Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | Smron  | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 17:24 | | Subject: | Re: Cross reference multiple parts with their set | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Kenopolis writes:
| | I was going through a used lot of LEGO I purchased, and I thought,
"How cool would it be if Bricklink had a feature that show the sets that parts
might have come from."
Example...
I have 3 red 2x2 cones, and 4 Green Hinge plates, and 2 Yellow 1x6 Wedge plates.
If you could enter these parts into a query, and have the system give you a list
of sets that contain those parts, it could possibly increase sales for many stores
by people wanting to complete sets. Increased sales for Bricklink sellers, means
more income for Bricklink.
You already have a feature that lists all the sets with specific parts, so I
imagine it wouldn't be too difficult to cross reference multiple parts.
But I know nothing about coding, so...
What do you think?
Kenopolis
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I think it would be a great feature.
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| Author: | BricksDirect | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 17:07 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 108 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, QA_Sheryl writes:
| | In Suggestions, BricksDirect writes:
| | Dear BrickLink admins and members,
We see it every day. BrickLink is losing business because it's still not
possible to pay immediately after checkout. We have to cancel our orders because
new members can't find shipping fees. They expect that the shipping fee will
be automically displayed when they put items in their shopping cart. The also
expect that they can pay immediately for their orders. The way it is going now
is way too complicated for new members.
Why is it so hard to create software to let members pay immediately and tell
them the shipping fee. BrickOwl and BrickScout are doing it. They are taking
BrickLink's business over.
What I hear from other sellers is that it's impossible to create it because
not al items have their weight in the BrickLink catalog. Why not solve this with
a standard weight for items that don't have their weight in the BrickLink
catalog? (0.5KG for a set, 0.2KG for a part etc.)
Please, BrickLink do something at this.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Niels Roest
Owner of BricksDirect
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Hi Niels,
As has been stated in numerous other forum posts, we are in the process of creating
Instant Checkout. Since BrickLink has been around much longer than the other
sites you mentioned, our sellers have numerous configurations and setting up
the process is much more complex. We do not want to take away anything from how
our sellers are currently using the checkout process. With this in mind, we have
made great progress in instant checkout so far and will continue to do so without
sacrificing quality. We want to make sure this feature is accurate as well as
efficient.
We appreciate your patience and understanding, but want to let you know that
we have definitely heard the cry from our users for this feature and are working
hard to get it done as soon as possible!
Thanks!
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Dear Sheryl,
Thank you for your reply.
I hope your software engineers will do soon.
It is really needy for BrickLink.
Please make it an option for sellers. So they can choose for instant checkout
or not.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Niels from BricksDirect
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| Author: | BricksDirect | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 17:05 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 83 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Daragh writes:
| | The rates, the weights and different postal methods by country and area is not
something BL needs to even think about. All they need to do is give the user
the ability to complete their shipping methods and rates themselves (or allow
buyers to offer shipping quotes only).
That is how it is done elsewhere and you can set up your methods and rates based
exactly on what services you use, you can amend weight bands to allow for packaging,
have tracking and insurance options, impose weight or size restrictions etc etc
etc.
I would not expect BL or any other company to try and replicate all the rates
available to sellers in different countries around the world and if that is what's
causing the auto-checkout delay we will never see it.
Just give users the parameters to set up their own methods and prices or not
as the member chooses.
That's my 99c worth!
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This is exactly how it should be done! Please BrickLink read this!
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| Author: | bobbyworld | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 16:53 | | Subject: | Re: Cross reference multiple parts with their set | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Kenopolis writes:
| | I was going through a used lot of LEGO I purchased, and I thought,
"How cool would it be if Bricklink had a feature that show the sets that parts
might have come from."
Example...
I have 3 red 2x2 cones, and 4 Green Hinge plates, and 2 Yellow 1x6 Wedge plates.
If you could enter these parts into a query, and have the system give you a list
of sets that contain those parts, it could possibly increase sales for many stores
by people wanting to complete sets. Increased sales for Bricklink sellers, means
more income for Bricklink.
You already have a feature that lists all the sets with specific parts, so I
imagine it wouldn't be too difficult to cross reference multiple parts.
But I know nothing about coding, so...
What do you think?
Kenopolis
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Or I wandered if what sets contained the majority parts in wanted/buying lists?
I know now bricklink has it where you have do each part individually.
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| Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 16:07 | | Subject: | Re: Cross reference multiple parts with their set | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Kenopolis writes:
| | I was going through a used lot of LEGO I purchased, and I thought,
"How cool would it be if Bricklink had a feature that show the sets that parts
might have come from."
Example...
I have 3 red 2x2 cones, and 4 Green Hinge plates, and 2 Yellow 1x6 Wedge plates.
If you could enter these parts into a query, and have the system give you a list
of sets that contain those parts, it could possibly increase sales for many stores
by people wanting to complete sets. Increased sales for Bricklink sellers, means
more income for Bricklink.
You already have a feature that lists all the sets with specific parts, so I
imagine it wouldn't be too difficult to cross reference multiple parts.
But I know nothing about coding, so...
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Like this?
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogIn.asp?viewMulti=Y
Niek.
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| Author: | Kenopolis | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 15:59 | | Subject: | Cross reference multiple parts with their set | | Viewed: | 87 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Discarded | |
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| I was going through a used lot of LEGO I purchased, and I thought,
"How cool would it be if Bricklink had a feature that show the sets that parts
might have come from."
Example...
I have 3 red 2x2 cones, and 4 Green Hinge plates, and 2 Yellow 1x6 Wedge plates.
If you could enter these parts into a query, and have the system give you a list
of sets that contain those parts, it could possibly increase sales for many stores
by people wanting to complete sets. Increased sales for Bricklink sellers, means
more income for Bricklink.
You already have a feature that lists all the sets with specific parts, so I
imagine it wouldn't be too difficult to cross reference multiple parts.
But I know nothing about coding, so...
What do you think?
Kenopolis
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| Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 15:43 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 100 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Reki_Lobsheek writes:
| | It seems some sellers don't care someone is ALWAYS gonna lose money with
such a system: either the buyer being over charged for idiotic flat rate shipping
prices or the seller losing out when people order light but large items that
won't fit in bubble envelopes (for example the minifig wheelchair that came
out last year).
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That is simply not true. BO is living proof of this. Especially for Belgium and
other small countries, you can set up shipping rates on BO that will allow automatic
checkout for the exact price the post office or the courier charges.
The only requirement is that all items in BL need to have proper dimensions,
not just "stud dimensions". This requirement has been recognized by the forum
for years now, and requests have been made to BL to open up some sort of way
for people to contribute these dimensions, but unfortunately BL has never done
so.
For large countries (like Canada and the US), there is an added complexity as
the exact same shipment can have different costs depending on where it ships
to domestically. Even knowing the province is not enough, as they are vast, and
rates differ significantly for where within a province you are shipping. But
as long as you are currently able to ship the exact same package for the exact
same price to a country, you can set up shipping tables for automated checkout
that capture this.
All that is needed are proper dimensions for the BL items.
On BO, if an item doesn't have its dimensions set up yet, the seller can
choose to have it default to a higher shipping cost to be safe, or have the
system default to generating a quote, in which case it works like BL does now.
(But this has been explained over and over again in response to all nay-sayers
unfortunately.)
Niek.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 15:16 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| While sales volumes might not go up, it wouldn't surprise me at all if sales
distributions change. By which, I mean people that offer instant checkout get
more sales at the expense of those that don't. I know if two stores were
equal otherwise, I'd prefer to go with the one that tells me the full cost
and allows me to pay in one go, than another that expects me to place a legally
binding order without telling me the full cost of the order then expects me to
wait for maybe three days before I can pay.
My buying behaviour has changed since the quote feature came along. I often find
I abandon carts if the postage costs and / or fees are not clear from the store's
terms and the quote feature is disabled. I'll also least favourite the store
if I feel they have wasted my time. Whereas I will ask for a quote if offered
and will normally then go through with the order.
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| Author: | mikmo | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 15:12 | | Subject: | Re: Restore the price comparison on Buy Wizard | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| There are already several other threads in the forum and at least on other suggestion
/ vote about this in the forum.
Mikael / MikMo
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 15:06 | | Subject: | Re: Restore the price comparison on Buy Wizard | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, manganschlamm writes:
| | Dear Members of the BrickLink community,
as many of those of you who buy LEGO parts etc. on this site may know, for quite
a while the Buy Wizard (as invoked from a Wanted List) has shown a price comparison
for parts as percentages relative to the average price. This was visible when
selecting an individual shop from the results that were shown by the Buy Wizard,
and price differences were highlighted in green or red (indicating whether the
price of a part was higher or lower than the average price). In addition, a total
average difference (also expressed as percentage) was shown at the bottom of
the list.
This was in my view an extremely useful feature which made it possible to identify
particularly inexpensive parts from a sellers list or highly priced items. I
have used this feature in many cases, and for example have increased the amount
of parts ordered for relatively inexpensive parts and removed very expensive
parts from the list that I then added to my shopping cart.
Now suddenly this feature has been completely removed. I have initially suspected
this to be a bug, but E-mail communication with maintainers of the BrickLink
site has revealed that removal of this feature was intentional. This has been
done quite without notifying the community and without providing any reasons
or explanations. I do not agree with the removal of this feature and believe
that many users - especially Buyers - find this feature extremely useful. I therefore
request that it will be restored and ask for the support of the BrickLink community.
Best regards, Thomas
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Did you read any of the previous discussions or suggestions about the removal?
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| Author: | manganschlamm | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 15:01 | | Subject: | Restore the price comparison on Buy Wizard | | Viewed: | 162 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Discarded | |
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| Dear Members of the BrickLink community,
as many of those of you who buy LEGO parts etc. on this site may know, for quite
a while the Buy Wizard (as invoked from a Wanted List) has shown a price comparison
for parts as percentages relative to the average price. This was visible when
selecting an individual shop from the results that were shown by the Buy Wizard,
and price differences were highlighted in green or red (indicating whether the
price of a part was higher or lower than the average price). In addition, a total
average difference (also expressed as percentage) was shown at the bottom of
the list.
This was in my view an extremely useful feature which made it possible to identify
particularly inexpensive parts from a sellers list or highly priced items. I
have used this feature in many cases, and for example have increased the amount
of parts ordered for relatively inexpensive parts and removed very expensive
parts from the list that I then added to my shopping cart.
Now suddenly this feature has been completely removed. I have initially suspected
this to be a bug, but E-mail communication with maintainers of the BrickLink
site has revealed that removal of this feature was intentional. This has been
done quite without notifying the community and without providing any reasons
or explanations. I do not agree with the removal of this feature and believe
that many users - especially Buyers - find this feature extremely useful. I therefore
request that it will be restored and ask for the support of the BrickLink community.
Best regards, Thomas
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| Author: | QA_Sheryl | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 14:56 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 144 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, BricksDirect writes:
| | Dear BrickLink admins and members,
We see it every day. BrickLink is losing business because it's still not
possible to pay immediately after checkout. We have to cancel our orders because
new members can't find shipping fees. They expect that the shipping fee will
be automically displayed when they put items in their shopping cart. The also
expect that they can pay immediately for their orders. The way it is going now
is way too complicated for new members.
Why is it so hard to create software to let members pay immediately and tell
them the shipping fee. BrickOwl and BrickScout are doing it. They are taking
BrickLink's business over.
What I hear from other sellers is that it's impossible to create it because
not al items have their weight in the BrickLink catalog. Why not solve this with
a standard weight for items that don't have their weight in the BrickLink
catalog? (0.5KG for a set, 0.2KG for a part etc.)
Please, BrickLink do something at this.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Niels Roest
Owner of BricksDirect
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Hi Niels,
As has been stated in numerous other forum posts, we are in the process of creating
Instant Checkout. Since BrickLink has been around much longer than the other
sites you mentioned, our sellers have numerous configurations and setting up
the process is much more complex. We do not want to take away anything from how
our sellers are currently using the checkout process. With this in mind, we have
made great progress in instant checkout so far and will continue to do so without
sacrificing quality. We want to make sure this feature is accurate as well as
efficient.
We appreciate your patience and understanding, but want to let you know that
we have definitely heard the cry from our users for this feature and are working
hard to get it done as soon as possible!
Thanks!
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| Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 14:31 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 86 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Bricklord writes:
| | What part of Canada Post's guidelines are you wilfully ignoring? it is not
just weight that determines a rate, but the volume as well. Or are you only shipping
as parcels? If so, you are costing your customers far more than they should be
paying.
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I am not ignoring any of it. Nothing that you have written above addresses what
I wrote below, but I will answer your questions anyway.
I am not only shipping as parcels. The vast majority of orders within Canada
ship as oversized lettermail, and the vast majority of orders outside of Canada
ship as Light Packet. But it doesn't matter what I ship it as, because as
I said below, I charge a FLAT RATE for shipping. Which means, as I said below,
that for orders over 150 grams, buyers pay LESS for shipping. Not more, as you
claim. Less.
If you don't believe me, just go check. That's in my store. Other sellers
can (and do) do it differently. Some charge more, some charge less. Some charge
a lot more, some charge nothing.
The indisputable fact is that automated shipping calculation does not AUTOMATICALLY
cause higher shipping costs for buyers. That is totally up to the sellers.
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, Bricklord writes:
| | I completely concur. The Canada Post rates/tables would make any such automatic
shipping calculation even more overpriced than the exact rate they already charge.
An automatic checkout with the invoice would be an improvement, but for each
order the seller MUST calculate the shipping.
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This is 100% false. I don't know why it keeps coming up. We know with absolute
certainty that automato shipping calculation need not result in overcharging
for shipping.
If a seller WANTS to charge more for shipping, they can set up their options
to do so. If they want to charge less for shipping, they can set up the options
to do so. On the other site, I have flat-rate shipping. This means that for orders
over 150 grams, buyers pay LOWER shipping costs in my store on the site that
has auto checkout.
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| Author: | Bricklord | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 14:15 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| You are 1c short of grasping the problem. Postal rate are not just determined
by weight, but by volume as well. Or are you suggesting that sellers should only
ship as parcels, regardless of how much more that will cost buyers, and thereby
discourage buyers from shopping?
In Suggestions, Daragh writes:
| | The rates, the weights and different postal methods by country and area is not
something BL needs to even think about. All they need to do is give the user
the ability to complete their shipping methods and rates themselves (or allow
buyers to offer shipping quotes only).
That is how it is done elsewhere and you can set up your methods and rates based
exactly on what services you use, you can amend weight bands to allow for packaging,
have tracking and insurance options, impose weight or size restrictions etc etc
etc.
I would not expect BL or any other company to try and replicate all the rates
available to sellers in different countries around the world and if that is what's
causing the auto-checkout delay we will never see it.
Just give users the parameters to set up their own methods and prices or not
as the member chooses.
That's my 99c worth!
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| Author: | Bricklord | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 14:12 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| What part of Canada Post's guidelines are you wilfully ignoring? it is not
just weight that determines a rate, but the volume as well. Or are you only shipping
as parcels? If so, you are costing your customers far more than they should be
paying.
In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, Bricklord writes:
| | I completely concur. The Canada Post rates/tables would make any such automatic
shipping calculation even more overpriced than the exact rate they already charge.
An automatic checkout with the invoice would be an improvement, but for each
order the seller MUST calculate the shipping.
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This is 100% false. I don't know why it keeps coming up. We know with absolute
certainty that automato shipping calculation need not result in overcharging
for shipping.
If a seller WANTS to charge more for shipping, they can set up their options
to do so. If they want to charge less for shipping, they can set up the options
to do so. On the other site, I have flat-rate shipping. This means that for orders
over 150 grams, buyers pay LOWER shipping costs in my store on the site that
has auto checkout.
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Marc.
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| Author: | bb35566 | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 14:07 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 75 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Do you realy believe they would listen to you?? To anybody???
THIS IS NOT THE SAME BRICKLINK.
Even the admins are not the admins.
Exemaple: somebody likes to remove feedback. They will.They do not ask, they
just do.
Why? Because it is easyer. Bricklink is tjust wants youre money. Nothing more
nothing less. this is NOT a fan page anymore.
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| Author: | Daragh | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 14:03 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| The rates, the weights and different postal methods by country and area is not
something BL needs to even think about. All they need to do is give the user
the ability to complete their shipping methods and rates themselves (or allow
buyers to offer shipping quotes only).
That is how it is done elsewhere and you can set up your methods and rates based
exactly on what services you use, you can amend weight bands to allow for packaging,
have tracking and insurance options, impose weight or size restrictions etc etc
etc.
I would not expect BL or any other company to try and replicate all the rates
available to sellers in different countries around the world and if that is what's
causing the auto-checkout delay we will never see it.
Just give users the parameters to set up their own methods and prices or not
as the member chooses.
That's my 99c worth!
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| Author: | Reki_Lobsheek | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 13:48 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 88 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| As long as it stays an OPTION and never becomes obligatory, I'm fine with
it.
It seems some sellers don't care someone is ALWAYS gonna lose money with
such a system: either the buyer being over charged for idiotic flat rate shipping
prices or the seller losing out when people order light but large items that
won't fit in bubble envelopes (for example the minifig wheelchair that came
out last year).
Only really, really big sellers can afford to lose money on shipping. Most (successful)
web stores offer a variety of extremely cheap flat rates or even free shippingbecause
they work together with shipping companies and pay them peanuts for deliveries
as long as the daily packages remain in the double digits.
In any case they are NEVER working together with the standard national postal
service as they rarely offer better prices than carriers.
I realize there are stores on BL who deal with such volumes who might benefit
from such a system, but at the same time I think some people are daydreaming
about incredibly increasing sales volumes because of this one feature (I do hope
for their sake I am wrong about this).
I've been on this site for over 13 years now and in my personal experience
this has always been a place for both "hobby sellers" and professional sellers.
I hope it can remain that way.
This might sound harsh, but if the big sellers are feeling BL is not catering
to their every need, perhaps they should consider seling Lego from their own
website. Let's see how much their sales will go up then when everything is
technically working as desired.
Reki
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| Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 12:58 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 88 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, technoluddite writes:
| | I don't think BL could concoct a system to account for all the variances
of each postal system in the EU, North America etc. to allow immediate posting
of shipping costs.
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BL doesn't need to. The sellers would. The solution ALREADY EXISTS on other
sites, so we know that it is possible.
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Yes we know it can be done (reasonably OK) on other sites but we so far don't
know if BL can deliver it here... just because the other guys do it doesn't
mean that is what we will get here as the site has a different structure/programming.
I'm just patiently waiting and will form an opinion on whether here it will
be a good or bad thing, or something in between when I see how it is going
to work here, not on another site.
Robert
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Actually, it already exists on BrickLink as well. It just isn't customer-facing.
--
Marc.
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well when it faces this customer I'll evaluate it, until then it might as
well face the moon 
Robert
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| Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 12:41 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 77 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Bricklord writes:
| | I completely concur. The Canada Post rates/tables would make any such automatic
shipping calculation even more overpriced than the exact rate they already charge.
An automatic checkout with the invoice would be an improvement, but for each
order the seller MUST calculate the shipping.
|
This is 100% false. I don't know why it keeps coming up. We know with absolute
certainty that automato shipping calculation need not result in overcharging
for shipping.
If a seller WANTS to charge more for shipping, they can set up their options
to do so. If they want to charge less for shipping, they can set up the options
to do so. On the other site, I have flat-rate shipping. This means that for orders
over 150 grams, buyers pay LOWER shipping costs in my store on the site that
has auto checkout.
--
Marc.
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| Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 12:34 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, technoluddite writes:
| | I don't think BL could concoct a system to account for all the variances
of each postal system in the EU, North America etc. to allow immediate posting
of shipping costs.
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BL doesn't need to. The sellers would. The solution ALREADY EXISTS on other
sites, so we know that it is possible.
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Yes we know it can be done (reasonably OK) on other sites but we so far don't
know if BL can deliver it here... just because the other guys do it doesn't
mean that is what we will get here as the site has a different structure/programming.
I'm just patiently waiting and will form an opinion on whether here it will
be a good or bad thing, or something in between when I see how it is going
to work here, not on another site.
Robert
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Actually, it already exists on BrickLink as well. It just isn't customer-facing.
--
Marc.
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| Author: | Bricklord | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 12:08 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 86 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I completely concur. The Canada Post rates/tables would make any such automatic
shipping calculation even more overpriced than the exact rate they already charge.
An automatic checkout with the invoice would be an improvement, but for each
order the seller MUST calculate the shipping.
But to ask Admin to do anything is a waste of time. They do nothing as is, why
should you expect them to change?
In Suggestions, technoluddite writes:
| | I here what you're saying about listing shipping fees but in many places
it's complicated by the local Postal System requirements.
Here in Canada, I can ship anything that fits in an envelope less than 3/4" (2
cm) thick for about $2. However, anything thicker (even some minifigure headgear
and/or accessories) bumps it up to a parcel and the costs at least double!
The weight is relatively unimportant up to about 500 grams, it is all about the
dimensions.
I don't think BL could concoct a system to account for all the variances
of each postal system in the EU, North America etc. to allow immediate posting
of shipping costs.
For Ebay it's easy enough as the seller only has to account for one item
at a time.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Chris
HammertownBricks
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| Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 12:02 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 75 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, technoluddite writes:
| | I here what you're saying about listing shipping fees but in many places
it's complicated by the local Postal System requirements.
Here in Canada, I can ship anything that fits in an envelope less than 3/4" (2
cm) thick for about $2. However, anything thicker (even some minifigure headgear
and/or accessories) bumps it up to a parcel and the costs at least double!
The weight is relatively unimportant up to about 500 grams, it is all about the
dimensions.
I don't think BL could concoct a system to account for all the variances
of each postal system in the EU, North America etc. to allow immediate posting
of shipping costs.
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BL doesn't need to. The sellers would. The solution ALREADY EXISTS on other
sites, so we know that it is possible.
--
Marc.
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Yes we know it can be done (reasonably OK) on other sites but we so far don't
know if BL can deliver it here... just because the other guys do it doesn't
mean that is what we will get here as the site has a different structure/programming.
I'm just patiently waiting and will form an opinion on whether here it will
be a good or bad thing, or something in between when I see how it is going
to work here, not on another site.
Robert
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| Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 11:54 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 82 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, technoluddite writes:
| | I here what you're saying about listing shipping fees but in many places
it's complicated by the local Postal System requirements.
Here in Canada, I can ship anything that fits in an envelope less than 3/4" (2
cm) thick for about $2. However, anything thicker (even some minifigure headgear
and/or accessories) bumps it up to a parcel and the costs at least double!
The weight is relatively unimportant up to about 500 grams, it is all about the
dimensions.
I don't think BL could concoct a system to account for all the variances
of each postal system in the EU, North America etc. to allow immediate posting
of shipping costs.
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BL doesn't need to. The sellers would. The solution ALREADY EXISTS on other
sites, so we know that it is possible.
--
Marc.
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| Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 11:34 | | Subject: | Re: Suggest: Customs Acknowledgment in Checkout | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Heartbricker writes:
| | Voted yes but skeptic about it getting implemented as it may cause some second
thoughts on the buyer's side which may not be in BL best interest as they
collect the commission either way.
Is there any precedent on any other shopping site that has this feature?
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Second thoughts on the buyer's side are exactly what should happen. Same
thing with shipping charges. If they put a buyer off, better to do so before
the order is placed.
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| Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 11:23 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 97 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, RoswellGinny writes:
| | It looks like B.Scout is just getting started. They have 22 stores with one
in the Netherlands and the rest in Germany. I don't think that they are
going to kill BrickLink anytime soon.
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Sites like the Owl and Scout aren't out to kill BrickLink. They just want
to take advantage of a percentage of the market they feel BL is missing out on.
Btw, the Scout site is using BL item names and colors:
* | | 4870c03 (Inv) Plate, Modified 2 x 2 Thin with Dual Wheels Holder - Split Pins with Light Bluish Gray Wheels and Black Tires (4870 / 4624 / 3139)
Parts: Aircraft |
Scout:
Plate, Modified 2 x 2 Thin with Dual Wheels Holder - Split Pins with Light
Bluish Gray Wheels and Black Tires (4624 / 3139)
The item name must have been copied before "4870" was added to it in Nov 2015
and after "type 1" was removed in Mar 2013.
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| Author: | technoluddite | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 10:43 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 129 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I here what you're saying about listing shipping fees but in many places
it's complicated by the local Postal System requirements.
Here in Canada, I can ship anything that fits in an envelope less than 3/4" (2
cm) thick for about $2. However, anything thicker (even some minifigure headgear
and/or accessories) bumps it up to a parcel and the costs at least double!
The weight is relatively unimportant up to about 500 grams, it is all about the
dimensions.
I don't think BL could concoct a system to account for all the variances
of each postal system in the EU, North America etc. to allow immediate posting
of shipping costs.
For Ebay it's easy enough as the seller only has to account for one item
at a time.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Chris
HammertownBricks
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| Author: | WildBricks | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 08:56 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 105 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| It looks like B.Scout is just getting started. They have 22 stores with one
in the Netherlands and the rest in Germany. I don't think that they are
going to kill BrickLink anytime soon.
In Suggestions, Cob writes:
| | In Suggestions, BricksDirect writes:
| | Dear BrickLink admins and members,
We see it every day. BrickLink is losing business because it's still not
possible to pay immediately after checkout. We have to cancel our orders because
new members can't find shipping fees. They expect that the shipping fee will
be automically displayed when they put items in their shopping cart. The also
expect that they can pay immediately for their orders. The way it is going now
is way too complicated for new members.
Why is it so hard to create software to let members pay immediately and tell
them the shipping fee. BrickOwl and BrickScout are doing it. They are taking
BrickLink's business over.
What I hear from other sellers is that it's impossible to create it because
not al items have their weight in the BrickLink catalog. Why not solve this with
a standard weight for items that don't have their weight in the BrickLink
catalog? (0.5KG for a set, 0.2KG for a part etc.)
Please, BrickLink do something at this.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Niels Roest
Owner of BricksDirect
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Never heard of BrickScout until now, is there a Sync option for BrickScout?
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| Author: | Cob | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 08:34 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 125 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, BricksDirect writes:
| | Dear BrickLink admins and members,
We see it every day. BrickLink is losing business because it's still not
possible to pay immediately after checkout. We have to cancel our orders because
new members can't find shipping fees. They expect that the shipping fee will
be automically displayed when they put items in their shopping cart. The also
expect that they can pay immediately for their orders. The way it is going now
is way too complicated for new members.
Why is it so hard to create software to let members pay immediately and tell
them the shipping fee. BrickOwl and BrickScout are doing it. They are taking
BrickLink's business over.
What I hear from other sellers is that it's impossible to create it because
not al items have their weight in the BrickLink catalog. Why not solve this with
a standard weight for items that don't have their weight in the BrickLink
catalog? (0.5KG for a set, 0.2KG for a part etc.)
Please, BrickLink do something at this.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Niels Roest
Owner of BricksDirect
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Never heard of BrickScout until now, is there a Sync option for BrickScout?
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| Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 07:33 | | Subject: | Re: Suggest: Customs Acknowledgment in Checkout | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Suggestions, DadsAFOL writes:
| | There was another thread today about customs/VAT on import, and I thought
I had suggested this in the past but I couldn't find it in searching the
suggestion history, so I'm submitting it now.
Quick & Easy:
1. Create a simple pop-up in the checkout process for international orders that
warns the buyer that they are fully responsible for any customs/duties/VAT/collection
fees etc that their country may charge for importing goods. Buyer must check
the "I acknowledge" button before being allowed to complete checkout.
Further Enhancements:
2. Store a table with the known thresholds for each country (e.g. £15 for UK,
€22 for Netherlands, etc). This data can be simply crowdsourced. Only display
the popup when the order value exceeds the threshold for the buyer's country.
3. Show the customs warning message in English AND the national language of the
buyer's country in the message box.
4. Add a database element to the orders table to record the timestamp that the
buyer acknowledged the customs warning. Display the Edit Order UI page for seller's
reference.
5. When a buyer is adding items to cart that exceed the customs threshold, display
a warning icon in the shopping cart indicator. Mouseover text on the warning
icon should show "This order may be subject to import duties for {buyer's
country}"
I am NOT suggesting that BL get in the business of managing customs and import
duties. This is simply a warning message to the buyer to educate them. The
goal of this suggestion is buyer satisfaction and reducing frustration/surprise
for buyers that aren't aware of their own country's rules.
-Jason
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Found it:-
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=592577
can't believe that is over 5 years ago, time flies here!
I think I'd make some detail changes if I wrote that today but I'd stand
by it all in principle and it is very similar in many ways to what you have suggested.
Robert
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| Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 07:09 | | Subject: | Re: Suggest: Customs Acknowledgment in Checkout | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, DadsAFOL writes:
| | There was another thread today about customs/VAT on import, and I thought
I had suggested this in the past but I couldn't find it in searching the
suggestion history, so I'm submitting it now.
Quick & Easy:
1. Create a simple pop-up in the checkout process for international orders that
warns the buyer that they are fully responsible for any customs/duties/VAT/collection
fees etc that their country may charge for importing goods. Buyer must check
the "I acknowledge" button before being allowed to complete checkout.
Further Enhancements:
2. Store a table with the known thresholds for each country (e.g. £15 for UK,
€22 for Netherlands, etc). This data can be simply crowdsourced. Only display
the popup when the order value exceeds the threshold for the buyer's country.
3. Show the customs warning message in English AND the national language of the
buyer's country in the message box.
4. Add a database element to the orders table to record the timestamp that the
buyer acknowledged the customs warning. Display the Edit Order UI page for seller's
reference.
5. When a buyer is adding items to cart that exceed the customs threshold, display
a warning icon in the shopping cart indicator. Mouseover text on the warning
icon should show "This order may be subject to import duties for {buyer's
country}"
I am NOT suggesting that BL get in the business of managing customs and import
duties. This is simply a warning message to the buyer to educate them. The
goal of this suggestion is buyer satisfaction and reducing frustration/surprise
for buyers that aren't aware of their own country's rules.
-Jason
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Yes, I suggested something similar in the past too. I also suggested making deliberate
customs fraud a punishable offence to discourage people from using this to enter
into customs form fudging negotiations though.
Robert
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 07:00 | | Subject: | Re: Suggest: Customs Acknowledgment in Checkout | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Yes, but so long as it is implemented correctly.
For example, although EU-EU transactions are international, they do not fall
under this category, so there would be no need of showing it - and showing it
may cause more confusion than not.
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| Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 06:00 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 139 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
| | In Suggestions, BricksDirect writes:
| | Dear BrickLink admins and members,
We see it every day. BrickLink is losing business because it's still not
possible to pay immediately after checkout. We have to cancel our orders because
new members can't find shipping fees. They expect that the shipping fee will
be automically displayed when they put items in their shopping cart. The also
expect that they can pay immediately for their orders. The way it is going now
is way too complicated for new members.
Why is it so hard to create software to let members pay immediately and tell
them the shipping fee. BrickOwl and BrickScout are doing it. They are taking
BrickLink's business over.
What I hear from other sellers is that it's impossible to create it because
not al items have their weight in the BrickLink catalog. Why not solve this with
a standard weight for items that don't have their weight in the BrickLink
catalog? (0.5KG for a set, 0.2KG for a part etc.)
Please, BrickLink do something at this.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Niels Roest
Owner of BricksDirect
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I think the problem is not item weight but size.
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+1 the main issue here in UK too. Weight is quite simple to fix - just fill in
the missing ones.
Robert
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 05:48 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 99 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
| | In Suggestions, BricksDirect writes:
| | Dear BrickLink admins and members,
We see it every day. BrickLink is losing business because it's still not
possible to pay immediately after checkout. We have to cancel our orders because
new members can't find shipping fees. They expect that the shipping fee will
be automically displayed when they put items in their shopping cart. The also
expect that they can pay immediately for their orders. The way it is going now
is way too complicated for new members.
Why is it so hard to create software to let members pay immediately and tell
them the shipping fee. BrickOwl and BrickScout are doing it. They are taking
BrickLink's business over.
What I hear from other sellers is that it's impossible to create it because
not al items have their weight in the BrickLink catalog. Why not solve this with
a standard weight for items that don't have their weight in the BrickLink
catalog? (0.5KG for a set, 0.2KG for a part etc.)
Please, BrickLink do something at this.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Niels Roest
Owner of BricksDirect
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I think the problem is not item weight but size.
Would you like the system to assume parcel shipping on all orders?
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Maybe you want to double check your shipping cost table, the prices are outdated
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 05:45 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 111 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, BricksDirect writes:
| | Dear BrickLink admins and members,
We see it every day. BrickLink is losing business because it's still not
possible to pay immediately after checkout. We have to cancel our orders because
new members can't find shipping fees. They expect that the shipping fee will
be automically displayed when they put items in their shopping cart. The also
expect that they can pay immediately for their orders. The way it is going now
is way too complicated for new members.
Why is it so hard to create software to let members pay immediately and tell
them the shipping fee. BrickOwl and BrickScout are doing it. They are taking
BrickLink's business over.
What I hear from other sellers is that it's impossible to create it because
not al items have their weight in the BrickLink catalog. Why not solve this with
a standard weight for items that don't have their weight in the BrickLink
catalog? (0.5KG for a set, 0.2KG for a part etc.)
Please, BrickLink do something at this.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Niels Roest
Owner of BricksDirect
|
I think the problem is not item weight but size.
Would you like the system to assume parcel shipping on all orders?
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| Author: | BricksDirect | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2017 05:29 | | Subject: | BrickLink you are losing business | | Viewed: | 526 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Implemented | |
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| Dear BrickLink admins and members,
We see it every day. BrickLink is losing business because it's still not
possible to pay immediately after checkout. We have to cancel our orders because
new members can't find shipping fees. They expect that the shipping fee will
be automically displayed when they put items in their shopping cart. The also
expect that they can pay immediately for their orders. The way it is going now
is way too complicated for new members.
Why is it so hard to create software to let members pay immediately and tell
them the shipping fee. BrickOwl and BrickScout are doing it. They are taking
BrickLink's business over.
What I hear from other sellers is that it's impossible to create it because
not al items have their weight in the BrickLink catalog. Why not solve this with
a standard weight for items that don't have their weight in the BrickLink
catalog? (0.5KG for a set, 0.2KG for a part etc.)
Please, BrickLink do something at this.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Niels Roest
Owner of BricksDirect
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| Author: | Heartbricker | | Posted: | Mar 19, 2017 22:40 | | Subject: | Re: Suggest: Customs Acknowledgment in Checkout | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Voted yes but skeptic about it getting implemented as it may cause some second
thoughts on the buyer's side which may not be in BL best interest as they
collect the commission either way.
Is there any precedent on any other shopping site that has this feature?
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Mar 19, 2017 21:10 | | Subject: | Re: Suggest: Customs Acknowledgment in Checkout | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, DadsAFOL writes:
| | There was another thread today about customs/VAT on import, and I thought
I had suggested this in the past but I couldn't find it in searching the
suggestion history, so I'm submitting it now.
Quick & Easy:
1. Create a simple pop-up in the checkout process for international orders that
warns the buyer that they are fully responsible for any customs/duties/VAT/collection
fees etc that their country may charge for importing goods. Buyer must check
the "I acknowledge" button before being allowed to complete checkout.
Further Enhancements:
2. Store a table with the known thresholds for each country (e.g. £15 for UK,
€22 for Netherlands, etc). This data can be simply crowdsourced. Only display
the popup when the order value exceeds the threshold for the buyer's country.
3. Show the customs warning message in English AND the national language of the
buyer's country in the message box.
4. Add a database element to the orders table to record the timestamp that the
buyer acknowledged the customs warning. Display the Edit Order UI page for seller's
reference.
5. When a buyer is adding items to cart that exceed the customs threshold, display
a warning icon in the shopping cart indicator. Mouseover text on the warning
icon should show "This order may be subject to import duties for {buyer's
country}"
I am NOT suggesting that BL get in the business of managing customs and import
duties. This is simply a warning message to the buyer to educate them. The
goal of this suggestion is buyer satisfaction and reducing frustration/surprise
for buyers that aren't aware of their own country's rules.
-Jason
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Does it have to be a popup? I usually hate those.
I have no objection to adding an additional (separate) step with a checkbox to
the order checkout.
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| Author: | Daragh | | Posted: | Mar 19, 2017 20:42 | | Subject: | Re: Suggest: Customs Acknowledgment in Checkout | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Excellent idea. Definitely Yes.
Even just the basic warning on the check-out page would be great and should be
easy to implement with the rest at a later date.
In Suggestions, DadsAFOL writes:
| | There was another thread today about customs/VAT on import, and I thought
I had suggested this in the past but I couldn't find it in searching the
suggestion history, so I'm submitting it now.
Quick & Easy:
1. Create a simple pop-up in the checkout process for international orders that
warns the buyer that they are fully responsible for any customs/duties/VAT/collection
fees etc that their country may charge for importing goods. Buyer must check
the "I acknowledge" button before being allowed to complete checkout.
Further Enhancements:
2. Store a table with the known thresholds for each country (e.g. £15 for UK,
€22 for Netherlands, etc). This data can be simply crowdsourced. Only display
the popup when the order value exceeds the threshold for the buyer's country.
3. Show the customs warning message in English AND the national language of the
buyer's country in the message box.
4. Add a database element to the orders table to record the timestamp that the
buyer acknowledged the customs warning. Display the Edit Order UI page for seller's
reference.
5. When a buyer is adding items to cart that exceed the customs threshold, display
a warning icon in the shopping cart indicator. Mouseover text on the warning
icon should show "This order may be subject to import duties for {buyer's
country}"
I am NOT suggesting that BL get in the business of managing customs and import
duties. This is simply a warning message to the buyer to educate them. The
goal of this suggestion is buyer satisfaction and reducing frustration/surprise
for buyers that aren't aware of their own country's rules.
-Jason
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| Author: | Geniac | | Posted: | Mar 19, 2017 16:17 | | Subject: | Re: Suggest: Customs Acknowledgment in Checkout | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, DadsAFOL writes:
| | There was another thread today about customs/VAT on import, and I thought
I had suggested this in the past but I couldn't find it in searching the
suggestion history, so I'm submitting it now.
Quick & Easy:
1. Create a simple pop-up in the checkout process for international orders that
warns the buyer that they are fully responsible for any customs/duties/VAT/collection
fees etc that their country may charge for importing goods. Buyer must check
the "I acknowledge" button before being allowed to complete checkout.
Further Enhancements:
2. Store a table with the known thresholds for each country (e.g. £15 for UK,
€22 for Netherlands, etc). This data can be simply crowdsourced. Only display
the popup when the order value exceeds the threshold for the buyer's country.
3. Show the customs warning message in English AND the national language of the
buyer's country in the message box.
4. Add a database element to the orders table to record the timestamp that the
buyer acknowledged the customs warning. Display the Edit Order UI page for seller's
reference.
5. When a buyer is adding items to cart that exceed the customs threshold, display
a warning icon in the shopping cart indicator. Mouseover text on the warning
icon should show "This order may be subject to import duties for {buyer's
country}"
I am NOT suggesting that BL get in the business of managing customs and import
duties. This is simply a warning message to the buyer to educate them. The
goal of this suggestion is buyer satisfaction and reducing frustration/surprise
for buyers that aren't aware of their own country's rules.
-Jason
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HUGE yes.
Not long ago we had an international order where the buyer then contacted us
to take care of the customs fee so he could pick up his package. While he wrote
to us in English, it was obviously not his first language. We had a bit of back
and forth before he understood that he was responsible for customs.
This was not an issue we'd ever had before. I guess that I'd (wrongly)
assumed that people making international purchases already understood the customs
rules in their countries. We have since added it to our store terms, but we
all know that not all buyers read those...especially if it is in another language.
This was a relatively new buyer, and it's likely his perception of the transaction
was at least somewhat marred by the charges he did not expect.
This sounds like a great way to ensure buyers are not only aware of possible
charges, but can be give at least a rough estimate of what the charge might be...all
before they have finalized the order.
Great idea, and thanks for writing it up!
Ann
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| Author: | bb863711 | | Posted: | Mar 19, 2017 12:26 | | Subject: | Re: Used lego | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, montana_girl writes:
| | In Suggestions, Cosy writes:
| | In Suggestions, vxb writes:
| | sorry I am going to disagree most of the searches turn up closed stores and stores with little inventory, so I will have to manually have to search through hundreds of stores to find one that specifically deals in used parts as I don't mess around with small orders.
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Ok.
Not knowing exactly what you want except larger quantities of used brick, you
may well find it hard to narrow things down.
A large wanted list will always make finding everything much harder, but consider
these two examples.
1. I just searched for simple BLEY 1x2 brick (let's ignore that you might
prefer old light grey). If I want a minimum 0f 100 Used 1x2s I get 16 stores.
If I want 1000+ there are only 2 stores. This is all USA, but bear with me.
The cheaper of these is Brick-N-Brac. Looking at their inventory they are mostly
a Used shop. Out of 9000+ Lots the vast majority are used (only 67 New Lots).
Well I don't know this store and can't vouch for them, but they look
like a good Used candidate.
2. Use your Wanted List to find bricks. Again maybe not your example, but pretend
I want Used 1x2 BLEY Masonry Bricks this time. I have that on my Wanted List
as Used with a minimum of 50. There is only 1 store, Ace of Bricks, that has
50 or more of these as Used Lots.
If you extrapolate either case I don't see how you would not find what you
are looking for and especially once looking a bit also find some store in particular
that specialize in large quantities of Used parts.
Most stores I expect dealing with Used parts will not have large individual part
quantities. You are more likely to find variety in Used parts but less depth.
My 2 cents.
Good Luck with your searches.
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I second this! (Also, side note... I've bought from Bric-N-Brac several times
- good store!)
I sell primarily used parts (hence the name), but only have limited amounts of
each part. Why? Because used bricks we buy are often scratched, chewed, marred
and faded by sunlight. So a majority of the bricks end up in a bin to be played
with by my grandsons. It's hard to find a bulk of unmarred used bricks and
other parts. We try to sell only the best, so that limits are supply. lol I never said that I want the best I want used beat up chewed on there is demand maybe it's just me.
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| Author: | 16thlevelbricks | | Posted: | Mar 19, 2017 11:55 | | Subject: | Re: Suggest: Customs Acknowledgment in Checkout | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, Dr_Blockenstein writes:
| | In Suggestions, DadsAFOL writes:
| | There was another thread today about customs/VAT on import, and I thought
I had suggested this in the past but I couldn't find it in searching the
suggestion history, so I'm submitting it now.
Quick & Easy:
1. Create a simple pop-up in the checkout process for international orders that
warns the buyer that they are fully responsible for any customs/duties/VAT/collection
fees etc that their country may charge for importing goods. Buyer must check
the "I acknowledge" button before being allowed to complete checkout.
Further Enhancements:
2. Store a table with the known thresholds for each country (e.g. £15 for UK,
€22 for Netherlands, etc). This data can be simply crowdsourced. Only display
the popup when the order value exceeds the threshold for the buyer's country.
3. Show the customs warning message in English AND the national language of the
buyer's country in the message box.
4. Add a database element to the orders table to record the timestamp that the
buyer acknowledged the customs warning. Display the Edit Order UI page for seller's
reference.
5. When a buyer is adding items to cart that exceed the customs threshold, display
a warning icon in the shopping cart indicator. Mouseover text on the warning
icon should show "This order may be subject to import duties for {buyer's
country}"
I am NOT suggesting that BL get in the business of managing customs and import
duties. This is simply a warning message to the buyer to educate them. The
goal of this suggestion is buyer satisfaction and reducing frustration/surprise
for buyers that aren't aware of their own country's rules.
-Jason
|
While I've personally had the luck of not running into the whole VATS issue
myself, this is a fantastic idea. Big yes from me.
-David
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Agreed. And it's presented quite well, also.
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| Author: | DadsAFOL | | Posted: | Mar 19, 2017 11:50 | | Subject: | Re: Suggest: Change Log + Part Out Log Task List | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, DadsAFOL writes:
| | This has probably been suggested in the past, but it might have fallen off the
6 month archive. This just hit me tonight: I sold a part that was added to
my inventory in a part out, but the set inventory was corrected after the date
I parted it out.
Can we please have a new task item in My Actions that lists parts in your inventory
that belong to a set inventory that match a pre-correction value? This would
be a worklist with options to accept the change and update inventory (subtract
incorrect part, add correct part) or ignore.
For example, set 7799-1 has a change on 9/9/10 where part 44728 was changed from
black to dark bluish gray. Let's say in my Part Out Log, I have set 7799-1 dated
9/1/10, and in my inventory I currently have 1 or more part 44728 in black.
This would appear in the worklist for my review. Now if I already knew there
was an error and manually corrected it and I had legitimate black parts from
another source, I would flag this task as "ignore". On the other hand, if I
hadn't noticed the correction and I truly don't have any of those parts in black,
I'd be able to confirm the quantity and click a button to subtract the black
part(s) and add the dark bluish gray part(s) to my inventory (with the typical
upload/conolidate options).
That would really help keep store inventories clean! I've done a couple of set
inventories myself and they are definitely a labor of love. I appreciate the
hard work that goes into keeping set inventories accurate and would love to be
able to leverage all of that hard work!
-Jason
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On a whim, I was looking at old suggestions. This was my first suggestion on
BL. It's still needed.
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| Author: | Dr_Blockenstein | | Posted: | Mar 19, 2017 11:48 | | Subject: | Re: Suggest: Customs Acknowledgment in Checkout | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, DadsAFOL writes:
| | There was another thread today about customs/VAT on import, and I thought
I had suggested this in the past but I couldn't find it in searching the
suggestion history, so I'm submitting it now.
Quick & Easy:
1. Create a simple pop-up in the checkout process for international orders that
warns the buyer that they are fully responsible for any customs/duties/VAT/collection
fees etc that their country may charge for importing goods. Buyer must check
the "I acknowledge" button before being allowed to complete checkout.
Further Enhancements:
2. Store a table with the known thresholds for each country (e.g. £15 for UK,
€22 for Netherlands, etc). This data can be simply crowdsourced. Only display
the popup when the order value exceeds the threshold for the buyer's country.
3. Show the customs warning message in English AND the national language of the
buyer's country in the message box.
4. Add a database element to the orders table to record the timestamp that the
buyer acknowledged the customs warning. Display the Edit Order UI page for seller's
reference.
5. When a buyer is adding items to cart that exceed the customs threshold, display
a warning icon in the shopping cart indicator. Mouseover text on the warning
icon should show "This order may be subject to import duties for {buyer's
country}"
I am NOT suggesting that BL get in the business of managing customs and import
duties. This is simply a warning message to the buyer to educate them. The
goal of this suggestion is buyer satisfaction and reducing frustration/surprise
for buyers that aren't aware of their own country's rules.
-Jason
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While I've personally had the luck of not running into the whole VATS issue
myself, this is a fantastic idea. Big yes from me.
-David
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| Author: | DadsAFOL | | Posted: | Mar 19, 2017 11:30 | | Subject: | Suggest: Customs Acknowledgment in Checkout | | Viewed: | 204 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| There was another thread today about customs/VAT on import, and I thought
I had suggested this in the past but I couldn't find it in searching the
suggestion history, so I'm submitting it now.
Quick & Easy:
1. Create a simple pop-up in the checkout process for international orders that
warns the buyer that they are fully responsible for any customs/duties/VAT/collection
fees etc that their country may charge for importing goods. Buyer must check
the "I acknowledge" button before being allowed to complete checkout.
Further Enhancements:
2. Store a table with the known thresholds for each country (e.g. £15 for UK,
€22 for Netherlands, etc). This data can be simply crowdsourced. Only display
the popup when the order value exceeds the threshold for the buyer's country.
3. Show the customs warning message in English AND the national language of the
buyer's country in the message box.
4. Add a database element to the orders table to record the timestamp that the
buyer acknowledged the customs warning. Display the Edit Order UI page for seller's
reference.
5. When a buyer is adding items to cart that exceed the customs threshold, display
a warning icon in the shopping cart indicator. Mouseover text on the warning
icon should show "This order may be subject to import duties for {buyer's
country}"
I am NOT suggesting that BL get in the business of managing customs and import
duties. This is simply a warning message to the buyer to educate them. The
goal of this suggestion is buyer satisfaction and reducing frustration/surprise
for buyers that aren't aware of their own country's rules.
-Jason
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| Author: | jenwick | | Posted: | Mar 18, 2017 12:28 | | Subject: | Re: Used lego | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Cosy writes:
| | In Suggestions, vxb writes:
| | sorry I am going to disagree most of the searches turn up closed stores and stores with little inventory, so I will have to manually have to search through hundreds of stores to find one that specifically deals in used parts as I don't mess around with small orders.
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Ok.
Not knowing exactly what you want except larger quantities of used brick, you
may well find it hard to narrow things down.
A large wanted list will always make finding everything much harder, but consider
these two examples.
1. I just searched for simple BLEY 1x2 brick (let's ignore that you might
prefer old light grey). If I want a minimum 0f 100 Used 1x2s I get 16 stores.
If I want 1000+ there are only 2 stores. This is all USA, but bear with me.
The cheaper of these is Brick-N-Brac. Looking at their inventory they are mostly
a Used shop. Out of 9000+ Lots the vast majority are used (only 67 New Lots).
Well I don't know this store and can't vouch for them, but they look
like a good Used candidate.
2. Use your Wanted List to find bricks. Again maybe not your example, but pretend
I want Used 1x2 BLEY Masonry Bricks this time. I have that on my Wanted List
as Used with a minimum of 50. There is only 1 store, Ace of Bricks, that has
50 or more of these as Used Lots.
If you extrapolate either case I don't see how you would not find what you
are looking for and especially once looking a bit also find some store in particular
that specialize in large quantities of Used parts.
Most stores I expect dealing with Used parts will not have large individual part
quantities. You are more likely to find variety in Used parts but less depth.
My 2 cents.
Good Luck with your searches.
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Thanks for mentioning my store! Yes, I sell almost exclusively used parts.
I have sent to OP a message in hopes I can help in his quest.
Jennifer
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| Author: | montana_girl | | Posted: | Mar 18, 2017 10:10 | | Subject: | Re: Used lego | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Cosy writes:
| | In Suggestions, vxb writes:
| | sorry I am going to disagree most of the searches turn up closed stores and stores with little inventory, so I will have to manually have to search through hundreds of stores to find one that specifically deals in used parts as I don't mess around with small orders.
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Ok.
Not knowing exactly what you want except larger quantities of used brick, you
may well find it hard to narrow things down.
A large wanted list will always make finding everything much harder, but consider
these two examples.
1. I just searched for simple BLEY 1x2 brick (let's ignore that you might
prefer old light grey). If I want a minimum 0f 100 Used 1x2s I get 16 stores.
If I want 1000+ there are only 2 stores. This is all USA, but bear with me.
The cheaper of these is Brick-N-Brac. Looking at their inventory they are mostly
a Used shop. Out of 9000+ Lots the vast majority are used (only 67 New Lots).
Well I don't know this store and can't vouch for them, but they look
like a good Used candidate.
2. Use your Wanted List to find bricks. Again maybe not your example, but pretend
I want Used 1x2 BLEY Masonry Bricks this time. I have that on my Wanted List
as Used with a minimum of 50. There is only 1 store, Ace of Bricks, that has
50 or more of these as Used Lots.
If you extrapolate either case I don't see how you would not find what you
are looking for and especially once looking a bit also find some store in particular
that specialize in large quantities of Used parts.
Most stores I expect dealing with Used parts will not have large individual part
quantities. You are more likely to find variety in Used parts but less depth.
My 2 cents.
Good Luck with your searches.
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I second this! (Also, side note... I've bought from Bric-N-Brac several times
- good store!)
I sell primarily used parts (hence the name), but only have limited amounts of
each part. Why? Because used bricks we buy are often scratched, chewed, marred
and faded by sunlight. So a majority of the bricks end up in a bin to be played
with by my grandsons. It's hard to find a bulk of unmarred used bricks and
other parts. We try to sell only the best, so that limits are supply.
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| Author: | bb863711 | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2017 22:53 | | Subject: | Re: Used lego | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Cosy writes:
| | In Suggestions, vxb writes:
| | sorry I am going to disagree most of the searches turn up closed stores and stores with little inventory, so I will have to manually have to search through hundreds of stores to find one that specifically deals in used parts as I don't mess around with small orders.
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Ok.
Not knowing exactly what you want except larger quantities of used brick, you
may well find it hard to narrow things down.
A large wanted list will always make finding everything much harder, but consider
these two examples.
1. I just searched for simple BLEY 1x2 brick (let's ignore that you might
prefer old light grey). If I want a minimum 0f 100 Used 1x2s I get 16 stores.
If I want 1000+ there are only 2 stores. This is all USA, but bear with me.
The cheaper of these is Brick-N-Brac. Looking at their inventory they are mostly
a Used shop. Out of 9000+ Lots the vast majority are used (only 67 New Lots).
Well I don't know this store and can't vouch for them, but they look
like a good Used candidate.
2. Use your Wanted List to find bricks. Again maybe not your example, but pretend
I want Used 1x2 BLEY Masonry Bricks this time. I have that on my Wanted List
as Used with a minimum of 50. There is only 1 store, Ace of Bricks, that has
50 or more of these as Used Lots.
If you extrapolate either case I don't see how you would not find what you
are looking for and especially once looking a bit also find some store in particular
that specialize in large quantities of Used parts.
Most stores I expect dealing with Used parts will not have large individual part
quantities. You are more likely to find variety in Used parts but less depth.
My 2 cents.
Good Luck with your searches. thankyou for your knowledge, not looking for specific parts, just used beat up parts as I use them in my machine shop for prototyping and am very hard on them, drill holes in, kragle them ect.
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| Author: | bb863711 | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2017 22:22 | | Subject: | Re: Used lego | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Cosy writes:
| | In Suggestions, vxb writes:
| | So many stores... could they be organized into new sellers, used, and, set sellers?
As there are some that specialize in these areas. I find it time consuming to
find reputable used brick sellers. I like to find parts from simpler times 1980's
before the franchises took over
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Not necessarily disagreeing with you but I think the distinction you wish to
draw is easily filtered.
Take for instance Used parts. If you have one or many wanted lists which just
have used parts your wanted list searches will limit to store with items as used
only.
If you are looking for sets this will be self explanatory as well.
Reputable will have to be evaluated more by you, but I think you'll have
more good experiences than bad. Don't forget to favorite stores you like
and set them to appear first in wanted list searches.
sorry I am going to disagree most of the searches turn up closed stores and stores with little inventory, so I will have to manually have to search through hundreds of stores to find one that specifically deals in used parts as I don't mess around with small orders.
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| Author: | bb863711 | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2017 22:04 | | Subject: | Re: Used lego | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Cob writes:
| | In Suggestions, vxb writes:
| | So many stores... could they be organized into new sellers, used, and, set sellers?
As there are some that specialize in these areas. I find it time consuming to
find reputable used brick sellers. I like to find parts from simpler times 1980's
before the franchises took over
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You might try one of these stores:
https://www.bricklink.com/memberList.asp?storeName=space&searchLike=L&v=1&viewUserType=*
Searched "space" and looked for the oldest stores. Most of these stores are closed or have few parts to offer however your store looks good thankyou
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| Author: | Cob | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2017 21:43 | | Subject: | Re: Used lego | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, vxb writes:
| | So many stores... could they be organized into new sellers, used, and, set sellers?
As there are some that specialize in these areas. I find it time consuming to
find reputable used brick sellers. I like to find parts from simpler times 1980's
before the franchises took over
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You might try one of these stores:
https://www.bricklink.com/memberList.asp?storeName=space&searchLike=L&v=1&viewUserType=*
Searched "space" and looked for the oldest stores.
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| Author: | bb844618 | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2017 21:42 | | Subject: | Re: Used lego | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, vxb writes:
| | So many stores... could they be organized into new sellers, used, and, set sellers?
As there are some that specialize in these areas. I find it time consuming to
find reputable used brick sellers. I like to find parts from simpler times 1980's
before the franchises took over
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If you click on search you can specify between New and Used. I think that would
fix your problem of finding used sellers?
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| Author: | bb863711 | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2017 21:21 | | Subject: | Used lego | | Viewed: | 287 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Already Exists | |
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| So many stores... could they be organized into new sellers, used, and, set sellers?
As there are some that specialize in these areas. I find it time consuming to
find reputable used brick sellers. I like to find parts from simpler times 1980's
before the franchises took over
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| Author: | taxan | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2017 16:08 | | Subject: | Re: Bring back Chat...please!! | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, tweegster writes:
| | In Suggestions, SKotK writes:
| | Just another vote to bring the Chat function back to this site. I really miss
being able to converse with my fellow BrickLinkians in real-time...
/quit BRING BACK CHAT (seriously)!
--SKot
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just thorwing this out here for those of us that remember IRC and want to maybe
be more social then forums can be at times. There is a channel on Espernet for
bricklink not many people their but it could be fun
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If you have mIRC the direct link to the channel is:
irc://irc.esper.net/#bricklink
Everyone are welcome to join it. ;D
Have a nice day.
taxan
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| Author: | Sokratesz | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2017 07:13 | | Subject: | Display major parts separately in set pt list | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| I would like to have the option to have 'major parts' shown at the top
of a part list, as a button next to "| Break Sets | Break Minifigs | New Items
"
Major parts could be loosely defined as things like motors, pneumatics, linear
actuators, or perhaps even user-defined, depending on what you're looking
for. Especially in larger sets it is annoying to have to scroll through the entire
list to find them!
Tim
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| Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2017 04:01 | | Subject: | Re: price overview when buying a wanted list | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
| | […]
This 'forum base' you mention, who are they and who is their leader? […]
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Yes, please someone. Take him to their leader.
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Not sure about leader but I'm missing the community overseer role at the
moment.
Robert
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| Author: | tweegster | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2017 00:05 | | Subject: | Re: Bring back Chat...please!! | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, SKotK writes:
| | Just another vote to bring the Chat function back to this site. I really miss
being able to converse with my fellow BrickLinkians in real-time...
/quit BRING BACK CHAT (seriously)!
--SKot
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just thorwing this out here for those of us that remember IRC and want to maybe
be more social then forums can be at times. There is a channel on Espernet for
bricklink not many people their but it could be fun
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| Author: | MrDrem | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 20:58 | | Subject: | Re: price overview when buying a wanted list | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Cosy writes:
| | In Suggestions, MrDrem writes:
| | Whilst the tool
was there, it made it so much easier for me to sanity check prices on my orders
that I didn't look elsewhere. Its what kept me shopping within Bricklink.
You want me to keep shopping here, make it easy for me to confirm my deal is
OK.
Even if all you tell me is that my overall order price is below or above the
average price.
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Sorry to edit down your post...
If your goal is just to sanity check prices, BL's built-in Price Guide will
give you a part for part comparison. You can also see the current world stock
as well as the L6MA.
Granted it is less convenient than a built in calculation, but with two windows
side by side you can easily do a sanity check.
If your order is 100 lots obviously this takes some more leg work on your part.
The more complicated option as mentioned would be to use BrickStock side by side
with your cart.
- Download your Wanted List
- import the XML file into BrickStock
- adjust the part quantities (a trick to do is open the xml in a text editor
and replace the "minqty" with "qty")
- set all the prices to L6MA
This will give you both the average sold price per part and the total price of
your cart if you bought at the average for each part. A little more work, but
like many shopping choices you can work harder to save more or work less and
just get what you want now.
Maybe that helps you work with BL.
Feel free to hit me up with questions if you get stuck.
Happy Shopping!
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Got it working (and wrote and shared a quick guide on how I did it for other
people, since some of the steps seemed a little non-obvious)
Thanks for your help there.
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| Author: | Heartbricker | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 20:43 | | Subject: | Re: price overview when buying a wanted list | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
| | In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| |
The forum cannot answer that for you. Only the Administration can answer that
if they choose to and I think they might have seen your request(s) by now. Continuing
to post the same point over and over and over again will only frustrate the user
base and ultimately probably yourself too. I would personally figure I've
made myself heard and wait for the outcome. Just my advice from learning how
this place operates over many years.
Robert
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I'm already frustrated. I'm frustrated that I came down here and found
out all y'all weren't frustrated. That's very frustrating.
But I'll take a step back. No links. I even included a photo of my Winter
Village chocolate vendor stand. You know the Chocolate Factory over on eurobricks?
I'm collecting for that. Do you see? I'm invested here. I'm present.
I am not trolling you. Something's been going on in the past nine months
and I need to know what it is.
This 'forum base' you mention, who are they and who is their leader?
I need to know what kind of conversations have been going on about average price.
Is there a thread I can review or can someone provide me with a brief synopsis?
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I wonder how many sellers have stop-listed you based on you conduct here- i have
a feeling it's more than the number of sellers who sold to you.
Many people have given you reasonable arguments but you seem to cherry pick the
ones you want to answer to.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 19:05 | | Subject: | Re: price overview when buying a wanted list | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
| | […]
This 'forum base' you mention, who are they and who is their leader? […]
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Yes, please someone. Take him to their leader.
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| Author: | TokerSays | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 19:00 | | Subject: | Re: price overview when buying a wanted list | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| |
The forum cannot answer that for you. Only the Administration can answer that
if they choose to and I think they might have seen your request(s) by now. Continuing
to post the same point over and over and over again will only frustrate the user
base and ultimately probably yourself too. I would personally figure I've
made myself heard and wait for the outcome. Just my advice from learning how
this place operates over many years.
Robert
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I'm already frustrated. I'm frustrated that I came down here and found
out all y'all weren't frustrated. That's very frustrating.
But I'll take a step back. No links. I even included a photo of my Winter
Village chocolate vendor stand. You know the Chocolate Factory over on eurobricks?
I'm collecting for that. Do you see? I'm invested here. I'm present.
I am not trolling you. Something's been going on in the past nine months
and I need to know what it is.
This 'forum base' you mention, who are they and who is their leader?
I need to know what kind of conversations have been going on about average price.
Is there a thread I can review or can someone provide me with a brief synopsis?
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 15:09 | | Subject: | Re: price overview when buying a wanted list | | Viewed: | 81 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | Child's toy? I think you mean an adult building tool. |
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| Author: | NavySTi | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 12:20 | | Subject: | Re: DO AWAY WITH PRICE GUIDE....... | | Viewed: | 103 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, randyf writes:
| | In Suggestions, thewolf06 writes:
| | Actually, I was being saracstic [sic] at the way bricklink [sic] has taken away a
feature that every buyer would actually use and a feature that I have used
multiple times. Maybe your [sic] too young to remember sarcasm.
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I have placed over 320 transactions on BrickLink over my almost 8 years here,
and I have never needed or used this feature once it was implemented. I just
don't shop that way. So please keep your hyperbole in the realm of possibility
that *some* people used the feature.
Cheers,
Randy
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I don't have the history that Randy has, but in the 25 or so purchases I've
made, I honestly didn't even notice the +/- thing. I looked for the higher
priced items, compared with the 6mo avg, and occasionally looked at lower priced
items if I was buying a big bulk of them....but didn't even notice the +/-
thing....so can't say I'm sorry to see it go. Not sure I'd use it
even if it came back, either...
Robert
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| Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 12:12 | | Subject: | Re: price overview when buying a wanted list | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
| | Niek - I am not here to annoy you. I'm annoyed. I am a grown man posting
on a forum for a child's toy trying to figure out why a tool I used to save
money has been removed.
Now I apologize for being in your sandbox but it seems to that this conversation
has done gone been had ready. So would you mind pointing me in the direction
of the thread where it was decided that the Buyer would foot the bill for maintaining
the solubility of the Lego marketplace?
And may I ask Niek - have you at any time been in direct contact with the administrators
of Bricklink concerning the average pricing tool? If so, what was your formal
complaint?
|
Thank you for this reply. It looks like this reply is from a 35-ish year old
man. Thanks.
As I stated each time, I have no issues with discussing the topic itself. And
I have no preference whether that tool is put back in, or is left out (although
I am leaning towards leaving it out).
The ONLY thing I had an issue with is the repeated campaigning, which
by the looks of this post you stopped - thank you.
In reply to your questions, I can't point you to a thread where it was decided
that the Buyer would foot the bill, because I don't think there is one. I
also have not been in direct contact with any admins. Aside from my belief they
will not entertain a direct discussion, I have no reason to contact them in this
regards, as again I have no preference.
Again, I understand you are frustrated by their decision to remove it. I get
that, and I respect that (and I have never said otherwise). You have made your
point (over and over if I might add), and I have chimed in somewhere way upstream
as well. I welcome the discussion, and I like to see other opinions and back-and-forths,
but it has to be a proper discussion, not a constant repeat of the same words,
and (for me) definitely no more campaigning like you did before.
Thanks.
Niek.
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| Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 10:59 | | Subject: | Re: price overview when buying a wanted list | | Viewed: | 78 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
| | Niek - I am not here to annoy you. I'm annoyed. I am a grown man posting
on a forum for a child's toy trying to figure out why a tool I used to save
money has been removed.
|
The forum cannot answer that for you. Only the Administration can answer that
if they choose to and I think they might have seen your request(s) by now. Continuing
to post the same point over and over and over again will only frustrate the user
base and ultimately probably yourself too. I would personally figure I've
made myself heard and wait for the outcome. Just my advice from learning how
this place operates over many years.
Robert
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| Author: | TokerSays | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 10:50 | | Subject: | Re: price overview when buying a wanted list | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| Niek - I am not here to annoy you. I'm annoyed. I am a grown man posting
on a forum for a child's toy trying to figure out why a tool I used to save
money has been removed.
Now I apologize for being in your sandbox but it seems to that this conversation
has done gone been had ready. So would you mind pointing me in the direction
of the thread where it was decided that the Buyer would foot the bill for maintaining
the solubility of the Lego marketplace?
And may I ask Niek - have you at any time been in direct contact with the administrators
of Bricklink concerning the average pricing tool? If so, what was your formal
complaint?
In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:
| | It is crystal clear you are only here to annoy. I am done with this childish
behavior.
Niek.
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| Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 10:29 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Yes absolutely, i have a few friends that looked at it, and decided to never
look at it again, cause it looks like a mailing-list discussion from before they
where born.
For me personally it works good, i have no major problem with it now. And to
create a new post is not that hard, i think most will manage it they try.
But what the problem is not you and me or the older generation. It's the
younger generation that today is used with things like facebook, instagram, disqus,
reddit, where everything is simplistic, easy to understand, modern looking and
a minimal learning curve.
|
I think you're getting confused by the "skin" on these applications. Take
disqus for example. It regularly crashes during high usage. I must have seen
that silly little snowman a dozen times just since the beginning of the year.
Second, there is very poor documentation provided for people to understand what
all these cryptic little icons do, with the result that many users don't
know how to favorite a thread, block a user, or even sort the posts. Very few
know the difference between reporting a user to disqus and reporting someone
to the local mods.
Also, when it comes to managing your profile, things like the block list are
in the stone ages. There is no way to sort or mass unblock, so literally every
user has to be unblocked manually. It's such a primitive system, I consider
it a real chore to do anything on that platform.
And they've got bugs. Click on a user profile while writing a post, and bingo,
when you finally post your well-crafted narrative, up comes the cartoon screen
of death. A back page will do nothing. Your post is lost. And the notification
bubble does not work right. And on and on. They also recently started putting
ads in the middle of the reply list.
You are correct when you describe these trendy modern platforms as "simplistic".
They are indeed that, meaning that the UI has been minimalized to give the impression
of simplicity. But in reality, that is just a mask for a very complex structure
underneath that most users do not understand completely.
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| Author: | Brettj666 | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 10:20 | | Subject: | Re: price overview when buying a wanted list | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
| | In Suggestions, dfurman writes:
I’m not done yet. I have yet to hear a convincing reason why I should not, en
masse, be able to tell which one of your Lego bricks is priced at or below average?
I already have access to this information, why can I not have easier access?
Why can’t it be made easier for me to tell which one of these stores carries
the largest selection of average priced pieces?
|
You get a vote, you've cast it.
I have yet to hear a convincing reason why I should vote yes and give the BL
the impression that this information should be on hand in one place when it's
on hand in another
I simply don't care to nickel and dime my time to evaluate an entire seller's
inventory.
If I found out that I shopped at a store that had 15 lots that were below average,
10 at average and 5 that were above average, I am simply not going to lose sleep.
The average is fairly arbitrary and SOMEONE has to be above the line
You see the bricks, you see the price, is it worth exchanging the money for the
bricks?
It's not rocket science.
| | You can vote yes to the suggestion of making shopping easier on BL here: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1031088
Please also review previous posts in this thread for the tale of “If My Store
Closes the Entire Lego Marketplace Will Crumble to its Knees.” It’s a romantic
comedy…
-Toker
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 09:52 | | Subject: | Re: DO AWAY WITH PRICE GUIDE....... | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, thewolf06 writes:
| | Actually, I was being saracstic [sic] at the way bricklink [sic] has taken away a
feature that every buyer would actually use and a feature that I have used
multiple times. Maybe your [sic] too young to remember sarcasm.
|
I have placed over 320 transactions on BrickLink over my almost 8 years here,
and I have never needed or used this feature once it was implemented. I just
don't shop that way. So please keep your hyperbole in the realm of possibility
that *some* people used the feature.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 07:50 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Yes absolutely, i have a few friends that looked at it, and decided to never
look at it again, cause it looks like a mailing-list discussion from before they
where born.
For me personally it works good, i have no major problem with it now. And to
create a new post is not that hard, i think most will manage it they try.
But what the problem is not you and me or the older generation. It's the
younger generation that today is used with things like facebook, instagram, disqus,
reddit, where everything is simplistic, easy to understand, modern looking and
a minimal learning curve.
|
Don't underestimate the talents of young people.
I have a nephew and niece who are too young to join this website and can find
their way around Facebook and the like better than I can (probably partly because
it interests them more than it does me) but they can also very quickly understand
and add value in old technology discussions too. I would say overall it is easier
for the young minds to understand and engage with us than it is for many older
people to adapt to new technology.
Or course there is a balance to be struck somewhere along the line. My parents
could never program a video recorder but the current young generation have both
iPods and vinyl.
Robert
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|
| Author: | ranarn | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 07:39 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| Yes absolutely, i have a few friends that looked at it, and decided to never
look at it again, cause it looks like a mailing-list discussion from before they
where born.
For me personally it works good, i have no major problem with it now. And to
create a new post is not that hard, i think most will manage it they try.
But what the problem is not you and me or the older generation. It's the
younger generation that today is used with things like facebook, instagram, disqus,
reddit, where everything is simplistic, easy to understand, modern looking and
a minimal learning curve.
And if we want them to contribute and be a part in these "forums" it needs to
be more what they are used to.
In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Second is style, it looks outdated and not very modern. I know that the "CORE"
users of the forum at the moment like it, and is happy with what it is, but to
broaden the usage from new users, it needs to be made more modern and easier,
explainable icons instead of text links maybe, Simplicity is the key.
|
Do you think new users have a problem posting and using the forum? As quite a
few completely new users (as in zero feedback, so new to the site) have posted
here recently.
|
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| Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 05:39 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Yea lets not embrace the future and newer technology's, let stay in the past.
Everything was better before, don't change anything that works.
If everyone had that mindset we would still live in the stone-age.
|
I guess the opposite of that is-
Let's change everything for no reason other than that there is something
newer available.
Both are wrong IMO and I didn't say don't change anything... I just like
changes to be for the right reasons not just because of technology. Many people
still ride horses despite the invention of the motorcycle
Robert
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| Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 05:32 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, Smron writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Good Question, and of course i should have stated some examples, instead of just
saying that it's bad.
First, the tree approach, it's not a bad thing, and works pretty good when
a discussion is kept relatively small and you read each post.
But when more and more people join, and you get multiple levels of replies, each
tend to go it's own way when it branches out from the main tree. And a tree
structure makes really hard for someone that is coming into the discussion later
to see the latest "talk" or get a overview what has been replied earlier, you
often need to check each branch of the tree. I am more into the "reddit" approach,
where the hot or popular replies is what is showed at the top. Or the "standard"
flat forum approach with pages and not creating branches of replies.
|
I very much disagree there, at least compared to a flat view. Having a branching
tree is a huge benefit. One improvement would be to be able to collapse a branch
(as on reddit). But if this is your major concern, I think you are way off. The
branching structure is a huge benefit of the current format. It is not a fault
at all.
| | Second is style, it looks outdated and not very modern. I know that the "CORE"
users of the forum at the moment like it, and is happy with what it is, but to
broaden the usage from new users, it needs to be made more modern and easier,
explainable icons instead of text links maybe, Simplicity is the key.
|
To me, that's largely irrelevant. I care much more about content than style.
For the site itself, the style is important, because it's a commercial website
that is looking to make money for its sellers (myself among them). But for the
forum? Who cares. The appearance is neither a positive nor a negative. It's
irrelevant.
| | Some technical features that would be nice is, notification, unread message tracking,
templates, tags, ability mention or reference other people, online status of
users, avatars etc...
|
Notifications and message tracking, absolutely. Those should be added. Tags already
exist for catalog items. Referencing other users: meh. Online status of users:
meh. Avatars? Please no. There are way too many juvenile forums where 50% of
the "content" is animated gift and signature files. That contributes nothing
to actual discussions, and we are better off without them.
So ... Yes, we could use the ability to track read/unread status, and receive
notifications.
That's about it.
--
Marc.
|
More or less agree. I'm not sure we need a 'new forum', but our current
forum could use some upgrades.
Top things I would like to see...
1) Ability to collapse threads.
2) Ability to edit posts
|
For me please no on that one, there is nothing worse than reading a thread that
no longer makes any sense as all the replies refer to something that has been
changed by a member who saw the replies so decided to change his message. If
you make a mistake or want to change your opinion after the event I think it
is fine to state that via another post later in the thread after all surely that
is what debate is for.
Robert
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 05:10 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| | | Second is style, it looks outdated and not very modern. I know that the "CORE"
users of the forum at the moment like it, and is happy with what it is, but to
broaden the usage from new users, it needs to be made more modern and easier,
explainable icons instead of text links maybe, Simplicity is the key.
|
Do you think new users have a problem posting and using the forum? As quite a
few completely new users (as in zero feedback, so new to the site) have posted
here recently.
|
|
| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 03:28 | | Subject: | Re: DO AWAY WITH PRICE GUIDE....... | | Viewed: | 85 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, thewolf06 writes:
| | | |
While implementing this foolishness, let's have BL eleminate a store's
ability to charge a "minimum buy" . That way a buyer is no longer FORCED to purchase
extra parts they don't need so a buyer can make profits. Then prohibit lot
limits for the stores which choose to make easy profits that way. Then BL can
further determine the "value" of our LEGO for us! All LEGO parts are sold at
$xxxx no more plummeting prices!
In the end all the sales are public information and some one will get it and
just charge us to get the information,lol! Dang free will and free market. Maybe
you are to young to remember paperback price guides published yearly and monthly
for everything from action figures, baseball cards, cars, stamps, etc. LEGO is
no different.
Bdaddy360
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Actually, I was being saracstic at the way bricklink has taken away a feature
that every buyer would actually use and a feature that I have used multiple times.
Maybe your too young to remember sarcasm.
|
1000 + orders placed - never used the feature you are talking about and I am
more than confident there are many others. You cannot say every buyer would use
cause that just isn't factual. Some buyers may use would be more accurate.
Doing away with the price guide is not a good idea and voted no - what would
be the point of that anyway?
|
|
| Author: | thewolf06 | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 23:28 | | Subject: | Re: DO AWAY WITH PRICE GUIDE....... | | Viewed: | 107 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| | |
While implementing this foolishness, let's have BL eleminate a store's
ability to charge a "minimum buy" . That way a buyer is no longer FORCED to purchase
extra parts they don't need so a buyer can make profits. Then prohibit lot
limits for the stores which choose to make easy profits that way. Then BL can
further determine the "value" of our LEGO for us! All LEGO parts are sold at
$xxxx no more plummeting prices!
In the end all the sales are public information and some one will get it and
just charge us to get the information,lol! Dang free will and free market. Maybe
you are to young to remember paperback price guides published yearly and monthly
for everything from action figures, baseball cards, cars, stamps, etc. LEGO is
no different.
Bdaddy360
|
Actually, I was being saracstic at the way bricklink has taken away a feature
that every buyer would actually use and a feature that I have used multiple times.
Maybe your too young to remember sarcasm.
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|
| Author: | chetzler | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 23:11 | | Subject: | Re: price overview when buying a wanted list | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
| | In Suggestions, Miro78 writes:
| |
I was going to try to explain again why this feature is not a healthy and sustainable
feature, but I think some people just need to experience it firsthand. So my
suggestion to you is to try to run a profitable Bricklink store for a year or
two and get back to us on how you are doing.
Have a Good Day!
Miro
|
Miro - I understand your tone, I really do. And I say this with all due respect;
try building a Winter Village for 8 years and come back and tell us how it goes.
|
Have you seen any of the MOCs Miro has posted here? I'm pretty sure he knows
about building a winter village.
| | It takes a lot of time, it's a lot of hard work, and it's *very* expensive.
My profits come in the form of bricks, and I need to maximize my profits. I
had a tool to help me do that, and I used it, may I have it back now please?
Vote yes on the suggestion of giving the Buyer back the average pricing tool.
Use this link, vote yes in the upper left corner under author information: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1031088
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|
| Author: | Smron | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 22:41 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Good Question, and of course i should have stated some examples, instead of just
saying that it's bad.
First, the tree approach, it's not a bad thing, and works pretty good when
a discussion is kept relatively small and you read each post.
But when more and more people join, and you get multiple levels of replies, each
tend to go it's own way when it branches out from the main tree. And a tree
structure makes really hard for someone that is coming into the discussion later
to see the latest "talk" or get a overview what has been replied earlier, you
often need to check each branch of the tree. I am more into the "reddit" approach,
where the hot or popular replies is what is showed at the top. Or the "standard"
flat forum approach with pages and not creating branches of replies.
|
I very much disagree there, at least compared to a flat view. Having a branching
tree is a huge benefit. One improvement would be to be able to collapse a branch
(as on reddit). But if this is your major concern, I think you are way off. The
branching structure is a huge benefit of the current format. It is not a fault
at all.
| | Second is style, it looks outdated and not very modern. I know that the "CORE"
users of the forum at the moment like it, and is happy with what it is, but to
broaden the usage from new users, it needs to be made more modern and easier,
explainable icons instead of text links maybe, Simplicity is the key.
|
To me, that's largely irrelevant. I care much more about content than style.
For the site itself, the style is important, because it's a commercial website
that is looking to make money for its sellers (myself among them). But for the
forum? Who cares. The appearance is neither a positive nor a negative. It's
irrelevant.
| | Some technical features that would be nice is, notification, unread message tracking,
templates, tags, ability mention or reference other people, online status of
users, avatars etc...
|
Notifications and message tracking, absolutely. Those should be added. Tags already
exist for catalog items. Referencing other users: meh. Online status of users:
meh. Avatars? Please no. There are way too many juvenile forums where 50% of
the "content" is animated gift and signature files. That contributes nothing
to actual discussions, and we are better off without them.
So ... Yes, we could use the ability to track read/unread status, and receive
notifications.
That's about it.
--
Marc.
|
More or less agree. I'm not sure we need a 'new forum', but our current
forum could use some upgrades.
Top things I would like to see...
1) Ability to collapse threads.
2) Ability to edit posts
3) Deleting cancelled posts
4) Notifications/mentions/user tags
5) Ability to find a post 'helpful' or not. (This one isn't really
important, I just wanted to get my list to 5 things...)
|
|
| Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 22:39 | | Subject: | Re: price overview when buying a wanted list | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
| | In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:
| |
I don't think anyone has issues with this being discussed. But I for one
would really REALLY like if you stopped campaigning so much by adding the URL
each time.
Again, I don't ask this because I am necessarily against the suggestion,
I just find this is getting incredibly annoying. Everyone on the forum knows
by now where to vote. Please stop. Please.
Niek.
|
Hi Niek. As I'm sure 'everyone on the forum' has figured out by
now that I'm new here. And in my brief time here I have come to find that
I am one of at least 5 new people that have stumbled upon this forum in search
of the reason why the average pricing tool was removed. And as another member
suggested, this forum could use a little updating as it's not always easy
to follow conversations. So I want to make it real easy for those who are new
to find where they need to go to suggest that tool be brought back.
They can go here: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1031088
|
Keep human nature in mind. I have mentioned that I am on the fence about this
issue. But your annoying campaigning convinced me to vote No.
--
Marc.
(Also keep in mind that the votes mean nothing.)
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|
| Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 22:32 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Good Question, and of course i should have stated some examples, instead of just
saying that it's bad.
First, the tree approach, it's not a bad thing, and works pretty good when
a discussion is kept relatively small and you read each post.
But when more and more people join, and you get multiple levels of replies, each
tend to go it's own way when it branches out from the main tree. And a tree
structure makes really hard for someone that is coming into the discussion later
to see the latest "talk" or get a overview what has been replied earlier, you
often need to check each branch of the tree. I am more into the "reddit" approach,
where the hot or popular replies is what is showed at the top. Or the "standard"
flat forum approach with pages and not creating branches of replies.
|
I very much disagree there, at least compared to a flat view. Having a branching
tree is a huge benefit. One improvement would be to be able to collapse a branch
(as on reddit). But if this is your major concern, I think you are way off. The
branching structure is a huge benefit of the current format. It is not a fault
at all.
| | Second is style, it looks outdated and not very modern. I know that the "CORE"
users of the forum at the moment like it, and is happy with what it is, but to
broaden the usage from new users, it needs to be made more modern and easier,
explainable icons instead of text links maybe, Simplicity is the key.
|
To me, that's largely irrelevant. I care much more about content than style.
For the site itself, the style is important, because it's a commercial website
that is looking to make money for its sellers (myself among them). But for the
forum? Who cares. The appearance is neither a positive nor a negative. It's
irrelevant.
| | Some technical features that would be nice is, notification, unread message tracking,
templates, tags, ability mention or reference other people, online status of
users, avatars etc...
|
Notifications and message tracking, absolutely. Those should be added. Tags already
exist for catalog items. Referencing other users: meh. Online status of users:
meh. Avatars? Please no. There are way too many juvenile forums where 50% of
the "content" is animated gift and signature files. That contributes nothing
to actual discussions, and we are better off without them.
So ... Yes, we could use the ability to track read/unread status, and receive
notifications.
That's about it.
--
Marc.
|
|
| Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 21:10 | | Subject: | Re: price overview when buying a wanted list | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| It is crystal clear you are only here to annoy. I am done with this childish
behavior.
Niek.
|
|
| Author: | TokerSays | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 20:59 | | Subject: | Re: price overview when buying a wanted list | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:
| |
I don't think anyone has issues with this being discussed. But I for one
would really REALLY like if you stopped campaigning so much by adding the URL
each time.
Again, I don't ask this because I am necessarily against the suggestion,
I just find this is getting incredibly annoying. Everyone on the forum knows
by now where to vote. Please stop. Please.
Niek.
|
Hi Niek. As I'm sure 'everyone on the forum' has figured out by
now that I'm new here. And in my brief time here I have come to find that
I am one of at least 5 new people that have stumbled upon this forum in search
of the reason why the average pricing tool was removed. And as another member
suggested, this forum could use a little updating as it's not always easy
to follow conversations. So I want to make it real easy for those who are new
to find where they need to go to suggest that tool be brought back.
They can go here: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1031088
|
|
| Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 20:41 | | Subject: | Re: price overview when buying a wanted list | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
| | In Suggestions, dfurman writes:
I’m not done yet. I have yet to hear a convincing reason why I should not, en
masse, be able to tell which one of your Lego bricks is priced at or below average?
I already have access to this information, why can I not have easier access?
Why can’t it be made easier for me to tell which one of these stores carries
the largest selection of average priced pieces?
|
I don't think anyone has issues with this being discussed. But I for one
would really REALLY like if you stopped campaigning so much by adding the URL
each time.
Again, I don't ask this because I am necessarily against the suggestion,
I just find this is getting incredibly annoying. Everyone on the forum knows
by now where to vote. Please stop. Please.
Niek.
|
|
| Author: | TokerSays | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 20:34 | | Subject: | Re: price overview when buying a wanted list | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, dfurman writes:
I’m not done yet. I have yet to hear a convincing reason why I should not, en
masse, be able to tell which one of your Lego bricks is priced at or below average?
I already have access to this information, why can I not have easier access?
Why can’t it be made easier for me to tell which one of these stores carries
the largest selection of average priced pieces?
You can vote yes to the suggestion of making shopping easier on BL here: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1031088
Please also review previous posts in this thread for the tale of “If My Store
Closes the Entire Lego Marketplace Will Crumble to its Knees.” It’s a romantic
comedy…
-Toker
|
|
| Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 17:42 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Suggestions, viejos writes:
| | […]
and I recognize
at least half of all the people who post in the forum. […]
|
Hmm, that would be what? 3 people?
 
(Like the forum as it is now: a web-ized mailing list.)
|
Ah, yes please. I vote to turn it into a mailing list, great suggestion. Glad
to see there are more fans here.
Niek.
|
|
| Author: | ranarn | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 16:57 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| Good Question, and of course i should have stated some examples, instead of just
saying that it's bad.
First, the tree approach, it's not a bad thing, and works pretty good when
a discussion is kept relatively small and you read each post.
But when more and more people join, and you get multiple levels of replies, each
tend to go it's own way when it branches out from the main tree. And a tree
structure makes really hard for someone that is coming into the discussion later
to see the latest "talk" or get a overview what has been replied earlier, you
often need to check each branch of the tree. I am more into the "reddit" approach,
where the hot or popular replies is what is showed at the top. Or the "standard"
flat forum approach with pages and not creating branches of replies.
Second is style, it looks outdated and not very modern. I know that the "CORE"
users of the forum at the moment like it, and is happy with what it is, but to
broaden the usage from new users, it needs to be made more modern and easier,
explainable icons instead of text links maybe, Simplicity is the key.
Some technical features that would be nice is, notification, unread message tracking,
templates, tags, ability mention or reference other people, online status of
users, avatars etc...
For an example of a modern forum i suggest looking at: https://www.discourse.org
In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | What would you actually change?
You say you want modern, but what exactly would you propose?
I find I can follow a thread quite easily, for example.
Rather than just saying you want change, say what you would change.
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| Author: | bdaddy360 | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 15:37 | | Subject: | Re: DO AWAY WITH PRICE GUIDE....... | | Viewed: | 104 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, thewolf06 writes:
| | This site is going in the right direction with taking away important features
like being able to compare price. I think we need to go one step further and
COMPLETELY DELETE the PRICE GUIDE. Lets take it all away, and then there is no
comparison at all.
|
While implementing this foolishness, let's have BL eleminate a store's
ability to charge a "minimum buy" . That way a buyer is no longer FORCED to purchase
extra parts they don't need so a buyer can make profits. Then prohibit lot
limits for the stores which choose to make easy profits that way. Then BL can
further determine the "value" of our LEGO for us! All LEGO parts are sold at
$xxxx no more plummeting prices!
In the end all the sales are public information and some one will get it and
just charge us to get the information,lol! Dang free will and free market. Maybe
you are to young to remember paperback price guides published yearly and monthly
for everything from action figures, baseball cards, cars, stamps, etc. LEGO is
no different.
Bdaddy360
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 15:14 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| What would you actually change?
You say you want modern, but what exactly would you propose?
I find I can follow a thread quite easily, for example.
Rather than just saying you want change, say what you would change.
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| Author: | ranarn | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 14:28 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Yea lets not embrace the future and newer technology's, let stay in the past.
Everything was better before, don't change anything that works.
If everyone had that mindset we would still live in the stone-age.
In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Suggestions, viejos writes:
| | In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Just when you say: Once you learn to use it, your argument fails.
Have you used any other modern communication platform? There shouldn't be
any learning curve, if just a few people are having problem with it, then something
is wrong.
And its not perfect, nothing ever is. There is always room for improvement.
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What I meant by perfect, was that the type of forum that we have now is a perfect
fit for this site. The kind of discussions we often have on BrickLink lend themselves
to the tree structure. I also think it's important to have people's ID
cards displayed prominently along with all the other information about the post
itself.
And yes, I do use other forums quite heavily. I have over 10,000 upvotes on my
Disqus profile and every few weeks I have to clear my block list (max 1000 users)
because I block and flag constantly. I could barely name a handful of profiles
I have gotten to "know" over the years.
Contrast that to BrickLink where I've never blocked anybody, and I recognize
at least half of all the people who post in the forum. The BrickLink forum has
a personal feel to it, and we risk losing that if we import something generic.
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+1 you said it perfectly for me too
Robert
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| Author: | dearlydeparted | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 13:40 | | Subject: | Re: price overview when buying a wanted list | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:
| | If you allow me to take one sentence out of your reply:
| | I had a $50 cart and what I thought was a great deal.
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This is _exactly_ why others would argue to have that feature removed. And if
you allow me to quote another tidbit from a different thread you posted:
| | Because I can't imagine the site administrators would knowingly remove the feature and allow the happy wonderful Lego fans through out the world who have gathered together here in the safe and welcoming site that is Bricklink to be knowingly ripped off. Some dude last week tried to charge me $2.00 for a 35 cent piece. It was an odd piece, I needed it. But I didn't '500% make up' need it. I can't keep track of the average price of 1000s of pieces
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You have to understand that nobody is trying to rip you off by pricing items
in a certain way. That price is there to see and agree with or not.
I fully understand that automatically comparing prices to the last 6 month average
makes it easier to pick the best deal, but by doing this. BrickLink is actively
helping to push prices down. Shops that have priced items reasonably will see
that over time they will lose out on orders because others will undercut the
prices, and buyers will more and more favor the lower-priced options, thus further
put pressure on the L6MA. Stores that don't constantly adjust their prices
will eventually maybe show 500% above average. That does NOT mean they are ripping
buyers off.
The price comparison feature was introduced some time in the last year. Before
that, people were able to buy their LEGO just fine, but there can't be much
doubt that this feature was helping the downward spiral of item prices. This
is not in the interest of BrickLink, and not in the interest of the sellers.
And if you think about it, in the long run it is also not in the interest of
buyers. Many larger shops are feeling the pressure, and have to think about whether
this is still a market that is worthwhile to pursue. Sure, if they close shop,
others will fill the void, but it will be more and more of the lowest-prices-quick-sale-goodbye
shops. And that is not good for anyone.
Just my $0.02.
Niek.
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+1 Right on the mark.
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| Author: | Pher | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 13:19 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | | | | | We could start a poll in the forum to find out
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haha, 100% of people that voted knew there was a forum.
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I doubt it would be 100%. I reckon some forum users would vote no.
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Forum? Which forum? 
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 13:11 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, viejos writes:
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and I recognize
at least half of all the people who post in the forum. […]
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Hmm, that would be what? 3 people?
(Like the forum as it is now: a web-ized mailing list.)
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| Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 12:57 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, viejos writes:
| | In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Just when you say: Once you learn to use it, your argument fails.
Have you used any other modern communication platform? There shouldn't be
any learning curve, if just a few people are having problem with it, then something
is wrong.
And its not perfect, nothing ever is. There is always room for improvement.
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What I meant by perfect, was that the type of forum that we have now is a perfect
fit for this site. The kind of discussions we often have on BrickLink lend themselves
to the tree structure. I also think it's important to have people's ID
cards displayed prominently along with all the other information about the post
itself.
And yes, I do use other forums quite heavily. I have over 10,000 upvotes on my
Disqus profile and every few weeks I have to clear my block list (max 1000 users)
because I block and flag constantly. I could barely name a handful of profiles
I have gotten to "know" over the years.
Contrast that to BrickLink where I've never blocked anybody, and I recognize
at least half of all the people who post in the forum. The BrickLink forum has
a personal feel to it, and we risk losing that if we import something generic.
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+1 you said it perfectly for me too
Robert
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| Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 12:49 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Just when you say: Once you learn to use it, your argument fails.
Have you used any other modern communication platform? There shouldn't be
any learning curve, if just a few people are having problem with it, then something
is wrong.
And its not perfect, nothing ever is. There is always room for improvement.
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What I meant by perfect, was that the type of forum that we have now is a perfect
fit for this site. The kind of discussions we often have on BrickLink lend themselves
to the tree structure. I also think it's important to have people's ID
cards displayed prominently along with all the other information about the post
itself.
And yes, I do use other forums quite heavily. I have over 10,000 upvotes on my
Disqus profile and every few weeks I have to clear my block list (max 1000 users)
because I block and flag constantly. I could barely name a handful of profiles
I have gotten to "know" over the years.
Contrast that to BrickLink where I've never blocked anybody, and I recognize
at least half of all the people who post in the forum. The BrickLink forum has
a personal feel to it, and we risk losing that if we import something generic.
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| Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 12:42 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
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So my suggestion is a modern forum, that works like most other forums, i don't
know what the current is, something from the 90:s ?
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Do you mean the 1990s or 1890s?
John P
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| Author: | Brettj666 | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 12:12 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | | | | | We could start a poll in the forum to find out
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haha, 100% of people that voted knew there was a forum.
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I doubt it would be 100%. I reckon some forum users would vote no.
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Like that baseball writer that got to vote on the hall of fame and voted for
either Cal Ripken or Tony Gwynn..
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 11:56 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | | | We could start a poll in the forum to find out
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haha, 100% of people that voted knew there was a forum.
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I doubt it would be 100%. I reckon some forum users would vote no.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 11:55 | | Subject: | Re: price overview when buying a wanted list | | Viewed: | 83 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | Miro - I understand your tone, I really do. And I say this with all due respect;
try building a Winter Village for 8 years and come back and tell us how it goes.
It takes a lot of time,
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8 years to be precise.
It is as hard as you make it.
| | and it's *very* expensive.
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Again, it is as expensive as you make it. If parts are expensive, where possible
change the parts you use - different colours or parts can often do the same thing
but can be significantly cheaper.
Knowing values / prices of parts you use a lot can help there. Knowing what you
will pay for a part is often better than knowing the average price.
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