Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies Author: | mjah5 | Posted: | Jun 20, 2020 16:32 | Subject: | Re: Terminology - DB to organize my 100,000+ pcs | Viewed: | 39 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Soviet writes:
| Interesting, I would love to see a photo of your "SIP wall". Maybe you should
look into buying boxes and instructions to fully complete the sets?
To answer your question, Category Element Part seems correct, but I think
that Part is already a Piece, by your nomenclature. I guess the proper BrickLink
way would be Category Item (for a certain item) and then maybe Piece for an
Item in specific color. Maybe you should also introduce "Mold" into the database,
because--as you probably know--some of the old items used to look quite
different.
But my most important point is: if you're adding all your pieces to a database,
why not add them to BrickLink inventory? Even better, you can try Rebrickable,
which will give you a lot of interesting options when looking into completing
sets.
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Soviet, thank-you for the information and assistance. I will be sending you
a personal message with a picture of my SIPs and my many containers of unassigned
pieces.
The issue of mould differences and older pieces general is a concern. I try
to keep my SIPs period correct. I have separate containers for older pieces
where the PIP marks are on the side rather than in the middle of one of the studs
as is the case I do use BL to manage my SIPS. Currently I have 358 Wanted Lists,
one per SIP. I had considered using BL's Inventory feature to manage my
unassigned pieces, however, that is only available to Sellers members, not to
Buyers. Therefore, I'm using this project as a learning opportunity to develop
a DB with a web interface. Programming is my other passion.
Regards, Mark
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Jun 20, 2020 15:06 | Subject: | Re: Terminology - DB to organize my 100,000+ pcs | Viewed: | 40 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, mjah5 writes:
| Hi all.
BACKGROUND: Let my start by saying that unlike my grandchildren, Marcus and
Soren, I am not a "Master Builder". I am a "Master Collector." My brick hobby
is to purchase long forgotten brick collections from parents of teen + former
brick fan that have been collecting dust in the basement or attic for years.
Once in my possession, I discard the fake pieces, wash the real ones then sort
them out looking for the special pieces that will tell me which sets the original
owner possessed.Then I try to re-assemble those sets.
PROBLEM: Currently, I have about 330 sets that I have identified as previously
owned. Those are my SIPs, "sets-in-progress." Each SIP has a container where
I store the parts that I've located. Together those 330 SIPs consist of
approximately 56,000 pieces. Of those, I have located about 23,000 pieces and
I am still looking for the other 23,000 pieces. I would guess my personal brick
collection consists of 100,000+ pieces that are not currently assigned to a SIP.
They are sorted and stored in other many other containers. When I need to locate
a piece for a SIP I look in about 5 "likely" containers then give up. Do I not
have the piece or is just in one of the many many "unlikely" containers?
SOLUTION: I'm building a MySQL Database to keep track of my collection.
Using BL's category system, there exist many bricks, slopes, arches etc.,
based more or less on shape. Within the sub-category bricks there are 1x1,
2x2, 2x4 etc., more or less based on size.
QUESTIONS: Q1;What are these sub-categories called? I would call them an ELEMENT.
is that correct? is there a better name for the sub-categories? Further, the
sub-categories such as 1x1 bricks of course come in many colours. Q2: What are
these sub-sub-categories called, or what are these ELEMENTs with a particular
colour called? I would call them a PART. Correct? Any other better name?
Q3; Lastly, if I hold in my hand, one blue 1x1 brick, what should that be called?
I would suggest that is a PIECE. Correct? Any better answer?
CATEGORY :: ELEMENT :: PART :: PIECE ??
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First, that you have trouble finding names for your entities is a big clue they
are the wrong entities.
Vocabulary-wise, “element,” ”part” and “piece” are mostly the same thing.
LEGO uses “design” for the mould (and decor ) and “element” for design + colour.
LEGO’s “DesignID” is the number most often used by BL, LDraw and others as a
“part ID” or “name” (the text explaining the part is then a “description”).
And LEGO’s “ElementID,” the 6-digit number that appears in their instructions,
is what BL calls a PCC / Part-Colour-Code.
So, you found out that BL’s categories are “more or less based on shape.” That
means they aren’t.
Then you thought about colours. “Everybody knows” you don’t sort LEGO by colour
Then you found that many pieces share the same shape and are distinguished by
their size. Not all are.
So, what are you trying to do with this? Are you are trying to categorize your
parts to fit them in containers?
Then what you found out is that parts have attributes: general shape, size, colour,
and you “more or less” ordered them: shape first, then colour, then size.
Okay, that’s some sort of sieve system to define containers.
But why do you need to put that in you DB?
You have a list of parts of one side, your inventory, and lists of parts on the
other side, the wanted parts for the sets.
How will the database be used? You need to know first if the exact part (ID
+ colour) is in your inventory and, second, where it’s stored if it is.
Where do this categorization of yours is used in the DB?
Nowhere that I see.
Or do you want to have an algorithm that takes a BL part (ID + description +
colour) and turns out a container number?
But does it have to be in the DB? Not that I see.
So I don’t see a need to complicate your DB. You just need to have four main
tables: parts (BL id + description), colours, inventories (list of parts in a
given colour and in a given quantity), and containers (association between a
location and parts).
Besides, you’ll quickly find all “shapes” don’t divise regularly (or at all)
into “colours” or “sizes” (most of the heads are yellow; slopes first divise
by angle, not size; Technic connectors don’t come in many colours nor sizes; etc.).
Especially if you use BL categories as “shapes.”
On this note, here’s a rough categorization that some sellers (who sort many
parts) use as a first sieve:
Bricks & Arches
Brick Modified & Round
Plate
Plate Modified & Round
Slope
Technic
Tile & Panel
Minifig
Other
They are about the same size in a “standard” collection. This might help you
devise your containers’ organization.
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Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Jun 20, 2020 14:26 | Subject: | Re: Terminology - DB to organize my 100,000+ pcs | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | QUESTIONS: Q1;What are these sub-categories called? I would call them an ELEMENT.
is that correct? is there a better name for the sub-categories? Further, the
sub-categories such as 1x1 bricks of course come in many colours. Q2: What are
these sub-sub-categories called, or what are these ELEMENTs with a particular
colour called? I would call them a PART. Correct? Any other better name?
Q3; Lastly, if I hold in my hand, one blue 1x1 brick, what should that be called?
I would suggest that is a PIECE. Correct? Any better answer?
CATEGORY :: ELEMENT :: PART :: PIECE ??
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It is the other way around. A 1x1 brick is a part. A 1x1 brick in blue is an
element. A single piece in your hand can be called piece or part or element,
whatever you want really.
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Author: | Soviet | Posted: | Jun 20, 2020 14:09 | Subject: | Re: Terminology - DB to organize my 100,000+ pcs | Viewed: | 49 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Interesting, I would love to see a photo of your "SIP wall". Maybe you should
look into buying boxes and instructions to fully complete the sets?
To answer your question, Category Element Part seems correct, but I think
that Part is already a Piece, by your nomenclature. I guess the proper BrickLink
way would be Category Item (for a certain item) and then maybe Piece for an
Item in specific color. Maybe you should also introduce "Mold" into the database,
because--as you probably know--some of the old items used to look quite
different.
But my most important point is: if you're adding all your pieces to a database,
why not add them to BrickLink inventory? Even better, you can try Rebrickable,
which will give you a lot of interesting options when looking into completing
sets.
In Catalog, mjah5 writes:
| Hi all.
BACKGROUND: Let my start by saying that unlike my grandchildren, Marcus and
Soren, I am not a "Master Builder". I am a "Master Collector." My brick hobby
is to purchase long forgotten brick collections from parents of teen + former
brick fan that have been collecting dust in the basement or attic for years.
Once in my possession, I discard the fake pieces, wash the real ones then sort
them out looking for the special pieces that will tell me which sets the original
owner possessed.Then I try to re-assemble those sets.
PROBLEM: Currently, I have about 330 sets that I have identified as previously
owned. Those are my SIPs, "sets-in-progress." Each SIP has a container where
I store the parts that I've located. Together those 330 SIPs consist of
approximately 56,000 pieces. Of those, I have located about 23,000 pieces and
I am still looking for the other 23,000 pieces. I would guess my personal brick
collection consists of 100,000+ pieces that are not currently assigned to a SIP.
They are sorted and stored in other many other containers. When I need to locate
a piece for a SIP I look in about 5 "likely" containers then give up. Do I not
have the piece or is just in one of the many many "unlikely" containers?
SOLUTION: I'm building a MySQL Database to keep track of my collection.
Using BL's category system, there exist many bricks, slopes, arches etc.,
based more or less on shape. Within the sub-category bricks there are 1x1,
2x2, 2x4 etc., more or less based on size.
QUESTIONS: Q1;What are these sub-categories called? I would call them an ELEMENT.
is that correct? is there a better name for the sub-categories? Further, the
sub-categories such as 1x1 bricks of course come in many colours. Q2: What are
these sub-sub-categories called, or what are these ELEMENTs with a particular
colour called? I would call them a PART. Correct? Any other better name?
Q3; Lastly, if I hold in my hand, one blue 1x1 brick, what should that be called?
I would suggest that is a PIECE. Correct? Any better answer?
CATEGORY :: ELEMENT :: PART :: PIECE ??
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Author: | mjah5 | Posted: | Jun 20, 2020 13:26 | Subject: | Terminology - DB to organize my 100,000+ pcs | Viewed: | 175 times | Topic: | Catalog | Status: | Open | |
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| Hi all.
BACKGROUND: Let my start by saying that unlike my grandchildren, Marcus and
Soren, I am not a "Master Builder". I am a "Master Collector." My brick hobby
is to purchase long forgotten brick collections from parents of teen + former
brick fan that have been collecting dust in the basement or attic for years.
Once in my possession, I discard the fake pieces, wash the real ones then sort
them out looking for the special pieces that will tell me which sets the original
owner possessed.Then I try to re-assemble those sets.
PROBLEM: Currently, I have about 330 sets that I have identified as previously
owned. Those are my SIPs, "sets-in-progress." Each SIP has a container where
I store the parts that I've located. Together those 330 SIPs consist of
approximately 56,000 pieces. Of those, I have located about 23,000 pieces and
I am still looking for the other 23,000 pieces. I would guess my personal brick
collection consists of 100,000+ pieces that are not currently assigned to a SIP.
They are sorted and stored in other many other containers. When I need to locate
a piece for a SIP I look in about 5 "likely" containers then give up. Do I not
have the piece or is just in one of the many many "unlikely" containers?
SOLUTION: I'm building a MySQL Database to keep track of my collection.
Using BL's category system, there exist many bricks, slopes, arches etc.,
based more or less on shape. Within the sub-category bricks there are 1x1,
2x2, 2x4 etc., more or less based on size.
QUESTIONS: Q1;What are these sub-categories called? I would call them an ELEMENT.
is that correct? is there a better name for the sub-categories? Further, the
sub-categories such as 1x1 bricks of course come in many colours. Q2: What are
these sub-sub-categories called, or what are these ELEMENTs with a particular
colour called? I would call them a PART. Correct? Any other better name?
Q3; Lastly, if I hold in my hand, one blue 1x1 brick, what should that be called?
I would suggest that is a PIECE. Correct? Any better answer?
CATEGORY :: ELEMENT :: PART :: PIECE ??
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Author: | primadeluxe | Posted: | Jun 19, 2020 14:26 | Subject: | Re: part 2494pb08 variants | Viewed: | 26 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Nice catch! Ask for a note and submit your image to show the differences.
In Catalog, crepundi writes:
| I noticed there are two versions of the 1 x 4 x 5 glass with 9 stripes,
one has more wider and the other one more narrow stripes.
Looking at the sticker sheets of the two sets this part comes from I believe
the narrow one is from set 6386 and the wider from set 6540
Maybe there should be a remark about this.
Besides: how can I show a sticker sheet in a message?
Gisela
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Jun 19, 2020 14:18 | Subject: | Re: part 2494pb08 variants | Viewed: | 27 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, crepundi writes:
| I noticed there are two versions of the 1 x 4 x 5 glass with 9 stripes,
one has more wider and the other one more narrow stripes.
Looking at the sticker sheets of the two sets this part comes from I believe
the narrow one is from set 6386 and the wider from set 6540
Maybe there should be a remark about this.
Besides: how can I show a sticker sheet in a message?
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Stickers are parts.
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Author: | crepundi | Posted: | Jun 19, 2020 14:06 | Subject: | part 2494pb08 variants | Viewed: | 67 times | Topic: | Catalog | Status: | Open | |
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| I noticed there are two versions of the 1 x 4 x 5 glass with 9 stripes,
one has more wider and the other one more narrow stripes.
Looking at the sticker sheets of the two sets this part comes from I believe
the narrow one is from set 6386 and the wider from set 6540
Maybe there should be a remark about this.
Besides: how can I show a sticker sheet in a message?
Gisela
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Author: | lego.12vtrains | Posted: | Jun 19, 2020 06:51 | Subject: | Re: Train wheels | Viewed: | 42 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Thanks for reporting this and for the hint. |
Author: | StormChaser | Posted: | Jun 19, 2020 00:48 | Subject: | Re: Train wheels | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, lego.12vtrains writes:
| Hi StormChaser,
from your words I suspect these guidelines will become more and more restrictive, and this fact scares me enough
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The actual catalog guidelines page will be opened for public comment and subsequent
modification before being implemented. So watch for that and take the opportunity
to provide feedback on anything you find objectionable or frightening.
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Author: | lego.12vtrains | Posted: | Jun 18, 2020 16:27 | Subject: | Re: Train wheels | Viewed: | 54 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Hi StormChaser,
thanks for taking part in the discussion and for explaining us the reasons of
this rejection, I perfectly understand that first of all you Admins want to get
your guidelines figured out before taking some decisions, but from your words
I suspect these guidelines will become more and more restrictive, and this fact
scares me enough: how could more restrictive guidelines help the catalogue to
become more precise and accurate?
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Author: | primadeluxe | Posted: | Jun 18, 2020 16:00 | Subject: | Re: Mold markings Duplo bed #4895 versus #76338 | Viewed: | 25 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| It is a nice catch! You should ask for a note at catalog requests and submit
a image with the difference. Cheers!
In Catalog, bricksahead writes:
| Part #76338 is considered an alternate item id for part #4895. I noticed that
Duplo bed, part #4895 has a mold marking in the center of the bed while Duplo
bed, part #76338 has a mold marking inside a bottom tube.
Is this something that should be added to the catalog?
I checked 17 beds, part #76388, and they all have mold markings inside a bottom
tube, and 7 beds, part #4895 that all have mold marking on top of the bed (in
the center).
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Author: | bricksahead | Posted: | Jun 18, 2020 15:12 | Subject: | Mold markings Duplo bed #4895 versus #76338 | Viewed: | 40 times | Topic: | Catalog | Status: | Open | |
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| Part #76338 is considered an alternate item id for part #4895. I noticed that
Duplo bed, part #4895 has a mold marking in the center of the bed while Duplo
bed, part #76338 has a mold marking inside a bottom tube.
Is this something that should be added to the catalog?
I checked 17 beds, part #76388, and they all have mold markings inside a bottom
tube, and 7 beds, part #4895 that all have mold marking on top of the bed (in
the center).
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Author: | legohed | Posted: | Jun 18, 2020 14:22 | Subject: | Re: Retirement Date List | Viewed: | 37 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| In Catalog, legohed writes:
| Hi all,
New member here...
I'm interested to know if there is a list anywhere of the sets with their
retirement date.
I see the 'year released' on all the item pages, but nothing on retirement.
If anyone can help I'd be most grateful
Thanks!
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Do you mean already retired sets? If so, look on brickset, they have data the
sets were available direct from LEGO so about as close to a retirement date as
you can get.
For future retirements, there are only guesses.
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Thank you!
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Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Jun 18, 2020 12:28 | Subject: | Re: Retirement Date List | Viewed: | 31 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, legohed writes:
| Hi all,
New member here...
I'm interested to know if there is a list anywhere of the sets with their
retirement date.
I see the 'year released' on all the item pages, but nothing on retirement.
If anyone can help I'd be most grateful
Thanks!
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Do you mean already retired sets? If so, look on brickset, they have data the
sets were available direct from LEGO so about as close to a retirement date as
you can get.
For future retirements, there are only guesses.
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Author: | legohed | Posted: | Jun 18, 2020 12:24 | Subject: | Retirement Date List | Viewed: | 106 times | Topic: | Catalog | Status: | Open | |
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| Hi all,
New member here...
I'm interested to know if there is a list anywhere of the sets with their
retirement date.
I see the 'year released' on all the item pages, but nothing on retirement.
If anyone can help I'd be most grateful
Thanks!
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Author: | normann1974 | Posted: | Jun 18, 2020 06:30 | Subject: | Re: Hinge brick assemblies with 2x2 top? | Viewed: | 65 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | As far as I know they are not assemblies because they came separate in the sets.
I have separated hundreds/thousands without causing any damage.
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I believe that assemblies are not only made for pre-assembled parts in sets.
Example:
* | | 2878c02 (Inv) Train Wheel RC, Holder with 2 Black Train Wheel RC Train and Chrome Silver Train Wheel RC Train, Metal Axle (2878 / 57878 / x1687) Parts: Wheel |
This part is even easier to disassemble than the hinges, and have no risk of
inducing stress marks.
/Jan
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Author: | Stellar | Posted: | Jun 17, 2020 18:07 | Subject: | Re: Pickable Models and In-Store Builds | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| Behold what we approved today
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Sorry, looks like we had a bit of a technological hiccup with these changes.
We're sorting it out.
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ohhh hope to see them again soon
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Author: | StormChaser | Posted: | Jun 17, 2020 16:01 | Subject: | Re: Pickable Models and In-Store Builds | Viewed: | 58 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| Behold what we approved today
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Sorry, looks like we had a bit of a technological hiccup with these changes.
We're sorting it out.
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Author: | edk | Posted: | Jun 17, 2020 15:53 | Subject: | Re: Hinge brick assemblies with 2x2 top? | Viewed: | 51 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| Hello
I was about to sell a lot of assemblies of and and found out
that no such assemblies exist in the catalog like they do for the 3939c* assemblies
with tops. So if I want to sell them on BL, I have to disassemble them
and I have found that to be very difficult. In many cases, it leaves stressmarks
on the small hooks on the bases, and then I need to discard them.
So, is there any project planned to make assemblies for these? They come in two
flavors depending on whether the top turns upwards or downwards, so the amount
of parts needed would approx. be doubled compared to the 3937c* assemblies. But
IMHO, it would really help sellers.
/Jan
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As far as I know they are not assemblies because they came separate in the sets.
I have separated hundreds/thousands without causing any damage.
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Author: | normann1974 | Posted: | Jun 17, 2020 15:44 | Subject: | Hinge brick assemblies with 2x2 top? | Viewed: | 95 times | Topic: | Catalog | Status: | Open | |
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| Hello
I was about to sell a lot of assemblies of and and found out
that no such assemblies exist in the catalog like they do for the 3939c* assemblies
with tops. So if I want to sell them on BL, I have to disassemble them
and I have found that to be very difficult. In many cases, it leaves stressmarks
on the small hooks on the bases, and then I need to discard them.
So, is there any project planned to make assemblies for these? They come in two
flavors depending on whether the top turns upwards or downwards, so the amount
of parts needed would approx. be doubled compared to the 3937c* assemblies. But
IMHO, it would really help sellers.
/Jan
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Author: | Rick_S. | Posted: | Jun 17, 2020 13:43 | Subject: | Re: Pickable Models and In-Store Builds | Viewed: | 31 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| In Catalog, bje writes:
| Can I resubmit my pickable models from 2012 or are you just going to change
the instruction entries to sets?
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It doesn't appear to cause any problems to change instructions to
sets, so for existing instructions this is probably what will occur - except
possibly in cases where there are large numbers of items for sale.
Here's one changed:
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I tried listing those instructions when I listed the sticker sheet for the set
and it got denied, guess rules changed?
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Author: | Proprietor | Posted: | Jun 17, 2020 13:15 | Subject: | Re: Pickable Models and In-Store Builds | Viewed: | 34 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Add this one please!
[g=3850011]
A lot of the listings are already for the set and not the instructions.
In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
Thanks!
| | Can I resubmit my pickable models from 2012 or are you just going to change
the instruction entries to sets?
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It doesn't appear to cause any problems to change instructions to
sets, so for existing instructions this is probably what will occur - except
possibly in cases where there are large numbers of items for sale.
Here's one changed:
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Author: | StormChaser | Posted: | Jun 17, 2020 13:10 | Subject: | Re: Pickable Models and In-Store Builds | Viewed: | 44 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, bje writes:
| Can I resubmit my pickable models from 2012 or are you just going to change
the instruction entries to sets?
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It doesn't appear to cause any problems to change instructions to
sets, so for existing instructions this is probably what will occur - except
possibly in cases where there are large numbers of items for sale.
Here's one changed:
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Author: | starbeanie | Posted: | Jun 17, 2020 13:09 | Subject: | Re: Pickable Models and In-Store Builds | Viewed: | 41 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| I just submitted the set image for it.
In Catalog, bje writes:
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| Looks like things are changing around here. Behold what we approved today:
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Whoot! Can I resubmit my pickable models from 2012 or are you just going to change
the instruction entries to sets?
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Author: | bje | Posted: | Jun 17, 2020 13:00 | Subject: | Re: Pickable Models and In-Store Builds | Viewed: | 43 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| Looks like things are changing around here. Behold what we approved today:
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Whoot! Can I resubmit my pickable models from 2012 or are you just going to change
the instruction entries to sets?
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Author: | StormChaser | Posted: | Jun 17, 2020 12:49 | Subject: | Pickable Models and In-Store Builds | Viewed: | 115 times | Topic: | Catalog | Status: | Open | |
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| Looks like things are changing around here. Behold what we approved today:
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Author: | electricbaer | Posted: | Jun 16, 2020 23:54 | Subject: | Re: Sails still attached - qualify for entry? | Viewed: | 38 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
| I imagine it would make the most sense to have it be a part that's an assembly
of these parts:
Then, of course, the inventory of the assembly would consist of the 3 above parts.
David
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Agreed - and I definitely don't want to miss the opportunity to catalog them
still attached like this - as I'll wager there's not many of these left
still intact like this (aside from the few and far between sealed sets for this
set).
This definitely ranks at the top for one of the rarest discoveries I've had
in a used pile. That and a 10123 set with all the factory bags still sealed
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Author: | crazylegoman | Posted: | Jun 16, 2020 23:44 | Subject: | Re: Sails still attached - qualify for entry? | Viewed: | 32 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| I imagine it would make the most sense to have it be a part that's an assembly
of these parts:
Then, of course, the inventory of the assembly would consist of the 3 above parts.
David
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Author: | starbeanie | Posted: | Jun 16, 2020 23:22 | Subject: | Re: Sails still attached - qualify for entry? | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Sweet!!!!
In Catalog, electricbaer writes:
| I've come across this rare gem - A full, uncut set of sails from the Carribbean
Clipper, still attached, never used. Well, obviously I'd classify this particular
one as used as I found it floating around in a box of parts. But anyway, I don't
see a catalog entry for the sails still being attached. I'd be happy to
submit them as an entry if they are quantifiable. I'd plan to straighten
them before posting a pic - They're still a tad bit wrinkly from taking a
bath, I mean, they are 31 years old
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Author: | electricbaer | Posted: | Jun 16, 2020 20:44 | Subject: | Sails still attached - qualify for entry? | Viewed: | 93 times | Topic: | Catalog | Status: | Open | |
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| I've come across this rare gem - A full, uncut set of sails from the Carribbean
Clipper, still attached, never used. Well, obviously I'd classify this particular
one as used as I found it floating around in a box of parts. But anyway, I don't
see a catalog entry for the sails still being attached. I'd be happy to
submit them as an entry if they are quantifiable. I'd plan to straighten
them before posting a pic - They're still a tad bit wrinkly from taking a
bath, I mean, they are 31 years old
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | Jun 16, 2020 18:43 | Subject: | Re: incorrect or missing known colour | Viewed: | 29 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| In Catalog, Fragty writes:
| Come to think of it...it's even remarkable that stickered parts from idea
books are in the catalog.
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| Maybe because these particular ones (bill and mary)
are so iconic that they deserve a spot in the catalog?
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They should not be in the catalog. I faced some pushback when suggesting they
be removed, though. The only reason given was "historical reasons."
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What pushback? These should obviously not be in the catalog.
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Author: | StormChaser | Posted: | Jun 16, 2020 11:31 | Subject: | Re: incorrect or missing known colour | Viewed: | 46 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Fragty writes:
| Come to think of it...it's even remarkable that stickered parts from idea
books are in the catalog.
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| Maybe because these particular ones (bill and mary)
are so iconic that they deserve a spot in the catalog?
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They should not be in the catalog. I faced some pushback when suggesting they
be removed, though. The only reason given was "historical reasons."
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Author: | Fragty | Posted: | Jun 16, 2020 10:29 | Subject: | Re: incorrect or missing known colour | Viewed: | 25 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Come to think of it...it's even remarkable that stickered parts from idea
books are in the catalog. Maybe because these particular ones (bill and mary)
are so iconic that they deserve a spot in the catalog?
I wonder if there are more in the catalog...
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Author: | Fragty | Posted: | Jun 16, 2020 10:22 | Subject: | Re: incorrect or missing known colour | Viewed: | 29 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, beasville writes:
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This part has 1 known colour listed: white. But the only picture is of this part
in red. This torso is found in one part, that part is also listed as white.
Could an additional known colour of red be added? The Torso assembly would be
red torso, red arms, red hands.
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Imo we shouldnt, because this is actually a misplaced sticker so its more or
less a custom item. If you gonna add that to the catalog, you would have to
add every misplaced sticker, and since you can place stickers everywhere there
will be no end...
The part you mention is sold by one store, and thats his picture too I believe.
btw There is a picture of the white version, but its the torso assembly
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Author: | beasville | Posted: | Jun 16, 2020 09:55 | Subject: | incorrect or missing known colour | Viewed: | 84 times | Topic: | Catalog | Status: | Open | |
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This part has 1 known colour listed: white. But the only picture is of this part
in red. This torso is found in one part, that part is also listed as white.
Could an additional known colour of red be added? The Torso assembly would be
red torso, red arms, red hands.
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Author: | tonnic | Posted: | Jun 16, 2020 04:29 | Subject: | Re: Tubes baseplates from the 70's vs newer ones | Viewed: | 30 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, novabrick writes:
| In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
| All the baseplates from the 70's, which I have from original sets, have different
tubes (do you call them tubes?) compared with newer baseplates. I do not know
when this chance took place, but is it worth to add a note for these baseplates
as they come in different variations?
It would be a lot of work making pictures aspecially with all the baseplates
with white dots and I certainly do not have them all.
On the attached picture is a example from set 648-1. On the right the original
one from the 70's and on the left a newer one.
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It's true though we have similar looking undersides like this with sharp
edges around the hole and more curved ones.
I have the suspision they cut smaller baseplates from bigger ones. at least I
have seen plenty of edges that look cut. But this might be a custom job from
the people we bought it from.
Christian
novabrick-team
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They are cut of a larger in factory, cut to the size that was needed.
That is why older baseplates may have the whiter looking stressmarks.
I always mention this in my description so buyers know what they buy.
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Author: | primadeluxe | Posted: | Jun 16, 2020 04:02 | Subject: | Re: Tubes baseplates from the 70's vs newer ones | Viewed: | 23 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Ok, I have submitted a request for this part 3865.
In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
| (do you call them tubes?)
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I would say underside indentions.
| is it worth to add a note for these baseplates
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I would say it wouldn't hurt anything.
| as they come in different variations?
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I would agree.
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Author: | StormChaser | Posted: | Jun 16, 2020 03:43 | Subject: | Re: Tubes baseplates from the 70's vs newer ones | Viewed: | 40 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
| (do you call them tubes?)
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I would say underside indentions.
| is it worth to add a note for these baseplates
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I would say it wouldn't hurt anything.
| as they come in different variations?
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I would agree.
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Author: | novabrick | Posted: | Jun 16, 2020 01:39 | Subject: | Re: Tubes baseplates from the 70's vs newer ones | Viewed: | 39 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
| All the baseplates from the 70's, which I have from original sets, have different
tubes (do you call them tubes?) compared with newer baseplates. I do not know
when this chance took place, but is it worth to add a note for these baseplates
as they come in different variations?
It would be a lot of work making pictures aspecially with all the baseplates
with white dots and I certainly do not have them all.
On the attached picture is a example from set 648-1. On the right the original
one from the 70's and on the left a newer one.
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It's true though we have similar looking undersides like this with sharp
edges around the hole and more curved ones.
I have the suspision they cut smaller baseplates from bigger ones. at least I
have seen plenty of edges that look cut. But this might be a custom job from
the people we bought it from.
Christian
novabrick-team
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Author: | primadeluxe | Posted: | Jun 16, 2020 01:34 | Subject: | Tubes baseplates from the 70's vs newer ones | Viewed: | 125 times | Topic: | Catalog | Status: | Open | |
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| All the baseplates from the 70's, which I have from original sets, have different
tubes (do you call them tubes?) compared with newer baseplates. I do not know
when this chance took place, but is it worth to add a note for these baseplates
as they come in different variations?
It would be a lot of work making pictures aspecially with all the baseplates
with white dots and I certainly do not have them all.
On the attached picture is a example from set 648-1. On the right the original
one from the 70's and on the left a newer one.
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Author: | normann1974 | Posted: | Jun 15, 2020 17:44 | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | Viewed: | 31 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| So where do we go from here? Could the note for the two parts be updated?
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You're welcome to submit a request stating exactly what needs to be changed.
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I can't do this. IMHO, a decision about the future road of these two parts
(and any new parts needed to be made) must be made by admin, and I expect them
to make the necessary changes to the catalog. I have seen no traces of any final
decision made yet.
/Jan
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I'll make a request to have the notes changed, but splitting/new parts and
inventories I leave to others.
/Jan
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Author: | normann1974 | Posted: | Jun 15, 2020 17:36 | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | Viewed: | 40 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| So where do we go from here? Could the note for the two parts be updated?
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You're welcome to submit a request stating exactly what needs to be changed.
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I can't do this. IMHO, a decision about the future road of these two parts
(and any new parts needed to be made) must be made by admin, and I expect them
to make the necessary changes to the catalog. I have seen no traces of any final
decision made yet.
/Jan
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Author: | StormChaser | Posted: | Jun 15, 2020 13:04 | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| So where do we go from here? Could the note for the two parts be updated?
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You're welcome to submit a request stating exactly what needs to be changed.
| They (and some of the inventories containing the 6mm part) are clearly wrong now.
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Here I would suggest inventory change requests where appropriate.
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Author: | electricbaer | Posted: | Jun 15, 2020 12:08 | Subject: | Re: Can stickers over 2 parts be added? | Viewed: | 22 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SurplusParts writes:
| This is the dashboard sticker from
It is placed over 2 black arches 6005.
Can this placed in the catalogue as a stickered counterpart?
Asking as it is over 2 parts and not one it may not be.
Thanks
Douglas
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Yes, as I learned not too long ago and opened up the floodgates with additions
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Jun 15, 2020 12:01 | Subject: | Re: Tan Knit Sweater Minifig Torso (76382) | Viewed: | 31 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, DianeGronas writes:
| Tan Knit Sweater Minifig Torso (76382)
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As your first post was about PartDesigner, I’m guessing you’re asking for this
part to be added to Studio.
If that’s the case, the dedicated forum for Studio is https://forum.bricklink.com/
(red Studio icon on every page, “Builder Forum”).
But as you didn’t answer any of the other answers, I’m also guessing you won’t
read this answer either….
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Jun 15, 2020 12:01 | Subject: | Re: Sea Captain's White Hat (13553 / 31841) | Viewed: | 20 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, DianeGronas writes:
| Sea Captain's White Hat (13553 / 31841)
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As your first post was about PartDesigner, I’m guessing you’re asking for this
part to be added to Studio.
If that’s the case, the dedicated forum for Studio is https://forum.bricklink.com/
(red Studio icon on every page, “Builder Forum”).
But as you didn’t answer any of the other answers, I’m also guessing you won’t
read this answer either….
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Jun 15, 2020 12:00 | Subject: | Re: Sea Captain Torso (973 / 88585) | Viewed: | 21 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, DianeGronas writes:
| Sea Captain Torso (973 / 88585)
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As your first post was about PartDesigner, I’m guessing you’re asking for this
part to be added to Studio.
If that’s the case, the dedicated forum for Studio is https://forum.bricklink.com/
(red Studio icon on every page, “Builder Forum”).
But as you didn’t answer any of the other answers, I’m also guessing you won’t
read this answer either….
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Jun 15, 2020 12:00 | Subject: | Re: Captain Jones Minifig Torso (76382) | Viewed: | 18 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, DianeGronas writes:
| Captain Jones Minifig Torso (76382)
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As your first post was about PartDesigner, I’m guessing you’re asking for this
part to be added to Studio.
If that’s the case, the dedicated forum for Studio is https://forum.bricklink.com/
(red Studio icon on every page, “Builder Forum”).
But as you didn’t answer any of the other answers, I’m also guessing you won’t
read this answer either….
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