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 Author: CanadaFirst View Messages Posted By CanadaFirst
 Posted: Jul 15, 2021 10:17
 Subject: Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines
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CanadaFirst (31883)

Location:  Canada, Quebec
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Mar 27, 2017 Contact Member Seller
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Store: Canada First Bricks
Seeing as the consequence of non-compliance is the revocation of seller privileges
and that our bricklink shop is the sole income for our employees could you please
confirm that as a non-EU based seller (Canada) we do not have to register for
VAT in Europe and that tihngs will go on as they are now IE bricklink-generated
VAT invoices?

If I misread this and need to register to each an every EU country it would be
good to know well in advance since I believe such a process could take a little
while...

Thanks!
 Author: leggodtshop View Messages Posted By leggodtshop
 Posted: Jul 15, 2021 07:30
 Subject: Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines
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leggodtshop (3861)

Location:  Netherlands, Overijssel
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Store: Leggodt.nl
In Administrative, sw_minifigs writes:
  In Administrative, bricks.steine writes:
  As stated by the Dutch member, the same regulation concerning used goods (Differenzbesteuerung)

[snip]

  
Hello,

In Germany it means "Differenzbesteuerung" and is included in our UstG. §25 ...
But what about the dealers who use this regulation? The new OSS EU reform does
not apply to us, but I don't see any option here at bricklink to choose an
option that takes this into account, so here there is either with or without
tax.

I think that affects most of the dealers here, does anyone know more? how to
get around that or what bricklink is going to do here? would be nonsense if there
were no more dealerships for used goods on bricklink in 30 days, right?

Same here. I just do NOT registed my VAT ID at BrickLink. Because margin goods
are not liable for VAT, and you are not allowed to charge VAT on margin goods
sales. So BrickLink is not allowed either.

We have to wait and see how BrickLink is dealing with this regulation. In principle
they do not have to do anything.

Unless your store sales exceeds 10k on BrickLink then they might contact you
or suspend your store. However, margin goods sales do NOT count for the 10k threshold,
so that might be an issue if BrickLink does not consider that.
 Author: sw_minifigs View Messages Posted By sw_minifigs
 Posted: Jul 15, 2021 07:25
 Subject: Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines
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sw_minifigs (9180)

Location:  Germany, Bayern
Member Since Contact Type Status
Mar 14, 2019 Contact Member Seller
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Store: kleinesteinewelt up to 50%
In Administrative, bricks.steine writes:
  As stated by the Dutch member, the same regulation concerning used goods (Differenzbesteuerung)
applies in Germany. All goods sold by using Differenzbesteuerung are not counting
for the 10000 Euro.

Regards

Stefan

In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.


Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines



Dear BrickLink member,

Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.

Changes at a glance:

• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.

• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.

• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en

What this means for you:

• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.

• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.

• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.

This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.

Thank You,

The BrickLink Team


Hello,

In Germany it means "Differenzbesteuerung" and is included in our UstG. §25 ...
But what about the dealers who use this regulation? The new OSS EU reform does
not apply to us, but I don't see any option here at bricklink to choose an
option that takes this into account, so here there is either with or without
tax.

I think that affects most of the dealers here, does anyone know more? how to
get around that or what bricklink is going to do here? would be nonsense if there
were no more dealerships for used goods on bricklink in 30 days, right?
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Jul 15, 2021 01:26
 Subject: Monthly maintenance will be a tad longer...
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Admin_Russell

Location:  USA, California
Member Since Contact Type Status
May 9, 2017 Contact Member Admin
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BrickLink Administrator
Dear BrickLink members,


This is to give notice that our monthly downtime for maintenance next week:

Wednesday, July 21 at 1:00 AM BrickLink Time / Eastern Time

will last for an extra 15 minutes.

Total planned downtime will be from 1:00 AM to 2:15 AM BrickLink Time.


Thank you,

The BrickLink Team
 Author: bricks.steine View Messages Posted By bricks.steine
 Posted: Jul 14, 2021 16:08
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bricks.steine (3366)

Location:  Germany, Bayern
Member Since Contact Type Status
Mar 25, 2017 Contact Member Seller
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Store Closed Store: BRICKS.STEINE
As stated by the Dutch member, the same regulation concerning used goods (Differenzbesteuerung)
applies in Germany. All goods sold by using Differenzbesteuerung are not counting
for the 10000 Euro.

Regards

Stefan

In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.


Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines



Dear BrickLink member,

Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.

Changes at a glance:

• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.

• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.

• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en

What this means for you:

• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.

• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.

• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.

This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.

Thank You,

The BrickLink Team
 Author: ZwarteMagica View Messages Posted By ZwarteMagica
 Posted: Jul 14, 2021 14:38
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ZwarteMagica (10180)

Location:  Netherlands, Noord-Holland
Member Since Contact Type Status
Apr 14, 2010 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: HappyB
Dear BrickLink,

Thank you for your e-mail regarding "implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce
rules for online marketplaces". First, I feel quite threatened by your e-mail
because of the combined deadline (30 days), the sanction (revoking seller privileges)
and incorrect rules mentioned. HappyB has always worked compliant with the Dutch
and EU laws. By my knowledge your rules/information is incorrect. Let me explain.

HappyB applies the Dutch version of 'VAT margin goods' ('margeregeling'
in Dutch) on all it's sold products.

https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/bldcontentnl/belastingdienst/zakelijk/btw/zakendoen_met_het_buitenland/goederen_en_diensten_naar_andere_eu_landen/export_van_specifieke_goederen_en_in_bijzondere_situaties/export_margegoederen_naar_eu_landen

The above link is an official page from the Dutch national Tax agency. It clearly
states that, when applying the 'margeregeling' no VAT should be mentioned
on the invoice and no VAT should be charged to the customer. The seller should
pay VAT over the profit to the Dutch tax agency.

https://www.kvk.nl/advies-en-informatie/internationaal-ondernemen/e-commerce/btw-regels-voor-e-commerce-in-de-eu/

The above link is an official page from the Dutch Chamber of Commerce. It clearly
states that all sales done using the previously mentioned 'margeregeling'
do not count towards the €10.000 threshold mentioned in BrickLink's e-mail.

Again, HappyB applies the Dutch version of 'VAT margin goods' ('margeregeling'
in Dutch) on all it's products.
Please confirm having received this message.
We do not intent to register for VAT on BrickLink.
We do not (yet) intent to activate BrickLink's marketplaces functionality.
Please confirm that my store will not lose it's selling privileges in 30
days, regardless the above.
Please confirm that HappyB will continue to be able to sell to buyers from other
EU countries.

Kind regards,
HappyB
Marcel
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Jul 14, 2021 08:57
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Teup (6595)

Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
Member Since Contact Type Status
May 6, 2004 Contact Member Seller
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Store: BLOKJESKONING
In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
  In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
  In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
  In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.


Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines



Dear BrickLink member,

Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.

Changes at a glance:

• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.

• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.

• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en

What this means for you:

• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.

• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.

• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.

This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.

Thank You,

The BrickLink Team


About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.

About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.

Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.

I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.

If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????

Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.

So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.

If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.

And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.

I planned a quiet day today!

https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp

Addition:

When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.

I was assuming submitting an OSS automatically means the VAT will be the percentage
of the buyer's country. They're asking sellers to do that, so that must
mean that that is what Bricklink is supporting. But yes, it would be good to
hear some more info on this. For example if it can be switched on and off by
the seller, or if Bricklink is forcing sellers. (Although you can still do what
you want in your own administration and ignore what Bricklink does, if you're
not fussy about earning 1-2% more or less)

If you count the time you spend on administration since all changes with PostNL,
Brexit, US Sales Tax, we already lost a lot. So, yes I am 'fussy' about
1-2% less.
Although I don't know the outcome yet. DE 19% sales might be more 21+% sales.

But it's the administration that counts. Time is money!
And speaking about Time: Er komt 'n tijd dat we meer bezig zijn met administratie
dan met de rest van onze in- en verkoop werkzaamheden.

If my Sale price incl. 21% VAT is € 121, a German buyer should see a price of
€ 119 and receive an Invoice or Purchase notification of € 119, VAT 19% =
€ 19 over € 100 NET. If they still pay € 121, the seller has to calculate, received
€ 121 / 119 x 100 = NET and € 121 / 119 x 19 = VAT

Back to the sixties!

Ah yep it depends on your workflow I guess. I have always ignored Bricklink's
VAT and other features, I just feed the order's grand total into my software
and work from there. So if I receive €121 instead of €119 from a German customer
it would make no difference to me in terms of administration. Right now it charges
21% regardless, and will charge the percentage of the buyer once I update the
software in december. So I ignore what Bricklink does.

But of course, all of this isn't an excuse for Bricklink not to get it right.
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: Jul 14, 2021 08:48
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Location:  Netherlands, Gelderland
Member Since Contact Type Status
Jan 12, 2007 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: TakeAbricK
BrickLink Catalog Associate (?)
In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
  In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
  In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.


Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines



Dear BrickLink member,

Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.

Changes at a glance:

• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.

• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.

• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en

What this means for you:

• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.

• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.

• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.

This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.

Thank You,

The BrickLink Team


About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.

About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.

Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.

I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.

If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????

Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.

So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.

If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.

And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.

I planned a quiet day today!

https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp

Addition:

When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.

I was assuming submitting an OSS automatically means the VAT will be the percentage
of the buyer's country. They're asking sellers to do that, so that must
mean that that is what Bricklink is supporting. But yes, it would be good to
hear some more info on this. For example if it can be switched on and off by
the seller, or if Bricklink is forcing sellers. (Although you can still do what
you want in your own administration and ignore what Bricklink does, if you're
not fussy about earning 1-2% more or less)

If you count the time you spend on administration since all changes with PostNL,
Brexit, US Sales Tax, we already lost a lot. So, yes I am 'fussy' about
1-2% less.
Although I don't know the outcome yet. DE 19% sales might be more 21+% sales.

But it's the administration that counts. Time is money!
And speaking about Time: Er komt 'n tijd dat we meer bezig zijn met administratie
dan met de rest van onze in- en verkoop werkzaamheden.

If my Sale price incl. 21% VAT is € 121, a German buyer should see a price of
€ 119 and receive an Invoice or Purchase notification of € 119, VAT 19% =
€ 19 over € 100 NET. If they still pay € 121, the seller has to calculate, received
€ 121 / 119 x 100 = NET and € 121 / 119 x 19 = VAT

Back to the sixties!
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: Jul 14, 2021 08:37
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Location:  Netherlands, Gelderland
Member Since Contact Type Status
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Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: TakeAbricK
BrickLink Catalog Associate (?)
In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
  In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.


Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines



Dear BrickLink member,

Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.

Changes at a glance:

• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.

• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.

• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en

What this means for you:

• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.

• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.

• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.

This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.

Thank You,

The BrickLink Team


About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.

About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.

Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.

I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.

If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????

Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.

So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.

If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.

And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.

I planned a quiet day today!

https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp

Addition:

When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.

I was assuming submitting an OSS automatically means the VAT will be the percentage
of the buyer's country. They're asking sellers to do that, so that must
mean that that is what Bricklink is supporting. But yes, it would be good to
hear some more info on this. For example if it can be switched on and off by
the seller, or if Bricklink is forcing sellers. (Although you can still do what
you want in your own administration and ignore what Bricklink does, if you're
not fussy about earning 1-2% more or less)

If you count the time you spend on administration since all changes with PostNL,
Brexit, US Sales Tax, we already lost a lot. So, yes I am 'fussy' about
1-2% less.
Although I don't know the outcome yet. DE 19% sales might be more 21+% sales.

But it's the administration that counts. Time is money!
And speaking about Time: Er komt 'n tijd dat we meer bezig zijn met administratie
dan met de rest van onze in- en verkoop werkzaamheden.
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Addition:

When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.

That's my question too!

If a buyer from Germany buys from me then, the vat is 19%, if it's a customer
from Hongary, it's 27%! Must i eat the difference myself? Or just put 27%
on all my items to avoid that?

How can i manage that with my prices?

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