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 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
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In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  In a sealed set 4203 I found the red 44301 with and without groove. Is it normal
to have different variations of one part in one set? Should it be noted or is
the Undetermined Type in the inventory enough?

Yes, it's normal. I just opened hundreds of sealed sets from 2015-2017 and
another few dozen individual sealed bags from 2005-2018. Not only is it normal
to have groove/no groove differences in the same set, but it's also normal
for the proportion of them to vary between different copies of the same set,
even bought at the same place on the same day. Same for hollow stud/blocked open
stud on heads and certain other pieces, same for hollow/solid underside tubes
on bricks and plates, same for virtually every mold difference.
 Author: BricksThatStick View Messages Posted By BricksThatStick
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In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  In a sealed set 4203 I found the red 44301 with and without groove. Is it normal
to have different variations of one part in one set? Should it be noted or is
the Undetermined Type in the inventory enough?

A sealed set sounds like a strong case to remove the undetermined type and add
what you actually found as regular and alternate parts
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In a sealed set 4203 I found the red 44301 with and without groove. Is it normal
to have different variations of one part in one set? Should it be noted or is
the Undetermined Type in the inventory enough?
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In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
  This must have been discussed before but I don't remember anything and I
can't find any postings.

Sets 501-3 and 042-1 don't have an inventory list for the vehicle although
you can often find the vehicle bases and occasionally the blue 3001oldb blue
brick seperately.

Was there a reason for not separating these components, I know the string could
pose a problem.

The 3001oldb red is listed.

 
Set No: 501  Name: JUMBO Pull Toy
* 
501-3 (Inv) JUMBO Pull Toy
9 Parts, 1966
Sets: Classic: Jumbo Bricks

 
Set No: 042  Name: Jumbo Brick Pull Toy
* 
042-1 (Inv) Jumbo Brick Pull Toy
9 Parts, 1966
Sets: Samsonite: Jumbo Bricks

 
Part No: 3001oldb  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top
* 
3001oldb Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top
Parts: Brick

I would love to see an inventory for x1447c01 in the catalog, but I don't
have the parts to add them.

And we also need a catalog entry for the Duplo pull cart with string and brick.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
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In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
  This must have been discussed before but I don't remember anything and I
can't find any postings.

Sets 501-3 and 042-1 don't have an inventory list for the vehicle although
you can often find the vehicle bases and occasionally the blue 3001oldb blue
brick seperately.

Was there a reason for not separating these components, I know the string could
pose a problem.

The 3001oldb red is listed.

 
Set No: 501  Name: JUMBO Pull Toy
* 
501-3 (Inv) JUMBO Pull Toy
9 Parts, 1966
Sets: Classic: Jumbo Bricks

 
Set No: 042  Name: Jumbo Brick Pull Toy
* 
042-1 (Inv) Jumbo Brick Pull Toy
9 Parts, 1966
Sets: Samsonite: Jumbo Bricks

 
Part No: 3001oldb  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top
* 
3001oldb Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top
Parts: Brick

I would love to see an inventory for x1447c01 in the catalog, but I don't
have the parts to add them.

And we also need a catalog entry for the Duplo pull cart with string and brick.
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This must have been discussed before but I don't remember anything and I
can't find any postings.

Sets 501-3 and 042-1 don't have an inventory list for the vehicle although
you can often find the vehicle bases and occasionally the blue 3001oldb blue
brick seperately.

Was there a reason for not separating these components, I know the string could
pose a problem.

The 3001oldb red is listed.

 
Set No: 501  Name: JUMBO Pull Toy
* 
501-3 (Inv) JUMBO Pull Toy
9 Parts, 1966
Sets: Classic: Jumbo Bricks

 
Set No: 042  Name: Jumbo Brick Pull Toy
* 
042-1 (Inv) Jumbo Brick Pull Toy
9 Parts, 1966
Sets: Samsonite: Jumbo Bricks

 
Part No: 3001oldb  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top
* 
3001oldb Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top
Parts: Brick
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 16:01
 Subject: Re: Collecting the parts catalog
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In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

Do you intent all the parts known to BrickLink? Or all the parts that exist?

E.g. the 3001 brick comes in 3 major differences on BrickLink, but if you count
all the (technical) differences then there are at least 42... so where
to draw the line?

Here you go, 42 different 2 x 4 bricks...
https://www.leggodt.nl/items/lego/parts.php?group=4&withimages=yes&language=en#top

Cheers,
Arnoud


That is one of the lists I started with. There are more than 42...

But I am STILL missing one of those! I can't believe how difficult it is
to find number 31!

https://www.flickr.com/gp/111441268@N03/4Q6N24
 Author: antant7 View Messages Posted By antant7
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 12:12
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

Sometimes if feels like my girlfriend is actively trying to do exactly that!

We get a new lot in, she does the rough sorting and assembly of any interesting
sets she can find, selects what she doesn't already have in the "play lego"
and gives me the leftovers for the shop.

I'm not complaining... I found the trick. I overwhelm her with parts and
I get a constant supply of (mostly vintage) sets and (eventually) enough parts


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 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
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I've never visited, but from reviews I've read and pictures I've
seen this facility does not match the definition of a true LEGO museum in the
way we've been discussing.

That is, it does not display the entire range of LEGO products as pieces and
sets. In fact, from what I've seen in pictures, it doesn't even come
close.

There’s an onlive live tour (part 3 was today)
https://legohouse.com/en-gb/what-s-on/lego-house-live-tours/
Not sure if they will make them available for download sometime.

Anyway, I’d say you’re right on your assesment: it’s not a museum, just a few
toys.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  There is the LEGO HOUSE in Billund that documents the history of both the company
and the product.

I've never visited, but from reviews I've read and pictures I've
seen this facility does not match the definition of a true LEGO museum in the
way we've been discussing.

That is, it does not display the entire range of LEGO products as pieces and
sets. In fact, from what I've seen in pictures, it doesn't even come
close.

There is a historical section which covers the history of the company and the
development of products, from wooden toys (and barns) through to more modern
day products. It is not a one-of-everything type display, more a showcase of
important stages in the development of todays product.
 
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  There is the LEGO HOUSE in Billund that documents the history of both the company
and the product.

I've never visited, but from reviews I've read and pictures I've
seen this facility does not match the definition of a true LEGO museum in the
way we've been discussing.

That is, it does not display the entire range of LEGO products as pieces and
sets. In fact, from what I've seen in pictures, it doesn't even come
close.
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  A LEGO museum would be a fantastic idea. Dedicated to the history of the bricks
with the parts collection being the highlight. Similar places already exist
that highlight specific collections - the National Postal Museum comes immediately
to mind with their collection of stamps. So why not one for LEGO parts?

I would imagine that TLG would have to give its blessing to the project if it
were to succeed.

There is the LEGO HOUSE in Billund that documents the history of both the company
and the product.
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  I would imagine that TLG would have to give its blessing to the project if it
were to succeed.

Not so. It would be nice to have official approval, of course, but a museum
could open and operate just fine without it. It just couldn't advertise
itself as a LEGO museum (which is why the existing museum is called the Toy and
Plastic Brick Museum).
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

Do you intent all the parts known to BrickLink? Or all the parts that exist?

E.g. the 3001 brick comes in 3 major differences on BrickLink, but if you count
all the (technical) differences then there are at least 42... so where
to draw the line?

Here you go, 42 different 2 x 4 bricks...
https://www.leggodt.nl/items/lego/parts.php?group=4&withimages=yes&language=en#top

Cheers,
Arnoud
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A LEGO museum would be a fantastic idea. Dedicated to the history of the bricks
with the parts collection being the highlight. Similar places already exist
that highlight specific collections - the National Postal Museum comes immediately
to mind with their collection of stamps. So why not one for LEGO parts?

I would imagine that TLG would have to give its blessing to the project if it
were to succeed.
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In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  Are there LEGO sets with seperate Parts Lists or Inventory Lists?

The Catalog defines packaging and instructions and other books etc.
I would like to know if there are also parts lists?

Thx,
Arnoud

I mean parts lists on paper, like instructions, that come in the box...
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In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  Yeah, I thought so! But just checking as I am affraid to replace the stickers
and damage them.

The bricks who are not according to the instructions and I remember, are indeed
marked for deletion. How can I put a part as marked for deletion? In this case:
3009pb213

Just submit a catalog request - I have just done this one.

Thanks for spotting it.

  In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  I have one brick 3001oldpb03 with on both sides a LUFTHANSA stickers from set
1560, but according to the instructions the stickers had to be on two bricks
3001oldpb03. Is it possible to submit the one brick as a part only and not submit
it to the inventory of set 1560?

Stickered parts should only be accepted if they are exactly as show in the instructions.
So in this case it would need to be as a special assembly I'm afraid.

In the past they may have been accepted due to stickered assemblies not being
accepted so it was the next best thing at the time.

  I have seen some bricks of sets which were not according to the instructions,
but left in the catalog (of course not in the inventory of the set), like 3009pb213.

It's just not been marked for deletion (yet ) - if you know of any others
let us know

  Please advice!
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Yeah, I thought so! But just checking as I am affraid to replace the stickers
and damage them.

The bricks who are not according to the instructions and I remember, are indeed
marked for deletion. How can I put a part as marked for deletion? In this case:
3009pb213

In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  I have one brick 3001oldpb03 with on both sides a LUFTHANSA stickers from set
1560, but according to the instructions the stickers had to be on two bricks
3001oldpb03. Is it possible to submit the one brick as a part only and not submit
it to the inventory of set 1560?

Stickered parts should only be accepted if they are exactly as show in the instructions.
So in this case it would need to be as a special assembly I'm afraid.

In the past they may have been accepted due to stickered assemblies not being
accepted so it was the next best thing at the time.

  I have seen some bricks of sets which were not according to the instructions,
but left in the catalog (of course not in the inventory of the set), like 3009pb213.

It's just not been marked for deletion (yet ) - if you know of any others
let us know

  Please advice!
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In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  I have one brick 3001oldpb03 with on both sides a LUFTHANSA stickers from set
1560, but according to the instructions the stickers had to be on two bricks
3001oldpb03. Is it possible to submit the one brick as a part only and not submit
it to the inventory of set 1560?

Stickered parts should only be accepted if they are exactly as show in the instructions.
So in this case it would need to be as a special assembly I'm afraid.

In the past they may have been accepted due to stickered assemblies not being
accepted so it was the next best thing at the time.

  I have seen some bricks of sets which were not according to the instructions,
but left in the catalog (of course not in the inventory of the set), like 3009pb213.

It's just not been marked for deletion (yet ) - if you know of any others
let us know

  Please advice!
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I have one brick 3001oldpb03 with on both sides a LUFTHANSA stickers from set
1560, but according to the instructions the stickers had to be on two bricks
3001oldpb03. Is it possible to submit the one brick as a part only and not submit
it to the inventory of set 1560?

I have seen some bricks of sets which were not according to the instructions,
but left in the catalog (of course not in the inventory of the set), like 3009pb213.

Please advice!
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Are there LEGO sets with seperate Parts Lists or Inventory Lists?

The Catalog defines packaging and instructions and other books etc.
I would like to know if there are also parts lists?

Thx,
Arnoud
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
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Anyway, all that would required to make a museum happen is a group of organizers
and some charitable donations.

A bit like for the eradication of diseases like malaria or tuberculosis, or to
end of world hunger, or to attain global world peace…
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Obviously a LONG term project to be sure.

Not really a long-term project, just one that someone would have to throw some
$$ at (it would be a permanently ongoing project, of course). Basically what
you're describing is the need for a LEGO museum.

I've wanted for a very long time (at least 10 years) to see this happen:
a place where you could visit and see and interact with all the LEGO items in
the BrickLink catalog (sets, parts, gear, etc.). I think about it whenever someone
posts in the forum bragging about destroying a sealed set from 1980, for example,
just to part out the contents.

It is certainly possible to make this happen and it could be set up as a 501(c)(3)
nonprofit. There is only one LEGO museum in the U.S. (the PBM) and its focus
is not on this area. Even Billund does not have a true LEGO museum of all LEGO
items, at least not that I'm aware (the vault doesn't really count).

Anyway, all that would required to make a museum happen is a group of organizers
and some charitable donations.
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Such a collection would be an invaluable tool for the hobby, to be sure. While
1 person probably couldn't do it, dozens of people could.

Just an idea - Bricklink recruits members to collect a category (or several,
or part of one - I'm looking at you printed minifig torsos) to house the
"official" parts collection. How to implement such a undertaking, I haven't
a clue.

But imagine the sight and interest it would draw if the entire collection could
be shown at LEGO conventions/shows!

Obviously a LONG term project to be sure.

Bill
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

I'm trying, I've spent almost €20.000 so far But only got 13.000 lots
so far. And I have duplicates as I distinguish new and used parts

This store is getting close: https://store.bricklink.com/GermanParts?p=GermanParts&sortBy=1&breakType=M#/terms
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In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  […]
That shows the PCC list is far from complete and includes many duplicates (variants
not distinguished by Bricklink).

The easier answer finally came to me: it can be derived from the colors page
(https://www.bricklink.com/catalogColors.asp) by summing the appropriate column.
The 60.734 parts come in 81.263 color combinations in sets, as known on
Bricklink.

Guh, it’s obvious now you say it


  To be complete, the relevant summed columns are:
Known Parts: 81.263 unique part color combinations
On Wanted Lists: 182.281 unique part color combinations (so a great lot of wishful
thinking, hoping these parts will one day come available)
For Sale: 90.881 unique part color combinations (so a lot of factory escapes
or listing errors)

The 81.263 is including the patterned bricks, including variants, but excluding
parts that are not known to exist in sets.

And including composites. Like wheel + tyre or torso + arms + hands.
So it’s still both including too many parts and not enough.

But I believe we can say the real number is between 32,000 (number of PCCs for
parts without a “p” or “c” in their IDs) and 91,000 (parts for sale).


The only way to go further would be first to correctly clean out the p## parts
(we can’t remove them all as some of them are not really “decorated,” like dual-mould
ones) and the c## parts (some of them not being inventoried), and then look into
the parts in sets and the parts for sale/sold (and hope there are not many listing
errors). And then there might still be a few very rare, not in sets, not for
sale, not recently sold parts out there.


  This last category includes all the
Modulex bricks as there seem to be no set inventories for these. Why is that?

Don’t know. How were the Modulex distributed?
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  […]
I tend to think that - disregarding decorated parts - personally I have 'nearly
every part in most colors' but in truth, it is only a meager 2.407 of 14.969
unique parts or if I do count the colors separately, a 10.894 of who knows how
many part color combinations.

As of a few minutes ago, there were 52,433 PCC for parts in the catalogue.

But 17,695 have a “p” in their ID. That generally means they are decorated but
some are just multicoloured.

And 10,916 have a “c” in their ID. So they are composites and their composing
parts may already be counted, or not.
(Some cXX parts have no subparts, some subparts may not have PCCs, and you might
want to count the subparts and the composite or only the composite or only the
subparts….)

And some (~8600) have a “c” AND a “p” in their ID, but I didn’t dig deeper into
the IDs.

Plus, there a few doublets, e.g. parts from parts packs share a PCC.

And that doesn’t say how many parts exists but have no PCC in the catalogue.
I’d guess mostly parts not in a set or in older sets but there may still be
many thousands of them.

So, er, well, yeah, who knows how many part colour combinations?


That shows the PCC list is far from complete and includes many duplicates (variants
not distinguished by Bricklink).

The easier answer finally came to me: it can be derived from the colors page
(https://www.bricklink.com/catalogColors.asp) by summing the appropriate column.
The 60.734 parts come in 81.263 color combinations in sets, as known on
Bricklink.
To be complete, the relevant summed columns are:
Known Parts: 81.263 unique part color combinations
On Wanted Lists: 182.281 unique part color combinations (so a great lot of wishful
thinking, hoping these parts will one day come available)
For Sale: 90.881 unique part color combinations (so a lot of factory escapes
or listing errors)

The 81.263 is including the patterned bricks, including variants, but excluding
parts that are not known to exist in sets. This last category includes all the
Modulex bricks as there seem to be no set inventories for these. Why is that?
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In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  […]
I tend to think that - disregarding decorated parts - personally I have 'nearly
every part in most colors' but in truth, it is only a meager 2.407 of 14.969
unique parts or if I do count the colors separately, a 10.894 of who knows how
many part color combinations.

As of a few minutes ago, there were 52,433 PCC for parts in the catalogue.

But 17,695 have a “p” in their ID. That generally means they are decorated but
some are just multicoloured.

And 10,916 have a “c” in their ID. So they are composites and their composing
parts may already be counted, or not.
(Some cXX parts have no subparts, some subparts may not have PCCs, and you might
want to count the subparts and the composite or only the composite or only the
subparts….)

And some (~8600) have a “c” AND a “p” in their ID, but I didn’t dig deeper into
the IDs.

Plus, there a few doublets, e.g. parts from parts packs share a PCC.

And that doesn’t say how many parts exists but have no PCC in the catalogue.
I’d guess mostly parts not in a set or in older sets but there may still be
many thousands of them.

So, er, well, yeah, who knows how many part colour combinations?


   But then again, I don't actually buy just to
collect the catalog. That is secondary to buying for building.
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

With over 60.000 parts in the catalog (14.969 without pattern, https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?q=-pattern&catType=P),
it is a challenge indeed. Some shops come a long way:

https://www.bricklink.com/storeResults.asp?sMM=7&sDD=7&sYY=2020&itemSeq=1&breakType=M&sortBy=1&q=&itemType=P®ionID=-1

(But you can't really trust the numbers if they have duplicate lots)

I tend to think that - disregarding decorated parts - personally I have 'nearly
every part in most colors' but in truth, it is only a meager 2.407 of 14.969
unique parts or if I do count the colors separately, a 10.894 of who knows how
many part color combinations. But then again, I don't actually buy just to
collect the catalog. That is secondary to buying for building.
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

Do you mean including printed parts and printed minifigure parts? As then it
becomes almost a collection of all minifigures too. I think they look better
as minifigures rather than parts.

But there are certainly collectors of individual parts in many colours. Personally,
I like 1x2 plates and tiles.

I have almost all the decorated 2x4 bricks. That is challenging enough.

Collecting the catalog would be Awesome, but I don't have the time and money
to even make a serious attempt.
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

Do you mean including printed parts and printed minifigure parts? As then it
becomes almost a collection of all minifigures too. I think they look better
as minifigures rather than parts.

But there are certainly collectors of individual parts in many colours. Personally,
I like 1x2 plates and tiles.
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

It would be a never-ending and very expensive hobby, that's for sure!
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Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill
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In Catalog, BulbaNerd4000 writes:
  I noticed that the Cars 3 cars are classified as minifigures. The older ones
for 1 and 2 in 2011 are built in pretty much the same way, but are not minifigs.
How does this make any sense? Should we put the older cars as figs or make
a new listing for the complete car under parts (kind of like how a full dinosaur
goes under parts) so people can find the individual cars easier? Just a thought

Please see this message:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1200979

Yes, the Cars items do need to be addressed.
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I noticed that the Cars 3 cars are classified as minifigures. The older ones
for 1 and 2 in 2011 are built in pretty much the same way, but are not minifigs.
How does this make any sense? Should we put the older cars as figs or make
a new listing for the complete car under parts (kind of like how a full dinosaur
goes under parts) so people can find the individual cars easier? Just a thought

Stay safe!
-BulbaNerd4000
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Also there are slopes which have a smooth variation which are not in the catalog,
like 3045. Besides that, where is the end? I could easely point out slopes with
'very rough' surface or allmost smooth. But I think a note should be
added for each slope with variation, because building sets from the 70's
with smooth slopes is not very nice. With a note a buyer can allways ask the
seller for a variation.

In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  [P=30474]
[P=3048b]
[P=3046b]
[P=3037b]
[P=3684b]

We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

Please share your thoughts.
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, howdyhamster writes:
  In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
  
  We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

Please share your thoughts.

I have my doubts if these actually exist, and if they do, that they are identified
correctly in current inventories. I have only ever seen one slope with a smooth
and shiny sloping surface, I believe it was a printed 2x2x2 slope used in a minifig.
All other slopes I've seen (thousands) either have old rough or modern smooth
texture. Some think that the change to texture is caused by worn molds. I believe
it was a design change by the company so that the sloping sides were better fit
for putting (and keeping) stickers on. Stickers on slopes have been used much
more in the later years than in the old days.

/Jan

The McDonald's 30474 slopes I have are definitely smooth with a printed pattern
over the smooth surface.
[P=30474pb03]

Yes, there is a whole set of those with very nice photos on BrickLink that show
the smoothness of the surface. But the question would be, does it make a difference
when buying and selling the parts in this set to have "smooth" in the item name,
or use a different root part number than the standard part?
 
Part No: 3298  Name: Slope 33 3 x 2
* 
3298 Slope 33 3 x 2
Parts: Slope

I believe you when you say the surface is smooth, but have you found any of these
McDonald's slopes that had a rough surface?

You are correct that I haven't seen a rough one. Having recently organized
my collection, I would actually prefer for the catalog to be simplified a bit,
as some of the part differences were IMO pretty nitpicky. Was just pointing out
that those smooth parts exist.
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In Catalog, howdyhamster writes:
  In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
  
  We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

Please share your thoughts.

I have my doubts if these actually exist, and if they do, that they are identified
correctly in current inventories. I have only ever seen one slope with a smooth
and shiny sloping surface, I believe it was a printed 2x2x2 slope used in a minifig.
All other slopes I've seen (thousands) either have old rough or modern smooth
texture. Some think that the change to texture is caused by worn molds. I believe
it was a design change by the company so that the sloping sides were better fit
for putting (and keeping) stickers on. Stickers on slopes have been used much
more in the later years than in the old days.

/Jan

The McDonald's 30474 slopes I have are definitely smooth with a printed pattern
over the smooth surface.
[P=30474pb03]

Yes, there is a whole set of those with very nice photos on BrickLink that show
the smoothness of the surface. But the question would be, does it make a difference
when buying and selling the parts in this set to have "smooth" in the item name,
or use a different root part number than the standard part?
 
Part No: 3298  Name: Slope 33 3 x 2
* 
3298 Slope 33 3 x 2
Parts: Slope

I believe you when you say the surface is smooth, but have you found any of these
McDonald's slopes that had a rough surface?
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In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Adjour writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Adjour writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Are sprues like the one from
[p=x8] in the catalog?
If yes: how to find?
If no: why not?

The sprue is just a piece that held this part, it has no other function outside
of that.

https://youtu.be/PjZHVRKSjyc?t=76

and i've seen people use non-LEGO pieces in LEGO construction, should we
add those in too ?

Straw man.



People sometimes want the sprues to "complete" boxed sets. I see no reason not
to have a listing.

yeah well if the sprue ain't attached to the item it is no good when the
item still on the sprue can be bought, so your argument is pointless.

You are pleasant aren't you?

Lets start over. Hi, I don't agree with you. Respectfully.

I'm not saying I care about sprues, I don't. But people out there clearly
do so I should be considered.


Crystal

yes they care about using them by themselves in MoC's just like there were
other sprues I used in MoC's like the ones for the gold coins, but like I
said this was already tried before to get that sprue into the catalog and it
was denied. when you are on this site long enough you see many suggestions come
and go and come and go and come and go. the best suggestion given at that time
for selling them was putting them into an unsorted type lot. but that was it.

Again, no skin in this game, was just making conversation. I'm always surprised
how seriously some of this catalog stuff is taken by people.


I know I personally would just sell them on ebay if it was a big deal to me.
I usually try to work within existing frameworks rather than change them, just
my personality. I understand that others are different


Crystal
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In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
  
  We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

Please share your thoughts.

I have my doubts if these actually exist, and if they do, that they are identified
correctly in current inventories. I have only ever seen one slope with a smooth
and shiny sloping surface, I believe it was a printed 2x2x2 slope used in a minifig.
All other slopes I've seen (thousands) either have old rough or modern smooth
texture. Some think that the change to texture is caused by worn molds. I believe
it was a design change by the company so that the sloping sides were better fit
for putting (and keeping) stickers on. Stickers on slopes have been used much
more in the later years than in the old days.

/Jan

The McDonald's 30474 slopes I have are definitely smooth with a printed pattern
over the smooth surface.
[P=30474pb03]
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In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
  
  I have my doubts if these actually exist, and if they do, that they are identified
correctly in current inventories. I have only ever seen one slope with a smooth
and shiny sloping surface, I believe it was a printed 2x2x2 slope used in a minifig.
All other slopes I've seen (thousands) either have old rough or modern smooth
texture. Some think that the change to texture is caused by worn molds. I believe
it was a design change by the company so that the sloping sides were better fit
for putting (and keeping) stickers on. Stickers on slopes have been used much
more in the later years than in the old days.

In fact, the slope in question is
 
Part No: 3678ap01  Name: Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 without Bottom Tube with Minifigure Dress / Skirt / Robe, Dark Gray and Red Witch Pattern
* 
3678ap01 Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 without Bottom Tube with Minifigure Dress / Skirt / Robe, Dark Gray and Red Witch Pattern
Parts: Slope, Decorated
. I just checked it again. It's
smooth and shiny. No sign of texture at all.

And of course, as someone else wrote: This slope without print also exists in
a smooth version (or it always comes as smooth, I'm not sure about that).
It was used for Trans-Clear windscreens on some old vehicles.

/Jan
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  I have my doubts if these actually exist, and if they do, that they are identified
correctly in current inventories. I have only ever seen one slope with a smooth
and shiny sloping surface, I believe it was a printed 2x2x2 slope used in a minifig.
All other slopes I've seen (thousands) either have old rough or modern smooth
texture. Some think that the change to texture is caused by worn molds. I believe
it was a design change by the company so that the sloping sides were better fit
for putting (and keeping) stickers on. Stickers on slopes have been used much
more in the later years than in the old days.

In fact, the slope in question is
 
Part No: 3678ap01  Name: Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 without Bottom Tube with Minifigure Dress / Skirt / Robe, Dark Gray and Red Witch Pattern
* 
3678ap01 Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 without Bottom Tube with Minifigure Dress / Skirt / Robe, Dark Gray and Red Witch Pattern
Parts: Slope, Decorated
. I just checked it again. It's
smooth and shiny. No sign of texture at all.

/Jan
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  We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

Please share your thoughts.

I have my doubts if these actually exist, and if they do, that they are identified
correctly in current inventories. I have only ever seen one slope with a smooth
and shiny sloping surface, I believe it was a printed 2x2x2 slope used in a minifig.
All other slopes I've seen (thousands) either have old rough or modern smooth
texture. Some think that the change to texture is caused by worn molds. I believe
it was a design change by the company so that the sloping sides were better fit
for putting (and keeping) stickers on. Stickers on slopes have been used much
more in the later years than in the old days.

/Jan
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I vote yes

In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  [P=30474]
[P=3048b]
[P=3046b]
[P=3037b]
[P=3684b]

We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

Please share your thoughts.

Yes, please get rid of the entries for smooth slopes. They're the only entries
in the catalog that I heartily dislike, so much so that I've actually ranted
to my partner about how ridiculous it is to have the entries in the system (she
rolled her eyes and ignored me, but that's beside the point).

I'm launching a huge store in a few months (500,000 used parts), and I'm
fully separating every mold difference that Bricklink lists, plus a bunch that
aren't listed. I like to be precise. It's almost a compulsion. But despite
my desire to do that wherever possible, I decided a few months back that I wouldn't
list "smooth slopes" regardless of the entries for them, since I believe they
don't belong in the catalog. So eliminating those entries would be quite
nice for my desire for completeness and accuracy
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Thanks so much! Found them!!


In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
  They are listed under gear, then games.




In Catalog, BellaFux writes:
  Hello,

not sure if this is the correct forum, but I would like to know how I can list
my LEgo board games for sale.

3856 Ninjago Board Game
3841 Minotaurus Board Game
3843 Ramses Pyramid Board Game

I cant find the catalog entries so i cant upload them. Is there some trick?
All these nummers are also assigned to some single lego parts.

thx for any help,
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In Catalog, BellaFux writes:
  Hello,

not sure if this is the correct forum, but I would like to know how I can list
my LEgo board games for sale.

3856 Ninjago Board Game
3841 Minotaurus Board Game
3843 Ramses Pyramid Board Game

I cant find the catalog entries so i cant upload them. Is there some trick?
All these nummers are also assigned to some single lego parts.

thx for any help,
Bellafux

[G=G3856]
[G=G3841]
[G=3843]
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They are listed under gear, then games.




In Catalog, BellaFux writes:
  Hello,

not sure if this is the correct forum, but I would like to know how I can list
my LEgo board games for sale.

3856 Ninjago Board Game
3841 Minotaurus Board Game
3843 Ramses Pyramid Board Game

I cant find the catalog entries so i cant upload them. Is there some trick?
All these nummers are also assigned to some single lego parts.

thx for any help,
Bellafux
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Hello,

not sure if this is the correct forum, but I would like to know how I can list
my LEgo board games for sale.

3856 Ninjago Board Game
3841 Minotaurus Board Game
3843 Ramses Pyramid Board Game

I cant find the catalog entries so i cant upload them. Is there some trick?
All these nummers are also assigned to some single lego parts.

thx for any help,
Bellafux
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In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Thank you for all the responses so far. It seems we are all in agreement, which
is quite nice.

In Catalog, edk writes:
  The 2x2x2 does have an actual
smooth variation that I think should stay in the catalog.

Which specific part are you referring to here?

That must be
 
Part No: 3678a  Name: Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 without Bottom Tube
* 
3678a Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 without Bottom Tube
Parts: Slope
versus
 
Part No: 3678b  Name: Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 with Bottom Tube
* 
3678b Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 with Bottom Tube
Parts: Slope
That's the only slope I can think of that is as smooth as a windscreen.

There might be smooth slopes around for the purpose of better applying stickers.

As for removing variants: I'd rather see Bricklink evolve towards a better
system of dealing with this, like I and many others have suggested so many times.
But still, the distinction between smooth and textured slope surfaces has never
seen true to me anyway.

That's the one
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In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  That must be
 
Part No: 3678a  Name: Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 without Bottom Tube
* 
3678a Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 without Bottom Tube
Parts: Slope
versus
 
Part No: 3678b  Name: Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 with Bottom Tube
* 
3678b Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 with Bottom Tube
Parts: Slope
That's the only slope I can think of that is as smooth as a windscreen.

This part would not be affected anyway because it has a variant difference other
than the slope texture. However, the title of 3678a may be changed.

  As for removing variants: I'd rather see Bricklink evolve towards a better
system of dealing with this, like I and many others have suggested so many times.

I am pushing hard for this. I believe a change in site programming in this area
would be significantly beneficial.
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I thought the 2x2 concave came in a true smooth some years ago.

In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Thank you for all the responses so far. It seems we are all in agreement, which
is quite nice.

In Catalog, edk writes:
  The 2x2x2 does have an actual
smooth variation that I think should stay in the catalog.

Which specific part are you referring to here?
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  [P=30474]
[P=3048b]
[P=3046b]
[P=3037b]
[P=3684b]

We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

Please share your thoughts.

Yes please eliminate them. TLG has over the years had so many molding forms for
the different slopes all with different texture on the slope side ranging from
totally smooth to very ruff. It's a PITA with all these differences and it's
almost always a guess when you have a slope in your hands whether it is smooth
or not.

/Asger
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Thank you for all the responses so far. It seems we are all in agreement, which
is quite nice.

In Catalog, edk writes:
  The 2x2x2 does have an actual
smooth variation that I think should stay in the catalog.

Which specific part are you referring to here?

That must be
 
Part No: 3678a  Name: Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 without Bottom Tube
* 
3678a Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 without Bottom Tube
Parts: Slope
versus
 
Part No: 3678b  Name: Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 with Bottom Tube
* 
3678b Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 with Bottom Tube
Parts: Slope
That's the only slope I can think of that is as smooth as a windscreen.

There might be smooth slopes around for the purpose of better applying stickers.

As for removing variants: I'd rather see Bricklink evolve towards a better
system of dealing with this, like I and many others have suggested so many times.
But still, the distinction between smooth and textured slope surfaces has never
seen true to me anyway.
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Thank you for all the responses so far. It seems we are all in agreement, which
is quite nice.

In Catalog, edk writes:
  The 2x2x2 does have an actual
smooth variation that I think should stay in the catalog.

Which specific part are you referring to here?
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  [P=30474]
[P=3048b]
[P=3046b]
[P=3037b]
[P=3684b]

We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

Please share your thoughts.

I think that is a good idea since they just vary in texture due to die polishing
over time. A note stating such would be a good idea. The 2x2x2 does have an actual
smooth variation that I think should stay in the catalog.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  [P=30474]
[P=3048b]
[P=3046b]
[P=3037b]
[P=3684b]

We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

Please share your thoughts.

I have often wondered why these slopes have separate entries for smooth parts.
I would say some have a rougher surface than others (and in general modern parts
tend to be less rough than parts from the 1980s or 1990s), but I have never
seen a part that is really smooth like
 
Part No: 54200  Name: Slope 30 1 x 1 x 2/3
* 
54200 Slope 30 1 x 1 x 2/3
Parts: Slope
or
 
Part No: 85984  Name: Slope 30 1 x 2 x 2/3
* 
85984 Slope 30 1 x 2 x 2/3
Parts: Slope
is.

I definitely like the idea to delete the "smooth" entries.
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I would say yes eliminate them.
What I've seen is a different texture because of worn injection molds.

In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  [P=30474]
[P=3048b]
[P=3046b]
[P=3037b]
[P=3684b]

We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

Please share your thoughts.
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Not sure I've ever seen any that I would truly call smooth, not saying they
don't exist but it won't bother me if they are all under one listing.



In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  [P=30474]
[P=3048b]
[P=3046b]
[P=3037b]
[P=3684b]

We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

Please share your thoughts.
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It's a yes from me, can be tricky to list at times.

In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  [P=30474]
[P=3048b]
[P=3046b]
[P=3037b]
[P=3684b]

We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

Please share your thoughts.
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[P=30474]
[P=3048b]
[P=3046b]
[P=3037b]
[P=3684b]

We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

Please share your thoughts.
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  These cables were manufactured for the 9751 and RCX and their components. However,
in addition to the color of the pieces (yellow, black, blue) and their length
(11, 15, etc.) there are two different materials in the composition of the cable
jacket. One that looks like rubber and that eventually wears off ... and another
that looks like plastic, shiny and that won't spoil. When we buy a cable
we never know if it is one that will be degraded (even if it is sold as new,
it breaks when first used) or it is made of plastic. I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

I found an unmistakable way to differentiate cables ... and they are LEGO originals.
The rubber ones do not have the recycling symbol on the contact plate, at the
bottom, (no dull cables), the others have ... I send pictures of two sets of
cable pairs with different sizes of boxes with different dates that I bought
new ones from 9794, one was even sealed in the Lego cardboard box with a red
symbol on the outside. Notice the ones on the left are the ones with plastic
covers (brighter) and have on both contact parts, at the bottom, the recycling
symbol. The ones on the right are made of rubber and do not have this symbol.
Look in your sets if it is or not ... I appreciate your confirmation.

I repeated your experiment. I separated the 3 I have that seemed like glossy
plastic from the 4 I have that are rubber and then looked at the bottoms. The
glossy plastic ones have that X-ed out symbol. I just noticed this the other
day when I combined some from different sets. It didn't strike me as important
and now I can't tell you what set had what. This is all just concerning
my 20L cables. I have cables of other sizes that I can look at tomorrow.

thanks...

One more thing, "the Part x1676 Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm"
is made with plastic cable and have the symbol of the recycling too... at the
bottom of the plate and in the piece of converter.year 2006.

and more.. "Set 9794-2 (Inv) ROBOLAB Team Challenge Set USB (2005 Version)" that
i have, all the eletric pieces, motor 43362, sensor of light (with cable of
plastic) and touch sensor... all have the symbol of recycling (no trash bin)
at the bottom. Only the RCx doesn't have.

Well if you can attest to that, then I may be able to trace my rubber ones.
Some of mine definitely came from 9794-2.

Well, I cannot trace my rubber ones because I've had quite a few of these
from different sets and I have sold a lot of them in the last 6 months. But
having them in 9794-2 (2005) is a good hint. Most of my pieces like this came
from late 2003 RoboLab expansion sets.
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In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  These cables were manufactured for the 9751 and RCX and their components. However,
in addition to the color of the pieces (yellow, black, blue) and their length
(11, 15, etc.) there are two different materials in the composition of the cable
jacket. One that looks like rubber and that eventually wears off ... and another
that looks like plastic, shiny and that won't spoil. When we buy a cable
we never know if it is one that will be degraded (even if it is sold as new,
it breaks when first used) or it is made of plastic. I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

I found an unmistakable way to differentiate cables ... and they are LEGO originals.
The rubber ones do not have the recycling symbol on the contact plate, at the
bottom, (no dull cables), the others have ... I send pictures of two sets of
cable pairs with different sizes of boxes with different dates that I bought
new ones from 9794, one was even sealed in the Lego cardboard box with a red
symbol on the outside. Notice the ones on the left are the ones with plastic
covers (brighter) and have on both contact parts, at the bottom, the recycling
symbol. The ones on the right are made of rubber and do not have this symbol.
Look in your sets if it is or not ... I appreciate your confirmation.

I repeated your experiment. I separated the 3 I have that seemed like glossy
plastic from the 4 I have that are rubber and then looked at the bottoms. The
glossy plastic ones have that X-ed out symbol. I just noticed this the other
day when I combined some from different sets. It didn't strike me as important
and now I can't tell you what set had what. This is all just concerning
my 20L cables. I have cables of other sizes that I can look at tomorrow.

thanks...

One more thing, "the Part x1676 Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm"
is made with plastic cable and have the symbol of the recycling too... at the
bottom of the plate and in the piece of converter.year 2006.

and more.. "Set 9794-2 (Inv) ROBOLAB Team Challenge Set USB (2005 Version)" that
i have, all the eletric pieces, motor 43362, sensor of light (with cable of
plastic) and touch sensor... all have the symbol of recycling (no trash bin)
at the bottom. Only the RCx doesn't have.

Well if you can attest to that, then I may be able to trace my rubber ones.
Some of mine definitely came from 9794-2.
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In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  These cables were manufactured for the 9751 and RCX and their components. However,
in addition to the color of the pieces (yellow, black, blue) and their length
(11, 15, etc.) there are two different materials in the composition of the cable
jacket. One that looks like rubber and that eventually wears off ... and another
that looks like plastic, shiny and that won't spoil. When we buy a cable
we never know if it is one that will be degraded (even if it is sold as new,
it breaks when first used) or it is made of plastic. I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

I found an unmistakable way to differentiate cables ... and they are LEGO originals.
The rubber ones do not have the recycling symbol on the contact plate, at the
bottom, (no dull cables), the others have ... I send pictures of two sets of
cable pairs with different sizes of boxes with different dates that I bought
new ones from 9794, one was even sealed in the Lego cardboard box with a red
symbol on the outside. Notice the ones on the left are the ones with plastic
covers (brighter) and have on both contact parts, at the bottom, the recycling
symbol. The ones on the right are made of rubber and do not have this symbol.
Look in your sets if it is or not ... I appreciate your confirmation.

I repeated your experiment. I separated the 3 I have that seemed like glossy
plastic from the 4 I have that are rubber and then looked at the bottoms. The
glossy plastic ones have that X-ed out symbol. I just noticed this the other
day when I combined some from different sets. It didn't strike me as important
and now I can't tell you what set had what. This is all just concerning
my 20L cables. I have cables of other sizes that I can look at tomorrow.

thanks...

One more thing, "the Part x1676 Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm"
is made with plastic cable and have the symbol of the recycling too... at the
bottom of the plate and in the piece of converter.year 2006.

and more.. "Set 9794-2 (Inv) ROBOLAB Team Challenge Set USB (2005 Version)" that
i have, all the eletric pieces, motor 43362, sensor of light (with cable of
plastic) and touch sensor... all have the symbol of recycling (no trash bin)
at the bottom. Only the RCx doesn't have.
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In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  These cables were manufactured for the 9751 and RCX and their components. However,
in addition to the color of the pieces (yellow, black, blue) and their length
(11, 15, etc.) there are two different materials in the composition of the cable
jacket. One that looks like rubber and that eventually wears off ... and another
that looks like plastic, shiny and that won't spoil. When we buy a cable
we never know if it is one that will be degraded (even if it is sold as new,
it breaks when first used) or it is made of plastic. I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

I found an unmistakable way to differentiate cables ... and they are LEGO originals.
The rubber ones do not have the recycling symbol on the contact plate, at the
bottom, (no dull cables), the others have ... I send pictures of two sets of
cable pairs with different sizes of boxes with different dates that I bought
new ones from 9794, one was even sealed in the Lego cardboard box with a red
symbol on the outside. Notice the ones on the left are the ones with plastic
covers (brighter) and have on both contact parts, at the bottom, the recycling
symbol. The ones on the right are made of rubber and do not have this symbol.
Look in your sets if it is or not ... I appreciate your confirmation.

I repeated your experiment. I separated the 3 I have that seemed like glossy
plastic from the 4 I have that are rubber and then looked at the bottoms. The
glossy plastic ones have that X-ed out symbol. I just noticed this the other
day when I combined some from different sets. It didn't strike me as important
and now I can't tell you what set had what. This is all just concerning
my 20L cables. I have cables of other sizes that I can look at tomorrow.

thanks...

One more thing, "the Part x1676 Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm"
is made with plastic cable and have the symbol of the recycling too... at the
bottom of the plate and in the piece of converter.year 2006.
 


 Author: Rick_S. View Messages Posted By Rick_S.
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Adjour writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Adjour writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Are sprues like the one from
[p=x8] in the catalog?
If yes: how to find?
If no: why not?

The sprue is just a piece that held this part, it has no other function outside
of that.

https://youtu.be/PjZHVRKSjyc?t=76

and i've seen people use non-LEGO pieces in LEGO construction, should we
add those in too ?

Straw man.



People sometimes want the sprues to "complete" boxed sets. I see no reason not
to have a listing.

yeah well if the sprue ain't attached to the item it is no good when the
item still on the sprue can be bought, so your argument is pointless.

You are pleasant aren't you?

Lets start over. Hi, I don't agree with you. Respectfully.

I'm not saying I care about sprues, I don't. But people out there clearly
do so I should be considered.


Crystal

yes they care about using them by themselves in MoC's just like there were
other sprues I used in MoC's like the ones for the gold coins, but like I
said this was already tried before to get that sprue into the catalog and it
was denied. when you are on this site long enough you see many suggestions come
and go and come and go and come and go. the best suggestion given at that time
for selling them was putting them into an unsorted type lot. but that was it.

A lot of things have changed because of the current admin team, and a lot of
other things are going be changing because of the current admin team. If the
community wanted them in the catalog bad enough, I believe we would find a way
to make it work.

and that is where the problem lies, like last time (that is still the rule if
enough of the community wants it it gets done) there is just not enough support
here for it. in fact last time the thread about it got a whole lot bigger then
this thread in like a day, now, nobody really cares. and the support for and
against is just very minimal at best.
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In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Adjour writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Adjour writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Are sprues like the one from
[p=x8] in the catalog?
If yes: how to find?
If no: why not?

The sprue is just a piece that held this part, it has no other function outside
of that.

https://youtu.be/PjZHVRKSjyc?t=76

and i've seen people use non-LEGO pieces in LEGO construction, should we
add those in too ?

Straw man.



People sometimes want the sprues to "complete" boxed sets. I see no reason not
to have a listing.

yeah well if the sprue ain't attached to the item it is no good when the
item still on the sprue can be bought, so your argument is pointless.

You are pleasant aren't you?

Lets start over. Hi, I don't agree with you. Respectfully.

I'm not saying I care about sprues, I don't. But people out there clearly
do so I should be considered.


Crystal

yes they care about using them by themselves in MoC's just like there were
other sprues I used in MoC's like the ones for the gold coins, but like I
said this was already tried before to get that sprue into the catalog and it
was denied. when you are on this site long enough you see many suggestions come
and go and come and go and come and go. the best suggestion given at that time
for selling them was putting them into an unsorted type lot. but that was it.

A lot of things have changed because of the current admin team, and a lot of
other things are going be changing because of the current admin team. If the
community wanted them in the catalog bad enough, I believe we would find a way
to make it work.
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In Catalog, Adjour writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Adjour writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Are sprues like the one from
[p=x8] in the catalog?
If yes: how to find?
If no: why not?

The sprue is just a piece that held this part, it has no other function outside
of that.

https://youtu.be/PjZHVRKSjyc?t=76

and i've seen people use non-LEGO pieces in LEGO construction, should we
add those in too ?

Straw man.



People sometimes want the sprues to "complete" boxed sets. I see no reason not
to have a listing.

yeah well if the sprue ain't attached to the item it is no good when the
item still on the sprue can be bought, so your argument is pointless.

You are pleasant aren't you?

Lets start over. Hi, I don't agree with you. Respectfully.

I'm not saying I care about sprues, I don't. But people out there clearly
do so I should be considered.


Crystal

yes they care about using them by themselves in MoC's just like there were
other sprues I used in MoC's like the ones for the gold coins, but like I
said this was already tried before to get that sprue into the catalog and it
was denied. when you are on this site long enough you see many suggestions come
and go and come and go and come and go. the best suggestion given at that time
for selling them was putting them into an unsorted type lot. but that was it.
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In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Adjour writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Are sprues like the one from
[p=x8] in the catalog?
If yes: how to find?
If no: why not?

The sprue is just a piece that held this part, it has no other function outside
of that.

https://youtu.be/PjZHVRKSjyc?t=76

and i've seen people use non-LEGO pieces in LEGO construction, should we
add those in too ?

Straw man.



People sometimes want the sprues to "complete" boxed sets. I see no reason not
to have a listing.

yeah well if the sprue ain't attached to the item it is no good when the
item still on the sprue can be bought, so your argument is pointless.

You are pleasant aren't you?

Lets start over. Hi, I don't agree with you. Respectfully.

I'm not saying I care about sprues, I don't. But people out there clearly
do so I should be considered.


Crystal
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In Catalog, Adjour writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Are sprues like the one from
[p=x8] in the catalog?
If yes: how to find?
If no: why not?

The sprue is just a piece that held this part, it has no other function outside
of that.

https://youtu.be/PjZHVRKSjyc?t=76

and i've seen people use non-LEGO pieces in LEGO construction, should we
add those in too ?

Straw man.



People sometimes want the sprues to "complete" boxed sets. I see no reason not
to have a listing.

yeah well if the sprue ain't attached to the item it is no good when the
item still on the sprue can be bought, so your argument is pointless.
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In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Are sprues like the one from
[p=x8] in the catalog?
If yes: how to find?
If no: why not?

The sprue is just a piece that held this part, it has no other function outside
of that.

https://youtu.be/PjZHVRKSjyc?t=76

and i've seen people use non-LEGO pieces in LEGO construction, should we
add those in too ?

Straw man.



People sometimes want the sprues to "complete" boxed sets. I see no reason not
to have a listing.
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  These cables were manufactured for the 9751 and RCX and their components. However,
in addition to the color of the pieces (yellow, black, blue) and their length
(11, 15, etc.) there are two different materials in the composition of the cable
jacket. One that looks like rubber and that eventually wears off ... and another
that looks like plastic, shiny and that won't spoil. When we buy a cable
we never know if it is one that will be degraded (even if it is sold as new,
it breaks when first used) or it is made of plastic. I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

I found an unmistakable way to differentiate cables ... and they are LEGO originals.
The rubber ones do not have the recycling symbol on the contact plate, at the
bottom, (no dull cables), the others have ... I send pictures of two sets of
cable pairs with different sizes of boxes with different dates that I bought
new ones from 9794, one was even sealed in the Lego cardboard box with a red
symbol on the outside. Notice the ones on the left are the ones with plastic
covers (brighter) and have on both contact parts, at the bottom, the recycling
symbol. The ones on the right are made of rubber and do not have this symbol.
Look in your sets if it is or not ... I appreciate your confirmation.

I repeated your experiment. I separated the 3 I have that seemed like glossy
plastic from the 4 I have that are rubber and then looked at the bottoms. The
glossy plastic ones have that X-ed out symbol. I just noticed this the other
day when I combined some from different sets. It didn't strike me as important
and now I can't tell you what set had what. This is all just concerning
my 20L cables. I have cables of other sizes that I can look at tomorrow.

thanks...
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In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  These cables were manufactured for the 9751 and RCX and their components. However,
in addition to the color of the pieces (yellow, black, blue) and their length
(11, 15, etc.) there are two different materials in the composition of the cable
jacket. One that looks like rubber and that eventually wears off ... and another
that looks like plastic, shiny and that won't spoil. When we buy a cable
we never know if it is one that will be degraded (even if it is sold as new,
it breaks when first used) or it is made of plastic. I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

I found an unmistakable way to differentiate cables ... and they are LEGO originals.
The rubber ones do not have the recycling symbol on the contact plate, at the
bottom, (no dull cables), the others have ... I send pictures of two sets of
cable pairs with different sizes of boxes with different dates that I bought
new ones from 9794, one was even sealed in the Lego cardboard box with a red
symbol on the outside. Notice the ones on the left are the ones with plastic
covers (brighter) and have on both contact parts, at the bottom, the recycling
symbol. The ones on the right are made of rubber and do not have this symbol.
Look in your sets if it is or not ... I appreciate your confirmation.

I repeated your experiment. I separated the 3 I have that seemed like glossy
plastic from the 4 I have that are rubber and then looked at the bottoms. The
glossy plastic ones have that X-ed out symbol. I just noticed this the other
day when I combined some from different sets. It didn't strike me as important
and now I can't tell you what set had what. This is all just concerning
my 20L cables. I have cables of other sizes that I can look at tomorrow.
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In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  These cables were manufactured for the 9751 and RCX and their components. However,
in addition to the color of the pieces (yellow, black, blue) and their length
(11, 15, etc.) there are two different materials in the composition of the cable
jacket. One that looks like rubber and that eventually wears off ... and another
that looks like plastic, shiny and that won't spoil. When we buy a cable
we never know if it is one that will be degraded (even if it is sold as new,
it breaks when first used) or it is made of plastic. I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

I found an unmistakable way to differentiate cables ... and they are LEGO originals.
The rubber ones do not have the recycling symbol on the contact plate, at the
bottom, (no dull cables), the others have ... I send pictures of two sets of
cable pairs with different sizes of boxes with different dates that I bought
new ones from 9794, one was even sealed in the Lego cardboard box with a red
symbol on the outside. Notice the ones on the left are the ones with plastic
covers (brighter) and have on both contact parts, at the bottom, the recycling
symbol. The ones on the right are made of rubber and do not have this symbol.
Look in your sets if it is or not ... I appreciate your confirmation.
 






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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

The likelihood of adding new variants at this time is low. However, if you'll
provide a list of the specific cables that come with differing wire sheaths we
can provide additional notes and add them to our unsplit variants list.

It may be helpful to also upload comparison photos for the affected catalog entries.

I believe I have both in 20L. Taken from sealed sets.
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In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  These cables were manufactured for the 9751 and RCX and their components. However,
in addition to the color of the pieces (yellow, black, blue) and their length
(11, 15, etc.) there are two different materials in the composition of the cable
jacket. One that looks like rubber and that eventually wears off ... and another
that looks like plastic, shiny and that won't spoil. When we buy a cable
we never know if it is one that will be degraded (even if it is sold as new,
it breaks when first used) or it is made of plastic. I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

I have only ever seen the rubber jack version from LEGO. All of the other material
types came from second hand sources where someone else replaced the wire themselves.

If you take pictures of the ends, you can tell that they were opened to replace
the wire.

-Tom
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

The likelihood of adding new variants at this time is low. However, if you'll
provide a list of the specific cables that come with differing wire sheaths we
can provide additional notes and add them to our unsplit variants list.

It may be helpful to also upload comparison photos for the affected catalog entries.

I understand...
I will see if there is any way to distinguish them unambiguously
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Ahh, didn't know that!

Thanx

Ole

In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:

  The listings for sale in the column view are only updated once per day. What
you are seeing are yesterday's listings. Wait until 8:00 AM your time tomorrow
and you will see it disappear.
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In Catalog, 1974 writes:
  There is a 375 listed in trans-yellow, but when I click that lot there are none
for sale?

Hmm

Ole

The listings for sale in the column view are only updated once per day. What
you are seeing are yesterday's listings. Wait until 8:00 AM your time tomorrow
and you will see it disappear.
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In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

The likelihood of adding new variants at this time is low. However, if you'll
provide a list of the specific cables that come with differing wire sheaths we
can provide additional notes and add them to our unsplit variants list.

It may be helpful to also upload comparison photos for the affected catalog entries.
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These cables were manufactured for the 9751 and RCX and their components. However,
in addition to the color of the pieces (yellow, black, blue) and their length
(11, 15, etc.) there are two different materials in the composition of the cable
jacket. One that looks like rubber and that eventually wears off ... and another
that looks like plastic, shiny and that won't spoil. When we buy a cable
we never know if it is one that will be degraded (even if it is sold as new,
it breaks when first used) or it is made of plastic. I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?
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Sorry! 3755

In Catalog, jennnifer writes:

  375?
 
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In Catalog, 1974 writes:
  There is a 375 listed in trans-yellow, but when I click that lot there are none
for sale?

Hmm

Ole

375?
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1974 (744)

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There is a 375 listed in trans-yellow, but when I click that lot there are none
for sale?

Hmm

Ole
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  This is not a comprehensive list. As always, it would be most helpful if BrickLink
included an easy way to see these.

Agree! I was searching the other day to figure out what parts are new in 2020,
but failed to find it. Thanks for posting this!
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  New color
Transparent Brown Opal
https://brickset.com/parts/colour-Transparent-Brown-Opal

and another from opal series
Transparent Violet Opal
https://brickset.com/parts/colour-Transparent-Violet-Opal
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  https://www.bricklink.com/catalogRelCat.asp?relID=25

Nice!

I see that the definitions page was update with the description of this new category,
but it is not currently listed on the main catalog relationship page.

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogRel.asp

-Tom
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  https://www.bricklink.com/catalogRelCat.asp?relID=25

Nifty! Not often we get new catalog stuff.

Jen
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  https://www.bricklink.com/catalogRelCat.asp?relID=25

Very nice.
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In Catalog, superchicken77 writes:
  This is an interesting topic. One one hand I'm reading that people want
the catalog to be accurate. However, nobody has considered what most people (not
BL experts) will identify that part as or how they will search for it.

In coral colour, I would be searching for coral. In dark turquoise, I would
be searching for seaweed. As it stands now, I wouldn't find that part in
coral. Perhaps an extended description or additional tag to include coral?

Yes, an extended description would do the trick.

And just to add to the discussion...

The part in question is currently used in 11 sets. Of those 11 sets, the official
set descriptions refer to the part in the following ways:

30370-1 - {no description}
41250-1 - {no reference}
41337-1 - {no reference}
41375-1 - "coral element"
41378-1 - "coral and sea creature elements"
41380-1 - "sea creature and coral elements"
41381-1 - "underwater coral scene" and "coral and sea creature elements"
41430-1 - {no reference}
43176-1 - {no reference}
60264-1 - "coral-covered seabed setting"
60265-1 - "coral-covered ocean"

I think it is pretty obvious from these descriptions that "coral" should be part
of the name even if LEGO doesn't know that coral is not a plant.
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In Catalog, Miro78 writes:

  
I save my sprues from this plant element. I have used them here and there, but
not in great quantity. If I was still selling parts, I would have sold them.


I have saved all my sprues and pins, etc. and if they are added to the catalog
one day, I would be happy to list them for sale.

Jen
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Are sprues like the one from
[p=x8] in the catalog?
If yes: how to find?
If no: why not?

The sprue is just a piece that held this part, it has no other function outside
of that.

https://youtu.be/PjZHVRKSjyc?t=76

and i've seen people use non-LEGO pieces in LEGO construction, should we
add those in too ?
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  
  Cups can be reused as their intended purpose, a “conduit” as you put it, Miro.
A sprue can not. But that doesn't preclude the sprue from being repurposed
and resold.


Yeah, I don't think a cup and a sprue are analogous, as the sprue is a leftover
that cannot be re-used for the intended purpose. They are more like the leftovers
of a sticker sheet once the sticker(s) have been removed or cape and string
boxes that have been opened and had the parts removed. They can occasionally
be used (especially if you want a thin mirror sticker for a MOC, for example)
but are unlikely to get added to the catalogue. I haven't seen a good use
for old cape boxes, aside from storing capes or string in them.

+1
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  I guess we have to wait for the catalogue admins to chime in when they are awake

We, or at least I, have been reading everything posted. So far have not seen
a need to chime in unless there are specific questions you need answered.

As for parts on sprues or the sprues themselves, you'll see that there are
no guidelines whatsoever on adding or subtracting them:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71

Like many other things, it's just left to the whim of the person deciding.
We plan to have that page updated within the next six months.
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In Catalog, Gmid writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Are sprues like the one from
[p=x8] in the catalog?
If yes: how to find?
If no: why not?

I would have been interested in buying them when I first discovered their use
in MOCs. I had to buy new leaves instead, in the hope they would include the
sprues.

This might be one of those cases where it would be good to make an exception
and include it in the catalogue. You could try to add it and see what the catmins
think of it. Whether the sprue alone stands a chance, I don't think so, but
the 'leaves on sprue' part has precedents in the flowers, coins and keys.

They are indeed used in MOC's, just like the pins that hold together RC Rails
or the sprue that holds the Harry Potter wands.
[p=36752c01]

The latter one is a popular 'part' in MOC's after New Elementary
published an excellent in-depth article about it: https://www.newelementary.com/2018/08/how-to-use-lego-harry-potter-wand-sprue.html#more

You can see that this part has System connections. So while it is not a part
that you can buy in the LEGO bricks shop, it is somehow a LEGO thing that people
want to buy (and sell).

I do agree there is some sort of inconsistency here. We do have a bunch of sprue-like
parts with no official usage in the library though:

 
Part No: bb0219  Name: Train, Track Plastic (RC Trains) Connection/Stacking Pin for Track Storage
* 
bb0219 Train, Track Plastic (RC Trains) Connection/Stacking Pin for Track Storage
Parts: Train, Track {Dark Bluish Gray}

 
Part No: 41752  Name: Rubber Band / Belt Holder 2 x 4 x 2 1/3
* 
41752 Rubber Band / Belt Holder 2 x 4 x 2 1/3
Parts: Rubber Band & Belt {Dark Bluish Gray}

Both of these are randomly used in MOCs.

And then we have a whole bunch of items listed 'on sprue', flowers, above
wands, infinity stones, etc etc. But the sprue itself is not listed. Appears
that if there are multiple items on a sprue, it is listed as such, but if there
is a single item on a sprue, the sprue is ignored. But some of these sprues might
be very useful for some builds: [p=30112c01,47], [p=6176c01,44].

Thanks for your analysis, good work!

I guess we have to wait for the catalogue admins to chime in when they are awake
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  And then we have a whole bunch of items listed 'on sprue', flowers, above
wands, infinity stones, etc etc. But the sprue itself is not listed. Appears
that if there are multiple items on a sprue, it is listed as such, but if there
is a single item on a sprue, the sprue is ignored. But some of these sprues might
be very useful for some builds: [p=30112c01,47], [p=6176c01,44].

The sprue for this single part is in the images, just not in the main one. I
guess this is so that we do not need to have two entries - one for the part and
one for the part on the sprue. At least for the multi-part sprues, it makes sense
to have separate entries. Of course, it would be nice if you didn't have
to ask the seller if the plant has its sprue or not but I'm not sure it warrants
two entries for essentially the same part. That said, of course, there are "sets"
that contain a single part and they get entries as both the set and the part,
so two different entries and price guides.
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Are sprues like the one from
[p=x8] in the catalog?
If yes: how to find?
If no: why not?

I would have been interested in buying them when I first discovered their use
in MOCs. I had to buy new leaves instead, in the hope they would include the
sprues.

This might be one of those cases where it would be good to make an exception
and include it in the catalogue. You could try to add it and see what the catmins
think of it. Whether the sprue alone stands a chance, I don't think so, but
the 'leaves on sprue' part has precedents in the flowers, coins and keys.

They are indeed used in MOC's, just like the pins that hold together RC Rails
or the sprue that holds the Harry Potter wands.
[p=36752c01]

The latter one is a popular 'part' in MOC's after New Elementary
published an excellent in-depth article about it: https://www.newelementary.com/2018/08/how-to-use-lego-harry-potter-wand-sprue.html#more

You can see that this part has System connections. So while it is not a part
that you can buy in the LEGO bricks shop, it is somehow a LEGO thing that people
want to buy (and sell).

See also here:

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=227725

As I noted back then, the throwing star ones have "anti-stud" connections on
the underneath. You can use them on a neck bracket to look like mini airtanks.
 
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Are sprues like the one from
[p=x8] in the catalog?
If yes: how to find?
If no: why not?

I would have been interested in buying them when I first discovered their use
in MOCs. I had to buy new leaves instead, in the hope they would include the
sprues.

This might be one of those cases where it would be good to make an exception
and include it in the catalogue. You could try to add it and see what the catmins
think of it. Whether the sprue alone stands a chance, I don't think so, but
the 'leaves on sprue' part has precedents in the flowers, coins and keys.

They are indeed used in MOC's, just like the pins that hold together RC Rails
or the sprue that holds the Harry Potter wands.
[p=36752c01]

The latter one is a popular 'part' in MOC's after New Elementary
published an excellent in-depth article about it: https://www.newelementary.com/2018/08/how-to-use-lego-harry-potter-wand-sprue.html#more

You can see that this part has System connections. So while it is not a part
that you can buy in the LEGO bricks shop, it is somehow a LEGO thing that people
want to buy (and sell).

I do agree there is some sort of inconsistency here. We do have a bunch of sprue-like
parts with no official usage in the library though:

 
Part No: bb0219  Name: Train, Track Plastic (RC Trains) Connection/Stacking Pin for Track Storage
* 
bb0219 Train, Track Plastic (RC Trains) Connection/Stacking Pin for Track Storage
Parts: Train, Track {Dark Bluish Gray}

 
Part No: 41752  Name: Rubber Band / Belt Holder 2 x 4 x 2 1/3
* 
41752 Rubber Band / Belt Holder 2 x 4 x 2 1/3
Parts: Rubber Band & Belt {Dark Bluish Gray}

Both of these are randomly used in MOCs.

And then we have a whole bunch of items listed 'on sprue', flowers, above
wands, infinity stones, etc etc. But the sprue itself is not listed. Appears
that if there are multiple items on a sprue, it is listed as such, but if there
is a single item on a sprue, the sprue is ignored. But some of these sprues might
be very useful for some builds: [p=30112c01,47], [p=6176c01,44].
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  Cups can be reused as their intended purpose, a “conduit” as you put it, Miro.
A sprue can not. But that doesn't preclude the sprue from being repurposed
and resold.


Yeah, I don't think a cup and a sprue are analogous, as the sprue is a leftover
that cannot be re-used for the intended purpose. They are more like the leftovers
of a sticker sheet once the sticker(s) have been removed or cape and string
boxes that have been opened and had the parts removed. They can occasionally
be used (especially if you want a thin mirror sticker for a MOC, for example)
but are unlikely to get added to the catalogue. I haven't seen a good use
for old cape boxes, aside from storing capes or string in them.

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