember a wise
person ([axaday]) once said “Legs never are as good once you have take them apart.”

Adding individual Technic figure parts

YES. I do not see any harm in this. I have a technic figure complete except for
a broken shoe/foot, so selfishly I would like this sub-project done.

Changing titles of certain dual-sided heads to reflect this fact and splitting
heads into single-side print and dual-side print categories.


YES. Change the titles of all dual-sided heads.
YES. Normally I would consider changing the title only for this because it would
help searching. However, since there are so many heads splitting the category
also would be beneficial for browsing the catalogue.

Reorganizing/renumbering certain mini doll legs to reflect a change in production
methods.


ABSTAIN. I have no idea what we are talking about here. Are we talking about
the Friends Reboot?

Splitting decorated/non-decorated minifigure legs.

YES. If anyone has an ideal way to compartmentalise their physical inventory
of minifig legs assembly, then please let me know. I have no system and consequently
picking legs assemblies is slower than picking other parts.

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