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 Author: ratas View Messages Posted By ratas
 Posted: Feb 28, 2020 03:57
 Subject: Re: Allow sellers ability to check red 'paid' box
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ratas (43)

Location:  Finland, Uusimaa
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In Suggestions, Legoboy_II writes:
  I agree.

When I first joined, I was confused and almost paid again. Instead I contacted
the seller and they kindly helped me understand.

I would think, however, that the option actually should be reversed - the box
should only be changed by the seller? Which would indicate to me, the buyer,
that the seller received payment?

If the box was only handled by the seller, it could be removed, as there already
is another thing for payment status for sellers. The sole purpose of that particular
fields is exactly to allow the buyer to give a little bit of extra info to the
seller about payment process, when the payment method does not do it automatically.

The biggest problem, imho, at the moment is that BL help page content for the
"Paid" field behind the (?) icon does not match what is actually going on in
the Orders Placed -page.
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=121
Naming of fields and/or states, etc. Talking about quite a number of payment
statuses, yet we can only see red/green box with possibly a checkbox. That page
is useless and only confuses buyers.

The number of issues might be reduced if the (?) info actually described things
correctly and clearly.

There is another help page which was a little bit more helpful:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=134
The last point seems to match what is actually working on the Orders page. However,
the whole page should probably change "You" to "Buyer" for clarity, and the last
point telling about "payment has been sent" might add some extra info on that,
as I think it does not explain all the possible situations correctly (or clearly).
 Author: Heartbricker View Messages Posted By Heartbricker
 Posted: Feb 27, 2020 20:12
 Subject: Re: Allow sellers ability to check red 'paid' box
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Heartbricker (18074)

Location:  USA, New Jersey
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In Suggestions, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Suggestions, Heartbricker writes:
  We allow payment both onsite and offsite.
The issue is that offsite payments require the buyers to check the 'red'
paid box.
some buyers (specially new ones) mistakenly take this to mean that their offsite
payment didn't go through and re-submit payment for the second time (sometimes
even after the order was shipped) which creates more work to refund and with
the new paypal policy might also cost sellers extra fees.

It would be great if seller can manually check this paid box and switch it to
green in order to avoid this misunderstanding. i know we can mark the order paid
and shipped but a buyer yesterday in one of many examples wanted to make sure
they paid because they saw the box was red and ended up paying for the second
time.
Thanks for considering.

If you click on the edit order icon you get to change the payment status to paid/not
paid independently of the order status dropdown menu on you orders received page.

Does that help you in the meantime?

Sometimes buyers mark as paid (by ticking the paid box) when they havent - you
can change the status back to not paid on the edit order page in the same way.

I don't think i understand your answer, perhaps if you walk me step by step
then i might be able to understand better.
we change the 'order status'; drop menu to 'paid' or 'shipped'
but the buyer still sees a red checkbox next to the 'paid' checkboxes.
those checkboxed are not showing for me as a seller.
i do understand that buyers can check the 'paid' box even if they didn't
which is a different issue that doesn't really concern me however it would
be nice if the buyer checked the box accidentally if i was able to uncheck it-
but i don't want to sidestep the underline issue i raised initially:
Buyers that paid via link or sent a payment manually are not always aware that
it is up to them to check the 'paid' box to turn it green and mistakenly
think that their offsite payment did not go through and end up paying a second
time.
If i was able to check the box for or before they do and they would see it green
instead of red- it would reduce the occurrences of duplicate payments which has
been happening 1-3 time per month for us.
 Author: BricksThatStick View Messages Posted By BricksThatStick
 Posted: Feb 27, 2020 18:19
 Subject: Re: Allow sellers ability to check red 'paid' box
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BricksThatStick (6356)

Location:  United Kingdom, England
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In Suggestions, Heartbricker writes:
  We allow payment both onsite and offsite.
The issue is that offsite payments require the buyers to check the 'red'
paid box.
some buyers (specially new ones) mistakenly take this to mean that their offsite
payment didn't go through and re-submit payment for the second time (sometimes
even after the order was shipped) which creates more work to refund and with
the new paypal policy might also cost sellers extra fees.

It would be great if seller can manually check this paid box and switch it to
green in order to avoid this misunderstanding. i know we can mark the order paid
and shipped but a buyer yesterday in one of many examples wanted to make sure
they paid because they saw the box was red and ended up paying for the second
time.
Thanks for considering.

If you click on the edit order icon you get to change the payment status to paid/not
paid independently of the order status dropdown menu on you orders received page.

Does that help you in the meantime?

Sometimes buyers mark as paid (by ticking the paid box) when they havent - you
can change the status back to not paid on the edit order page in the same way.
 Author: Legoboy_II View Messages Posted By Legoboy_II
 Posted: Feb 27, 2020 18:12
 Subject: Re: Allow sellers ability to check red 'paid' box
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Legoboy_II (98)

Location:  USA, Texas
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I agree.

When I first joined, I was confused and almost paid again. Instead I contacted
the seller and they kindly helped me understand.

I would think, however, that the option actually should be reversed - the box
should only be changed by the seller? Which would indicate to me, the buyer,
that the seller received payment?






In Suggestions, Heartbricker writes:
  We allow payment both onsite and offsite.
The issue is that offsite payments require the buyers to check the 'red'
paid box.
some buyers (specially new ones) mistakenly take this to mean that their offsite
payment didn't go through and re-submit payment for the second time (sometimes
even after the order was shipped) which creates more work to refund and with
the new paypal policy might also cost sellers extra fees.

It would be great if seller can manually check this paid box and switch it to
green in order to avoid this misunderstanding. i know we can mark the order paid
and shipped but a buyer yesterday in one of many examples wanted to make sure
they paid because they saw the box was red and ended up paying for the second
time.
Thanks for considering.
 Author: Heartbricker View Messages Posted By Heartbricker
 Posted: Feb 27, 2020 16:36
 Subject: Allow sellers ability to check red 'paid' box
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Heartbricker (18074)

Location:  USA, New Jersey
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Store: Heart Bricker
We allow payment both onsite and offsite.
The issue is that offsite payments require the buyers to check the 'red'
paid box.
some buyers (specially new ones) mistakenly take this to mean that their offsite
payment didn't go through and re-submit payment for the second time (sometimes
even after the order was shipped) which creates more work to refund and with
the new paypal policy might also cost sellers extra fees.

It would be great if seller can manually check this paid box and switch it to
green in order to avoid this misunderstanding. i know we can mark the order paid
and shipped but a buyer yesterday in one of many examples wanted to make sure
they paid because they saw the box was red and ended up paying for the second
time.
Thanks for considering.

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