Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | Nubs_Select  | | Posted: | Mar 8, 2023 02:39 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | didn't they speed the process up?
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Yes, you can now get positive feedback by asking in the forum
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Nah that was patched with the latest update at the same time they patched the
goblet exploit
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| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Mar 8, 2023 02:31 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | didn't they speed the process up?
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Yes, you can now get positive feedback by asking in the forum
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 16:19 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | Lol ya that's fine and dandy. I'm not a store selling the to public,
I'm a private citizen selling to another private citizen. Not a store or
registered business. Even if i was a registered business un canada im pretty
sure i do not have to collect hst if revenues are Under 30k. Dont quote me on
the amount. That may be different.
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So, where did you see that BrickLink would make you collect taxes if you don’t
have to?
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I thought I read about a new process for canadian sellers having to cover the
hst tax for buyers outside of Canada for income taxes purposes. Implemented in
Nov 2022. I have to try and fi d the link
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Dammnit now I can't find it. Lol ill post when I do.
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Pretty sure you don’t have to worry about tax at all if your just a small store.
Much less so for selling to non canadiens. Any taxes for International stuff
like that is the Byers responsibility not the sellers so you should be good.
Also I can’t say I’ve ever heard of having to charge say Canada tax for a (for
example) New Zealand buyer (that was a difficult word to spell  )
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Right carry on per normal. Hence why I thought what I read was crazy. Maybe a
I had a few to many last night and made it up.very possible too. Lol
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and a plus (not sure if I'm just lucky or its a Canadian thing) the
CRA is pretty friendly. I've had to call them multiple times and I would
vote them the best and friendliest tax people on the planet
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Bahaha. I can feel the sarcasm thru my phone screen. To funny.
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the funny thing is I'm not even joking every encounter I've
had has been amazing (excluding the multiple audits ) and they are always able
to answer questions and get things setup and ready
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| Author: | mmattt | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 15:51 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Emporiosa writes:
| | In Taxes, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | So new to this site, and I have several classic full sets I'm looking to
sell. What is the deal with Canadian sellers having to pay hst for the buyer
outside of Canada?
This make no sense to me. I'm not a retailer, I'm a guy just trying to
sell some lego. What's the deal?
Maybe there is a link somewhere someone can post for me please?
Seems pretty ridiculous to me.
Thanks in advance
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Canadian sellers don't have to pay taxes
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Yes they do on their seller fees. As of Nov 2022.
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2555
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Ah yes see this is what I was talking about.
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| Author: | mmattt | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 15:44 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | Lol ya that's fine and dandy. I'm not a store selling the to public,
I'm a private citizen selling to another private citizen. Not a store or
registered business. Even if i was a registered business un canada im pretty
sure i do not have to collect hst if revenues are Under 30k. Dont quote me on
the amount. That may be different.
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So, where did you see that BrickLink would make you collect taxes if you don’t
have to?
|
I thought I read about a new process for canadian sellers having to cover the
hst tax for buyers outside of Canada for income taxes purposes. Implemented in
Nov 2022. I have to try and fi d the link
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Dammnit now I can't find it. Lol ill post when I do.
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Pretty sure you don’t have to worry about tax at all if your just a small store.
Much less so for selling to non canadiens. Any taxes for International stuff
like that is the Byers responsibility not the sellers so you should be good.
Also I can’t say I’ve ever heard of having to charge say Canada tax for a (for
example) New Zealand buyer (that was a difficult word to spell )
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Right carry on per normal. Hence why I thought what I read was crazy. Maybe a
I had a few to many last night and made it up.very possible too. Lol
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and a plus (not sure if I'm just lucky or its a Canadian thing) the
CRA is pretty friendly. I've had to call them multiple times and I would
vote them the best and friendliest tax people on the planet
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Bahaha. I can feel the sarcasm thru my phone screen. To funny.
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| Author: | mmattt | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 15:41 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Emporiosa writes:
| | | | Michael - if I'm understanding you correctly, are you purchasing from outside
of Canada? If so, please be aware that you're likely still going to need
to pay CBSA import for the taxes anyways. If you're buying from within Canada,
many stores do also collect and remit taxes as required. Smaller stores under
the $30K threshold you identified may not have to.
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Actually re-reading your original post (I was comment more about the follow ups
you had posted as it sounded like you were buying on the site but outside of
Canada).
Sellers in Canada do not pay for HST for buyers outside of Canada... or perhaps
I misunderstood what you mean. When marketplace tax does roll-out, it's not
sellers responsible for this tax in any way. BrickLink will automatically tax
all Canadian buyers on purchases they make on the platform, and not just from
Canadian sellers. So if you're in Ontario and you purchase from the US or
EU, you'll still pay tax, but in theory you wouldn't pay taxes again
on import.
This process already exists for other countries like EU/US. So when a buyer from
the US buys from my store, the invoice automatically adds a US sales tax for
their state. When the payment comes in from PayPal or Stripe, it automatically
strips out the tax part to send to BL for remittance. As a seller, there is nothing
you do.
The only tax a seller has to pay is on their seller fees (as mentioned in the
above thread and by other folks).
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Ah ok cool. This is the info I'm looking for. Duty and import fees I'm
aware of when purchasing. It was the bricklink fee component for canada I must
have misunderstood.
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 15:31 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | Lol ya that's fine and dandy. I'm not a store selling the to public,
I'm a private citizen selling to another private citizen. Not a store or
registered business. Even if i was a registered business un canada im pretty
sure i do not have to collect hst if revenues are Under 30k. Dont quote me on
the amount. That may be different.
|
So, where did you see that BrickLink would make you collect taxes if you don’t
have to?
|
I thought I read about a new process for canadian sellers having to cover the
hst tax for buyers outside of Canada for income taxes purposes. Implemented in
Nov 2022. I have to try and fi d the link
|
Dammnit now I can't find it. Lol ill post when I do.
|
Pretty sure you don’t have to worry about tax at all if your just a small store.
Much less so for selling to non canadiens. Any taxes for International stuff
like that is the Byers responsibility not the sellers so you should be good.
Also I can’t say I’ve ever heard of having to charge say Canada tax for a (for
example) New Zealand buyer (that was a difficult word to spell )
|
Right carry on per normal. Hence why I thought what I read was crazy. Maybe a
I had a few to many last night and made it up.very possible too. Lol
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and a plus (not sure if I'm just lucky or its a Canadian thing) the
CRA is pretty friendly. I've had to call them multiple times and I would
vote them the best and friendliest tax people on the planet
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| Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 15:24 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | So new to this site, and I have several classic full sets I'm looking to
sell. What is the deal with Canadian sellers having to pay hst for the buyer
outside of Canada?
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The buyer pays the sales tax (USA) or VAT (EU). PayPal charges a small fee for
processing the sales tax/VAT payment (so, I assume, does Stripe) and that will
come out of your funds. But just the processing fee - the tax that the buyer
pays in will also come out.
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| Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 15:19 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
I found these explanations of our tax system. Probably the same in Canada.
"The primary requisite for any new tax law is for it to exempt enough voters
to win the next election.
Ambition in America is still rewarded . . . with high taxes.
It’s hard to believe America was founded to avoid high taxation.
Drive carefully. Uncle Sam needs every taxpayer he can get.
There is no child so bad that he/she can’t be used as an income tax deduction.
A fool and his money are soon parted. The rest of us wait until income tax time.
Everybody works for the government, either on the payroll or the taxroll.
The income tax forms have been simplified beyond all understanding.
Loafing is the only way to beat the income tax.
When making out your income-tax report, be sure you don’t overlook your most
expensive dependent – the government.
If you think you can keep everything to yourself, . . . the IRS doesn’t.
Patriotism will probably never develop to the point of parading in honor of the
“unknown taxpayer.”
A politician is a man who never met a tax he didn’t try to hike.
After all is said and done, the politicians say it and the taxpayers do it.
Regardless of who wins the election they have to raise taxes to pay for the damage.
The best things in life are free – plus tax, of course.
Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth – less 40 percent inheritance
tax.
A dime is a dollar with all the various taxes deducted.
Our beloved country has made remarkable progress. Now politicians have arranged
to spend taxes before they collect them.
A political promise today means another tax tomorrow.
We may need tax reform, but it seems we need a lot of spending reform too.
In Russia the people have only what the government gives them; in America the
people have only what the government does not take away from them in taxes."
I hope this helps.
John P
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| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 15:15 | | Subject: | Re: taxes | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, PieceOfMind writes:
| | I'm surprised Bricklink doesn't create any statements or am I missing
something?
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I think PayPal creates tax documents, you may have received a 1099-K from them
BrickLink does create statements for seller fees, which you can download from
your fees page
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| Author: | PieceOfMind | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 15:12 | | Subject: | taxes | | Viewed: | 122 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| I'm surprised Bricklink doesn't create any statements or am I missing
something?
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| Author: | Emporiosa | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 15:09 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| | | Michael - if I'm understanding you correctly, are you purchasing from outside
of Canada? If so, please be aware that you're likely still going to need
to pay CBSA import for the taxes anyways. If you're buying from within Canada,
many stores do also collect and remit taxes as required. Smaller stores under
the $30K threshold you identified may not have to.
|
Actually re-reading your original post (I was comment more about the follow ups
you had posted as it sounded like you were buying on the site but outside of
Canada).
Sellers in Canada do not pay for HST for buyers outside of Canada... or perhaps
I misunderstood what you mean. When marketplace tax does roll-out, it's not
sellers responsible for this tax in any way. BrickLink will automatically tax
all Canadian buyers on purchases they make on the platform, and not just from
Canadian sellers. So if you're in Ontario and you purchase from the US or
EU, you'll still pay tax, but in theory you wouldn't pay taxes again
on import.
This process already exists for other countries like EU/US. So when a buyer from
the US buys from my store, the invoice automatically adds a US sales tax for
their state. When the payment comes in from PayPal or Stripe, it automatically
strips out the tax part to send to BL for remittance. As a seller, there is nothing
you do.
The only tax a seller has to pay is on their seller fees (as mentioned in the
above thread and by other folks).
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 15:07 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | Pretty sure you don’t have to worry about tax at all if your just a small store.
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Much more; as a Buyer only, he can't sell on BrickLink - so the Tax for selling
problem is preytty moot IMO
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I have bought a few things so just need to receive them and hope some one will
give my sorry ass a positive review
|
Not at the right place, because you'd already received a positive feedback
from us
Seriously, to become a seller you'll have to give some proofs (I don't
know which, maybe an ID copy), and wait a delay that can be pretty long (weeks?).
Again, not sure how fast it works right now, but it's what it was recently.
So, don't be hurry 
Welcome aboard anyway!
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didn't they speed the process up?
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| Author: | Emporiosa | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 15:04 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | So new to this site, and I have several classic full sets I'm looking to
sell. What is the deal with Canadian sellers having to pay hst for the buyer
outside of Canada?
This make no sense to me. I'm not a retailer, I'm a guy just trying to
sell some lego. What's the deal?
Maybe there is a link somewhere someone can post for me please?
Seems pretty ridiculous to me.
Thanks in advance
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Canadian sellers don't have to pay taxes
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Yes they do on their seller fees. As of Nov 2022.
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2555
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| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 15:00 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | So new to this site, and I have several classic full sets I'm looking to
sell. What is the deal with Canadian sellers having to pay hst for the buyer
outside of Canada?
This make no sense to me. I'm not a retailer, I'm a guy just trying to
sell some lego. What's the deal?
Maybe there is a link somewhere someone can post for me please?
Seems pretty ridiculous to me.
Thanks in advance
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Canadian sellers don't have to pay taxes
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| Author: | Emporiosa | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 14:56 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | […]
I thought I read about a new process for canadian sellers having to cover the
hst tax for buyers outside of Canada for income taxes purposes. Implemented in
Nov 2022. I have to try and fi d the link
|
What just started (and what started a few threads here) is BrickLink adding taxes
to the fee.
It’s not the seller paying taxes for the buyer, it’s the seller being a customer
of BrickLink. You buy a service from BL (the use of the marketplace to sell
to buyers worldwide), you pay the service (“fees”), and you pay taxes on the
service.
The threads are about BL not having the right to do it because it wouldn’t be
registered in Canada and about BL doing it without giving their tax number (hence
the “BL is not registered”).
But BL does a similar thing in EU & UK… except BL is correctly registered to
do so there and, AFAIK, (eventually managed to) deliver proper invoices.
Also, what should have started is BrickLink collecting Canadian taxes from buyers
(not sellers) because of “marketplace laws” (see these help pages for the countries
whose marketplace laws are already implemented on BrickLink:
US: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2467
UK: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2514
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2511
EU: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2517
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2518 ).
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As Sylvain has just mentioned, buyers are not taxed yet (but will be eventually.
Legislation in Canada required it I think to be enforced as of July 1, 2022 so
they're a bit behind). Nov 2022 is simply tax on the sellers fees that sellers
pay. Right now (even for the latest March bill), BrickLink isn't compliant
with Canadian laws as they do not have their required GST/HST # on invoices (or
what EU would call a VAT #). BrickLink's only response to me is that they
don't know their number somehow and are waiting to receive it (?) And that's
also assuming they really are part of the old tax regime, and not the one that
the thread is referring to, as that's a whole other can of worms.
Michael - if I'm understanding you correctly, are you purchasing from outside
of Canada? If so, please be aware that you're likely still going to need
to pay CBSA import for the taxes anyways. If you're buying from within Canada,
many stores do also collect and remit taxes as required. Smaller stores under
the $30K threshold you identified may not have to.
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| Author: | mmattt | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 14:54 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | Pretty sure you don’t have to worry about tax at all if your just a small store.
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Much more; as a Buyer only, he can't sell on BrickLink - so the Tax for selling
problem is preytty moot IMO
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I have bought a few things so just need to receive them and hope some one will
give my sorry ass a positive review
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Not at the right place, because you'd already received a positive feedback
from us
Seriously, to become a seller you'll have to give some proofs (I don't
know which, maybe an ID copy), and wait a delay that can be pretty long (weeks?).
Again, not sure how fast it works right now, but it's what it was recently.
So, don't be hurry
Welcome aboard anyway!
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Alrighty. Thanks for the info. 👍
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 14:39 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | Pretty sure you don’t have to worry about tax at all if your just a small store.
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Much more; as a Buyer only, he can't sell on BrickLink - so the Tax for selling
problem is preytty moot IMO
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I have bought a few things so just need to receive them and hope some one will
give my sorry ass a positive review
|
Not at the right place, because you'd already received a positive feedback
from us
Seriously, to become a seller you'll have to give some proofs (I don't
know which, maybe an ID copy), and wait a delay that can be pretty long (weeks?).
Again, not sure how fast it works right now, but it's what it was recently.
So, don't be hurry
Welcome aboard anyway!
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| Author: | mmattt | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 14:35 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | Pretty sure you don’t have to worry about tax at all if your just a small store.
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Much more; as a Buyer only, he can't sell on BrickLink - so the Tax for selling
problem is preytty moot IMO
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I have bought a few things so just need to receive them and hope some one will
give my sorry ass a positive review
|
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 14:34 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | […]
I thought I read about a new process for canadian sellers having to cover the
hst tax for buyers outside of Canada for income taxes purposes. Implemented in
Nov 2022. I have to try and fi d the link
|
What just started (and what started a few threads here) is BrickLink adding taxes
to the fee.
It’s not the seller paying taxes for the buyer, it’s the seller being a customer
of BrickLink. You buy a service from BL (the use of the marketplace to sell
to buyers worldwide), you pay the service (“fees”), and you pay taxes on the
service.
The threads are about BL not having the right to do it because it wouldn’t be
registered in Canada and about BL doing it without giving their tax number (hence
the “BL is not registered”).
But BL does a similar thing in EU & UK… except BL is correctly registered to
do so there and, AFAIK, (eventually managed to) deliver proper invoices.
Also, what should have started is BrickLink collecting Canadian taxes from buyers
(not sellers) because of “marketplace laws” (see these help pages for the countries
whose marketplace laws are already implemented on BrickLink:
US: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2467
UK: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2514
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2511
EU: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2517
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2518 ).
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| Author: | mmattt | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 14:32 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | Lol ya that's fine and dandy. I'm not a store selling the to public,
I'm a private citizen selling to another private citizen. Not a store or
registered business. Even if i was a registered business un canada im pretty
sure i do not have to collect hst if revenues are Under 30k. Dont quote me on
the amount. That may be different.
|
So, where did you see that BrickLink would make you collect taxes if you don’t
have to?
|
I thought I read about a new process for canadian sellers having to cover the
hst tax for buyers outside of Canada for income taxes purposes. Implemented in
Nov 2022. I have to try and fi d the link
|
Dammnit now I can't find it. Lol ill post when I do.
|
Pretty sure you don’t have to worry about tax at all if your just a small store.
Much less so for selling to non canadiens. Any taxes for International stuff
like that is the Byers responsibility not the sellers so you should be good.
Also I can’t say I’ve ever heard of having to charge say Canada tax for a (for
example) New Zealand buyer (that was a difficult word to spell )
|
Right carry on per normal. Hence why I thought what I read was crazy. Maybe a
I had a few to many last night and made it up.very possible too. Lol
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 14:31 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| | | Pretty sure you don’t have to worry about tax at all if your just a small store.
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Much more; as a Buyer only, he can't sell on BrickLink - so the Tax for selling
problem is pretty moot IMO
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 14:29 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | So, where did you see that BrickLink would make you collect taxes if you don’t
have to?
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* he's a BrickOwl team member in disguise, here to spread FUD,
* or he's a Cartel patron evaluating BrickLink ability to sell tons of Technic
Pins 2780 Black to whiten dirty money,
* or... he's just confused.
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Lol I think I'm going with option 1 lol
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Oooof that was close. Happy you picked this option
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 14:27 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | Lol ya that's fine and dandy. I'm not a store selling the to public,
I'm a private citizen selling to another private citizen. Not a store or
registered business. Even if i was a registered business un canada im pretty
sure i do not have to collect hst if revenues are Under 30k. Dont quote me on
the amount. That may be different.
|
So, where did you see that BrickLink would make you collect taxes if you don’t
have to?
|
I thought I read about a new process for canadian sellers having to cover the
hst tax for buyers outside of Canada for income taxes purposes. Implemented in
Nov 2022. I have to try and fi d the link
|
Dammnit now I can't find it. Lol ill post when I do.
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Pretty sure you don’t have to worry about tax at all if your just a small store.
Much less so for selling to non canadiens. Any taxes for International stuff
like that is the Byers responsibility not the sellers so you should be good.
Also I can’t say I’ve ever heard of having to charge say Canada tax for a (for
example) New Zealand buyer (that was a difficult word to spell )
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| Author: | mmattt | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 14:26 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | So, where did you see that BrickLink would make you collect taxes if you don’t
have to?
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* he's a BrickOwl team member in disguise, here to spread FUD,
* or he's a Cartel patron evaluating BrickLink ability to sell tons of Technic
Pins 2780 Black to whiten dirty money,
* or... he's just confused.
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Lol I think I'm going with option 1 lol
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 14:23 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| | | So, where did you see that BrickLink would make you collect taxes if you don’t
have to?
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* he's a BrickOwl team member in disguise, here to spread FUD,
* or he's a Cartel patron evaluating BrickLink ability to sell tons of Technic
Pins 2780 Black to whiten dirty money,
* or... he's just confused.
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| Author: | mmattt | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 14:23 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | Lol ya that's fine and dandy. I'm not a store selling the to public,
I'm a private citizen selling to another private citizen. Not a store or
registered business. Even if i was a registered business un canada im pretty
sure i do not have to collect hst if revenues are Under 30k. Dont quote me on
the amount. That may be different.
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So, where did you see that BrickLink would make you collect taxes if you don’t
have to?
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I thought I read about a new process for canadian sellers having to cover the
hst tax for buyers outside of Canada for income taxes purposes. Implemented in
Nov 2022. I have to try and fi d the link
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Dammnit now I can't find it. Lol ill post when I do.
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| Author: | mmattt | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 14:19 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | Lol ya that's fine and dandy. I'm not a store selling the to public,
I'm a private citizen selling to another private citizen. Not a store or
registered business. Even if i was a registered business un canada im pretty
sure i do not have to collect hst if revenues are Under 30k. Dont quote me on
the amount. That may be different.
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So, where did you see that BrickLink would make you collect taxes if you don’t
have to?
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I thought I read about a new process for canadian sellers having to cover the
hst tax for buyers outside of Canada for income taxes purposes. Implemented in
Nov 2022. I have to try and fi d the link
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 14:15 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Micheal_m writes:
| | Lol ya that's fine and dandy. I'm not a store selling the to public,
I'm a private citizen selling to another private citizen. Not a store or
registered business. Even if i was a registered business un canada im pretty
sure i do not have to collect hst if revenues are Under 30k. Dont quote me on
the amount. That may be different.
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So, where did you see that BrickLink would make you collect taxes if you don’t
have to?
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| Author: | mmattt | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 14:13 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| Lol ya that's fine and dandy. I'm not a store selling the to public,
I'm a private citizen selling to another private citizen. Not a store or
registered business. Even if i was a registered business un canada im pretty
sure i do not have to collect hst if revenues are Under 30k. Dont quote me on
the amount. That may be different.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 14:09 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | Maybe there is a link somewhere someone can post for me please?
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Like what... a link to zillion Laws telling you that Taxes are legit???
They do exist since forever I guess, and for sure since far before you arrived
on Earth
| | Seems pretty ridiculous to me.
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Taxes are a subscription you pay to be allowed to live.
A kind of a Life Netflix.
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I think something is wrong in what Michael_m is saying.
HST should work like VAT, so:
— if a Canadian seller is registered in Canada, they would remove the taxes when
they export (to non-Canadian buyers),
— if a Canadian seller is not registered in Canada, then they never collect taxes.
The difference is that BrickLink provides a mechanism for sellers in (some) VAT
countries (EU, UK, Norway?, others?) but not for Canada, so everything is manual.
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 14:04 | | Subject: | Re: Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| | | Maybe there is a link somewhere someone can post for me please?
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Like what... a link to zillion Laws telling you that Taxes are legit???
They do exist since forever I guess, and for sure since far before you arrived
on Earth
| | Seems pretty ridiculous to me.
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Taxes are a subscription you pay to be allowed to live.
A kind of a Life Netflix.
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| Author: | mmattt | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2023 13:59 | | Subject: | Please explain taxes for Canadian sellers | | Viewed: | 115 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| So new to this site, and I have several classic full sets I'm looking to
sell. What is the deal with Canadian sellers having to pay hst for the buyer
outside of Canada?
This make no sense to me. I'm not a retailer, I'm a guy just trying to
sell some lego. What's the deal?
Maybe there is a link somewhere someone can post for me please?
Seems pretty ridiculous to me.
Thanks in advance
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| Author: | leopard37 | | Posted: | Mar 5, 2023 11:39 | | Subject: | Re: "Canada Tax" - Possible error for some | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Taxes, Emporiosa writes:
| | To whomever it may concern at BrickLink (I'll also send a copy to support)
- Primarily a heads-up as this could have a financial impact for BrickLink if
they are in error of collection from some sellers:
I was checking the receipt for the Nov/Dec because I am registered for GST/HST
and I am refunded as an ITC credit for these amounts paid (whether it be a service,
for goods, etc..). The newsletter made me realize it was already starting to
be collected. I noticed the receipt had no GST # on it, which in Canada is usually
required when you collect GST/HST. I'm not exactly sure how it works for
the cross-border digital tax like this one (and I'm not talking about the
ones you guys will implement in the future - just the one on the seller's
commissions), but when researching, I found this (and BrickLink is most definitely
aware that I'm GST/HST registered as I'm the one who keeps pushing for
tax settings for Canada ):
_____
Determining the status of your customers
Your customer is considered a specified Canadian recipient if:
-the usual place of residence of the customer is situated in Canada, and
-the customer does not provide you with satisfactory evidence that the customer
is registered for the GST/HST under the normal GST/HST regime.
If you obtain the GST/HST registration number of your customer who is registered
for the GST/HST under the normal GST/HST regime, you are not required to charge
and collect the GST/HST on the specified supply that you make to this customer.
If the GST/HST registered customer provides their GST/HST registration number
and the GST/HST is still charged and collected, the customer is able to request
a refund from you. Any GST/HST paid by the registered customer in such cases
is not recoverable by claiming an input tax credit or by filing a rebate application
for an amount paid as tax paid in error.
___
If I'm interpreting this correctly, and I'll verify with CRA today, BrickLink
wasn't supposed to be collecting this tax on sellers who were already registered
for GST/HST and we can request a refund not from the CRA, but from BrickLink
and BrickLink will not be able to reclaim this from the CRA because it was an
error in how they collected.
Reference: https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/tax/businesses/topics/gst-hst-businesses/digital-economy-gsthst/charge-collect/cross-border.html
(that blurb came from the "Who charges and collects the GST/HST"
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We have received your message and passed it along to the appropriate team. Just
to clarify, the tax BrickLink is charging Canadian sellers now is tax on the
fees, not tax on the orders. Charging the tax due on an order is a separate matter,
and BrickLink is working with the Canadian authorities to determine our obligation
in this area. We will share the result of that discussion when it is settled.
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Another month of GST you owe back to Canadian seller with a GST number already.
When will this issue be solved?
Tyson.
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Feb 24, 2023 00:32 | | Subject: | Re: US to Can Customs Tax on Return | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Sterra writes:
| | | | I rechecked the form to request a review. There is nothing saying that it requires money anywhere. Do they charge you out of the refund?
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I had explained in my first message that you would better to make it return to
avoid lose $9.95 (plus the cost of mailing documents to CSBA)
If you check the details of tax costs, for us in BC there are
GST $X
PST $Y
Processing fees $9.95
That processing fees won't be refunded, no matter what.
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 23, 2023 19:54 | | Subject: | Re: US to Can Customs Tax on Return | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Sterra writes:
| | | | I rechecked the form to request a review. There is nothing saying that it requires money anywhere. Do they charge you out of the refund?
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I think he's saying the flat rate fee of about $10 that they charge for them
to calculate the tax when it was "imported" isn't refunded
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| Author: | Sterra | | Posted: | Feb 23, 2023 19:45 | | Subject: | Re: US to Can Customs Tax on Return | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| | | I rechecked the form to request a review. There is nothing saying that it requires money anywhere. Do they charge you out of the refund? |
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Feb 23, 2023 18:50 | | Subject: | Re: US to Can Customs Tax on Return | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Sterra writes:
| | In Taxes, Sterra writes:
| | I am having a package returned from the states and I am required to pay customs
Tax for the return. Is this Normal?
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I am requesting a refund from the Border Services. (yes I paid instead of shipping
it back)
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The processing fees $9.95 won't be refunded. You also have to pay to send
your documents to CSBA so you lost in total at least about $11.
| | Need to send back the CBSA Postal Import Form with documentation. I sent the
Order page with the refund showing, a copy of the mailing label, copy of the
customs form from the buyer, and a copy of the original shipping label (yeah
I kept this one!).
I will let you know what happens.
Sandra
TerraBrick
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 23, 2023 11:26 | | Subject: | Re: US to Can Customs Tax on Return | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Sterra writes:
| | In Taxes, Sterra writes:
| | I am having a package returned from the states and I am required to pay customs
Tax for the return. Is this Normal?
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I am requesting a refund from the Border Services. (yes I paid instead of shipping
it back)
Need to send back the CBSA Postal Import Form with documentation. I sent the
Order page with the refund showing, a copy of the mailing label, copy of the
customs form from the buyer, and a copy of the original shipping label (yeah
I kept this one!).
I will let you know what happens.
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Thanks!
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| Author: | Sterra | | Posted: | Feb 23, 2023 10:45 | | Subject: | Re: US to Can Customs Tax on Return | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Sterra writes:
| | I am having a package returned from the states and I am required to pay customs
Tax for the return. Is this Normal?
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I am requesting a refund from the Border Services. (yes I paid instead of shipping
it back)
Need to send back the CBSA Postal Import Form with documentation. I sent the
Order page with the refund showing, a copy of the mailing label, copy of the
customs form from the buyer, and a copy of the original shipping label (yeah
I kept this one!).
I will let you know what happens.
Sandra
TerraBrick
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2023 19:41 | | Subject: | Re: US to Can Customs Tax on Return | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, SezaR writes:
| | In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Taxes, Sterra writes:
| | I am having a package returned from the states and I am required to pay customs
Tax for the return. Is this Normal?
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probably with the way Canada post is. a week or 2 ago i was watching some videos
of sending some cards to psa in the states for grading and the person i was watching
said that they once ended up paying import costs on the cards when they were
returned so i would be surprised if they do it also in this case.
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Maybe fake-return is a usual scheme from Canadians who don’t want to pay taxes?
French saying: trop poli pour être honnête (too polite to be honest). Seems
to apply to Canadians 
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Those things do not apply to Canadians 😀😁😉
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2023 19:39 | | Subject: | Re: US to Can Customs Tax on Return | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Taxes, Sterra writes:
| | I am having a package returned from the states and I am required to pay customs
Tax for the return. Is this Normal?
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probably with the way Canada post is. a week or 2 ago i was watching some videos
of sending some cards to psa in the states for grading and the person i was watching
said that they once ended up paying import costs on the cards when they were
returned so i would be surprised if they do it also in this case.
|
Maybe fake-return is a usual scheme from Canadians who don’t want to pay taxes?
French saying: trop poli pour être honnête (too polite to be honest). Seems
to apply to Canadians
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Those things do not apply to Canadians 😀😁😉
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2023 19:37 | | Subject: | Re: US to Can Customs Tax on Return | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Sterra writes:
| | I checked the customs form - Return of goods box is checked off. Maybe they
didn't bother to look at the paperwork. I will be talking to the postmaster.
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There are no tax for returned goods. You did not buy anything, it is just returned.
I have returned goods from post office to customs for review because the declared
value was wrong (sender included shipping costs into the value of goods) and
the customs contacted me and corrected the chaeges; once they removed it totally!
I think it will work for this case too.
If you pay it, you can request a refund by sending documents to customs or somewhere
i dont remember. But they wont refund the handling fees , i.e. $9.95 so that
route is not recommended.
P.s. If that works comment here and let us now and also send me a beautiful
lego set. I am still a kid and would appreciate that!
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| Author: | Sterra | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2023 18:54 | | Subject: | Re: US to Can Customs Tax on Return | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| I checked the customs form - Return of goods box is checked off. Maybe they
didn't bother to look at the paperwork. I will be talking to the postmaster.
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2023 17:43 | | Subject: | Re: US to Can Customs Tax on Return | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Taxes, Sterra writes:
| | I am having a package returned from the states and I am required to pay customs
Tax for the return. Is this Normal?
|
probably with the way Canada post is. a week or 2 ago i was watching some videos
of sending some cards to psa in the states for grading and the person i was watching
said that they once ended up paying import costs on the cards when they were
returned so i would be surprised if they do it also in this case.
|
Maybe fake-return is a usual scheme from Canadians who don’t want to pay taxes?
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nah only reusing old stamps
| | French saying: trop poli pour être honnête (too polite to be honest). Seems
to apply to Canadians
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2023 17:40 | | Subject: | Re: US to Can Customs Tax on Return | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Taxes, Sterra writes:
| | I am having a package returned from the states and I am required to pay customs
Tax for the return. Is this Normal?
|
probably with the way Canada post is. a week or 2 ago i was watching some videos
of sending some cards to psa in the states for grading and the person i was watching
said that they once ended up paying import costs on the cards when they were
returned so i would be surprised if they do it also in this case.
|
Maybe fake-return is a usual scheme from Canadians who don’t want to pay taxes?
French saying: trop poli pour être honnête (too polite to be honest). Seems
to apply to Canadians
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More seriously: as taxes are not checked by Customs in the US, the senders may
not be understanding why it’s important to correctly fill the paperwork.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2023 17:38 | | Subject: | Re: US to Can Customs Tax on Return | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Taxes, Sterra writes:
| | I am having a package returned from the states and I am required to pay customs
Tax for the return. Is this Normal?
|
probably with the way Canada post is. a week or 2 ago i was watching some videos
of sending some cards to psa in the states for grading and the person i was watching
said that they once ended up paying import costs on the cards when they were
returned so i would be surprised if they do it also in this case.
|
Maybe fake-return is a usual scheme from Canadians who don’t want to pay taxes?
French saying: trop poli pour être honnête (too polite to be honest). Seems
to apply to Canadians
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2023 17:35 | | Subject: | Re: US to Can Customs Tax on Return | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Sterra writes:
| | I am having a package returned from the states and I am required to pay customs
Tax for the return. Is this Normal?
Sandra
TerraBrick
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Do not pay them.
If it is CanadaPost, you can request the postmaster to return it to customs to
adjust the charges (wherever the customs checked the package and add charges)
and you give them your tel number and email address. Then they contact you and
you give them necessary documents that this is a return package. They then remove
the charges.
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2023 16:58 | | Subject: | Re: US to Can Customs Tax on Return | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Sterra writes:
| | I am having a package returned from the states and I am required to pay customs
Tax for the return. Is this Normal?
|
probably with the way Canada post is. a week or 2 ago i was watching some videos
of sending some cards to psa in the states for grading and the person i was watching
said that they once ended up paying import costs on the cards when they were
returned so i would be surprised if they do it also in this case.
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| Author: | Sterra | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2023 16:50 | | Subject: | US to Can Customs Tax on Return | | Viewed: | 108 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| I am having a package returned from the states and I am required to pay customs
Tax for the return. Is this Normal?
Sandra
TerraBrick
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 18:36 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| | | Our sales to the EU have fallen off them great white cliffs down south. We miss you 
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We miss you too - but you divorced
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| Author: | MyTwoPence | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 17:12 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| | | NI is partly 'in' (the EU) if the goods are sent from the EU and partly
'out' if they are send from the UK.
Of course there is a rather large tax issue if goods are sent from either UK
or EU into NI and then moved on to the EU or UK respectively. Hence the ongoing
(and current again) talks about this.
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One can probably tell how confused I still am from my original message. I can't
even figure myself what I was trying to say earlier!
Thanks for nearly clearing it up though you two  that's got to be the
most precise answer to the the situation I've come across since Brexit -
short, sweet, and clear for laymen like me
One more question to know if I understand it fully : should I be looking at property
prices / rent in Northern Ireland? Our sales to the EU have fallen off them great
white cliffs down south. We miss you
... just MyTwoPence
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 09:14 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, MyTwoPence writes:
| | In Taxes, yorbrick writes:
| | In Taxes, rankster writes:
| | In Taxes, Stellar writes:
| | Check the shipping address, that order probably is going to North Ireland, and
that is considered as a sale inside the EU with VAT included in your prices.
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Wow that could be the reason, it's the city of Beragh which is in Northern
Ireland, tricky one. Thanks!
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That will be it. NI is still partly in and partly out of EU, it is still a real
mess.
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Wow.Really?
I assumed it would be the Republic of Ireland still in EU and any address with
a UK postcode, isn't.
i.e. it's a Northern Ireland address, which would have the same rules as
the rest of the UK.
And with Beragh being in the North, we certainly do have a right royal mess!!
... just MyTwoPence
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NI is partly 'in' (the EU) if the goods are sent from the EU and partly
'out' if they are send from the UK.
Of course there is a rather large tax issue if goods are sent from either UK
or EU into NI and then moved on to the EU or UK respectively. Hence the ongoing
(and current again) talks about this.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 09:00 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, MyTwoPence writes:
| | […]
| | That will be it. NI is still partly in and partly out of EU, it is still a real
mess.
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Wow.Really? […]
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It’s called the Norther Ireland Protocol and it’s due to the Good Friday Agreement
of 1998. The situation was also referred to as the Irish Backstop and was the
main problem of the Brexit negociations.
Simplified:
On the one hand, Brexit means there’s now a border (more specifically controls
and customs) between UK and EU. On the other hand, there can be no border between
Eire and NI (Good Friday Agreement). The solution of having a border between
NI and the rest of UK is, well, “complicated.”
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| Author: | MyTwoPence | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 08:35 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, yorbrick writes:
| | In Taxes, rankster writes:
| | In Taxes, Stellar writes:
| | Check the shipping address, that order probably is going to North Ireland, and
that is considered as a sale inside the EU with VAT included in your prices.
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Wow that could be the reason, it's the city of Beragh which is in Northern
Ireland, tricky one. Thanks!
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That will be it. NI is still partly in and partly out of EU, it is still a real
mess.
|
Wow.Really?
I assumed it would be the Republic of Ireland still in EU and any address with
a UK postcode, isn't.
i.e. it's a Northern Ireland address, which would have the same rules as
the rest of the UK.
And with Beragh being in the North, we certainly do have a right royal mess!!
... just MyTwoPence
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 07:37 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, rankster writes:
| | In Taxes, Stellar writes:
| | Check the shipping address, that order probably is going to North Ireland, and
that is considered as a sale inside the EU with VAT included in your prices.
|
Wow that could be the reason, it's the city of Beragh which is in Northern
Ireland, tricky one. Thanks!
|
That will be it. NI is still partly in and partly out of EU, it is still a real
mess.
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| Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 07:35 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, yorbrick writes:
| | It enters the cart at 19.85 Euro but we cannot tell if it includes VAT or not
as they no longer ship to the UK and so the cart is not valid / cannot be viewed
properly. Just a note about buying from stores that will ship to the UK or changing
address.
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It should VAT excl. It turned out that the confusion was due to the order was
placed using Northern Ireland address which is still part of the EU.
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| Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 07:33 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, yorbrick writes:
| | So it is not that UK orders are costing you more, but Austrian ones are costing
you less than all others?
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In the perspective of VAT, AT and UK orders cost me the same. I'm loosing
19-27% on EU orders though.
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| Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 07:32 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Stellar writes:
| | Check the shipping address, that order probably is going to North Ireland, and
that is considered as a sale inside the EU with VAT included in your prices.
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Wow that could be the reason, it's the city of Beragh which is in Northern
Ireland, tricky one. Thanks!
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 07:30 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
It enters the cart at 19.85 Euro but we cannot tell if it includes VAT or not
as they no longer ship to the UK and so the cart is not valid / cannot be viewed
properly. Just a note about buying from stores that will ship to the UK or changing
address.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 07:25 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, rankster writes:
| | In Taxes, yorbrick writes:
| | You are VAT registered in Austria, aren't you? So a 21 Euro item should have
your VAT removed and then UK VAT added on.
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No, I'm VAT exempt in Austria, but OSS registered in the EU. So an Austrian
buyer and a German see the same prices but AT ones are excl. VAT, DE ones are
incl. VAT. So more money stays in my pocket after AT orders.
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So it is not that UK orders are costing you more, but Austrian ones are costing
you less than all others?
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| Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 07:17 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, rankster writes:
| | In Taxes, rankster writes:
| | I also realised just now that I didn't received the usual customs documentation
issued by BrickLink while it was paid Onsite.
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There is no "Download VAT invoice" button at the order page either.
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Check the shipping address, that order probably is going to North Ireland, and
that is considered as a sale inside the EU with VAT included in your prices.
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| Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 07:05 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, rankster writes:
| | I also realised just now that I didn't received the usual customs documentation
issued by BrickLink while it was paid Onsite.
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There is no "Download VAT invoice" button at the order page either.
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| Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 06:42 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| I also realised just now that I didn't received the usual customs documentation
issued by BrickLink while it was paid Onsite.
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| Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 06:36 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
| | Maybe something changed in your store settings? Maybe UK buyers see 16.54 for
this item? Let's hear from them.
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Nothing changed in my settings. UK buyers should see my base prices as net prices
and VAT should be added on top of that. It was confirmed as below by a UK member.
According to the pic below it sees OK so I don't get it how it happened with
the order from a few days ago...
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| Author: | Give.Me.A.Brick | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 06:14 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, rankster writes:
| | In Taxes, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
| | Shouldn't they see 19.85 minus 20% Austrian VAT, thus 16.54 and in the end
paying 16.54 + 20% UK VAT, hence 19.85 EUR?
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No because I'm VAT exempt in Austria. All my UK orders worked like that before,
20% UK VAT was always added on top of my prices.
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Maybe something changed in your store settings? Maybe UK buyers see 16.54 for
this item? Let's hear from them.
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| Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 06:12 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
| | Shouldn't they see 19.85 minus 20% Austrian VAT, thus 16.54 and in the end
paying 16.54 + 20% UK VAT, hence 19.85 EUR?
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No because I'm VAT exempt in Austria. All my UK orders worked like that before,
20% UK VAT was always added on top of my prices.
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| Author: | Give.Me.A.Brick | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 06:07 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, rankster writes:
| | In Taxes, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
UK buyers should also see EUR 19.85 but at the checkout 20% should be ADDED to
it, at least it worked like that before. But now they see EUR 19.85 but the VAT
is ALREADY INCLUDED in that price.
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Shouldn't they see 19.85 minus 20% Austrian VAT, thus 16.54 and in the end
paying 16.54 + 20% UK VAT, hence 19.85 EUR?
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| Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 06:01 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
UK buyers should also see EUR 19.85 but at the checkout 20% should be ADDED to
it, at least it worked like that before. But now they see EUR 19.85 but the VAT
is ALREADY INCLUDED in that price.
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| Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 05:59 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, iprice writes:
| | Sounds like it's time for me to order from your store!!!
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Haha I just removed UK from my ship to list, sorry :/ Since Brexit I lost 95%
of my UK sales while before UK was in my top 3 countries.
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| Author: | Give.Me.A.Brick | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 05:58 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, rankster writes:
| | In Taxes, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
| | Maybe the order is above £135/~€150 and what you see "deducted" is the
23% Austrian VAT?
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First of all it's not above £135/€150 so BL collects VAT. Secondly Austrian
VAT rate it 20%.
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Yes, of course, I see 23% VAT included but that's the Portuguese VAT.
So, this item:
https://store.bricklink.com/rankster?p=rankster#/shop?o={%22q%22:%2240557%22,%22pgSize%22:100,%22showHomeItems%22:0}
I see at price 19.85 EUR
What does an UK buyer see?
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(Buyers outside UE see items without VAT.)
I believe nothing has changed. I've just received 2 orders from UK (one above,
another below said threshold) and everything is looking fine.
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| Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 05:48 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, yorbrick writes:
| | You are VAT registered in Austria, aren't you? So a 21 Euro item should have
your VAT removed and then UK VAT added on.
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No, I'm VAT exempt in Austria, but OSS registered in the EU. So an Austrian
buyer and a German see the same prices but AT ones are excl. VAT, DE ones are
incl. VAT. So more money stays in my pocket after AT orders.
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Your terms say this ... Prices shown to buyers located inside the EU include
VAT (at buyer's VAT rate), outside the EU exclude VAT.
Prices shown to buyers located in Austria exclude VAT.
Is that correct? Shouldn't you be showing VAT inclusive prices to Austrian
customers (I thought that was an EU regulation, as you are primarily selling
to customers not businesses).
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I can be VAT exempt in my own country if staying below a certain treshold.
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Austria's VAT rate is 20%, same as UK. So I imagine the prices you are showing
do include Austrian VAT, so the UK prices are the same and include UK
VAT (at the same 20% rate).
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 05:43 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, rankster writes:
| | In Taxes, yorbrick writes:
| | They both look to have calculated the VAT perfectly correctly based on the totals
shown in the orders. They are just different ways of displaying it, either with
or without VAT in the breakdown.
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As said VAT was ADDED on top of my prices before for UK orders,
now they are INCLUDED in my prices so something changed.
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In the second order, what was bought? Was it something available to EU buyers
for 17.50 Eur (so 17.50 Eur + VAT for UK buyers), or was it 21.00 Euro to EU
buyers too?
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All EU buyers see EUR 21 price for that item. All UK buyers saw EUR 21 price
for that item as well but at the checkout 20% UK VAT was ADDED on top of that
price, now that 20% is INCLUDED is the EUR 21.
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You are VAT registered in Austria, aren't you? So a 21 Euro item should have
your VAT removed and then UK VAT added on.
Your terms say this ... Prices shown to buyers located inside the EU include
VAT (at buyer's VAT rate), outside the EU exclude VAT.
Prices shown to buyers located in Austria exclude VAT.
Is that correct? Shouldn't you be showing VAT inclusive prices to Austrian
customers (I thought that was an EU regulation, as you are primarily selling
to customers not businesses).
Austria's VAT rate is 20%, same as UK. So I imagine the prices you are showing
do include Austrian VAT, so the UK prices are the same and include UK
VAT (at the same 20% rate).
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| Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 05:38 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
| | Maybe the order is above £135/~€150 and what you see "deducted" is the
23% Austrian VAT?
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First of all it's not above £135/€150 so BL collects VAT. Secondly Austrian
VAT rate it 20%.
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(Buyers outside UE see items without VAT.)
I believe nothing has changed. I've just received 2 orders from UK (one above,
another below said threshold) and everything is looking fine.
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| Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 05:37 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, iprice writes:
| | What's the issue? Included at the start or the end - you're not losing
anything. It's all correct.
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You are reading it wrong. Before the change if a UK buyer bought something for
EUR 21 from my store they paid EUR 21 x 1,20 = EUR 25,20 for it. NOW the VAT
is already INCLUDED in my price of EUR 21 so they pay EUR 21 and BL takes EUR
3,50 away from the transaction so only EUR 17,50 will stay in my pocket instead
of EUR 21.
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| Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 05:33 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, yorbrick writes:
| | They both look to have calculated the VAT perfectly correctly based on the totals
shown in the orders. They are just different ways of displaying it, either with
or without VAT in the breakdown.
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As said VAT was ADDED on top of my prices before for UK orders,
now they are INCLUDED in my prices so something changed.
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In the second order, what was bought? Was it something available to EU buyers
for 17.50 Eur (so 17.50 Eur + VAT for UK buyers), or was it 21.00 Euro to EU
buyers too?
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All EU buyers see EUR 21 price for that item. All UK buyers saw EUR 21 price
for that item as well but at the checkout 20% UK VAT was ADDED on top of that
price, now that 20% is INCLUDED is the EUR 21.
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| Author: | iprice | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 05:33 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, rankster writes:
| | In Taxes, iprice writes:
| | VAT is included in the sale and the shipping
"Order Total: 21.00 INCL VAT"
"Shipping: 10.00 INCL VAT"
VAT is included by the look of things. At the end, it just quotes how much total
VAT was included.
Unless I'm reading it wrong/missing something. Dunno.
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That's the issue... VAT was ADDED on top of my prices before for UK order,
now they are INCLUDED in my prices.
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What's the issue? Included at the start or the end - you're not losing
anything. It's all correct.
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| Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 05:30 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, iprice writes:
| | VAT is included in the sale and the shipping
"Order Total: 21.00 INCL VAT"
"Shipping: 10.00 INCL VAT"
VAT is included by the look of things. At the end, it just quotes how much total
VAT was included.
Unless I'm reading it wrong/missing something. Dunno.
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That's the issue... VAT was ADDED on top of my prices before for UK order,
now they are INCLUDED in my prices.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 05:30 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, rankster writes:
| | In Taxes, yorbrick writes:
| | Was the order over £135? If so, then VAT will not and must not be collected by
Bricklink. Your buyer will have to pay the VAT plus a further collection fee
when they receive it.
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No it wasn't.
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| | Since when the UK import VAT on orders charged the opposite way as it was before?!
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It hasn't.
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It has changed, check the pics below. The first one was placed on Jan 12, the
other was placed on Feb 17.
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They both look to have calculated the VAT perfectly correctly based on the totals
shown in the orders. They are just different ways of displaying it, either with
or without VAT in the breakdown.
In the second order, what was bought? Was it something available to EU buyers
for 17.50 Eur (so 17.50 Eur + VAT for UK buyers), or was it 21.00 Euro to EU
buyers too?
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| Author: | iprice | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 05:26 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, rankster writes:
| | In Taxes, yorbrick writes:
| | Was the order over £135? If so, then VAT will not and must not be collected by
Bricklink. Your buyer will have to pay the VAT plus a further collection fee
when they receive it.
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No it wasn't.
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| | Since when the UK import VAT on orders charged the opposite way as it was before?!
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It hasn't.
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It has changed, check the pics below. The first one was placed on Jan 12, the
other was placed on Feb 17.
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VAT is included in the sale and the shipping
"Order Total: 21.00 INCL VAT"
"Shipping: 10.00 INCL VAT"
VAT is included by the look of things. At the end, it just quotes how much total
VAT was included.
Unless I'm reading it wrong/missing something. Dunno.
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| Author: | Give.Me.A.Brick | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 05:25 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, rankster writes:
| | I've just realised by receiving an order from a UK buyer a few days ago that
the 20% VAT is now deducted from the grand total and not added to it as before.
Since when the UK import VAT on orders charged the opposite way as it was before?!
This way we, sellers lose 20% on UK orders which everyone decides to be good
or bad for their business practices and strategies etc. But my main concern about
this is the lack of communication by BrickLink, again! How on Earth you implement
such an update without letting everyone know about it?! There might be info about
it on the Forums but if I'm not checking it 24/7 I won't be informed
about and that's it? Seriously...
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Maybe the order is above £135/~€150 and what you see "deducted" is the
23% Austrian VAT?
(Buyers outside UE see items without VAT.)
I believe nothing has changed. I've just received 2 orders from UK (one above,
another below said threshold) and everything is looking fine.
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| Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 05:23 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, rankster writes:
| | It has changed, check the pics below. The first one was placed on Jan 12, the
other was placed on Feb 17.
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With the original calculation methodology the latest order should have been EUR
32,40 x 1,20 = EUR 38,88
But now the net amount became the gross amount so intead of EUR 32,40 only EUR
27 will stay in my pocket...
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| Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 05:19 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, yorbrick writes:
| | Was the order over £135? If so, then VAT will not and must not be collected by
Bricklink. Your buyer will have to pay the VAT plus a further collection fee
when they receive it.
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No it wasn't.
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| | Since when the UK import VAT on orders charged the opposite way as it was before?!
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It hasn't.
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It has changed, check the pics below. The first one was placed on Jan 12, the
other was placed on Feb 17.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 05:09 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, rankster writes:
| | I've just realised by receiving an order from a UK buyer a few days ago that
the 20% VAT is now deducted from the grand total and not added to it as before.
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Was the order over £135? If so, then VAT will not and must not be collected by
Bricklink. Your buyer will have to pay the VAT plus a further collection fee
when they receive it.
| | Since when the UK import VAT on orders charged the opposite way as it was before?!
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It hasn't.
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| Author: | iprice | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 05:00 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, rankster writes:
| | I've just realised by receiving an order from a UK buyer a few days ago that
the 20% VAT is now deducted from the grand total and not added to it as before.
Since when the UK import VAT on orders charged the opposite way as it was before?!
This way we, sellers lose 20% on UK orders which everyone decides to be good
or bad for their business practices and strategies etc. But my main concern about
this is the lack of communication by BrickLink, again! How on Earth you implement
such an update without letting everyone know about it?! There might be info about
it on the Forums but if I'm not checking it 24/7 I won't be informed
about and that's it? Seriously...
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Sounds like it's time for me to order from your store!!!
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| Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2023 04:54 | | Subject: | UK VAT calculation methodology change | | Viewed: | 168 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| I've just realised by receiving an order from a UK buyer a few days ago that
the 20% VAT is now deducted from the grand total and not added to it as before.
Since when the UK import VAT on orders charged the opposite way as it was before?!
This way we, sellers lose 20% on UK orders which everyone decides to be good
or bad for their business practices and strategies etc. But my main concern about
this is the lack of communication by BrickLink, again! How on Earth you implement
such an update without letting everyone know about it?! There might be info about
it on the Forums but if I'm not checking it 24/7 I won't be informed
about and that's it? Seriously...
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| Author: | spacemonk32 | | Posted: | Feb 17, 2023 13:48 | | Subject: | Re: Help available | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, molten.brick writes:
| | If I donated toys to a charitable institution, and obtained a receipt for said
donation. What percentage of that amount could I then recoup in my next tax return?
In Taxes, spacemonk32 writes:
| | I just reopened my store after being closed while studying for my CPA. If you
are in the US and would like help filing your return I would be ok with a store
credit trade.
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So sorry, I probably should have specified I work in US Tax only. I forget how
global this community can be. For US taxes you can generally take a 50% deduction
of your income for non cash donations. After the income limit you can use a carryforward.
That rule changes if your filing under a corp or partnership return.
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| Author: | spacemonk32 | | Posted: | Feb 17, 2023 13:42 | | Subject: | Re: Help available | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, qwertyboy writes:
| | In Taxes, spacemonk32 writes:
| | I just reopened my store after being closed while studying for my CPA. If you
are in the US and would like help filing your return I would be ok with a store
credit trade.
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While I appreciate the thought behind the offer and I don't want to rain
on your parade, but taking tax advice from an unknown Internet user and use it
to file your returns would be a bad idea. Same goes for medical advice, legal
advice etc.
And to be even more cynical, you said you studied for your CPA, but you didn't
mention you actually finished your studies with a certification status (not that
it matters in this context).
Anyways, congrats (if you graduated) and Happy Friday!
Niek.
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No worries, My credentials and registration with the IRS are available if requested.
I would always suggest you do your research when looking for tax advice. I know
this stuff can get overwhelming and expensive so I just wanted to offer help
my fellow Lego enthusiast. Happy Friday to you as well, although I wont really
be getting a weekend off until after tax season is done.
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| Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Feb 17, 2023 13:23 | | Subject: | Re: Help available | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, spacemonk32 writes:
| | I just reopened my store after being closed while studying for my CPA. If you
are in the US and would like help filing your return I would be ok with a store
credit trade.
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While I appreciate the thought behind the offer and I don't want to rain
on your parade, but taking tax advice from an unknown Internet user and use it
to file your returns would be a bad idea. Same goes for medical advice, legal
advice etc.
And to be even more cynical, you said you studied for your CPA, but you didn't
mention you actually finished your studies with a certification status (not that
it matters in this context).
Anyways, congrats (if you graduated) and Happy Friday!
Niek.
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| Author: | molten.brick | | Posted: | Feb 17, 2023 12:44 | | Subject: | Re: Help available | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| If I donated toys to a charitable institution, and obtained a receipt for said
donation. What percentage of that amount could I then recoup in my next tax return?
In Taxes, spacemonk32 writes:
| | I just reopened my store after being closed while studying for my CPA. If you
are in the US and would like help filing your return I would be ok with a store
credit trade.
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| Author: | spacemonk32 | | Posted: | Feb 17, 2023 11:32 | | Subject: | Help available | | Viewed: | 100 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| I just reopened my store after being closed while studying for my CPA. If you
are in the US and would like help filing your return I would be ok with a store
credit trade.
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| Author: | DustyFuzzyDragn | | Posted: | Feb 17, 2023 03:19 | | Subject: | Re: VAT collected twice | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | For some reason I remember hearing it’s the other way around. If bricklink charges
tax and customs charges charges tax you need to do the legal stuff with the government
to get it back and it dosnt involve bricklink
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The Swedish Tax Agency thinks otherwise, to cite it, in the section regarding
paying too much VAT on IOSS packages, translated: "In situations where you've
paid VAT twice, once at the time of purchase and once when the item arrived in
Sweden, you need to contact the web store to get the VAT you paid at the time
of purchase refunded."
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| Author: | DustyFuzzyDragn | | Posted: | Feb 17, 2023 03:11 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT added on Instructions by Bricklink | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| I am fairly certain that term is just referring to HS code 49060000, which applies
to blueprints and similar, which has caveats on its own (the UK seems to class
that as a work of art)
In Taxes, peregrinator writes:
| | (1) Items 1 to 7:
(a) do not include plans or drawings for industrial, architectural, engineering,
commercial or similar purposes
I don't see how Lego instructions and manuals do not fall under this exclusion.
In Taxes, Tom1972 writes:
| | I am finding it very annoying that VAT is being added to Purchases for lego instructions
and manuals. Under UK VAT guide lines VAT Notice 701/10 instructions and manuals
are zero rated:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/zero-rating-books-and-printed-matter-for-vat-notice-70110#meaning-of-the-group-3-items
Under section 3.1 you will see the following text:
3.1 Books and booklets
These normally consist of text or illustrations, bound in a cover stiffer than
their pages. They may be printed in any language or characters (including Braille
or shorthand), photocopied, typed or hand-written, so long as they are found
in book or booklet form.
Supplies of any of the following are zero-rated:
literary works
reference books
directories and catalogues
antique books
collections of letters or documents permanently bound in covers
loose-leaf books, manuals or instructions, whether complete with their binder
or not
amendments to zero-rated loose-leaf books, even if issued separately
School work books and other educational texts in question and answer format,
are zero-rated because the spaces provided for the insertion of answers are incidental
to the essential character of the book or booklet. The same applies to exam papers
in question and answer format provided they qualify as books, booklets, brochures,
pamphlets or leaflets.
Please also see section 8 Liability of some common items of printed matter.
This gives a full list of all printed items and clearly shows Instructions and
Manuals as zero rated.
I have written an email to Bricklink Help Centre to make changes as I suspect
hundreds of transactions for instructions/ manuals have been charged VAT when
it should be zero rated.
This is not good for UK buyers who are having 20% added to orders and its not
good for any sellers outside of the Uk as they have no control of this being
added.
I do think that the addition of the VAT field for sets, boxes etc are great and
give users peace of mind however it has to be accurate for the type of goods
the Vat is being applied to.
Urge UK members and have ordered Instructions and been charged VAT, either on
a combined order with other items or as instructions only purchases please contact
Bricklink as this is not correct.
I am sure Bricklink will also be concerned about this address this problem.
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 17, 2023 03:02 | | Subject: | Re: VAT collected twice | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, DustyFuzzyDragn writes:
| | A month late here, but having just been hit myself with a double VAT, it's
important that not only the IOSS number is registered, but also that an HS number
is provided for all items declared - it will otherwise be rejected.
Basically, the postal service or courier will only avoid charging if the IOSS
entry is complete, and their system can handle all the paperwork automatically
- if a human is going to need to find the appropriate HS code, or any other manual
work, they'll just ignore the IOSS entry and do everything manually, and
charge appropriately.
That being said, if the customer has paid VAT when receiving it, BrickLink needs
to refund the VAT they collected. Who knows how to get that done.
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For some reason I remember hearing it’s the other way around. If bricklink charges
tax and customs charges charges tax you need to do the legal stuff with the government
to get it back and it dosnt involve bricklink
| | In Taxes, oasis writes:
| | First time with a VAT problem, don't know where to file for help.
US order, German customer, BL collected VAT, but customer had to pay again when
picking up the package. I'm sending him a copy of the VAT form that was on
the package.
Thanks for any tips.
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| Author: | DustyFuzzyDragn | | Posted: | Feb 17, 2023 02:57 | | Subject: | Re: VAT collected twice | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| A month late here, but having just been hit myself with a double VAT, it's
important that not only the IOSS number is registered, but also that an HS number
is provided for all items declared - it will otherwise be rejected.
Basically, the postal service or courier will only avoid charging if the IOSS
entry is complete, and their system can handle all the paperwork automatically
- if a human is going to need to find the appropriate HS code, or any other manual
work, they'll just ignore the IOSS entry and do everything manually, and
charge appropriately.
That being said, if the customer has paid VAT when receiving it, BrickLink needs
to refund the VAT they collected. Who knows how to get that done.
In Taxes, oasis writes:
| | First time with a VAT problem, don't know where to file for help.
US order, German customer, BL collected VAT, but customer had to pay again when
picking up the package. I'm sending him a copy of the VAT form that was on
the package.
Thanks for any tips.
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 10, 2023 00:12 | | Subject: | Re: Potentially opening a new store | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, BeastMode1735 writes:
| | Hi I was thinking about opening a store and was wondering how Canadian tax would
work. I was wondering if I could get some insight on how it works and if it would
be needed to be reported to CRA or whatnot. Does tax need to be collected for
orders and do I need to apply to CRA or something. I was thinking about selling
spare parts I had for mocs and a few minifigures so its not gonna be a permanent
thing but rather a temporary store to sell to Canadian buyers. Or do you guys
think FB marketplace or some other way to just sell it off is better. Also even
though its not related to taxes but how do you guys calculate shipping and where
do you buy stamps for it.
Thanks in advance for any help.
|
Unless you make more then like 30k within 4 consecutive quarters (yah it’s confusing)
you don’t need to charge sales tax. Legally bricklink is suppose to be collecting
sales tax for Canada right now but they are still talking it over with tax experts
according to their last marketplace letter. Depending how fast your looking to
sell a local marketplace might be better. With bricklink just listing a few parts
usually won’t get many sales so you may end up with dead stock for years if you
don’t keep adding but figures may still sell. Usually I get stamps from rexall
as they often have a save the tax thing on them so you can get them a bit cheaper
(at least by me) but otherwise you can get them at any post office or Canada
posts website. For shipping I only ship letter mail if it’s under 175ish grams
and the parts are under 2ish cm (most places 2cm is not enforced extensively
so bricks moving around in the package going on top of each other won’t usually
result in a package getting returned). Otherwise for parcels Canada post has
a online shipping calculator or check if you have a chit chats near you as they
are cheaper.
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| Author: | BeastMode1735 | | Posted: | Feb 9, 2023 23:58 | | Subject: | Potentially opening a new store | | Viewed: | 109 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| Hi I was thinking about opening a store and was wondering how Canadian tax would
work. I was wondering if I could get some insight on how it works and if it would
be needed to be reported to CRA or whatnot. Does tax need to be collected for
orders and do I need to apply to CRA or something. I was thinking about selling
spare parts I had for mocs and a few minifigures so its not gonna be a permanent
thing but rather a temporary store to sell to Canadian buyers. Or do you guys
think FB marketplace or some other way to just sell it off is better. Also even
though its not related to taxes but how do you guys calculate shipping and where
do you buy stamps for it.
Thanks in advance for any help.
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| Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Feb 9, 2023 10:26 | | Subject: | Re: UK VAT added on Instructions by Bricklink | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| (1) Items 1 to 7:
(a) do not include plans or drawings for industrial, architectural, engineering,
commercial or similar purposes
I don't see how Lego instructions and manuals do not fall under this exclusion.
In Taxes, Tom1972 writes:
| | I am finding it very annoying that VAT is being added to Purchases for lego instructions
and manuals. Under UK VAT guide lines VAT Notice 701/10 instructions and manuals
are zero rated:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/zero-rating-books-and-printed-matter-for-vat-notice-70110#meaning-of-the-group-3-items
Under section 3.1 you will see the following text:
3.1 Books and booklets
These normally consist of text or illustrations, bound in a cover stiffer than
their pages. They may be printed in any language or characters (including Braille
or shorthand), photocopied, typed or hand-written, so long as they are found
in book or booklet form.
Supplies of any of the following are zero-rated:
literary works
reference books
directories and catalogues
antique books
collections of letters or documents permanently bound in covers
loose-leaf books, manuals or instructions, whether complete with their binder
or not
amendments to zero-rated loose-leaf books, even if issued separately
School work books and other educational texts in question and answer format,
are zero-rated because the spaces provided for the insertion of answers are incidental
to the essential character of the book or booklet. The same applies to exam papers
in question and answer format provided they qualify as books, booklets, brochures,
pamphlets or leaflets.
Please also see section 8 Liability of some common items of printed matter.
This gives a full list of all printed items and clearly shows Instructions and
Manuals as zero rated.
I have written an email to Bricklink Help Centre to make changes as I suspect
hundreds of transactions for instructions/ manuals have been charged VAT when
it should be zero rated.
This is not good for UK buyers who are having 20% added to orders and its not
good for any sellers outside of the Uk as they have no control of this being
added.
I do think that the addition of the VAT field for sets, boxes etc are great and
give users peace of mind however it has to be accurate for the type of goods
the Vat is being applied to.
Urge UK members and have ordered Instructions and been charged VAT, either on
a combined order with other items or as instructions only purchases please contact
Bricklink as this is not correct.
I am sure Bricklink will also be concerned about this address this problem.
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| Author: | Tom1972 | | Posted: | Feb 9, 2023 10:04 | | Subject: | UK VAT added on Instructions by Bricklink | | Viewed: | 96 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| I am finding it very annoying that VAT is being added to Purchases for lego instructions
and manuals. Under UK VAT guide lines VAT Notice 701/10 instructions and manuals
are zero rated:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/zero-rating-books-and-printed-matter-for-vat-notice-70110#meaning-of-the-group-3-items
Under section 3.1 you will see the following text:
3.1 Books and booklets
These normally consist of text or illustrations, bound in a cover stiffer than
their pages. They may be printed in any language or characters (including Braille
or shorthand), photocopied, typed or hand-written, so long as they are found
in book or booklet form.
Supplies of any of the following are zero-rated:
literary works
reference books
directories and catalogues
antique books
collections of letters or documents permanently bound in covers
loose-leaf books, manuals or instructions, whether complete with their binder
or not
amendments to zero-rated loose-leaf books, even if issued separately
School work books and other educational texts in question and answer format,
are zero-rated because the spaces provided for the insertion of answers are incidental
to the essential character of the book or booklet. The same applies to exam papers
in question and answer format provided they qualify as books, booklets, brochures,
pamphlets or leaflets.
Please also see section 8 Liability of some common items of printed matter.
This gives a full list of all printed items and clearly shows Instructions and
Manuals as zero rated.
I have written an email to Bricklink Help Centre to make changes as I suspect
hundreds of transactions for instructions/ manuals have been charged VAT when
it should be zero rated.
This is not good for UK buyers who are having 20% added to orders and its not
good for any sellers outside of the Uk as they have no control of this being
added.
I do think that the addition of the VAT field for sets, boxes etc are great and
give users peace of mind however it has to be accurate for the type of goods
the Vat is being applied to.
Urge UK members and have ordered Instructions and been charged VAT, either on
a combined order with other items or as instructions only purchases please contact
Bricklink as this is not correct.
I am sure Bricklink will also be concerned about this address this problem.
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| Author: | bricks2you | | Posted: | Jan 30, 2023 10:06 | | Subject: | Re: IRS delays reporting Paypal/Venmo payments. | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| Thank you
Jim
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