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 Author: stecre View Messages Posted By stecre
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In Catalog Requests, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
  In Catalog Requests, starbeanie writes:
  Somebody is doing something. They all disappeared.

In Catalog Requests, stecre writes:
  
  In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:

I agree. This needs to be changed.

Cheers,
Randy

Thanks for the support on this (and everyone else)

I would prefer the OP's idea, though.

Yes otherwise the reason they were changed in the first place is lost again...
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 Author: Give.Me.A.Brick View Messages Posted By Give.Me.A.Brick
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In Catalog Requests, starbeanie writes:
  Somebody is doing something. They all disappeared.

In Catalog Requests, stecre writes:
  
  In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:

I agree. This needs to be changed.

Cheers,
Randy

Thanks for the support on this (and everyone else)

Steve

I would prefer the OP's idea, though.
 Author: starbeanie View Messages Posted By starbeanie
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Somebody is doing something. They all disappeared.

In Catalog Requests, stecre writes:
  
  In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:

I agree. This needs to be changed.

Cheers,
Randy

Thanks for the support on this (and everyone else)

Steve
 Author: stecre View Messages Posted By stecre
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  In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:

I agree. This needs to be changed.

Cheers,
Randy

Thanks for the support on this (and everyone else)

Steve
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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In Catalog Requests, stecre writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, stecre writes:
  I may have missed a discussion but was there a specific reason why all the big
figures have been renamed as "Big Figure - NAME"

e.g.
 
Minifig No: sh414  Name: Bane
* 
sh414 (Inv) Bane
Minifigures: Super Heroes: The LEGO Batman Movie
 
Minifig No: sw0402  Name: Jabba The Hutt - Tan Face
* 
sw0402 (Inv) Jabba The Hutt - Tan Face
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6

Would it not have been better to be "NAME (Big Figure)" so that they still appear
in the correct alphabetic order in their respective categories?

to find them easier
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1177545

I've just stumbled across this again so apologies for the reply to a post
from April!

In some ways this change has made it harder to find them; for example if you
look at the list of all Star Wars figures and order by "Item NAME", Jabba appears
under "B" rather than "J". I'm sure most people would expect it to be under
"J". This irks me no end!

Can the big figure item names not be changed to be the other way round as suggested
e.g. "Jabba - Big Figure" then they would still be searchable by the term "big
figure" AND appear in the right order in the catalog list so everyone's happy.

Thanks for your consideration.
Steve

I agree. This needs to be changed.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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On a side note, the sheer number of incomplete Bane big figures is disturbing
considering that the rule on incomplete minifigs is now being enforced
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Catalog Requests, stecre writes:
  In Catalog Requests, yensid writes:
  Agreed. As a database engineer as my non-LEGO job, you realize how important
it is to name things so that they sort where you would expect them to be. Other
wise end users either cannot find what they are looking for, or end up creating
another entry (say, a custom item in this case) for it because they think it
does not exist.

Funnily enough, I am a database engineer too!

Also a database engineer (among other things), and I wonder whether there are
enough big figures that they should be in their own sub-category under Minifigs
(I think the same thing about Mini-dolls too).
 Author: Give.Me.A.Brick View Messages Posted By Give.Me.A.Brick
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In Catalog Requests, stecre writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, stecre writes:
  I may have missed a discussion but was there a specific reason why all the big
figures have been renamed as "Big Figure - NAME"

e.g.
 
Minifig No: sh414  Name: Bane
* 
sh414 (Inv) Bane
Minifigures: Super Heroes: The LEGO Batman Movie
 
Minifig No: sw0402  Name: Jabba The Hutt - Tan Face
* 
sw0402 (Inv) Jabba The Hutt - Tan Face
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6

Would it not have been better to be "NAME (Big Figure)" so that they still appear
in the correct alphabetic order in their respective categories?

to find them easier
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1177545

I've just stumbled across this again so apologies for the reply to a post
from April!

In some ways this change has made it harder to find them; for example if you
look at the list of all Star Wars figures and order by "Item NAME", Jabba appears
under "B" rather than "J". I'm sure most people would expect it to be under
"J". This irks me no end!

Can the big figure item names not be changed to be the other way round as suggested
e.g. "Jabba - Big Figure" then they would still be searchable by the term "big
figure" AND appear in the right order in the catalog list so everyone's happy.

Thanks for your consideration.
Steve

Agreed.
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
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In Catalog Requests, stecre writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, stecre writes:
  I may have missed a discussion but was there a specific reason why all the big
figures have been renamed as "Big Figure - NAME"

e.g.
 
Minifig No: sh414  Name: Bane
* 
sh414 (Inv) Bane
Minifigures: Super Heroes: The LEGO Batman Movie
 
Minifig No: sw0402  Name: Jabba The Hutt - Tan Face
* 
sw0402 (Inv) Jabba The Hutt - Tan Face
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6

Would it not have been better to be "NAME (Big Figure)" so that they still appear
in the correct alphabetic order in their respective categories?

to find them easier
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1177545

I've just stumbled across this again so apologies for the reply to a post
from April!

In some ways this change has made it harder to find them; for example if you
look at the list of all Star Wars figures and order by "Item NAME", Jabba appears
under "B" rather than "J". I'm sure most people would expect it to be under
"J". This irks me no end!

Can the big figure item names not be changed to be the other way round as suggested
e.g. "Jabba - Big Figure" then they would still be searchable by the term "big
figure" AND appear in the right order in the catalog list so everyone's happy.

Thanks for your consideration.
Steve

I too think this order change might be beneficial, lets see if Stormchaser can
comment on this.
 Author: stecre View Messages Posted By stecre
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In Catalog Requests, yensid writes:
  Agreed. As a database engineer as my non-LEGO job, you realize how important
it is to name things so that they sort where you would expect them to be. Other
wise end users either cannot find what they are looking for, or end up creating
another entry (say, a custom item in this case) for it because they think it
does not exist.

Funnily enough, I am a database engineer too!

Steve
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In Catalog Requests, stecre writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, stecre writes:
  I may have missed a discussion but was there a specific reason why all the big
figures have been renamed as "Big Figure - NAME"

e.g.
 
Minifig No: sh414  Name: Bane
* 
sh414 (Inv) Bane
Minifigures: Super Heroes: The LEGO Batman Movie
 
Minifig No: sw0402  Name: Jabba The Hutt - Tan Face
* 
sw0402 (Inv) Jabba The Hutt - Tan Face
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6

Would it not have been better to be "NAME (Big Figure)" so that they still appear
in the correct alphabetic order in their respective categories?

to find them easier
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1177545

I've just stumbled across this again so apologies for the reply to a post
from April!

In some ways this change has made it harder to find them; for example if you
look at the list of all Star Wars figures and order by "Item NAME", Jabba appears
under "B" rather than "J". I'm sure most people would expect it to be under
"J". This irks me no end!

Can the big figure item names not be changed to be the other way round as suggested
e.g. "Jabba - Big Figure" then they would still be searchable by the term "big
figure" AND appear in the right order in the catalog list so everyone's happy.

Thanks for your consideration.
Steve

Agreed. As a database engineer as my non-LEGO job, you realize how important
it is to name things so that they sort where you would expect them to be. Other
wise end users either cannot find what they are looking for, or end up creating
another entry (say, a custom item in this case) for it because they think it
does not exist.
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, stecre writes:
  I may have missed a discussion but was there a specific reason why all the big
figures have been renamed as "Big Figure - NAME"

e.g.
 
Minifig No: sh414  Name: Bane
* 
sh414 (Inv) Bane
Minifigures: Super Heroes: The LEGO Batman Movie
 
Minifig No: sw0402  Name: Jabba The Hutt - Tan Face
* 
sw0402 (Inv) Jabba The Hutt - Tan Face
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6

Would it not have been better to be "NAME (Big Figure)" so that they still appear
in the correct alphabetic order in their respective categories?

to find them easier
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1177545

I've just stumbled across this again so apologies for the reply to a post
from April!

In some ways this change has made it harder to find them; for example if you
look at the list of all Star Wars figures and order by "Item NAME", Jabba appears
under "B" rather than "J". I'm sure most people would expect it to be under
"J". This irks me no end!

Can the big figure item names not be changed to be the other way round as suggested
e.g. "Jabba - Big Figure" then they would still be searchable by the term "big
figure" AND appear in the right order in the catalog list so everyone's happy.

Thanks for your consideration.
Steve
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  Nice catch. I am surprised that all of the diehard crazy Star Wars minifigure
collectors who freak out about every tiny little print variant never noticed this.

There are more than a few discrepancies in BL’s SW cataloging, that your so
called “diehard crazy Star Wars collectors” simply don’t “freak out about” any
longer, here anyway. Call it learned behavior.

You can't fix what you don't bring up.

You don't inspire others to help fix, if you refer to and view them as "crazies"
that "freak out" either. Maybe the one has to do with the other

You keep focusing on a part of my comment that was meant in jest. It was an attempt
at humor as an inside joke to Marek, because Marek is the one who inventoried
the second Watto minifigure, he is a Star Wars fanatic, and he is the one on
our admin team who deals with the Star Wars stuff and likes to make sure that
variations get their due. I don't know why you keep trying to spin it as
something that was meant in a negative light towards everyone out there.

Cheers,
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  In Catalog, randyf writes:
However, in this case, the Watto head
has multiple Element IDs attached to it, so it is quite obvious that the change
was intentional, was considered a different part by LEGO, and should be a different
part in the catalog. That is enough to get the Watto minifigures fixed.

+1
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  Nice catch. I am surprised that all of the diehard crazy Star Wars minifigure
collectors who freak out about every tiny little print variant never noticed this.

There are more than a few discrepancies in BL’s SW cataloging, that your so
called “diehard crazy Star Wars collectors” simply don’t “freak out about” any
longer, here anyway. Call it learned behavior.

You can't fix what you don't bring up.

You don't inspire others to help fix, if you refer to and view them as "crazies"
that "freak out" either. Maybe the one has to do with the other

  
  Don’t get me wrong, I think today’s cat team is the best and the catalog has
never looked better, but there’s still work to be done within the SW theme. Precisely
because you are right, Lego Star Wars collectors tend to be diehard, and will
find and concern themselves with print variations and production anomalies of
all verifiable types, from 1999 to date.

So speaking generally, how much production info are the current catalog decision
makers willing to include for the serious collectors, without confusing the casual
shopper?

-popsicle

I don't believe production anomalies should be cataloged. Production anomalies
are not intended

Intended? I would say that there are unintended print variations throughout the
catalog, but intention is nearly impossible to verify, isn't it? Whether
considering them anomalies or variations. If it's an actual print variation
or intentional change in production, it's another part it would seem.

  There are anomalies all over the place and in all kinds of themes.

I don't think anyone has or would claim otherwise, Randy

  The Star Wars theme is not special in this regard and should not be treated differently than any other theme.

Again, obvious statements to most, save for your so called "diehard crazies"

I'm not interested in a back'n forth, Randy. Just thought I'd give
you the point of view of some of those serious Lego Star Wars collectors you've
characterized, and that I've deal with over the years.

I'm really not that concerned what is done with the catalog, these days.
But it's worth repeating to those that work so hard at it: the catalog has
never looked better!

-popsicle
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In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  Nice catch. I am surprised that all of the diehard crazy Star Wars minifigure
collectors who freak out about every tiny little print variant never noticed this.

There are more than a few discrepancies in BL’s SW cataloging, that your so
called “diehard crazy Star Wars collectors” simply don’t “freak out about” any
longer, here anyway. Call it learned behavior.

You can't fix what you don't bring up.

  Don’t get me wrong, I think today’s cat team is the best and the catalog has
never looked better, but there’s still work to be done within the SW theme. Precisely
because you are right, Lego Star Wars collectors tend to be diehard, and will
find and concern themselves with print variations and production anomalies of
all verifiable types, from 1999 to date.

So speaking generally, how much production info are the current catalog decision
makers willing to include for the serious collectors, without confusing the casual
shopper?

-popsicle

I don't believe production anomalies should be cataloged. Production anomalies
are not intended, and There are anomalies all over the place and in all kinds
of themes. The Star Wars theme is not special in this regard and should not be
treated differently than any other theme. However, in this case, the Watto head
has multiple Element IDs attached to it, so it is quite obvious that the change
was intentional, was considered a different part by LEGO, and should be a different
part in the catalog. That is enough to get the Watto minifigures fixed.

Cheers,
Randy
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  Nice catch. I am surprised that all of the diehard crazy Star Wars minifigure
collectors who freak out about every tiny little print variant never noticed this.

There are more than a few discrepancies in BL’s SW cataloging, that your so
called “diehard crazy Star Wars collectors” simply don’t “freak out about” any
longer, here anyway. Call it learned behavior.

Don’t get me wrong, I think today’s cat team is the best and the catalog has
never looked better, but there’s still work to be done within the SW theme. Precisely
because you are right, Lego Star Wars collectors tend to be diehard, and will
find and concern themselves with print variations and production anomalies of
all verifiable types, from 1999 to date.

So speaking generally, how much production info are the current catalog decision
makers willing to include for the serious collectors, without confusing the casual
shopper?

-popsicle
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Nice catch. I am surprised that all of the diehard crazy Star Wars minifigure
collectors who freak out about every tiny little print variant never noticed
this.

In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
  I've noticed that both

 
Minifig No: sw0325  Name: Watto (Dark Bluish Gray Hands)
* 
sw0325 (Inv) Watto (Dark Bluish Gray Hands)
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 1

and

 
Minifig No: sw0649  Name: Watto (Tan Hands)
* 
sw0649 (Inv) Watto (Tan Hands)
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 1

claim to use

 
Part No: 92759pb01  Name: Minifigure, Head, Modified SW Watto with Vest and Belt Pattern
* 
92759pb01 Minifigure, Head, Modified SW Watto with Vest and Belt Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Head, Modified

but it appears that they are different.

The older version has yellow eyes with a more narrow vest opening while the newer
version appears to have orange eyes with a wider/more stretched vest opening
where the draw strings are located on the printing.

I don't have either one of them in stock or in hand, does anyone have both
versions in hand that they can confirm?
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I think they look different too. But I don't have Watto.

In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
  I've noticed that both

 
Minifig No: sw0325  Name: Watto (Dark Bluish Gray Hands)
* 
sw0325 (Inv) Watto (Dark Bluish Gray Hands)
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 1

and

 
Minifig No: sw0649  Name: Watto (Tan Hands)
* 
sw0649 (Inv) Watto (Tan Hands)
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 1

claim to use

 
Part No: 92759pb01  Name: Minifigure, Head, Modified SW Watto with Vest and Belt Pattern
* 
92759pb01 Minifigure, Head, Modified SW Watto with Vest and Belt Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Head, Modified

but it appears that they are different.

The older version has yellow eyes with a more narrow vest opening while the newer
version appears to have orange eyes with a wider/more stretched vest opening
where the draw strings are located on the printing.

I don't have either one of them in stock or in hand, does anyone have both
versions in hand that they can confirm?
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I've noticed that both

 
Minifig No: sw0325  Name: Watto (Dark Bluish Gray Hands)
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sw0325 (Inv) Watto (Dark Bluish Gray Hands)
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 1

and

 
Minifig No: sw0649  Name: Watto (Tan Hands)
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sw0649 (Inv) Watto (Tan Hands)
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 1

claim to use

 
Part No: 92759pb01  Name: Minifigure, Head, Modified SW Watto with Vest and Belt Pattern
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92759pb01 Minifigure, Head, Modified SW Watto with Vest and Belt Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Head, Modified

but it appears that they are different.

The older version has yellow eyes with a more narrow vest opening while the newer
version appears to have orange eyes with a wider/more stretched vest opening
where the draw strings are located on the printing.

I don't have either one of them in stock or in hand, does anyone have both
versions in hand that they can confirm?
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In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
  I'm sure LEGO won't release the item (56145) in Light Gray color to put
it only in some 9797 sets and not use it anymore.

If we had perfect knowledge, I am sure we would find that other sets had light
gray also. But most of those sets were opened and built and then went to garage
sales and trash cans. The ones that actually get opened and investigated are
a small sample. I have a vintage set on the way that has never been inventoried
before. And plenty of other sets haven't been verified or haven't been
parted out a lot by people who correct inventories.

Manufacturing pieces is one operation and packing sets is another operation and
the people or machines who pack the sets use the parts they have on hand.
It is clear from sets like 9797 and the Star Destroyer that set packers considered
LG and LBG to be the interchangeable until the time came that there were no more
LG parts in the bins. Hygrotus pulled a variant piece from a new set last year
that hadn't been seen in a new set in something like a decade. 32064c should
phase out somewhere around 2005, but Turez found one in a 2008 set. Because
some facility that packs sets still had some.

Frequently when entering PCCs on new pieces, I find something like (I am making
these specific numbers up!) most new PCCs we've been entering for months
are like 6301111 and 6301333 and then a new hair piece comes out with 6271222.
Sets are designed long before they are announced and released and there is no
reason to assume that a piece that didn't get released until 2006 wasn't
produced a few years earlier in some quantities. Some of the Dots elements were
made for Dots and then they decided not to release Dots and some of the pieces
made their way into sets last year. Then they decided to release Dots a year
later. They used those pieces in other sets because they had been manufactured
and were just sitting there. Similarly, LG 56145 may have been produced for
a set that didn't get released and then when they started making the piece
in LBG they used up the LG too. Or maybe when they develop a new part that they
want to start putting in sets, they start manufacturing it in the most obvious
colors, but by the time a designer put it in a set, they had changed over the
LBG, but still had the LG. We really don't know. But I promise you that
I can tell the difference between them and I found what I found. I have not
parted out 20 9797s. But I have parted out 8 of them from 5 different sources.
I have found all 3 heads and both kinds of hats and both kinds of light grays.
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  I have disassembled about 20 sets of 9797 (I have 17 Activity Booklet). I have
disassembled about 15 sets DACTA and Educational. Relying on this experience,
I wrote a message to the forum.

I'm sure LEGO won't release the item (56145) in Light Gray color to put
it only in some 9797 sets and not use it anymore.

Probably not. They probably made it for model shops and then the leftovers got
put into Dacta sets.

  I think LEGO could allow a
marriage in the composition of the plastic and the detail has changed color a
little over time.

This can happen occasionally to some colors in some conditions, but the difference
between light gray and light bluish gray is still noticeable.

  In the photo, the cap and legs that I took out of one sealed
package from the DACTA set. These details are blue, but the cap has a yellowish
tinge. And such blue details with a yellow tint I have seen in many sets of DACTA
and Educational. In my opinion, this is not a new blue color, it is a marriage
of plastic (I do not sell such parts).

This is a color that collectors refer to as "Brittle Blue". Do a search for it
in the forums and you will learn all about it.

  I don't think we should continue the argument. This is a question of the
difference between my experience and yours. I think the bricklink database administrator
already has enough information to make the right decision.

There never was an argument, was there? The history of LEGO encompasses a lot
more than just the Dacta sets, so you have to have a broader knowledge about
where they fit in the scheme of things. This history includes sets including
mixes of the grays long after the color switch in 2004, the fact that Dacta sets
are sometimes dumping grounds for leftover parts, etc.

  If necessary, I can send a request to LEGO to see if the 9797 set included parts
with the Light Gray color.

Go for it. However, I bet you, I, Jonathan (axaday) and a few others here probably
know a lot more about the set than they do.

Cheers,
Randy
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In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
  I have disassembled about 20 sets of 9797 (I have 17 Activity Booklet). I have
disassembled about 15 sets DACTA and Educational. Relying on this experience,
I wrote a message to the forum.

I'm sure LEGO won't release the item (56145) in Light Gray color to put
it only in some 9797 sets and not use it anymore. I think LEGO could allow a
marriage in the composition of the plastic and the detail has changed color a
little over time. In the photo, the cap and legs that I took out of one sealed
package from the DACTA set. These details are blue, but the cap has a yellowish
tinge. And such blue details with a yellow tint I have seen in many sets of DACTA
and Educational. In my opinion, this is not a new blue color, it is a marriage
of plastic (I do not sell such parts).

I don't think we should continue the argument. This is a question of the
difference between my experience and yours. I think the bricklink database administrator
already has enough information to make the right decision.

If necessary, I can send a request to LEGO to see if the 9797 set included parts
with the Light Gray color.

A little more information about the configuration of 9797 sets:
Items 41752 and 41753 were included only in the set of 2006, in the future (2009
and 2012) rubbers lay in cardboard boxes.
Part bb0273 could only be included in the 2006 kit along with the x1678 battery.
Part bb0527 could only be included in the 2009 and 2012 set along with the 87662c01
battery.

Regards
Alexei

That hat color is known here as Brittle Blue. You can search that on the forum
to find out more.
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I have disassembled about 20 sets of 9797 (I have 17 Activity Booklet). I have
disassembled about 15 sets DACTA and Educational. Relying on this experience,
I wrote a message to the forum.

I'm sure LEGO won't release the item (56145) in Light Gray color to put
it only in some 9797 sets and not use it anymore. I think LEGO could allow a
marriage in the composition of the plastic and the detail has changed color a
little over time. In the photo, the cap and legs that I took out of one sealed
package from the DACTA set. These details are blue, but the cap has a yellowish
tinge. And such blue details with a yellow tint I have seen in many sets of DACTA
and Educational. In my opinion, this is not a new blue color, it is a marriage
of plastic (I do not sell such parts).

I don't think we should continue the argument. This is a question of the
difference between my experience and yours. I think the bricklink database administrator
already has enough information to make the right decision.

If necessary, I can send a request to LEGO to see if the 9797 set included parts
with the Light Gray color.

A little more information about the configuration of 9797 sets:
Items 41752 and 41753 were included only in the set of 2006, in the future (2009
and 2012) rubbers lay in cardboard boxes.
Part bb0273 could only be included in the 2006 kit along with the x1678 battery.
Part bb0527 could only be included in the 2009 and 2012 set along with the 87662c01
battery.

Regards
Alexei
 
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In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
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  Hi,

Your pictures would be extremely useful, but BrickLink has mangled them into
tiny and therefore unusable sizes. Do you have these uploaded somewhere that
we can access them in large sizes? If not, then can you do that?

Also, do we have your permission to use these photos as catalog images if we
need to?

I hope these photos are suitable for the site. Write if you need other photos.
I allow you to use these photos on the Bricklink website.
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In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
  Here is one of the most high profile cases of this:
 
Set No: 10030  Name: Imperial Star Destroyer - UCS
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10030-1 (Inv) Imperial Star Destroyer - UCS
3106 Parts, 2002
Sets: Star Wars: Ultimate Collector Series: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6

I bought my 10030 a year after I decided to because I had to wait until I got
a bonus at work. It arrived in LBG. I had never seen LBG before and I hated
it.

I have gotten used to LBG by now. I do like LG better. But on the Star Destroyer,
LBG just isn't right.
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  Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.

This is definitely not true. There are a number of sets during the color transition
era where the old grays and new grays were mixed together in the same set. Please
do some research before making such broad generalizations.

Here is one of the most high profile cases of this:
 
Set No: 10030  Name: Imperial Star Destroyer - UCS
* 
10030-1 (Inv) Imperial Star Destroyer - UCS
3106 Parts, 2002
Sets: Star Wars: Ultimate Collector Series: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6

See the additional note on the set:

"The early production runs of this set featured Light Gray elements but subsequent
production runs have contained varying mixtures of Light Gray and Light Bluish
Gray elements."
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In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
  In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
  In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
  Hi,

I apologize in advance for my English, it is translated by Google.
I bought and sorted 9797 sets a lot, so I have information about 9797 sets.
Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012. You can distinguish
the set versions by the LEGO copyright information on the boxes and paper sheets.

The first version of the set (2006) had the following differences:
1 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538b Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation)
4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Black Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
4019 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (First Version - 4 Round Holes)
32269 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
x1678 Dark Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, AC plug

The second version of the set (2009) had the following differences:
2 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538c Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
4716 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Blue Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
94925 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (Second Version - Reinforced)
32269 Tan Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
87662c01 Very Light Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, DC
plug
Add 55615 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin Connector Perpendicular 3 x 3 Bent with
4 Pins

Third version of the set (2012) had the following differences:
Removed x1676 Black Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm
Removed 6035c01 White Electric, Light Brick 1 x 2 with Single Side Light (6034
/ 6035)

There are errors in inventory 9797, this set did not have details of color "Light
Gray".
I didn't track the differences in the parts of the minifigures.

Best regards
Alexei

I have parted this set out many times. I did find light gray pieces once.

Thanks for your reply.
I think this is a mistake.
Or the parts were replaced with parts with the color Light Gray (in the used
set). Or the parts are yellowed with time (if the set was sealed).

Jon only parts out brand new sets that have never been opened. If he found light
gray parts, he found light gray parts.

  If we look in the Bricklink database for details with the color Light Gray (3023,
3894, 3702, 3703, 56145), then we will see that LEGO did not use this color after
2004.

They sure did. See https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&colorInSet=9&sortBy=Y&sortAsc=D&catType=S

  A set of 9797 began production in 2006. The 56145 wheel was not produced
at all in the Light Gray color.

It was at some point, and it happened to make it into this set according to Jon.

  Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.

This is definitely not true. There are a number of sets during the color transition
era where the old grays and new grays were mixed together in the same set. Please
do some research before making such broad generalizations.

Cheers,
Randy
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In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
  In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
  In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
  Hi,

I apologize in advance for my English, it is translated by Google.
I bought and sorted 9797 sets a lot, so I have information about 9797 sets.
Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012. You can distinguish
the set versions by the LEGO copyright information on the boxes and paper sheets.

The first version of the set (2006) had the following differences:
1 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538b Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation)
4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Black Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
4019 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (First Version - 4 Round Holes)
32269 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
x1678 Dark Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, AC plug

The second version of the set (2009) had the following differences:
2 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538c Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
4716 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Blue Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
94925 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (Second Version - Reinforced)
32269 Tan Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
87662c01 Very Light Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, DC
plug
Add 55615 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin Connector Perpendicular 3 x 3 Bent with
4 Pins

Third version of the set (2012) had the following differences:
Removed x1676 Black Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm
Removed 6035c01 White Electric, Light Brick 1 x 2 with Single Side Light (6034
/ 6035)

There are errors in inventory 9797, this set did not have details of color "Light
Gray".
I didn't track the differences in the parts of the minifigures.

Best regards
Alexei

I have parted this set out many times. I did find light gray pieces once.

Thanks for your reply.
I think this is a mistake.
Or the parts were replaced with parts with the color Light Gray (in the used
set). Or the parts are yellowed with time (if the set was sealed).
If we look in the Bricklink database for details with the color Light Gray (3023,
3894, 3702, 3703, 56145), then we will see that LEGO did not use this color after
2004. A set of 9797 began production in 2006. The 56145 wheel was not produced
at all in the Light Gray color.

Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.

Alexei
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In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
  Thanks for your reply.
I think this is a mistake.
Or the parts were replaced with parts with the color Light Gray (in the used
set). Or the parts are yellowed with time (if the set was sealed).

Sealed sets, very nice Light Gray, not yellowy Light Bluish Gray.

  If we look in the Bricklink database for details with the color Light Gray (3023,
3894, 3702, 3703, 56145), then we will see that LEGO did not use this color after
2004. A set of 9797 began production in 2006.

And sets routinely come with older variant pieces that were no longer in production
when the set was produced.


  The 56145 wheel was not produced
at all in the Light Gray color.

What I am telling you is that they did. I have seen them and I sold them in
January.

  Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.

I have seen it several times in Dacta Technic/Mindstorm sets.
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  Your pictures would be extremely useful, but BrickLink has mangled them into
tiny and therefore unusable sizes. Do you have these uploaded somewhere that
we can access them in large sizes? If not, then can you do that?

Also, do we have your permission to use these photos as catalog images if we
need to?

I will try to take some good photos tomorrow afternoon and upload them for free
download. I allow you to use these photos on the Bricklink website.
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In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
  In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
  Hi,

I apologize in advance for my English, it is translated by Google.
I bought and sorted 9797 sets a lot, so I have information about 9797 sets.
Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012. You can distinguish
the set versions by the LEGO copyright information on the boxes and paper sheets.

The first version of the set (2006) had the following differences:
1 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538b Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation)
4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Black Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
4019 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (First Version - 4 Round Holes)
32269 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
x1678 Dark Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, AC plug

The second version of the set (2009) had the following differences:
2 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538c Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
4716 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Blue Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
94925 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (Second Version - Reinforced)
32269 Tan Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
87662c01 Very Light Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, DC
plug
Add 55615 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin Connector Perpendicular 3 x 3 Bent with
4 Pins

Third version of the set (2012) had the following differences:
Removed x1676 Black Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm
Removed 6035c01 White Electric, Light Brick 1 x 2 with Single Side Light (6034
/ 6035)

There are errors in inventory 9797, this set did not have details of color "Light
Gray".
I didn't track the differences in the parts of the minifigures.

Best regards
Alexei

I have parted this set out many times. I did find light gray pieces once.

Thanks for your reply.
I think this is a mistake.
Or the parts were replaced with parts with the color Light Gray (in the used
set). Or the parts are yellowed with time (if the set was sealed).
If we look in the Bricklink database for details with the color Light Gray (3023,
3894, 3702, 3703, 56145), then we will see that LEGO did not use this color after
2004. A set of 9797 began production in 2006. The 56145 wheel was not produced
at all in the Light Gray color.

Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.

Alexei
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In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
  Hi,

I apologize in advance for my English, it is translated by Google.
I bought and sorted 9797 sets a lot, so I have information about 9797 sets.
Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012. You can distinguish
the set versions by the LEGO copyright information on the boxes and paper sheets.

The first version of the set (2006) had the following differences:
1 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538b Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation)
4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Black Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
4019 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (First Version - 4 Round Holes)
32269 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
x1678 Dark Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, AC plug

The second version of the set (2009) had the following differences:
2 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538c Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
4716 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Blue Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
94925 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (Second Version - Reinforced)
32269 Tan Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
87662c01 Very Light Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, DC
plug
Add 55615 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin Connector Perpendicular 3 x 3 Bent with
4 Pins

Third version of the set (2012) had the following differences:
Removed x1676 Black Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm
Removed 6035c01 White Electric, Light Brick 1 x 2 with Single Side Light (6034
/ 6035)

There are errors in inventory 9797, this set did not have details of color "Light
Gray".
I didn't track the differences in the parts of the minifigures.

Best regards
Alexei

I have parted this set out many times. I did find light gray pieces once.
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In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
  Hi,

Your pictures would be extremely useful, but BrickLink has mangled them into
tiny and therefore unusable sizes. Do you have these uploaded somewhere that
we can access them in large sizes? If not, then can you do that?

Also, do we have your permission to use these photos as catalog images if we
need to?
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Hi,

I apologize in advance for my English, it is translated by Google.
I bought and sorted 9797 sets a lot, so I have information about 9797 sets.
Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012. You can distinguish
the set versions by the LEGO copyright information on the boxes and paper sheets.

The first version of the set (2006) had the following differences:
1 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538b Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation)
4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Black Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
4019 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (First Version - 4 Round Holes)
32269 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
x1678 Dark Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, AC plug

The second version of the set (2009) had the following differences:
2 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538c Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
4716 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Blue Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
94925 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (Second Version - Reinforced)
32269 Tan Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
87662c01 Very Light Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, DC
plug
Add 55615 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin Connector Perpendicular 3 x 3 Bent with
4 Pins

Third version of the set (2012) had the following differences:
Removed x1676 Black Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm
Removed 6035c01 White Electric, Light Brick 1 x 2 with Single Side Light (6034
/ 6035)

There are errors in inventory 9797, this set did not have details of color "Light
Gray".
I didn't track the differences in the parts of the minifigures.

Best regards
Alexei
 














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In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
  Some of these titles are ridiculous

And I see now that a few items have no part inventories at all in their titles:

 
Part No: BA001pb02  Name: Stickered Assembly 3 x 2 x 1 2/3 with Exxon Tank Number 1 on Both Sides Pattern (Stickers) - Set 6375-2 - 2 Plate 2 x 3, 1 Brick 1 x 2, 1 Brick 1 x 3, 1 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Headlight
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BA001pb02 Stickered Assembly 3 x 2 x 1 2/3 with Exxon Tank Number 1 on Both Sides Pattern (Stickers) - Set 6375-2 - 2 Plate 2 x 3, 1 Brick 1 x 2, 1 Brick 1 x 3, 1 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Headlight
Parts: Stickered Assembly
 
Part No: BA082pb02  Name: Stickered Assembly 3 x 2 x 1 2/3 with Exxon Tank Number 2 on Both Sides Pattern (Stickers) - Set 6375-2 - 2 Plate 2 x 3, 1 Brick 1 x 2, 1 Brick 1 x 3, 1 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Headlight
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BA082pb02 Stickered Assembly 3 x 2 x 1 2/3 with Exxon Tank Number 2 on Both Sides Pattern (Stickers) - Set 6375-2 - 2 Plate 2 x 3, 1 Brick 1 x 2, 1 Brick 1 x 3, 1 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Headlight
Parts: Stickered Assembly
 
Part No: BA001pb01  Name: Stickered Assembly 3 x 2 x 1 2/3 with Shell Tank Number 1 Pattern (Sticker) - Set 6610 - 2 Plate 2 x 3, 1 Brick 1 x 2, 1 Brick 1 x 3, 1 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Headlight
* 
BA001pb01 Stickered Assembly 3 x 2 x 1 2/3 with Shell Tank Number 1 Pattern (Sticker) - Set 6610 - 2 Plate 2 x 3, 1 Brick 1 x 2, 1 Brick 1 x 3, 1 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Headlight
Parts: Stickered Assembly
Marked for Deletion
 
Part No: BA007pb01  Name: Stickered Assembly 8 x 1 x 4 with 'BANK' and Dollar Sign Pattern (Sticker) - Set 6765
* 
BA007pb01 Stickered Assembly 8 x 1 x 4 with 'BANK' and Dollar Sign Pattern (Sticker) - Set 6765
Parts: Stickered Assembly
 
Part No: BA010pb01  Name: Stickered Assembly 10 x 1 x 2 with 'SHERIFF' Sign Pattern (Sticker) - Sets 6755 / 6764 - 2 Brick 1 x 10
* 
BA010pb01 Stickered Assembly 10 x 1 x 2 with 'SHERIFF' Sign Pattern (Sticker) - Sets 6755 / 6764 - 2 Brick 1 x 10
Parts: Stickered Assembly

So, the usual inconsistencies unabashedly present themselves.
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In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Turez writes:
  The inventory depends on whether you have set a color or not.

Aha! Very nice. I understand it now.

But I believe a problem still remains. The system should always default to the
Select Color view, or at least I should be able to tell the system to do that
if that's how I prefer to see things (and it is).

Right now the system appears to default to a specific color only when
the item appears only in that color and all items for sale are in that color.

Otherwise, it appears to always default to Select Color. I would like
it to always default to the Select Color view, or at least for me to be able
to adjust my settings that way.

Thanks very much for helping me understand why this was occurring.

This was put into place in 2015 as a "solution" to the problem of variable color.
However, I would strongly encourage any member serious about using the catalog
to NOT use the inventories page via the tab on the current catalog detail page.
There are many errors / non sequiturs on these pages, which were slapped onto
the catalog page as an afterthought. Use the classic page via the Item Consists
Of link.
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In Catalog Requests, Turez writes:
  The inventory depends on whether you have set a color or not.

Aha! Very nice. I understand it now.

But I believe a problem still remains. The system should always default to the
Select Color view, or at least I should be able to tell the system to do that
if that's how I prefer to see things (and it is).

Right now the system appears to default to a specific color only when
the item appears only in that color and all items for sale are in that color.

Otherwise, it appears to always default to Select Color. I would like
it to always default to the Select Color view, or at least for me to be able
to adjust my settings that way.

Thanks very much for helping me understand why this was occurring.
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In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
  It appears to be just some kind of bug, which is what
I originally thought.

But I was being nice and thinking it might be a feature, albeit an unhelpful
feature.

Anyway, screenshots below so you know I ain't making it up. This is the
inventory of 2878c01. Sometimes I get one method of display, and sometimes I
get the other. No idea why, but I'm wondering if clicking into the old inventory
page might have some effect.

The inventory depends on whether you have set a color or not.
 




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In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
  It appears to be just some kind of bug, which is what
I originally thought.

But I was being nice and thinking it might be a feature, albeit an unhelpful
feature.

Anyway, screenshots below so you know I ain't making it up. This is the
inventory of 2878c01. Sometimes I get one method of display, and sometimes I
get the other. No idea why, but I'm wondering if clicking into the old inventory
page might have some effect.
 


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In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
  Making this a catalog request

Okay, I take it back. It appears to be just some kind of bug, which is what
I originally thought. Now I'm getting variable results when I click on things.
Perhaps this could be looked into either way.
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  I propose that to cut down on confusion, these sets be changed to have inventories
that list only alternate parts, so that the accurate color names show up as suggestions
when people add the parts to their inventories or wanted lists.

 
Set No: 70372  Name: Combo NEXO Powers Wave 1 polybag
* 
70372-1 (Inv) Combo NEXO Powers Wave 1 polybag
10 Parts, 2017
Sets: NEXO KNIGHTS: Supplemental

The nexo shield packs that contain five shields are almost listed like this.
Five shields are listed as regular items, the other ones in the series are listed
as alternates. This way, the regular part count is correct although it does define
some shields as regular and others as alternate when in reality they are random
(for a given colour).
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I want to put forward multiple requests regarding a few Bionicle supplementary
sets.

First issue: the original 18 Bionicle masks come in 6-10+ colors each. However,
most of them only come in one or a few sets, in one or a few colors. The rest
come from "mask packs", where you could get two random masks from a set palette
of colors. Because these mask packs are random, bricklink has them labeled as
"cannot be inventoried", but this means that the majority of official colors
that these parts come in do not show up in the catalog. As a result, many sellers
upload their parts incorrectly, as well as buyers putting them on their wanted
lists wrong.

A particularly strong example of this is the "bionicle mask kaukau". It's
a more popular one, with the trans-neon-orange variant selling for around $12
right now. However, 22 people put trans-orange on their wanted list, and sellers
capitalized on this by uploading them as such. If you look at the price guide
for regular trans-orange, they sell for a whopping $20-40!

I propose that to cut down on confusion, these sets be changed to have inventories
that list only alternate parts, so that the accurate color names show up as suggestions
when people add the parts to their inventories or wanted lists.

If somebody is willing to help me with this, i will gladly supply information
on which parts could be found in each pack. It does get a little confusing, but
bionicle is very well documented

-----------------------------------

Perhaps contradictory to my first suggestion, there are a few bionicle supplementary
sets that have random parts inventories but DO have inventories on bricklink.
Since these sets usually have no exclusive parts, they SHOULD be changed to "cannot
be inventoried", especially since there's no point in selling them unless
they're unopened.

These sets include:
6620-1 Ultimate Accessory Set 500
6637-1 Ultimate Battle Set
6638-1 Ultimate Creatures Accessory Set (Special Edition) 300+ Pieces
8711-1 Master Accessory Kit 702 Pieces
8713-1 Limited Edition 500 Pieces
8715-1 Ultimate Creatures Accessory Set
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In Catalog Requests, TyresOFlaherty writes:
  Thank you! I sent the submit request, I assume since it's just the one color
(red) that I'd use 1 as the sequence number?

Yep. You did it perfectly!
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Thank you! I sent the submit request, I assume since it's just the one color
(red) that I'd use 1 as the sequence number?

In Catalog Requests, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog Requests, TyresOFlaherty writes:
  I created the reference 42859pb01 originally (from the SDCC Unikitty from last
year) and now that 70831 is out, the instructions list it as 6253956.

There are a couple other items from that SDCC set that now have alternate numbers
as well. Is there a way I can fix the rest of them? I wasn't sure how to
do it. Thanks!

Just fill out this form:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReq.asp?itemType=P

You'll need to check this page to know which sequence number to use:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogColors.asp?itemType=P&itemNo=42859pb01&v=2

The 7 digit number is called a PCC and it is uploaded with a specific color.
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In Catalog Requests, TyresOFlaherty writes:
  I created the reference 42859pb01 originally (from the SDCC Unikitty from last
year) and now that 70831 is out, the instructions list it as 6253956.

There are a couple other items from that SDCC set that now have alternate numbers
as well. Is there a way I can fix the rest of them? I wasn't sure how to
do it. Thanks!

Just fill out this form:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReq.asp?itemType=P

You'll need to check this page to know which sequence number to use:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogColors.asp?itemType=P&itemNo=42859pb01&v=2

The 7 digit number is called a PCC and it is uploaded with a specific color.
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In Catalog Requests, jennnifer writes:
  Bump!


Will take care of it after weekend
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?invPend=Y&itemInvUserID=241621
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Bump!

In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  What is the difference between these two?

[m=sw0993]
 
Minifig No: sw0530  Name: Chief Tarfful
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sw0530 (Inv) Chief Tarfful
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 3

Thanks
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In Catalog Requests, mcmit writes:
  Please ignore /cancel my change requests to 10865 and 10895

I entered the wrong set number the first time and I made a error on the width
of 10895 details, regardless of that the details already submitted for 10895
correspond closely with the ones I entered.

You can cancel Pending Requests from your My Activity page:

https://www.bricklink.com/myActivity.asp?utm_content=subnav

Jen
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In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
  In Catalog Requests, FauconRoyal writes:
  Hello,

I recently purchased the "SDCC2018-2: Black Lightning" set. I then went on Brickset
to add it to my collection, but no minifig is listed for the set. I proceeded
to send them a message so they could fix this error, but they told me they rely
on Bricklink for their minifig inventory.
That's why I'm posting a message here. I noticed that there are two entries
for Black Lightning on Bricklink : comcon056-1 for the full set and sh521 for
the minifig. But these two entries are not linked one to another.
Could someone in the admin team link them?

Thanks a lot!

Is the minifig all there is in the set? It doesn't look like there are any
accessories.

If it is just the minifig, go to https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvAdd.asp?viewType=S

Under manual add, type comcon056 and then 1 in number of entries. Then hit "Go
to step 2".

On the next page, change the P to M under item type, type sh521 under item number,
0 under color ID, and 1 under quantity. Further down, set Source? to Sealed
Set Contents and hit Verify Items. On the next page click Add Inventory.

It is pretty easy, but I can't do it for you, because the person who does
it is attesting that they have the item and can verify its contents. So you
can do it.

Thanks very much, just did it!

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