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 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Catalog, DianeGronas writes:
  Obi-Wan Kenobi Large Figure Head (21939)

As your first post was about PartDesigner, I’m guessing you’re asking for this
part to be added to Studio.
If that’s the case, the dedicated forum for Studio is https://forum.bricklink.com/
(red Studio icon on every page, “Builder Forum”).

But as you didn’t answer any of the other answers, I’m also guessing you won’t
read this answer either….
 Author: tonnic View Messages Posted By tonnic
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In Catalog, DianeGronas writes:

What is the meaning of all your forumposts?
They are no questions, at least not as I read them.
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In Catalog Requests, DianeGronas writes:
  Tan Knit Sweater Minifig Torso (76382)

Why are you starting loads of threads with no questions in?
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 Author: starbeanie View Messages Posted By starbeanie
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What is your question?
 
Part No: 21325pb01  Name: Large Figure Head Modified SW Obi-Wan Kenobi Pattern
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21325pb01 Large Figure Head Modified SW Obi-Wan Kenobi Pattern
Parts: Large Figure Part

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  Obi-Wan Kenobi Large Figure Head (21939)
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 Author: novabrick View Messages Posted By novabrick
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In Catalog Requests, DianeGronas writes:
  Obi-Wan Kenobi Large Figure Head (21939)

 
Part No: 21325pb01  Name: Large Figure Head Modified SW Obi-Wan Kenobi Pattern
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21325pb01 Large Figure Head Modified SW Obi-Wan Kenobi Pattern
Parts: Large Figure Part
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 Author: BricksThatStick View Messages Posted By BricksThatStick
 Posted: Jun 15, 2020 08:44
 Subject: Re: Unknown Minifigure head variation
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In Catalog, CTschumy writes:
  Hi

I have a head which I cannot locate on Bricklink. I can find it in the blocked
open stud version, but cannot locate the head with the hollow stud version.

The head has the lego stamp inside the top stud

Item number 3626bpb0435 is for the blocked open stud version

Help please

Thanks

Chris

It's just the case that it's not been added yet.

Feel free to submit it to the catalog as 3626cpb0435 and supply a picture if
you can.


If you need help with it please see this forum message:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1138517

or this one

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1085264

or watch this tutorial
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1191009

If you have any other questions let us know.

Many thanks,
Paul.
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Jun 15, 2020 07:53
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  Honestly, I'm tempted to merge them. There is little reason for this part
to be split over an excessively confusing difference that requires no less than
three comparison images.

And, of course, a fairly snarky additional note that is clearly the result of
frustration over sellers just not getting the difference (and blaming them for
the problem that BrickLink created).

I strongly object to this resolution. As SylvainLS points out, they are functionally
different, and IMHO they are not interchangable, and both as a buyer or seller,
I would care about the variant (as I do today).

I think a better resolution would be to rename part 88072 to 4623b (and keep
part number 88072 secondary), then make 4623 "undetermined arm length" and create
a new part 4623a for the 6 mm variant.

/Jan

Well this totally went in a direction I wasn't expecting! Interesting discovery,
Jan!

So where do we go from here? Could the note for the two parts be updated? They
(and some of the inventories containing the 6mm part) are clearly wrong now.

/Jan
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Jun 15, 2020 06:08
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  
It would be absolutely crazy to remove an entire theme such as Galaxy Squad from
both sets and minifigures, to rebrand the humans into a minifigure section called
Classic Space and the aliens into a completely different section called Aliens,
chuck all the sets in an unsorted Space section, but keep the name of the theme
alive in part names such as "Galaxy Squad Armor".

Oh, wait a minute ... that is exactly what BL is planning with XP.

More than ever minifigures need the correct numbering as that is the only link
to the theme within XP.

I think it goes without saying that I would never want to see Galaxy Squad humans
separated from Galaxy Sqaud Aliens so whatever happens they’d need to be grouped
together for sure be that under ‘gs’ or ‘sp’

Where it gets more difficult is with things like skeletons but as a general rule
I’d say plain skeletons remain under ’gen’ but if they are associated with a
pirate theme and wear pirate hat then they should probably be a ‘pi’ code whereas
if they came from a castle theme wearing armour or knight helmet then they should
be a ‘cas’ code but obviously a plain skeleton from a castle set should still
be ‘gen’ but what about this one: cas328 with the red eyes I’m not so sure ’cas’
or ‘gen’?

These codes seem to be placed correctly cas329, cas378

whereas many such as gen009, gen011, gen021, gen037, gen135, gen036 perhaps need
moving?

Then you have oddities like gen027 and gen147 that look almost the same but would
seem strange to separate under ‘hol’ and ‘twn’ so ‘gen’ would seem like the only
suitable option for these?

All in all its a bit of a nightmre to try and organise for the best
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
  No thoughts on this from anyone? It really must be just me then?

Item numbers for figures are a mess. We're working on it.

See this forum post for a poetically eloquent description of the mess:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1187433

Yes I can see it’s definitely a challenge especially since many minifg codes
have become well established with people even though they may not make too much
sense structure wise!

I guess the reason I asked was mainly because I could see some Ideas codes had
been changed to Ghostbuster codes whilst Dimensions Ghostbuster minifgs and the
Ideas Pirate minifigs hadn’t been altered in the same way?

Either way I guess there would need to be a rule of thumb on want constitutes
a minifig range being given its own theme code abbreviation. For instance do
you start giving the ghostbuster minifigs the ‘gb’ code when there are at least
8 minifigs in the range for example?

On the other hand if there are only 2 or 3 ghostbusters minifigs do they perhaps
always just start off with a miscellaneous code which might also include everything
from Santa to ET?

Do we also start to catalog things not necessarily by Legos themes but by what
the community itself classes as the best match for Space, Castle, Pirates etc...
with anything that does'nt fit among the established themes classed as miscellaneous?

For instance do you envisage that stuff like Galaxy Squad might come under space
‘sp’? instead of ‘gs’?

As a huge minifigure collector who categorizes their entire collection by the
BrickLink item numbers, I would not be in favor of any renumbering of huge swaths
of the BrickLink catalog as it stands. Small sections, okay, but not lumping
Galaxy Squad into the Classic Space figures, etc. I think having minifigures
classified according to the themes they occur in is how they should be classified
for now, and the catalog manages to currently do that relatively okay for the
majority of the minifigures.

But, once again, this gets back to the database design. We are stuck in a system
that only categorizes things in a flat manner, so moving large amounts of items
around, renumbering large amounts of items, etc., would cause a nightmare for
anyone and everyone involved.

Having a system that allowed tags on items would allow minifigures to be categorized
in more than one way and then all figures could just be given sequential codes
starting from figure000001 all the way up to however many figures there
are and then into the future. So figure009866 might be classified as "Space",
"Galaxy Squad", and "Alien", whereas figure013022 might be classified
as "Licensed", "Space", "Star Wars", and "Alien". No more thinking about how
to structure item numbers, no more worrying about what *specific* category a
minifigure should go in, no more having users even think about numbering since
the system could just assign the next figure number automatically! This is really
where the whole system needs to get to.

Cheers,
Randy

To be honest I don’t have too much concern about stuff like Galaxy Squad remaining
‘gs’ and was more interested in other people’s opinions of where we think it
might go though I would just say that if the system remained as it is we could
potentially run out of abbreviations if we continue to use them on every sub-theme
like this but I guess I have bigger issue with the minifigs from both the ‘dim’
and ‘idea’ categories taking precedence over existing categories which are better
suited for them because to me it’s a bit like categorising a Star Wars minifig
from an advent calendar as ‘adv’ or from polybag as ‘pol’ when it should still
be ‘sw’?

On the same token if it goes the way your suggesting then I guess that would
blow everything out the water all together and whilst it could work the only
real issue I would have is with the length of the codes which would also take
away the ability to memorize them for instance without even looking I know that
sw0707 is Yoda and are we going to have more instances where we end up forgetting
which minifig code we came to pick once at the storage location?

As the current system shows a small abbreviation of letters + number combos allows
for codes to be shorter and more memorable
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  As a huge minifigure collector who categorizes their entire collection by the
BrickLink item numbers, I would not be in favor of any renumbering of huge swaths
of the BrickLink catalog as it stands. Small sections, okay, but not lumping
Galaxy Squad into the Classic Space figures, etc. I think having minifigures
classified according to the themes they occur in is how they should be classified
for now, and the catalog manages to currently do that relatively okay for the
majority of the minifigures.


It would be absolutely crazy to remove an entire theme such as Galaxy Squad from
both sets and minifigures, to rebrand the humans into a minifigure section called
Classic Space and the aliens into a completely different section called Aliens,
chuck all the sets in an unsorted Space section, but keep the name of the theme
alive in part names such as "Galaxy Squad Armor".

Oh, wait a minute ... that is exactly what BL is planning with XP.

More than ever minifigures need the correct numbering as that is the only link
to the theme within XP.
 
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Hi

I have a head which I cannot locate on Bricklink. I can find it in the blocked
open stud version, but cannot locate the head with the hollow stud version.

The head has the lego stamp inside the top stud

Item number 3626bpb0435 is for the blocked open stud version

Help please

Thanks

Chris
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Hey!

I am busy putting duplo into my inventory and ran into this little airplane.

It is not in a condition i want to sell it in, so i looked if it could be demolished
to smaller parts. In my idea it contains some wheels i cannot find in the catalog
and wheel pins number 2344. Can it be parted out?


Regards, Marielle
 
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Thanks very much.

I have never seen that section of the catalogue before. You learn something
new every day.

I will add to the catalogue shortly when i get time.

Cheers

In Catalog, SurplusParts writes:
  This is the dashboard sticker from

 
Set No: 8169  Name: Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4
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8169-1 (Inv) Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4
741 Parts, 2009
Sets: Racers: Lamborghini

It is placed over 2 black arches 6005.

Can this placed in the catalogue as a stickered counterpart?

Asking as it is over 2 parts and not one it may not be.

Thanks
Douglas
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In Catalog, SurplusParts writes:
  Can this placed in the catalogue as a stickered counterpart?

Yes.
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In Catalog, SurplusParts writes:
  This is the dashboard sticker from

 
Set No: 8169  Name: Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4
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8169-1 (Inv) Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4
741 Parts, 2009
Sets: Racers: Lamborghini

It is placed over 2 black arches 6005.

Can this placed in the catalogue as a stickered counterpart?

Asking as it is over 2 parts and not one it may not be.

Thanks
Douglas

Category Sitcker Over Assembly. There are many parts already in that category.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?catType=P&catID=582
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This is the dashboard sticker from

 
Set No: 8169  Name: Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4
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8169-1 (Inv) Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4
741 Parts, 2009
Sets: Racers: Lamborghini

It is placed over 2 black arches 6005.

Can this placed in the catalogue as a stickered counterpart?

Asking as it is over 2 parts and not one it may not be.

Thanks
Douglas
 
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In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
  No thoughts on this from anyone? It really must be just me then?

Item numbers for figures are a mess. We're working on it.

See this forum post for a poetically eloquent description of the mess:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1187433

Yes I can see it’s definitely a challenge especially since many minifg codes
have become well established with people even though they may not make too much
sense structure wise!

I guess the reason I asked was mainly because I could see some Ideas codes had
been changed to Ghostbuster codes whilst Dimensions Ghostbuster minifgs and the
Ideas Pirate minifigs hadn’t been altered in the same way?

Either way I guess there would need to be a rule of thumb on want constitutes
a minifig range being given its own theme code abbreviation. For instance do
you start giving the ghostbuster minifigs the ‘gb’ code when there are at least
8 minifigs in the range for example?

On the other hand if there are only 2 or 3 ghostbusters minifigs do they perhaps
always just start off with a miscellaneous code which might also include everything
from Santa to ET?

Do we also start to catalog things not necessarily by Legos themes but by what
the community itself classes as the best match for Space, Castle, Pirates etc...
with anything that does'nt fit among the established themes classed as miscellaneous?

For instance do you envisage that stuff like Galaxy Squad might come under space
‘sp’? instead of ‘gs’?

As a huge minifigure collector who categorizes their entire collection by the
BrickLink item numbers, I would not be in favor of any renumbering of huge swaths
of the BrickLink catalog as it stands. Small sections, okay, but not lumping
Galaxy Squad into the Classic Space figures, etc. I think having minifigures
classified according to the themes they occur in is how they should be classified
for now, and the catalog manages to currently do that relatively okay for the
majority of the minifigures.

But, once again, this gets back to the database design. We are stuck in a system
that only categorizes things in a flat manner, so moving large amounts of items
around, renumbering large amounts of items, etc., would cause a nightmare for
anyone and everyone involved.

Having a system that allowed tags on items would allow minifigures to be categorized
in more than one way and then all figures could just be given sequential codes
starting from figure000001 all the way up to however many figures there
are and then into the future. So figure009866 might be classified as "Space",
"Galaxy Squad", and "Alien", whereas figure013022 might be classified
as "Licensed", "Space", "Star Wars", and "Alien". No more thinking about how
to structure item numbers, no more worrying about what *specific* category a
minifigure should go in, no more having users even think about numbering since
the system could just assign the next figure number automatically! This is really
where the whole system needs to get to.

Cheers,
Randy
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
  No thoughts on this from anyone? It really must be just me then?

Item numbers for figures are a mess. We're working on it.

See this forum post for a poetically eloquent description of the mess:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1187433

Yes I can see it’s definitely a challenge especially since many minifg codes
have become well established with people even though they may not make too much
sense structure wise!

I guess the reason I asked was mainly because I could see some Ideas codes had
been changed to Ghostbuster codes whilst Dimensions Ghostbuster minifgs and the
Ideas Pirate minifigs hadn’t been altered in the same way?

Either way I guess there would need to be a rule of thumb on want constitutes
a minifig range being given its own theme code abbreviation. For instance do
you start giving the ghostbuster minifigs the ‘gb’ code when there are at least
8 minifigs in the range for example?

On the other hand if there are only 2 or 3 ghostbusters minifigs do they perhaps
always just start off with a miscellaneous code which might also include everything
from Santa to ET?

Do we also start to catalog things not necessarily by Legos themes but by what
the community itself classes as the best match for Space, Castle, Pirates etc...
with anything that does'nt fit among the established themes classed as miscellaneous?

For instance do you envisage that stuff like Galaxy Squad might come under space
‘sp’? instead of ‘gs’?
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In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
  No thoughts on this from anyone? It really must be just me then?

Item numbers for figures are a mess. We're working on it.

See this forum post for a poetically eloquent description of the mess:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1187433
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In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
  In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
  I don't know if its just me but with regards to the ideas and dimensions
themes would'nt it make sense to only give minifigures the 'idea'
and 'dim' codes if they don't already belong to an established and
existing theme? For instance all the Ideas Pirates of Barracuda Bay minifigs
should perhaps be given 'pi' numbers instead of 'idea' numbers?
Likewise dimensions Gimli, Gandalf, Legolas should maybe have a 'lor'
number instead of 'dim' same goes for Slimer and Stay Puft Marshmallow
man which also have 'dim' numbers instead of 'gb'

With the original ghostbusters minifigs from Ecto-1 it looks like they were already
changed from 'idea' numbers to 'gb' numbers with an i on the
end which might be a good way to keep some continuity on the site?

No thoughts on this from anyone? It really must be just me then?

I guess no one sort by ID….

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