Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | normann1974  | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 14:15 | | Subject: | 88072 in Light Gray | | Viewed: | 220 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.
/Jan
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 12:13 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, 62Bricks writes:
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| | | | I did notice that very recently the names were changed again. And for the better,
they have included the word 'grip'in the description.
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No, “grip” isn’t in the description.
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I mean, “grip” wasn’t in the descriptions as of a few days ago, when you started
this thread. So it’s not part of the change you think occured, it’s a consequence
of this thread.
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Regardless of the history of the nomenclature, it is confusing and is not based
on describing the shape of the part itself. It is based on one attribute of a
part it may attach to.
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Yes. The only clip-like part for which “vertical/horizontal” as used here could
make sense is the minifig hand (because of the already established meaning of
“vertical/horizontal” for human hands). And that part isn’t described as a clip
nor has “clip” nor any orientation in its description….
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It was a short-sighted initial decision and it has unfortunately been perpetuated.
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Yes.
And it’s a difficult decision to correct now, as there isn’t any other pair than
vertical/horizontal (that I know of) to describe the difference between the clips.
The only way would be to swap the meanings of vertical and horizontal, creating
confusion.
(Hence the latest change from “clip vertical” to “clip (vertical grip).”)
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| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 11:39 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, Northwinds writes:
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Which are both irrelevant questions because the names didn’t change.
With al due respect but how can you be so sure?
I've been selling here since 2000.
My inventory boxes carry the stickers with the old names since that date,
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[P=30241b]
That part appeared in 2008/2009.
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names were changed sometime in the past 20 years, I only did not notice
this until just a few months ago.
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Peeron’s name (60475): Brick 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical
Peeron hasn’t been updated since 2011. (They have only one variant. 30241 is
just appearing in notes in 60475’s list of sets.)
LDraw’s names:
(60475a): Brick 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical (Thick C-Clip) and Solid Stud
(60475b): Brick 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical (Thick C-Clip) and Hollow Stud
Rebrickable:
(60475a): Brick Special 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical [Thick U Clip, Solid Stud]
(60475b): Brick Special 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical [Open O Clip, Hollow Stud]
Same motive, same punition with BrickOwl.
They all agree on what “vertical” means for this part.
They all agree on what “vertical” means for all the parts with clips.
As the part is “recent” (2008/2009), it’s not on lugnet (which died in 2002),
but lugnet agrees with everybody else on what “vertical” means for parts with
clips.
There’s no traces whatsoever of a change of names.
Those are facts, not memories.
On your side, you’re saying they all changed their names together, without leaving
any trace but your labels, twice!
What are the chances you made a mistake with your labels instead?
| | I did notice that very recently the names were changed again. And for the better,
they have included the word 'grip'in the description.
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No, “grip” isn’t in the description.
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Perhaps the OP simply set up their labels in a way that makes sense by describing
the part itself rather than how it is sometimes used, and his error is that he
assumed the rest of the Lego community would also follow common sense.
The way Lego describes these parts is more accurate and does not rely on defining
it by a particular usage. It is the "describe it by its use and not its shape"
philosophy that created the widely inconsistent Bricklink categories. Clips are
not always used as clips. Sometimes they are used merely as decoration. And when
they are used as clips, the parts held by them are not necessarily oriented in
a certain way. The clips are designed to allow for movement and are often used
as hinge parts, allowing the attached part to move from horizontal to vertical
around the attachment point.
Regardless of the history of the nomenclature, it is confusing and is not based
on describing the shape of the part itself. It is based on one attribute of a
part it may attach to. The bar on the other part may be oriented horizontally
or vertically relative to the part, so the full part with the bar may be oriented
opposite to the name of the clip.
Attach
to a "vertical" clip and it will be oriented horizontally. Sideways.
It was a short-sighted initial decision and it has unfortunately been perpetuated.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 10:14 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Northwinds writes:
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Which are both irrelevant questions because the names didn’t change.
With al due respect but how can you be so sure?
I've been selling here since 2000.
My inventory boxes carry the stickers with the old names since that date,
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[P=30241b]
That part appeared in 2008/2009.
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names were changed sometime in the past 20 years, I only did not notice
this until just a few months ago.
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Peeron’s name (60475): Brick 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical
Peeron hasn’t been updated since 2011. (They have only one variant. 30241 is
just appearing in notes in 60475’s list of sets.)
LDraw’s names:
(60475a): Brick 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical (Thick C-Clip) and Solid Stud
(60475b): Brick 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical (Thick C-Clip) and Hollow Stud
Rebrickable:
(60475a): Brick Special 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical [Thick U Clip, Solid Stud]
(60475b): Brick Special 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical [Open O Clip, Hollow Stud]
Same motive, same punition with BrickOwl.
They all agree on what “vertical” means for this part.
They all agree on what “vertical” means for all the parts with clips.
As the part is “recent” (2008/2009), it’s not on lugnet (which died in 2002),
but lugnet agrees with everybody else on what “vertical” means for parts with
clips.
There’s no traces whatsoever of a change of names.
Those are facts, not memories.
On your side, you’re saying they all changed their names together, without leaving
any trace but your labels, twice!
What are the chances you made a mistake with your labels instead?
| | I did notice that very recently the names were changed again. And for the better,
they have included the word 'grip'in the description.
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No, “grip” isn’t in the description.
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| Author: | Northwinds | | Posted: | Jun 7, 2020 03:44 | | Subject: | Re: Did horizontal become vertical & vice versa? | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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Which are both irrelevant questions because the names didn’t change.
With al due respect but how can you be so sure?
I've been selling here since 2000.
My inventory boxes carry the stickers with the old names since that date, these
names were changed sometime in the past 20 years, I only did not notice
this until just a few months ago.
I did notice that very recently the names were changed again. And for the better,
they have included the word 'grip'in the description.
Peter
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jun 6, 2020 12:03 | | Subject: | Re: did i do something wrong? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, markim writes:
| | I think i submitted a request! Thanks!
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It looks like you are doing a lot of things right!
Well done 
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| Author: | markim | | Posted: | Jun 5, 2020 14:41 | | Subject: | Re: did i do something wrong? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, paulvdb writes:
| | In Catalog, markim writes:
| | Hey fellow bricklinkers,
Today i parted out 20 times set 41916 - dots series 2 charms.
I added half of the printed tiles to the catalog (the other half was already
there), but it is not added to the set inventory. Am I to impatient or did i
do something wrong in adding?
Very curious in discovering (still...) the adding to the catalog functions 
Thx for your insights! - Marielle
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Hi, after they are added to the catalog they still have to be added to the set
inventory. You can submit an inventory change request to add them to the inventory
at https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChange.asp?itemType=S
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I think i submitted a request! Thanks!
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Jun 5, 2020 14:32 | | Subject: | Re: did i do something wrong? | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, markim writes:
| | Hey fellow bricklinkers,
Today i parted out 20 times set 41916 - dots series 2 charms.
I added half of the printed tiles to the catalog (the other half was already
there), but it is not added to the set inventory. Am I to impatient or did i
do something wrong in adding?
Very curious in discovering (still...) the adding to the catalog functions
Thx for your insights! - Marielle
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Hi, after they are added to the catalog they still have to be added to the set
inventory. You can submit an inventory change request to add them to the inventory
at https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChange.asp?itemType=S
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| Author: | markim | | Posted: | Jun 5, 2020 14:28 | | Subject: | did i do something wrong? | | Viewed: | 153 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Hey fellow bricklinkers,
Today i parted out 20 times set 41916 - dots series 2 charms.
I added half of the printed tiles to the catalog (the other half was already
there), but it is not added to the set inventory. Am I to impatient or did i
do something wrong in adding?
Very curious in discovering (still...) the adding to the catalog functions
Thx for your insights! - Marielle
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| Author: | primadeluxe | | Posted: | Jun 5, 2020 09:33 | | Subject: | Re: We have a new Catalog Administrator! | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| 🎈🎉🎈🎊👍😃
In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Hello everyone,
I have some long-awaited news for you! We have created a new Catalog Admin position
which has privileges on both sides of the system, the catalog and inventories.
This is a culmination of about 3 years of work, and we are so proud of our first
ever member to take this position, Hygrotus.
He has steadily worked his way up to this level from his years of being an outstanding
and reliable contributor, to a special class of contributor known as an Inventories
Verifier, to one year experience as an Inv Admin, and then most recently about
14 months as a Catalog Associate. We are pleased that he has stuck with the program
and now is going to forge ahead.
We are combining the two "halves" of the system for many reasons, but the main
one being efficiency. If only one admin is available on a given weekend, for
example, we can take care of contributions on both sides, which are often dependent
on each other.
We will retain the Catalog Associate and Inv Admin positions for the purpose
of training new Catalog Admins. They will be considered transitory positions.
For more info on the Community Expert Program, please see this post:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1196395
You may also visit our Community Expert Program page:
https://www.bricklink.com/memberAdmins.asp
and also read a few FAQs in the Help Center:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=974
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