Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | Admin_Russell  | | Posted: | Jun 25, 2020 20:13 | | Subject: | Re: Hinge brick assemblies with 2x2 top? | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | | | As far as I know they are not assemblies because they came separate in the sets.
I have separated hundreds/thousands without causing any damage.
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I believe that assemblies are not only made for pre-assembled parts in sets.
Example:
* |  | 2878c02 (Inv) Train Wheel RC, Holder with 2 Black Train Wheel RC Train and Chrome Silver Train Wheel RC Train, Metal Axle (2878 / 57878 / x1687)
Parts: Wheel |
This part is even easier to disassemble than the hinges, and have no risk of
inducing stress marks.
/Jan
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All wheel assemblies are automatically approved if they are assembled as such
in the instructions.
For the larger hinges, that may present a problem. I would not put any work into
photos, etc unless you know for sure we are going to take them. If I had to make
a decision now, I would say no, but with more time we might come up with a good
reason for them.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jun 25, 2020 18:51 | | Subject: | Re: Hinge brick assemblies with 2x2 top? | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | So, does this silence mean that if I start creating these assemblies, will they
be accepted or rejected?
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There are no guidelines at the moment for part assemblies, just as there are
no guidelines for part variants. If you're asking for suggestions, I would
suggest waiting until we have updated guidelines in place before submitting these
parts as assemblies.
Our goal is to have the guidelines fully updated by the end of the year. As
of this moment we have 18 out of 27 updated and only have 9 left to complete.
All of that work has occurred since February, 2020.
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jun 25, 2020 18:00 | | Subject: | Re: Hinge brick assemblies with 2x2 top? | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | I believe that assemblies are not only made for pre-assembled parts in sets.
Example:
* | | 2878c02 (Inv) Train Wheel RC, Holder with 2 Black Train Wheel RC Train and Chrome Silver Train Wheel RC Train, Metal Axle (2878 / 57878 / x1687)
Parts: Wheel |
This part is even easier to disassemble than the hinges, and have no risk of
inducing stress marks.
/Jan
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So, does this silence mean that if I start creating these assemblies, will they
be accepted or rejected?
/Jan
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jun 25, 2020 14:52 | | Subject: | Re: Decorated Statuettes..... | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
| | In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | Ok, so this might open a can of worms, but is there a reason why some statuettes
are minifigures and others are minifig, untensil, decorated?? Or is it just
up to whatever the person who adds it feels like doing?
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My sense is that if they were supposed to be a small minifig then it was added
as such and if it was used as an actual statue/toy then it was added as a utensil.
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Yep.
| |  Astronaut guy doesn't seem to follow the pattern.
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I tried to have this fixed almost three years ago and was rejected by the catalog
admins at that time without even an explanation.
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=226017&nID=1055785
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You are exceptionally polite in your persistence. 
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Hence the reason why I communicate with users about every Inventory Change Request
I do not approve. Users deserve that respect.
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| Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Jun 25, 2020 14:45 | | Subject: | Re: Decorated Statuettes..... | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
| | In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | Ok, so this might open a can of worms, but is there a reason why some statuettes
are minifigures and others are minifig, untensil, decorated?? Or is it just
up to whatever the person who adds it feels like doing?
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My sense is that if they were supposed to be a small minifig then it was added
as such and if it was used as an actual statue/toy then it was added as a utensil.
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Yep.
| | Astronaut guy doesn't seem to follow the pattern.
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I tried to have this fixed almost three years ago and was rejected by the catalog
admins at that time without even an explanation.
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=226017&nID=1055785
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You are exceptionally polite in your persistence.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jun 25, 2020 14:30 | | Subject: | Re: Decorated Statuettes..... | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | is there a reason why some statuettes are minifigures and others are minifig, untensil, decorated?
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The intention of the recent update to this page:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=170
was to clarify situations like this. Take a look and see if it does.
If it doesn't, then please offer suggestions on improving the standards so
that it is clear where individual statuettes should go.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jun 25, 2020 14:23 | | Subject: | Re: Decorated Statuettes..... | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
| | In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | Ok, so this might open a can of worms, but is there a reason why some statuettes
are minifigures and others are minifig, untensil, decorated?? Or is it just
up to whatever the person who adds it feels like doing?
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My sense is that if they were supposed to be a small minifig then it was added
as such and if it was used as an actual statue/toy then it was added as a utensil.
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Yep.
| | Astronaut guy doesn't seem to follow the pattern.
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I tried to have this fixed almost three years ago and was rejected by the catalog
admins at that time without even an explanation.
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=226017&nID=1055785
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| Author: | Rick_S. | | Posted: | Jun 25, 2020 14:21 | | Subject: | Re: Darth Vader Head Mold Variance | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, M.Boss writes:
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When comparing two Darth Vader figures I had, I discovered a mold variance between
two helmets. The "old" type came likey was made from 1999-2014, while The "new"
type appeared in the 2019 20th Anniversary Clone Scout Walker I think
this new mold was created because in order to create the anniversary figure lego
wanted to use a 1 piece Vader helmet, as opposed to the 2 piece helmets they
switched to a couple of years ago. This mold variation deserves a note in the
catalog entry for the helmet,, or a variant added to the catalog, but I'm
not sure which. If someone wants to take the appropriate action from here, please
go ahead. See the attached image for the differences between the two.
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think one on right is a chinese knock off.
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Jun 25, 2020 14:16 | | Subject: | Re: Darth Vader Head Mold Variance | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Turez writes:
| | In Catalog, M.Boss writes:
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When comparing two Darth Vader figures I had, I discovered a mold variance between
two helmets. The "old" type came likey was made from 1999-2014, while The "new"
type appeared in the 2019 20th Anniversary Clone Scout Walker I think
this new mold was created because in order to create the anniversary figure lego
wanted to use a 1 piece Vader helmet, as opposed to the 2 piece helmets they
switched to a couple of years ago. This mold variation deserves a note in the
catalog entry for the helmet,, or a variant added to the catalog, but I'm
not sure which. If someone wants to take the appropriate action from here, please
go ahead. See the attached image for the differences between the two.
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I have an original helmet from 1999 and it is fur sure the left variant, so that's
definitly not a new mold. I would also say that most if not all images here show
the left variant:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=30368&in=M
And regarding the reintroduction of the old helmet in set 75261, the designers
said that the old mold was still available:
https://www.brothers-brick.com/2019/04/09/interview-with-lego-star-wars-designers-jens-kronvold-and-kurt-kristiansen-feature/
So I am wondering: Where did you find the right variant and are you sure it is
a genuine LEGO part?
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I agree with Jonas.
Your "old" mold on right is suspicious. I just take a look on my Vaders from
different years and in all I have left helmet with narrow nose so your "new"
mold. And there is only one diffrence between oldest and newer Vader halmets
from this mold (later on this).
For this post I just took 4 representants from different years.
1) First one is
years 1999-2003
My minfigure on images is from 2002 set.
2) Second one is
years 2009-2016
My minfigure on images is from 2011 set.
3) Third one is
this ony came onluy in 2014 advent calendar.
4) fourth one
the newest one from 2019 anniversary set.
and as you can see all of them have identical narrow nose just like "new one"
from your photo.
The only change is that somwhere in timeline LEGO started to add molded number
on this helmet and LEGO logo. Oldest ones don't have mold number and LEGO
logo. It is visible on images. But with mold number this helmet was already in
2014 advent calendar set and this helmet is identical with 2019 helmet.
btw LEGO has for this part only one mold number and one PCC
https://brickset.com/parts/design-30368
I also check that in this Vader from 2013
helmet is also already with mold number on it. (and it is of course identical
with 2019 one). I couldn't track for now when LEGO have started to molding
part number on this helmet. But beside this only difference oldest helmet without
part number are identical with newer ones with part number.
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| Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Jun 25, 2020 14:02 | | Subject: | Re: Decorated Statuettes..... | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | Ok, so this might open a can of worms, but is there a reason why some statuettes
are minifigures and others are minifig, untensil, decorated?? Or is it just
up to whatever the person who adds it feels like doing?
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My sense is that if they were supposed to be a small minifig then it was added
as such and if it was used as an actual statue/toy then it was added as a utensil.
Astronaut guy doesn't seem to follow the pattern.
Jen
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| Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | Jun 25, 2020 13:52 | | Subject: | Decorated Statuettes..... | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Ok, so this might open a can of worms, but is there a reason why some statuettes
are minifigures and others are minifig, untensil, decorated?? Or is it just
up to whatever the person who adds it feels like doing?
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jun 25, 2020 10:13 | | Subject: | Re: Change Notification: Parts 4623 and 88072 | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| This solution looks like what I suggested.
I'm glad these changes will be made, and I look forward to see how the inventories
for my old 80's sets will look in the future.
/Jan
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| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Jun 25, 2020 03:24 | | Subject: | Re: Darth Vader Head Mold Variance | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, M.Boss writes:
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When comparing two Darth Vader figures I had, I discovered a mold variance between
two helmets. The "old" type came likey was made from 1999-2014, while The "new"
type appeared in the 2019 20th Anniversary Clone Scout Walker I think
this new mold was created because in order to create the anniversary figure lego
wanted to use a 1 piece Vader helmet, as opposed to the 2 piece helmets they
switched to a couple of years ago. This mold variation deserves a note in the
catalog entry for the helmet,, or a variant added to the catalog, but I'm
not sure which. If someone wants to take the appropriate action from here, please
go ahead. See the attached image for the differences between the two.
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I have an original helmet from 1999 and it is fur sure the left variant, so that's
definitly not a new mold. I would also say that most if not all images here show
the left variant:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=30368&in=M
And regarding the reintroduction of the old helmet in set 75261, the designers
said that the old mold was still available:
https://www.brothers-brick.com/2019/04/09/interview-with-lego-star-wars-designers-jens-kronvold-and-kurt-kristiansen-feature/
So I am wondering: Where did you find the right variant and are you sure it is
a genuine LEGO part?
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| Author: | jbroman | | Posted: | Jun 24, 2020 23:50 | | Subject: | Re: How are stud measurements translated? | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| This is what I got after I sent in a dimensions change for the robot body part:
| | Do I have to put in a change for all three variants?
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No, the dimensions changes wouldn't be accepted for any of them because this
part has non-standard dimensions.
| | The reason I put the dimensions in for this one was that I had a sale and the dimensions made it want to go as a package instead of meeting the dimensions of our lettermail. I guess I’ll have to change the dimensions for my own inventory.
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I'm sorry that our dimensions are so confusing. We will be working on improving
them this year. I'll try to explain how packaging dimensions work. There
is a hidden field for each catalog entry that contains packaging dimensions and
these are used to calculate instant checkout.
The stud-size dimensions you see (2 x 2 x 2, in this case) are not used for packaging
dimensions. And stud-size dimensions themselves are in a mess. There are 28,000+
parts missing stud-size dimensions altogether.
But that's another issue. If you need packaging dimensions updated, these
are handled by a site administrator out in California and not by catalog associates
like myself. To get packaging dimensions added or corrected, please post in
the discussion forum using the Packaging Dimensions topic.
If you have any questions about any of this, please let us know. And again,
I apologize for the confusing way we do things right now.
I still haven't sent in the packaging dimensions to the site admin.
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| Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Jun 24, 2020 22:19 | | Subject: | Re: How are stud measurements translated? | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Crafteewon writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, Crafteewon writes:
| | Hello
I got a quote request from a customer saying that the shipping was too high.
When I looked at the order it looks like the below piece is the issue.
I have shipped this part before with no issues as lettermail.
With Canada post anything thicker than 2cm must be sent as parcel which is much
more expensive.
I am trying to understand how bricklink takes the 2x2x2 and translates that to
shipping dimensions in centimetres or inches.
Also can someone help me to understand how this can be 2x2x2 when one side is
longer than it is wide.
Is one of the measurements stacked bricks?
Thanks for any help
Edward
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https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=261
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Thank you this helps, but it doesn’t address how bricklink uses this information
as it relates to packaging limits.
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BrickLink keeps a separate database for packaging dimensions not related to the
format of our catalog data. The new database was derived from a mishmash of sources
but is now updated by members posting in a certain thread here in the Forum.
You can only view the dimensions entered for the parts in your shop on the My
Inventory pages.
Hope that helps,
Jen
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| Author: | M.Boss | | Posted: | Jun 24, 2020 21:36 | | Subject: | Re: Darth Vader Head Mold Variance | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, starbeanie writes:
| | I think it's a pretty big change and worth a new entry.
In Catalog, M.Boss writes:
| | In Catalog, M.Boss writes:
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When comparing two Darth Vader figures I had, I discovered a mold variance between
two helmets. The "old" type came likey was made from 1999-2014, while The "new"
type appeared in the 2019 20th Anniversary Clone Scout Walker I think
this new mold was created because in order to create the anniversary figure lego
wanted to use a 1 piece Vader helmet, as opposed to the 2 piece helmets they
switched to a couple of years ago. This mold variation deserves a note in the
catalog entry for the helmet,, or a variant added to the catalog, but I'm
not sure which. If someone wants to take the appropriate action from here, please
go ahead. See the attached image for the differences between the two.
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Anyone? Does this mold change necessitate an amendment to the Bricklink Catalog?
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It appears it has just been made as an additional note.
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| Author: | starbeanie | | Posted: | Jun 24, 2020 20:45 | | Subject: | Re: Darth Vader Head Mold Variance | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| I think it's a pretty big change and worth a new entry.
In Catalog, M.Boss writes:
| | In Catalog, M.Boss writes:
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When comparing two Darth Vader figures I had, I discovered a mold variance between
two helmets. The "old" type came likey was made from 1999-2014, while The "new"
type appeared in the 2019 20th Anniversary Clone Scout Walker I think
this new mold was created because in order to create the anniversary figure lego
wanted to use a 1 piece Vader helmet, as opposed to the 2 piece helmets they
switched to a couple of years ago. This mold variation deserves a note in the
catalog entry for the helmet,, or a variant added to the catalog, but I'm
not sure which. If someone wants to take the appropriate action from here, please
go ahead. See the attached image for the differences between the two.
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Anyone? Does this mold change necessitate an amendment to the Bricklink Catalog?
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| Author: | Crafteewon | | Posted: | Jun 24, 2020 20:38 | | Subject: | Re: How are stud measurements translated? | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, Crafteewon writes:
| | Hello
I got a quote request from a customer saying that the shipping was too high.
When I looked at the order it looks like the below piece is the issue.
I have shipped this part before with no issues as lettermail.
With Canada post anything thicker than 2cm must be sent as parcel which is much
more expensive.
I am trying to understand how bricklink takes the 2x2x2 and translates that to
shipping dimensions in centimetres or inches.
Also can someone help me to understand how this can be 2x2x2 when one side is
longer than it is wide.
Is one of the measurements stacked bricks?
Thanks for any help
Edward
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https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=261
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Thank you this helps, but it doesn’t address how bricklink uses this information
as it relates to packaging limits.
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| Author: | M.Boss | | Posted: | Jun 24, 2020 20:23 | | Subject: | Re: Darth Vader Head Mold Variance | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, M.Boss writes:
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When comparing two Darth Vader figures I had, I discovered a mold variance between
two helmets. The "old" type came likey was made from 1999-2014, while The "new"
type appeared in the 2019 20th Anniversary Clone Scout Walker I think
this new mold was created because in order to create the anniversary figure lego
wanted to use a 1 piece Vader helmet, as opposed to the 2 piece helmets they
switched to a couple of years ago. This mold variation deserves a note in the
catalog entry for the helmet,, or a variant added to the catalog, but I'm
not sure which. If someone wants to take the appropriate action from here, please
go ahead. See the attached image for the differences between the two.
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Anyone? Does this mold change necessitate an amendment to the Bricklink Catalog?
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Jun 24, 2020 18:49 | | Subject: | Re: How are stud measurements translated? | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Crafteewon writes:
| | Hello
I got a quote request from a customer saying that the shipping was too high.
When I looked at the order it looks like the below piece is the issue.
I have shipped this part before with no issues as lettermail.
With Canada post anything thicker than 2cm must be sent as parcel which is much
more expensive.
I am trying to understand how bricklink takes the 2x2x2 and translates that to
shipping dimensions in centimetres or inches.
Also can someone help me to understand how this can be 2x2x2 when one side is
longer than it is wide.
Is one of the measurements stacked bricks?
Thanks for any help
Edward
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https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=261
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 24, 2020 18:14 | | Subject: | Re: How are stud measurements translated? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Crafteewon writes:
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Also can someone help me to understand how this can be 2x2x2 when one side is
longer than it is wide.
Is one of the measurements stacked bricks?
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Yes. It’s not stud x stud x stud, it’s stud x stud x brick.
A longstanding issue that could be simply solved by a few words changed….
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| Author: | Crafteewon | | Posted: | Jun 24, 2020 17:59 | | Subject: | How are stud measurements translated? | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Hello
I got a quote request from a customer saying that the shipping was too high.
When I looked at the order it looks like the below piece is the issue.
I have shipped this part before with no issues as lettermail.
With Canada post anything thicker than 2cm must be sent as parcel which is much
more expensive.
I am trying to understand how bricklink takes the 2x2x2 and translates that to
shipping dimensions in centimetres or inches.
Also can someone help me to understand how this can be 2x2x2 when one side is
longer than it is wide.
Is one of the measurements stacked bricks?
Thanks for any help
Edward
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jun 24, 2020 16:55 | | Subject: | Re: Change Notification: Parts 4623 and 88072 | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | All four changes are planned to occur between the hours of 8 AM and 4 PM CST
on July 8th, 2020.
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The date listed above is a typographical error.
It should read July 18th, 2020.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jun 24, 2020 16:10 | | Subject: | Re: Change Notification: Parts 4623 and 88072 | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | I don't understand why there is a 2 week waiting period.
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This is to give members time to prepare for and potentially object to any of
the planned changes.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jun 24, 2020 14:52 | | Subject: | Re: Change Notification: Parts 4623 and 88072 | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | NOTIFICATION OF CHANGES TO PARTS 4623 AND 88072
[P=88072]
Members have recently identified two problems with these part variant entries:
1. The additional notes need to be updated.
2. Part 4623 comes in both 5 MM and 6 MM horizontal arm length versions.
A member has submitted a request for us to take action.
What changes will happen?
1. The title of Part 4623 currently in parentheses will be changed to
read "Undetermined Arm Length," but the part will not immediately be marked for
deletion.
2. A new catalog entry will be created with the part number 4623a and
the title "Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Arm Up (Horizontal Arm Length 6mm)."
3. Part 88072 has 4623b as an alternate item number. The primary number
(88072) and alternate item number (4623b) will be switched for this part.
4. The additional notes for all three entries will be updated for brevity
and ease of comprehension.
When will these changes occur?
All four changes are planned to occur between the hours of 8 AM and 4 PM CST
on July 8th, 2020.
Why are these changes necessary?
The changes are necessary because Part 4623 comes in both 5 MM and 6 MM horizontal
arm lengths. The catalog does not currently recognize this fact and some inventories
include incorrect part variants.
How will these changes affect BrickLink members?
Sellers should move their for-sale listings from the undetermined entry to either
4623a or 4623b as soon as reasonably possible after the July 8th changes. Members
who object to one or more changes should immediately provide input with clear
reasons for their objections.
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I don't understand why there is a 2 week waiting period.
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| Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jun 24, 2020 14:44 | | Subject: | Re: Change Notification: Parts 4623 and 88072 | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Thanks, changes and dates noted.
In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | NOTIFICATION OF CHANGES TO PARTS 4623 AND 88072
[P=88072]
Members have recently identified two problems with these part variant entries:
1. The additional notes need to be updated.
2. Part 4623 comes in both 5 MM and 6 MM horizontal arm length versions.
A member has submitted a request for us to take action.
What changes will happen?
1. The title of Part 4623 currently in parentheses will be changed to
read "Undetermined Arm Length," but the part will not immediately be marked for
deletion.
2. A new catalog entry will be created with the part number 4623a and
the title "Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Arm Up (Horizontal Arm Length 6mm)."
3. Part 88072 has 4623b as an alternate item number. The primary number
(88072) and alternate item number (4623b) will be switched for this part.
4. The additional notes for all three entries will be updated for brevity
and ease of comprehension.
When will these changes occur?
All four changes are planned to occur between the hours of 8 AM and 4 PM CST
on July 8th, 2020.
Why are these changes necessary?
The changes are necessary because Part 4623 comes in both 5 MM and 6 MM horizontal
arm lengths. The catalog does not currently recognize this fact and some inventories
include incorrect part variants.
How will these changes affect BrickLink members?
Sellers should move their for-sale listings from the undetermined entry to either
4623a or 4623b as soon as reasonably possible after the July 8th changes. Members
who object to one or more changes should immediately provide input with clear
reasons for their objections.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jun 24, 2020 14:30 | | Subject: | Change Notification: Parts 4623 and 88072 | | Viewed: | 138 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| NOTIFICATION OF CHANGES TO PARTS 4623 AND 88072
[P=88072]
Members have recently identified two problems with these part variant entries:
1. The additional notes need to be updated.
2. Part 4623 comes in both 5 MM and 6 MM horizontal arm length versions.
A member has submitted a request for us to take action.
What changes will happen?
1. The title of Part 4623 currently in parentheses will be changed to
read "Undetermined Arm Length," but the part will not immediately be marked for
deletion.
2. A new catalog entry will be created with the part number 4623a and
the title "Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Arm Up (Horizontal Arm Length 6mm)."
3. Part 88072 has 4623b as an alternate item number. The primary number
(88072) and alternate item number (4623b) will be switched for this part.
4. The additional notes for all three entries will be updated for brevity
and ease of comprehension.
When will these changes occur?
All four changes are planned to occur between the hours of 8 AM and 4 PM CST
on July 8th, 2020.
Why are these changes necessary?
The changes are necessary because Part 4623 comes in both 5 MM and 6 MM horizontal
arm lengths. The catalog does not currently recognize this fact and some inventories
include incorrect part variants.
How will these changes affect BrickLink members?
Sellers should move their for-sale listings from the undetermined entry to either
4623a or 4623b as soon as reasonably possible after the July 8th changes. Members
who object to one or more changes should immediately provide input with clear
reasons for their objections.
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| Author: | M.Boss | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2020 22:06 | | Subject: | Darth Vader Head Mold Variance | | Viewed: | 123 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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When comparing two Darth Vader figures I had, I discovered a mold variance between
two helmets. The "old" type came likey was made from 1999-2014, while The "new"
type appeared in the 2019 20th Anniversary Clone Scout Walker I think
this new mold was created because in order to create the anniversary figure lego
wanted to use a 1 piece Vader helmet, as opposed to the 2 piece helmets they
switched to a couple of years ago. This mold variation deserves a note in the
catalog entry for the helmet,, or a variant added to the catalog, but I'm
not sure which. If someone wants to take the appropriate action from here, please
go ahead. See the attached image for the differences between the two.
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| Author: | TheBrickGuys | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2020 16:41 | | Subject: | Re: bricklink lego piece not found | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Crafteewon writes:
| | In Catalog, foxbricks2009 writes:
| | what if i have a piece that i know is lego but i can't find it in the catalog.
could we have a feature for adding your own piece? or should i just make a custom
item?
i have this 2x8 apple bush piece i can't find.
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Not Bad, 2 Minutes!
Jim
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| Author: | Fox_Brickr | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2020 15:42 | | Subject: | Re: bricklink lego piece not found | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Cob writes:
| | In Catalog, Crafteewon writes:
| | In Catalog, foxbricks2009 writes:
| | what if i have a piece that i know is lego but i can't find it in the catalog.
could we have a feature for adding your own piece? or should i just make a custom
item?
i have this 2x8 apple bush piece i can't find.
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BrickLink search is very specific.
In this situation apple is incorrect, you must search for either apple* or apples
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oh,i looked up apple and not apples, thank you!
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| Author: | Cob | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2020 15:39 | | Subject: | Re: bricklink lego piece not found | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Crafteewon writes:
| | In Catalog, foxbricks2009 writes:
| | what if i have a piece that i know is lego but i can't find it in the catalog.
could we have a feature for adding your own piece? or should i just make a custom
item?
i have this 2x8 apple bush piece i can't find.
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BrickLink search is very specific.
In this situation apple is incorrect, you must search for either apple* or apples
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| Author: | Fox_Brickr | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2020 15:39 | | Subject: | Re: bricklink lego piece not found | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Crafteewon writes:
| | In Catalog, foxbricks2009 writes:
| | what if i have a piece that i know is lego but i can't find it in the catalog.
could we have a feature for adding your own piece? or should i just make a custom
item?
i have this 2x8 apple bush piece i can't find.
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thank you!
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| Author: | Crafteewon | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2020 15:38 | | Subject: | Re: bricklink lego piece not found | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, foxbricks2009 writes:
| | what if i have a piece that i know is lego but i can't find it in the catalog.
could we have a feature for adding your own piece? or should i just make a custom
item?
i have this 2x8 apple bush piece i can't find.
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| Author: | Fox_Brickr | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2020 15:36 | | Subject: | bricklink lego piece not found | | Viewed: | 128 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| what if i have a piece that i know is lego but i can't find it in the catalog.
could we have a feature for adding your own piece? or should i just make a custom
item?
i have this 2x8 apple bush piece i can't find.
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| Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jun 21, 2020 18:14 | | Subject: | Re: Modified plate #4151 | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Tried to reply quickly and mixed up my tans. 
In Catalog, iprice writes:
| | In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
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Only supposed to be the b version found in :
Or
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Wrong Sail Barge!  
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 21, 2020 18:14 | | Subject: | Re: Modified plate #4151 | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Squeakie7 writes:
| | What set uses 8 x 8 modified plate #4151 with grille in a dark tan? It is not
listed in the catalog.
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You’re sure it isn’t a b (with hole)?
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=4151b&colorID=69&in=A
Or it could be from earlier versions of these sets and no one saw or said they
were Alternates (or rather Regular and 4151b an Alternate).
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| Author: | iprice | | Posted: | Jun 21, 2020 18:12 | | Subject: | Re: Modified plate #4151 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
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Only supposed to be the b version found in :
Or
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Wrong Sail Barge!
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| Author: | Squeakie7 | | Posted: | Jun 21, 2020 17:58 | | Subject: | Modified plate #4151 | | Viewed: | 82 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| What set uses 8 x 8 modified plate #4151 with grille in a dark tan? It is not
listed in the catalog.
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| Author: | mjah5 | | Posted: | Jun 21, 2020 16:38 | | Subject: | Re: Terminology - DB to organize my 100,000+ pcs | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, jcvp17 writes:
| | Hi!
For my personal Lego classification I am using the categories that you can see
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Hi jcvp17
I like your classifications. I also love Barcelona.
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| Author: | jcvp17 | | Posted: | Jun 21, 2020 15:18 | | Subject: | Re: Terminology - DB to organize my 100,000+ pcs | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Hi!
For my personal Lego classification I am using the categories that you can see
in the attached image. It works quite well for me, although we already know that
any classification is subjective, arbitrary and can be improved
best regards
jcvp17
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| Author: | Gp8871 | | Posted: | Jun 21, 2020 12:24 | | Subject: | Re: Unknown part | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, cycbuild writes:
| | In Catalog, Gp8871 writes:
| | Hello everybody!
Can anyone tell me what is this part, please?
Thanks
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Here ya go
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Thank you... haven’t thought of searching in that category.
Have a nice day
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| Author: | cycbuild | | Posted: | Jun 21, 2020 12:09 | | Subject: | Re: Unknown part | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Gp8871 writes:
| | Hello everybody!
Can anyone tell me what is this part, please?
Thanks
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Here ya go
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| Author: | Gp8871 | | Posted: | Jun 21, 2020 12:07 | | Subject: | Unknown part | | Viewed: | 112 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Hello everybody!
Can anyone tell me what is this part, please?
Thanks
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| Author: | mjah5 | | Posted: | Jun 21, 2020 04:34 | | Subject: | Re: Terminology - DB to organize my 100,000+ pcs | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Hello Soviet, yorbrick, SylvainLS, jeslego, Adjour, m.ws et.al.
Thank-you for your insight and advise. Everyone uses Lego for their own purposes.
Some enjoy playing with it. Some use it to express their creativity. Some use
it to generate cash. All uses are perfectly fine. I like to organize. If I
buy a set, I see that set as fun to assemble but it does not require any organizing.
There is only very limited "chaos" in a boxed set of LEGO. On the other hand,
when I purchase a pile of bricks on eBay, I'm not that interested in the
individual elements, but rather on the huge amount of "chaos" that those elements
represent. I'm not buying the elements, I'm buying the "chaos" that
I can then apply my passion to organizing to remove the "chaos" from the elements.
If my SIPs never get completed I don't really care. I'm not going to
be selling the complete SIP, It will just be stored away. My collection of completed
SIPs holds no more interest for me other than as a measure of how much "chaos"
I have taken great pleasure in removing from the "World of Lost LEGO Elements".
Generally, the expression goes, "The means to the end." In my case I would say
that" The Means is the End."
Reading and thinking about all the great comments that my original post has sparked
has caused me to want to change how I describe myself as a LEGO user. While
I always knew I am not a "Master Builder" I had thought I was a "Master Collector".
The BL community has helped me to realize that I am more properly an "Amateur
Organizer". To suggest that I an a "Master Organizer" would also suggest that
my method of organizing is in some way superior. It's not! it's just
the method that suits my particular "flavour of OCD."
Lastly, regarding the terminology I needed for my DB, with your excellent advise,
I have decided to go with this sequence:
CATEGORY :: PART :: ELEMENT :: PIECE
Thanks to all community member.
If anyone want to discuss further the structure of my DB or how I intend to use
it feel free to carry on this discussion or to message me through this site.
BRICK ON all!
Mark, an "Amateur Organizer"
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| Author: | w.sm | | Posted: | Jun 21, 2020 01:08 | | Subject: | Re: Terminology - DB to organize my 100,000+ pcs | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, mjah5 writes:
I'm building a MySQL Database to keep track of my collection.
Why are you creating an SQL DB?
Have you thought of using sites that already exist for tracking your collection?
I'm not sure but I think rebrickable can do it.
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| Author: | Adjour | | Posted: | Jun 20, 2020 22:22 | | Subject: | Re: Terminology - DB to organize my 100,000+ pcs | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | NEVER find yourself with 300+ sets to restore all at once. I did this too.
It complicates the process unnecessarily. If you have a pile of 1000 parts that
contains 600 you need to finish 8 sets, you have a manageable problem. If you
have a pile of 100k parts that contains the 600 you need to finish 8 sets, you
have a long, long slog ahead of you.
You can not store all of the parts ever produced. Holding odd bits for the day
that they are needed is a bit like waiting for Godot.
Every set has one or two parts that are unusually expensive. If you can quickly
identify these and determine whether you have them, you will be able to decide
if it makes economic sense to spend even one minute restoring this version of
the set. Ditto for Minifigs.
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Took the words out of my mouth. This is primarily what I do, and I don't
have 40 sets in progress, let alone 300. I usually finish one lot at a time.
If the set doesn't have the figs, I usually wont bother saving it depending
on what it is.
I try also to buy lots of similar themes, so I have easy spare parts without
having to have "everything that ever existed". I just need "most" of what was
produced 1980- 2000 in my case.
I guess none of that is helpful really to the OP's question. I personally
wouldn't bother trying to set up my situation to operate this way, I would
work on getting the number of sets I intend to sell in my possession waaay down.
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| Author: | jeslego | | Posted: | Jun 20, 2020 17:59 | | Subject: | Re: Terminology - DB to organize my 100,000+ pcs | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, mjah5 writes:
| | Hi all.
BACKGROUND: Let my start by saying that unlike my grandchildren, Marcus and
Soren, I am not a "Master Builder". I am a "Master Collector." My brick hobby
is to purchase long forgotten brick collections from parents of teen + former
brick fan that have been collecting dust in the basement or attic for years.
Once in my possession, I discard the fake pieces, wash the real ones then sort
them out looking for the special pieces that will tell me which sets the original
owner possessed.Then I try to re-assemble those sets.
PROBLEM: Currently, I have about 330 sets that I have identified as previously
owned. Those are my SIPs, "sets-in-progress." Each SIP has a container where
I store the parts that I've located. Together those 330 SIPs consist of
approximately 56,000 pieces. Of those, I have located about 23,000 pieces and
I am still looking for the other 23,000 pieces. I would guess my personal brick
collection consists of 100,000+ pieces that are not currently assigned to a SIP.
They are sorted and stored in other many other containers. When I need to locate
a piece for a SIP I look in about 5 "likely" containers then give up. Do I not
have the piece or is just in one of the many many "unlikely" containers?
SOLUTION: I'm building a MySQL Database to keep track of my collection.
Using BL's category system, there exist many bricks, slopes, arches etc.,
based more or less on shape. Within the sub-category bricks there are 1x1,
2x2, 2x4 etc., more or less based on size.
QUESTIONS: Q1;What are these sub-categories called? I would call them an ELEMENT.
is that correct? is there a better name for the sub-categories? Further, the
sub-categories such as 1x1 bricks of course come in many colours. Q2: What are
these sub-sub-categories called, or what are these ELEMENTs with a particular
colour called? I would call them a PART. Correct? Any other better name?
Q3; Lastly, if I hold in my hand, one blue 1x1 brick, what should that be called?
I would suggest that is a PIECE. Correct? Any better answer?
CATEGORY :: ELEMENT :: PART :: PIECE ??
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I liked Sylvain's answer, but my perspective is a little different.
A very long time ago, I started doing what you are doing, with the intent of
creating a business for my kids. It pays okay, but not enough to support an
adult. It is something to do when there is nothing to do.
Defining the objects in a LEGO database can be done. But it will take lots of
time to populate and maintain. The data design time has already being expended
by other organizations. The structure of the Bricklink catalog may not be ideal,
but it is free.
As noted elsewhere in the thread, the mold numbers and even minor part variations
start to matter as set age to the point where they are bought for nostalgia or
collections. If this is your market, you will need a database that warns you
when to do more than just check the shape and color of the parts.
But if your market is making people happy by providing them with a fun building
experience that is less costly than what it would be to buy the sets new, than
there are some shortcuts you can take.
Everything you need to finish a set is available for sale. Hence the real question
becomes whether it is less expensive to look for it in your inventory or on line.
There is a core of basic LEGO parts. Sort those by shape. They will be the
bulk of what you have in your 100k inventory. Storage is naturally self sorting.
Bricks, plates, slopes, wings, arches, lift arms, small technic parts, etc.
This speeds the bulk of your searches.
NEVER find yourself with 300+ sets to restore all at once. I did this too.
It complicates the process unnecessarily. If you have a pile of 1000 parts that
contains 600 you need to finish 8 sets, you have a manageable problem. If you
have a pile of 100k parts that contains the 600 you need to finish 8 sets, you
have a long, long slog ahead of you.
You can not store all of the parts ever produced. Holding odd bits for the day
that they are needed is a bit like waiting for Godot.
Every set has one or two parts that are unusually expensive. If you can quickly
identify these and determine whether you have them, you will be able to decide
if it makes economic sense to spend even one minute restoring this version of
the set. Ditto for Minifigs.
If you want to build and maintain databases, by all means do so. But a better
database will not help you complete sets any faster. If your time is worth $60
per hour and it takes you a minute to tag, store, and record the location of
a $1 part, you will lose money on said part when you pay for its storage space
or go to transfer it to a set.
Good Luck
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| Author: | mjah5 | | Posted: | Jun 20, 2020 17:36 | | Subject: | Re: Terminology - DB to organize my 100,000+ pcs | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | First, that you have trouble finding names for your entities is a big clue they
are the wrong entities.
Vocabulary-wise, “element,” ”part” and “piece” are mostly the same thing.
LEGO uses “design” for the mould (and decor ) and “element” for design + colour.
LEGO’s “DesignID” is the number most often used by BL, LDraw and others as a
“part ID” or “name” (the text explaining the part is then a “description”).
And LEGO’s “ElementID,” the 6-digit number that appears in their instructions,
is what BL calls a PCC / Part-Colour-Code.
So, you found out that BL’s categories are “more or less based on shape.” That
means they aren’t.
Then you thought about colours. “Everybody knows” you don’t sort LEGO by colour
Then you found that many pieces share the same shape and are distinguished by
their size. Not all are.
So, what are you trying to do with this? Are you are trying to categorize your
parts to fit them in containers?
Then what you found out is that parts have attributes: general shape, size, colour,
and you “more or less” ordered them: shape first, then colour, then size.
Okay, that’s some sort of sieve system to define containers.
But why do you need to put that in you DB?
You have a list of parts of one side, your inventory, and lists of parts on the
other side, the wanted parts for the sets.
How will the database be used? You need to know first if the exact part (ID
+ colour) is in your inventory and, second, where it’s stored if it is.
Where do this categorization of yours is used in the DB?
Nowhere that I see.
Or do you want to have an algorithm that takes a BL part (ID + description +
colour) and turns out a container number?
But does it have to be in the DB? Not that I see.
So I don’t see a need to complicate your DB. You just need to have four main
tables: parts (BL id + description), colours, inventories (list of parts in a
given colour and in a given quantity), and containers (association between a
location and parts).
Besides, you’ll quickly find all “shapes” don’t divise regularly (or at all)
into “colours” or “sizes” (most of the heads are yellow; slopes first divise
by angle, not size; Technic connectors don’t come in many colours nor sizes; etc.).
Especially if you use BL categories as “shapes.”
On this note, here’s a rough categorization that some sellers (who sort many
parts) use as a first sieve:
Bricks & Arches
Brick Modified & Round
Plate
Plate Modified & Round
Slope
Technic
Tile & Panel
Minifig
Other
They are about the same size in a “standard” collection. This might help you
devise your containers’ organization.
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Hello SylvainLS, thank-you for the very useful information. You raise some very
good points. in my initial message I did not describe the structure of the DB
I am building because it was un-necessary to the information I was seeking and
would have taken far to many keystrokes and doubtlessly many readers wouldn't
have cared less and some would have been confused regardless. However, since
you raised the issue, I'll try to be brief.
My SIPs are managed adequately by BL using the WANTED LISTS. While I may in
the future move that info into the DB, currently the DB is just for my unassigned
pieces. My plan is to assign each of my existing containers into the `Containers`
table. There will also be a `Colours` and a `Categories` table. The Containers
table will be linked to the Colours and Categories tables. Some containers will
have only one colour and one category, but as you point out some. container will
colour and category lines, such as the container for my "larger-ish" TRANSparent
pieces.
My next table will, as you suggest, be for PARTS linking part descriptions to
category descriptions. The last table will be, likely called ELEMENTS will link
PARTS to COLOURS and to a particular container and will list a ELEMENT count
for the for that container. Were I to have many Blue 2x4 bricks that I required
a second container, the ELEMENTS table would have two or more entries (a one
to many relationship).
Once all set up, my PLAN FOR USE is to use the BL WANTED LISTS to identify missing
SIP elements then to query my DB to identify which one or more of my containers
hold those elements. Update both DBs then move on to the next missing Element.
If I don't have the missing element then I can use BL to purchase it. Right
now, I don't want to purchase anything from BL because I'm not 100% certain
I don't already have it somewhere.
Like I said, thank-you for your excellent and helpful information on sorting,
storing and managing my collection.
Regards, Mark
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| Author: | mjah5 | | Posted: | Jun 20, 2020 16:51 | | Subject: | Re: Terminology - DB to organize my 100,000+ pcs | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | It is the other way around. A 1x1 brick is a part. A 1x1 brick in blue is an
element. A single piece in your hand can be called piece or part or element,
whatever you want really.
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Hello yorbrick, thank-you for the information. I like your suggestion and will
likely go with it.
Regards, Mark
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