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 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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StormChaser (566)

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In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
  is there a reason why some statuettes are minifigures and others are minifig, untensil, decorated?

The intention of the recent update to this page:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=170

was to clarify situations like this. Take a look and see if it does.

If it doesn't, then please offer suggestions on improving the standards so
that it is clear where individual statuettes should go.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jun 25, 2020 14:23
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In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
  Ok, so this might open a can of worms, but is there a reason why some statuettes
are minifigures and others are minifig, untensil, decorated?? Or is it just
up to whatever the person who adds it feels like doing?

My sense is that if they were supposed to be a small minifig then it was added
as such and if it was used as an actual statue/toy then it was added as a utensil.

Yep.

   Astronaut guy doesn't seem to follow the pattern.

I tried to have this fixed almost three years ago and was rejected by the catalog
admins at that time without even an explanation.

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=226017&nID=1055785
 Author: Rick_S. View Messages Posted By Rick_S.
 Posted: Jun 25, 2020 14:21
 Subject: Re: Darth Vader Head Mold Variance
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In Catalog, M.Boss writes:
  
 
Part No: 30368  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet SW Darth Vader
* 
30368 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet SW Darth Vader
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

When comparing two Darth Vader figures I had, I discovered a mold variance between
two helmets. The "old" type came likey was made from 1999-2014, while The "new"
type appeared in the 2019 20th Anniversary Clone Scout Walker
 
Set No: 75261  Name: Clone Scout Walker – 20th Anniversary Edition
* 
75261-1 (Inv) Clone Scout Walker – 20th Anniversary Edition
198 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 2019
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 3
I think
this new mold was created because in order to create the anniversary figure lego
wanted to use a 1 piece Vader helmet, as opposed to the 2 piece helmets they
switched to a couple of years ago. This mold variation deserves a note in the
catalog entry for the helmet,, or a variant added to the catalog, but I'm
not sure which. If someone wants to take the appropriate action from here, please
go ahead. See the attached image for the differences between the two.

think one on right is a chinese knock off.
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Jun 25, 2020 14:16
 Subject: Re: Darth Vader Head Mold Variance
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In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, M.Boss writes:
  
 
Part No: 30368  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet SW Darth Vader
* 
30368 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet SW Darth Vader
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

When comparing two Darth Vader figures I had, I discovered a mold variance between
two helmets. The "old" type came likey was made from 1999-2014, while The "new"
type appeared in the 2019 20th Anniversary Clone Scout Walker
 
Set No: 75261  Name: Clone Scout Walker – 20th Anniversary Edition
* 
75261-1 (Inv) Clone Scout Walker – 20th Anniversary Edition
198 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 2019
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 3
I think
this new mold was created because in order to create the anniversary figure lego
wanted to use a 1 piece Vader helmet, as opposed to the 2 piece helmets they
switched to a couple of years ago. This mold variation deserves a note in the
catalog entry for the helmet,, or a variant added to the catalog, but I'm
not sure which. If someone wants to take the appropriate action from here, please
go ahead. See the attached image for the differences between the two.

I have an original helmet from 1999 and it is fur sure the left variant, so that's
definitly not a new mold. I would also say that most if not all images here show
the left variant:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=30368&in=M

And regarding the reintroduction of the old helmet in set 75261, the designers
said that the old mold was still available:
https://www.brothers-brick.com/2019/04/09/interview-with-lego-star-wars-designers-jens-kronvold-and-kurt-kristiansen-feature/

So I am wondering: Where did you find the right variant and are you sure it is
a genuine LEGO part?

I agree with Jonas.
Your "old" mold on right is suspicious. I just take a look on my Vaders from
different years and in all I have left helmet with narrow nose so your "new"
mold. And there is only one diffrence between oldest and newer Vader halmets
from this mold (later on this).
For this post I just took 4 representants from different years.
1) First one is
 
Minifig No: sw0004  Name: Darth Vader (Light Gray Head)
* 
sw0004 (Inv) Darth Vader (Light Gray Head)
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6
years 1999-2003
My minfigure on images is from 2002 set.
2) Second one is
 
Minifig No: sw0277  Name: Darth Vader (White Pupils)
* 
sw0277 (Inv) Darth Vader (White Pupils)
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6
years 2009-2016
My minfigure on images is from 2011 set.
3) Third one is
 
Minifig No: sw0599  Name: Santa Darth Vader
* 
sw0599 (Inv) Santa Darth Vader
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Other
this ony came onluy in 2014 advent calendar.
4) fourth one
 
Minifig No: sw1029  Name: Darth Vader (20th Anniversary Torso)
* 
sw1029 (Inv) Darth Vader (20th Anniversary Torso)
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6
the newest one from 2019 anniversary set.

and as you can see all of them have identical narrow nose just like "new one"
from your photo.

The only change is that somwhere in timeline LEGO started to add molded number
on this helmet and LEGO logo. Oldest ones don't have mold number and LEGO
logo. It is visible on images. But with mold number this helmet was already in
2014 advent calendar set and this helmet is identical with 2019 helmet.
btw LEGO has for this part only one mold number and one PCC
https://brickset.com/parts/design-30368

I also check that in this Vader from 2013
 
Minifig No: sw0464  Name: Darth Vader (Celebration)
* 
sw0464 (Inv) Darth Vader (Celebration)
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Other
helmet is also already with mold number on it. (and it is of course identical
with 2019 one). I couldn't track for now when LEGO have started to molding
part number on this helmet. But beside this only difference oldest helmet without
part number are identical with newer ones with part number.
 










 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Jun 25, 2020 14:02
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In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
  Ok, so this might open a can of worms, but is there a reason why some statuettes
are minifigures and others are minifig, untensil, decorated?? Or is it just
up to whatever the person who adds it feels like doing?

My sense is that if they were supposed to be a small minifig then it was added
as such and if it was used as an actual statue/toy then it was added as a utensil.
Astronaut guy doesn't seem to follow the pattern.

Jen
 Author: tons_of_bricks View Messages Posted By tons_of_bricks
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Ok, so this might open a can of worms, but is there a reason why some statuettes
are minifigures and others are minifig, untensil, decorated?? Or is it just
up to whatever the person who adds it feels like doing?
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Jun 25, 2020 10:13
 Subject: Re: Change Notification: Parts 4623 and 88072
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This solution looks like what I suggested.

I'm glad these changes will be made, and I look forward to see how the inventories
for my old 80's sets will look in the future.

/Jan
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Jun 25, 2020 03:24
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In Catalog, M.Boss writes:
  
 
Part No: 30368  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet SW Darth Vader
* 
30368 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet SW Darth Vader
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

When comparing two Darth Vader figures I had, I discovered a mold variance between
two helmets. The "old" type came likey was made from 1999-2014, while The "new"
type appeared in the 2019 20th Anniversary Clone Scout Walker
 
Set No: 75261  Name: Clone Scout Walker – 20th Anniversary Edition
* 
75261-1 (Inv) Clone Scout Walker – 20th Anniversary Edition
198 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 2019
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 3
I think
this new mold was created because in order to create the anniversary figure lego
wanted to use a 1 piece Vader helmet, as opposed to the 2 piece helmets they
switched to a couple of years ago. This mold variation deserves a note in the
catalog entry for the helmet,, or a variant added to the catalog, but I'm
not sure which. If someone wants to take the appropriate action from here, please
go ahead. See the attached image for the differences between the two.

I have an original helmet from 1999 and it is fur sure the left variant, so that's
definitly not a new mold. I would also say that most if not all images here show
the left variant:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=30368&in=M

And regarding the reintroduction of the old helmet in set 75261, the designers
said that the old mold was still available:
https://www.brothers-brick.com/2019/04/09/interview-with-lego-star-wars-designers-jens-kronvold-and-kurt-kristiansen-feature/

So I am wondering: Where did you find the right variant and are you sure it is
a genuine LEGO part?
 Author: jbroman View Messages Posted By jbroman
 Posted: Jun 24, 2020 23:50
 Subject: Re: How are stud measurements translated?
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This is what I got after I sent in a dimensions change for the robot body part:

  Do I have to put in a change for all three variants?

No, the dimensions changes wouldn't be accepted for any of them because this
part has non-standard dimensions.

  The reason I put the dimensions in for this one was that I had a sale and the dimensions made it want to go as a package instead of meeting the dimensions of our lettermail. I guess I’ll have to change the dimensions for my own inventory.

I'm sorry that our dimensions are so confusing. We will be working on improving
them this year. I'll try to explain how packaging dimensions work. There
is a hidden field for each catalog entry that contains packaging dimensions and
these are used to calculate instant checkout.

The stud-size dimensions you see (2 x 2 x 2, in this case) are not used for packaging
dimensions. And stud-size dimensions themselves are in a mess. There are 28,000+
parts missing stud-size dimensions altogether.

But that's another issue. If you need packaging dimensions updated, these
are handled by a site administrator out in California and not by catalog associates
like myself. To get packaging dimensions added or corrected, please post in
the discussion forum using the Packaging Dimensions topic.

If you have any questions about any of this, please let us know. And again,
I apologize for the confusing way we do things right now.


I still haven't sent in the packaging dimensions to the site admin.
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Jun 24, 2020 22:19
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In Catalog, Crafteewon writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, Crafteewon writes:
  Hello

I got a quote request from a customer saying that the shipping was too high.
When I looked at the order it looks like the below piece is the issue.
I have shipped this part before with no issues as lettermail.
With Canada post anything thicker than 2cm must be sent as parcel which is much
more expensive.
I am trying to understand how bricklink takes the 2x2x2 and translates that to
shipping dimensions in centimetres or inches.
Also can someone help me to understand how this can be 2x2x2 when one side is
longer than it is wide.
Is one of the measurements stacked bricks?

Thanks for any help

Edward

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=261

Thank you this helps, but it doesn’t address how bricklink uses this information
as it relates to packaging limits.

BrickLink keeps a separate database for packaging dimensions not related to the
format of our catalog data. The new database was derived from a mishmash of sources
but is now updated by members posting in a certain thread here in the Forum.
You can only view the dimensions entered for the parts in your shop on the My
Inventory pages.

Hope that helps,
Jen

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