Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | randyf  | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 17:08 | | Subject: | Re: two versions of part 970c00pb0052 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | | | | | My guess is that it hasn't been discovered yet that there is a bright green
version, so all the figures with it are being inventoried as having the lime
version.
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All of the parts of the minifig appear to have bright green print, not lime
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Which leads me to believe that there are two versions of Buzz and all his parts:
Lime and Bright Green. Which sets each came in I have no idea.
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The bright green print may have come from the magnet gear set
* |  | 852949 (Inv) Magnet Set, Minifigures Toy Story (3) - Woody, Alien, Buzz Lightyear - with 2 x 4 Brick Bases blister pack
Gear: Magnet: Toy Story |
Those were made in China, I believe, and could possibly have had poor quality
control.
I have not seen a Buzz with anything but lime print, but all of the ones I have
came from the real Toy Story sets.
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| Author: | Hamster_Prod | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 17:01 | | Subject: | Re: Who decides the minifig item No? | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
| | In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
| | In Catalog, WoutR writes:
| | In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
| | Hi,
This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?
For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)
As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.
So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?
I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!
Thanks in advance,
Josh
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See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168
on item numbers
and https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
on adding items to the catalog
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Ah, thanks. That explains it. So it comes from the order in which folks on bricklink
added it to the catalogue. I guess for most categories it is basically the order
in which the figures were released.
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I think the catalogers try to follow the set number too. So for "lord of the
rings" the first set number in that theme
has the first two "lor" figure numbers
and the next set
has the next three "lor" figure numbers.
However, there are probably scenarios where the sets aren't cataloged in
the same order as their sequential set number, but I think this is a loose goal.
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Interesting point, thanks! One of the things that threw me off is the Adventurers
line is catalogued in alphabetical order and completely ignores release date.
I guess this was all done in one go at some point after everything had already
been released.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 16:56 | | Subject: | Re: Who decides the minifig item No? | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
| | I think the catalogers try to follow the set number too. So for "lord of the
rings" the first set number in that theme
has the first two "lor" figure numbers
and the next set
has the next three "lor" figure numbers.
However, there are probably scenarios where the sets aren't cataloged in
the same order as their sequential set number, but I think this is a loose goal.
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Nope. That is just the order that the inventories for the sets were added to
the catalog. If the largest LotR set would have been inventoried first, it would
have had the minifigures with the first minifigure numbers in the theme. Like
someone said earlier, it is mostly up to fate (i.e. what minfigures get added
first to the catalog based on which sets are getting inventoried first).
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| Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 16:33 | | Subject: | Re: two versions of part 970c00pb0052 | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | | | My guess is that it hasn't been discovered yet that there is a bright green
version, so all the figures with it are being inventoried as having the lime
version.
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All of the parts of the minifig appear to have bright green print, not lime
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Which leads me to believe that there are two versions of Buzz and all his parts:
Lime and Bright Green. Which sets each came in I have no idea.
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| Author: | Cob | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 16:27 | | Subject: | Re: two versions of part 970c00pb0052 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | Not sure how to go about this, but part
needs to be broken up into 2 separate entries. Currently we only have one for
a lime printing. I have been listing legs recently and came across 4 of these
legs. Three of them had lime printing, the fourth has bright green printing(verified
as Lego). Searching for "Buzz Lightyear" figures, I came across minifig toy004
from which the picture seems to show bright green printing, yet inventory says
it has the legs with lime print.
My guess is that it hasn't been discovered yet that there is a bright green
version, so all the figures with it are being inventoried as having the lime
version.
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All of the parts of the minifig appear to have bright green print, not lime.
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| Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 16:17 | | Subject: | two versions of part 970c00pb0052 | | Viewed: | 86 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Not sure how to go about this, but part
needs to be broken up into 2 separate entries. Currently we only have one for
a lime printing. I have been listing legs recently and came across 4 of these
legs. Three of them had lime printing, the fourth has bright green printing(verified
as Lego). Searching for "Buzz Lightyear" figures, I came across minifig toy004
from which the picture seems to show bright green printing, yet inventory says
it has the legs with lime print.
My guess is that it hasn't been discovered yet that there is a bright green
version, so all the figures with it are being inventoried as having the lime
version.
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| Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 14:01 | | Subject: | Re: Who decides the minifig item No? | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
| | In Catalog, WoutR writes:
| | In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
| | Hi,
This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?
For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)
As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.
So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?
I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!
Thanks in advance,
Josh
|
See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168
on item numbers
and https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
on adding items to the catalog
|
Ah, thanks. That explains it. So it comes from the order in which folks on bricklink
added it to the catalogue. I guess for most categories it is basically the order
in which the figures were released.
|
I think the catalogers try to follow the set number too. So for "lord of the
rings" the first set number in that theme
has the first two "lor" figure numbers
and the next set
has the next three "lor" figure numbers.
However, there are probably scenarios where the sets aren't cataloged in
the same order as their sequential set number, but I think this is a loose goal.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 13:41 | | Subject: | Re: Who decides the minifig item No? | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
I guess for most categories it is basically the order
| | in which the figures were released.
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Roughly, yes.
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| Author: | Hamster_Prod | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 13:40 | | Subject: | Re: Who decides the minifig item No? | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, WoutR writes:
| | In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
| | Hi,
This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?
For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)
As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.
So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?
I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!
Thanks in advance,
Josh
|
See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168
on item numbers
and https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
on adding items to the catalog
|
Ah, thanks. That explains it. So it comes from the order in which folks on bricklink
added it to the catalogue. I guess for most categories it is basically the order
in which the figures were released.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 13:31 | | Subject: | Re: Who decides the minifig item No? | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| But to answer more fully, the numbers you see here are Bricklink's. I have
seen them used on eBay because Bricklink is the preeminent catalog. I assume
Brickowl has their own system, but perhaps they follow us.
In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
| | Hi,
This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?
For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)
As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.
So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?
I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!
Thanks in advance,
Josh
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No one decides but fate. When you are naming a new minifig, you use the next
number available.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 13:29 | | Subject: | Re: Who decides the minifig item No? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
| | Hi,
This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?
For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)
As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.
So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?
I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!
Thanks in advance,
Josh
|
See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168
on item numbers
and https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
on adding items to the catalog
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 13:29 | | Subject: | Re: Who decides the minifig item No? | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
| | Hi,
This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?
For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)
As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.
So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?
I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!
Thanks in advance,
Josh
|
No one decides but fate. When you are naming a new minifig, you use the next
number available.
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| Author: | Hamster_Prod | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2020 13:23 | | Subject: | Who decides the minifig item No? | | Viewed: | 140 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Hi,
This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?
For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)
As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.
So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?
I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!
Thanks in advance,
Josh
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 11:46 | | Subject: | Re: New Relationship Match | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, hpoort writes:
| | Is there a flag you can set so that this relation type also shows up at catalog
item pages like other relations?
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No. Frankly, I'm not sure why we need one. Every item on the list should
have, at a minimum, an additional note and preferably also a comparison image.
So specifying on an individual catalog entry itself that a part is flagged as
a part variant is unnecessary.
| | Or is this up to admin Russell to get a developer onto this?
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If there were a developer on it, we would not have needed to use the relationship
match in this way. 
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 11:29 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.
|
Gots to be honest with you, I'm still wondering. Can you post an image of
the two parts attached side by side on a 1 x 4 plate (any color)?
Just want to be certain since this part was released (according to our timeline)
five years after the LBG colour change.
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In my opinion, the additional notes are not best used to admonish sellers in
a patronizing and condescending tone.
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More criticism for the catalog admin team, I see.
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In this case, I think the criticism was justified.
I am happy to see that the Additional notes were updated.
[p=88072]
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| Author: | tonnic | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 08:20 | | Subject: | Re: SOA part in 5541 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, electricbaer writes:
| | In Catalog, tonnic writes:
| | In Catalog, electricbaer writes:
| | I have the small stickers that fit over the blue 6541 and the blue 4070 to this
set as they are applied in the first model. However in the alternate build for
this set, they look to be applied to a 1 x 6 brick.
Do they qualify to be added as a SOA part, and also as a brick decorated part
to the catalog, or are they nullified from being added since they can be applied
in multiple configurations in this set?
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You do not want to know what SOA means in the Netherlands.
I understand this is the best way to make the description short but the association
is grose.
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Welp, curiosity always had to kill the cat. You know I had to go search it after
you told me what I didn't want to know 
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Don’t say I didn’t warn you!
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| Author: | electricbaer | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 08:18 | | Subject: | Re: SOA part in 5541 | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, tonnic writes:
| | In Catalog, electricbaer writes:
| | I have the small stickers that fit over the blue 6541 and the blue 4070 to this
set as they are applied in the first model. However in the alternate build for
this set, they look to be applied to a 1 x 6 brick.
Do they qualify to be added as a SOA part, and also as a brick decorated part
to the catalog, or are they nullified from being added since they can be applied
in multiple configurations in this set?
|
You do not want to know what SOA means in the Netherlands.
I understand this is the best way to make the description short but the association
is grose.
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Welp, curiosity always had to kill the cat. You know I had to go search it after
you told me what I didn't want to know
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| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 06:58 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.
|
Gots to be honest with you, I'm still wondering. Can you post an image of
the two parts attached side by side on a 1 x 4 plate (any color)?
Just want to be certain since this part was released (according to our timeline)
five years after the LBG colour change.
|
In my opinion, the additional notes are not best used to admonish sellers in
a patronizing and condescending tone.
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More criticism for the catalog admin team, I see.
|
An admin appears to agree that the additional notes are "fairly snarky" out of
"frustration over sellers just not getting the difference."
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1202493
In my opinion, since users aiming their frustration at admins is discouraged,
admins using the catalog to aim their frustrations at sellers should also be
discouraged.
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| Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 06:55 | | Subject: | Re: New Relationship Match | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
Nice way to see them in one list
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| Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 06:50 | | Subject: | Re: New Relationship Match | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
Great idea to do it this way.
Is there a flag you can set so that this relation type also shows up at catalog
item pages like other relations? Or is this up to admin Russell to get a developer
onto this?
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| Author: | tonnic | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 04:20 | | Subject: | Re: SOA part in 5541 | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, electricbaer writes:
| | I have the small stickers that fit over the blue 6541 and the blue 4070 to this
set as they are applied in the first model. However in the alternate build for
this set, they look to be applied to a 1 x 6 brick.
Do they qualify to be added as a SOA part, and also as a brick decorated part
to the catalog, or are they nullified from being added since they can be applied
in multiple configurations in this set?
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You do not want to know what SOA means in the Netherlands.
I understand this is the best way to make the description short but the association
is grose.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 02:46 | | Subject: | Re: SOA part in 5541 | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, electricbaer writes:
| | I have the small stickers that fit over the blue 6541 and the blue 4070 to this
set as they are applied in the first model. However in the alternate build for
this set, they look to be applied to a 1 x 6 brick.
Do they qualify to be added as a SOA part, and also as a brick decorated part
to the catalog, or are they nullified from being added since they can be applied
in multiple configurations in this set?
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They do qualify and can be added.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 02:45 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 86 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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BrickLink
ID CardAdmin_Russell
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Location:  USA, California |
| Member Since |
Contact |
Type |
Status |
| May 9, 2017 |
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Admin |
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| BrickLink Administrator |
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| In Catalog, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.
|
Gots to be honest with you, I'm still wondering. Can you post an image of
the two parts attached side by side on a 1 x 4 plate (any color)?
Just want to be certain since this part was released (according to our timeline)
five years after the LBG colour change.
|
In my opinion, the additional notes are not best used to admonish sellers in
a patronizing and condescending tone.
|
More criticism for the catalog admin team, I see.
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| Author: | jbroman | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2020 01:12 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, 62Bricks writes:
| | In my opinion, the additional notes are not best used to admonish sellers in
a patronizing and condescending tone.
|
Instead of "Please be wary of the difference...", it would be better to have
"Please be aware of the difference..."
Wary means feeling or showing caution about possible dangers or problems.
Aware means knowing that something exists, or having knowledge or experience
of a particular thing.
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| Author: | electricbaer | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 23:35 | | Subject: | SOA part in 5541 | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| I have the small stickers that fit over the blue 6541 and the blue 4070 to this
set as they are applied in the first model. However in the alternate build for
this set, they look to be applied to a 1 x 6 brick.
Do they qualify to be added as a SOA part, and also as a brick decorated part
to the catalog, or are they nullified from being added since they can be applied
in multiple configurations in this set?
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 22:58 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I strongly object to this resolution.
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| | both as a buyer or seller, I would care about the variant
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I don't care whatsoever about this variant difference (personally, as opposed
to in any official capacity). Wouldn't it be great if BrickLink handled
variants in a way that would serve you and I equally well?
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 21:13 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Legoboy_II writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | | | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
When and why did you stop beating your wife?
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| | | | In Catalog, Legoboy_II writes:
I think you owe the Community a sincere apology for
such a personal and unwarranted attack against my
deceased wife, whom you didn't even know and had
absolutely no reason to drag into your argument.
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I’m not sure this is serious due to the way it’s worded but if I owe an apology,
I’d sincerely apologize to you, your wife’s memory, and her family and friends
for having mentioned an hypothetical wife of yours in a rhetorical argument and
triggered painful memories of a dearly departed.
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Seriously!? While I have never committed the most heinous and vile crime you
accuse me of, as an LEO and EMS responder, I have seen more than my fair share
of domestic violence. I find your willingness to use such imagery as a comedic
prop, repugnant.
| | | | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | I believe that was a rhetorical question meant as an example to show that the
questions that were being asked were not really relevant when there is an even
bigger underlying problem that is not being addressed.
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It’s also a trap question that can’t be answered without verifying (making true)
the tacit premise (asking about circumstances of something stopping implies the
something existed).
Did you stop eating snails?
— Yes ≫ Yuck! You ate snails.
— No ≫ Yuck! You’re still eating snails.
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The fact your patently false statements, and lack of remorse, are endorsed by
TLG administration, is disconcerting, as well.
Fortunately, I am an extendedly tolerant man and personally unfazed by such attacks,
I only bother to address this matter because you both have offended the honor
of a person I continue to hold in the highest regard, who never sinned against
either of you, and who didn't deserve to be disparaged. Your follies to falsely
hold out a kind and gentle soul, as a victim of a true social ill, only diminish
the voice of the real victims of abuse.
Shame on you both!
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Please do not continue to include me in this. The fact that you are assuming
that I condoned the behavior is insulting and offensive to me.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 21:04 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | The catalog for this part is now officially a mess, and an admin need to work
on fixing this.
|
Honestly, I'm tempted to merge them. There is little reason for this part
to be split over an excessively confusing difference that requires no less than
three comparison images.
And, of course, a fairly snarky additional note that is clearly the result of
frustration over sellers just not getting the difference (and blaming them for
the problem that BrickLink created).
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I strongly object to this resolution. As SylvainLS points out, they are functionally
different, and IMHO they are not interchangable, and both as a buyer or seller,
I would care about the variant (as I do today).
I think a better resolution would be to rename part 88072 to 4623b (and keep
part number 88072 secondary), then make 4623 "undetermined arm length" and create
a new part 4623a for the 6 mm variant.
/Jan
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Well this totally went in a direction I wasn't expecting! Interesting discovery,
Jan!
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 21:02 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Legoboy_II writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Legoboy_II writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| |
When and why did you stop beating your wife?
|
I think you owe the Community a sincere apology for
such a personal and unwarranted attack against my
deceased wife, whom you didn't even know and had
absolutely no reason to drag into your argument.
|
I believe that was a rhetorical question meant as an example to show that the
questions that were being asked were not really relevant when there is an even
bigger underlying problem that is not being addressed.
|
I cannot believe you would defend such reprehensible behaviour... if that were
the point, there are less personal ways of making it.
|
Hold on now. I did not say that I was defending it or that I thought it was a
tactful example. I was just explaining what I *thought* they meant by it.
|
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| Author: | Legoboy_II | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 20:29 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | | | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
When and why did you stop beating your wife?
|
| | | | In Catalog, Legoboy_II writes:
I think you owe the Community a sincere apology for
such a personal and unwarranted attack against my
deceased wife, whom you didn't even know and had
absolutely no reason to drag into your argument.
|
|
I’m not sure this is serious due to the way it’s worded but if I owe an apology,
I’d sincerely apologize to you, your wife’s memory, and her family and friends
for having mentioned an hypothetical wife of yours in a rhetorical argument and
triggered painful memories of a dearly departed.
|
Seriously!? While I have never committed the most heinous and vile crime you
accuse me of, as an LEO and EMS responder, I have seen more than my fair share
of domestic violence. I find your willingness to use such imagery as a comedic
prop, repugnant.
| | | | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | I believe that was a rhetorical question meant as an example to show that the
questions that were being asked were not really relevant when there is an even
bigger underlying problem that is not being addressed.
|
|
It’s also a trap question that can’t be answered without verifying (making true)
the tacit premise (asking about circumstances of something stopping implies the
something existed).
Did you stop eating snails?
— Yes ≫ Yuck! You ate snails.
— No ≫ Yuck! You’re still eating snails.
|
The fact your patently false statements, and lack of remorse, are endorsed by
TLG administration, is disconcerting, as well.
Fortunately, I am an extendedly tolerant man and personally unfazed by such attacks,
I only bother to address this matter because you both have offended the honor
of a person I continue to hold in the highest regard, who never sinned against
either of you, and who didn't deserve to be disparaged. Your follies to falsely
hold out a kind and gentle soul, as a victim of a true social ill, only diminish
the voice of the real victims of abuse.
Shame on you both!
|
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 19:36 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | […]
Ah, I remember having trouble identifying the variants I had when I got out of
my Dark Ages. I thought I was holding them wrong and trusted the catalogue(s)
As with all my old parts, the “Antiques” (pre-Dark Ages) are stored separately.
So, I have 3 Black and 1 LG SHORT 4623 (and 3 Black and 2 White long ones).
They come from
Yes, one Black is missing, I have to hunt it down.
|
Found it. And he’s a shorty.
So, 4 short, 3 long in Black. That may mean 6011 was a long. Or it might not.
|
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 19:34 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | The catalog for this part is now officially a mess, and an admin need to work
on fixing this.
|
Honestly, I'm tempted to merge them. There is little reason for this part
to be split over an excessively confusing difference that requires no less than
three comparison images.
And, of course, a fairly snarky additional note that is clearly the result of
frustration over sellers just not getting the difference (and blaming them for
the problem that BrickLink created).
|
I strongly object to this resolution. As SylvainLS points out, they are functionally
different, and IMHO they are not interchangable, and both as a buyer or seller,
I would care about the variant (as I do today).
I think a better resolution would be to rename part 88072 to 4623b (and keep
part number 88072 secondary), then make 4623 "undetermined arm length" and create
a new part 4623a for the 6 mm variant.
/Jan
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 19:25 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | The catalog for this part is now officially a mess, and an admin need to work
on fixing this.
|
Honestly, I'm tempted to merge them. There is little reason for this part
to be split over an excessively confusing difference that requires no less than
three comparison images.
|
But but but, they are functionnaly different! 
|
Merging the entries will of course rid the admins of any more problems, but only
by handing them off to the users.
The parts are not always interchangeable. The assembly below from set 6398, for
example, requires the 6mm version. Elsewhere in the set, a white one is used
as a hook for a helmet. It is possible to use the 5mm version for that one, but
the helmet has to be pushed into place and it stresses the parts.
|
|
|
| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 19:09 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | The catalog for this part is now officially a mess, and an admin need to work
on fixing this.
|
Honestly, I'm tempted to merge them. There is little reason for this part
to be split over an excessively confusing difference that requires no less than
three comparison images.
|
But but but, they are functionnaly different!
| | And, of course, a fairly snarky additional note that is clearly the result of
frustration over sellers just not getting the difference (and blaming them for
the problem that BrickLink created).
|
|
|
| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 19:08 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | | | I have several light gray with the shorter arm. They are light gray, not yellowed
LBG, and they are marked 4623.
|
Ouch, I just checked all 5mm versions that I currently have for sale. I found
one blue and about half of my black ones (13) bearing mold number 4623. I can
therefore conclude that mold number 4623 was used for both versions of this part
(I have checked the 6mm versions also, they also bear this number).
I ought to have seen this already this a month ago when I was double-checking
the contents of my childhood sets. Those sets have been mixed together, but for
my mid-80's castle sets, I was wondering why all of them had 5 mm versions
when the inventories stated they had to be 6 mm. Not a single 6 mm found among
those sets. So I replaced the parts with 6 mm versions believing this was the
right thing to do. But now I know why I didn't find the 6 mm art in them.
The 5 mm version was apparently already in use during the 80's with the same
mold number.
The catalog for this part is now officially a mess, and an admin need to work
on fixing this. Sorry to be the messenger. 
|
Ah, I remember having trouble identifying the variants I had when I got out of
my Dark Ages. I thought I was holding them wrong and trusted the catalogue(s)
As with all my old parts, the “Antiques” (pre-Dark Ages) are stored separately.
So, I have 3 Black and 1 LG SHORT 4623 (and 3 Black and 2 White long ones).
They come from
Yes, one Black is missing, I have to hunt it down.
|
|
| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 19:03 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | The catalog for this part is now officially a mess, and an admin need to work
on fixing this.
|
Honestly, I'm tempted to merge them. There is little reason for this part
to be split over an excessively confusing difference that requires no less than
three comparison images.
And, of course, a fairly snarky additional note that is clearly the result of
frustration over sellers just not getting the difference (and blaming them for
the problem that BrickLink created).
|
|
| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 17:56 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| | | I have several light gray with the shorter arm. They are light gray, not yellowed
LBG, and they are marked 4623.
|
Ouch, I just checked all 5mm versions that I currently have for sale. I found
one blue and about half of my black ones (13) bearing mold number 4623. I can
therefore conclude that mold number 4623 was used for both versions of this part
(I have checked the 6mm versions also, they also bear this number).
I ought to have seen this already this a month ago when I was double-checking
the contents of my childhood sets. Those sets have been mixed together, but for
my mid-80's castle sets, I was wondering why all of them had 5 mm versions
when the inventories stated they had to be 6 mm. Not a single 6 mm found among
those sets. So I replaced the parts with 6 mm versions believing this was the
right thing to do. But now I know why I didn't find the 6 mm art in them.
The 5 mm version was apparently already in use during the 80's with the same
mold number.
The catalog for this part is now officially a mess, and an admin need to work
on fixing this. Sorry to be the messenger.
/Jan
|
|
| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 16:55 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Legoboy_II writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| |
When and why did you stop beating your wife?
|
I think you owe the Community a sincere apology for
such a personal and unwarranted attack against my
deceased wife, whom you didn't even know and had
absolutely no reason to drag into your argument.
|
|
I’m not sure this is serious due to the way it’s worded but if I owe an apology,
I’d sincerely apologize to you, your wife’s memory, and her family and friends
for having mentioned an hypothetical wife of yours in a rhetorical argument and
triggered painful memories of a dearly departed.
| | I believe that was a rhetorical question meant as an example to show that the
questions that were being asked were not really relevant when there is an even
bigger underlying problem that is not being addressed.
|
It’s also a trap question that can’t be answered without verifying (making true)
the tacit premise (asking about circumstances of something stopping implies the
something existed).
Did you stop eating snails?
— Yes ≫ Yuck! You ate snails.
— No ≫ Yuck! You’re still eating snails.
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 16:45 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.
|
Gots to be honest with you, I'm still wondering. Can you post an image of
the two parts attached side by side on a 1 x 4 plate (any color)?
Just want to be certain since this part was released (according to our timeline)
five years after the LBG colour change.
|
In my opinion, the additional notes are not best used to admonish sellers in
a patronizing and condescending tone.
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 16:38 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | | | I can see a bit of light bluish gray around the base of one of the studs on the
part you are saying is light gray. I believe you have a damaged light bluish
gray part that has been yellowed. I find it *very* hard to believe that this
mold would have been used to make parts in a color that had been retired for
*years* before the mold was ever even manufactured.
|
I am not convinced that there is any LBG on this part. I have checked under magnifyning
glass, it has to be some lighting issue. The color is the same on all sides,
even inside. What's even stranger: I've just seen (in the magnifying
glass), that the mold number says 4623, but it's not a 6 mm arm, it's
5 mm (see another attached image).
Could this be a prototype of the upcoming 5 mm change back in the days?
/Jan
|
I have several light gray with the shorter arm. They are light gray, not yellowed
LBG, and they are marked 4623.
|
|
| Author: | Legoboy_II | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 16:37 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Legoboy_II writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| |
When and why did you stop beating your wife?
|
I think you owe the Community a sincere apology for
such a personal and unwarranted attack against my
deceased wife, whom you didn't even know and had
absolutely no reason to drag into your argument.
|
I believe that was a rhetorical question meant as an example to show that the
questions that were being asked were not really relevant when there is an even
bigger underlying problem that is not being addressed.
|
I cannot believe you would defend such reprehensible behaviour... if that were
the point, there are less personal ways of making it.
|
|
| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 16:10 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| | | I can see a bit of light bluish gray around the base of one of the studs on the
part you are saying is light gray. I believe you have a damaged light bluish
gray part that has been yellowed. I find it *very* hard to believe that this
mold would have been used to make parts in a color that had been retired for
*years* before the mold was ever even manufactured.
|
I am not convinced that there is any LBG on this part. I have checked under magnifyning
glass, it has to be some lighting issue. The color is the same on all sides,
even inside. What's even stranger: I've just seen (in the magnifying
glass), that the mold number says 4623, but it's not a 6 mm arm, it's
5 mm (see another attached image).
Could this be a prototype of the upcoming 5 mm change back in the days?
/Jan
|
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 16:03 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.
|
Gots to be honest with you, I'm still wondering. Can you post an image of
the two parts attached side by side on a 1 x 4 plate (any color)?
Just want to be certain since this part was released (according to our timeline)
five years after the LBG colour change.
|
Certainly. But a 1x4 plate? What does that accomplish, and from which angle do
you want it?
/Jan
|
I can see a bit of light bluish gray around the base of one of the studs on the
part you are saying is light gray. I believe you have a damaged light bluish
gray part that has been yellowed. I find it *very* hard to believe that this
mold would have been used to make parts in a color that had been retired for
*years* before the mold was ever even manufactured.
|
|
| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 15:56 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.
|
Gots to be honest with you, I'm still wondering. Can you post an image of
the two parts attached side by side on a 1 x 4 plate (any color)?
Just want to be certain since this part was released (according to our timeline)
five years after the LBG colour change.
|
Certainly. But a 1x4 plate? What does that accomplish, and from which angle do
you want it?
/Jan
|
|
|
| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 15:12 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.
|
Gots to be honest with you, I'm still wondering. Can you post an image of
the two parts attached side by side on a 1 x 4 plate (any color)?
Just want to be certain since this part was released (according to our timeline)
five years after the LBG colour change.
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 15:10 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Legoboy_II writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| |
When and why did you stop beating your wife?
|
I think you owe the Community a sincere apology for
such a personal and unwarranted attack against my
deceased wife, whom you didn't even know and had
absolutely no reason to drag into your argument.
|
I believe that was a rhetorical question meant as an example to show that the
questions that were being asked were not really relevant when there is an even
bigger underlying problem that is not being addressed.
|
|
| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 14:57 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Pippyblocks writes:
| | Is this part
?
In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.
/Jan
|
|
No, it's 88072 as stated. The handle is centered between the studs (see the
base as the perspective warps the image).
/Jan
|
|
| Author: | Pippysblocks | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 14:41 | | Subject: | Re: 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| Is this part
?
In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.
/Jan
|
|
| Author: | Legoboy_II | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 14:27 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| |
When and why did you stop beating your wife?
|
I think you owe the Community a sincere apology for
such a personal and unwarranted attack against my
deceased wife, whom you didn't even know and had
absolutely no reason to drag into your argument.
|
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