Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies Author: | calsbricks | Posted: | Feb 9, 2020 04:49 | Subject: | Re: Description Standardization Note | Viewed: | 44 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| In Catalog, mfav writes:
| It would be good for consistency in the catalog description if all instances
of numbers were either integers or words, not arbitrarily some of each.
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I have noticed this before and definitely agree it needs to be worked on. The
problem is (and I'm starting to understand the rearranging the chairs thing)
there are too many problems.
In the case of this problem, you can't even find the problem because you
can't search for it. So it would involve examining every single catalog
entry. All 100K+ of them.
And perhaps, when the next problem comes along, examining all of them again.
It almost makes a person think that there must be a better way . .
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The answer is really quite simple - talk to a SQL person and they will advise
you how to organise your query to find precisely what you want. It isn't
rocket science. .
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Author: | FreeStorm | Posted: | Feb 9, 2020 03:59 | Subject: | Re: Description Standardization Note | Viewed: | 46 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| In the case of this problem, you can't even find the problem because you
can't search for it. So it would involve examining every single catalog
entry. All 100K+ of them.
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What do you want to find?
Something like this?
"* three *" = 153 results
"* 3 *" = 6675 results
"* three *" AND "* 3 *" = 16 results
As example, last search find:
"Technic, Panel Car Spoiler 3 x 8 with Three Holes and Black and Yellow Danger
Stripes and Mud Pattern (Stickers) - Set 7968"
"Primo Brick 1 x 1 with Three Flowers and Number 3 on Opposite Side Pattern"
Of course,I made query to find only for "three" and "3" on same description,
but with a regexp it should be simple to spot every "word digit" with "digit"
on same description like "blah with two legs and 1 arm"
Some other incoherence (digit 3 should be between '' when you have pattern
after):
"*number 3 *pattern*" = 22 result
"*number '3' *pattern*" = 3 result
If you know what you want to find, it should be easy to make a search query,
to spot the majority of incoherence.
-Fred
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Author: | SezaR | Posted: | Feb 9, 2020 03:44 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6074-1 | Viewed: | 29 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Blue 4502a Minifigure, Plume Feather Small {Regular to Extra}
* Change 1 Part Red 4502a Minifigure, Plume Feather Small {Regular to Extra}
Comments from Submitter:
I do not see these parts used on any model. If they are not going to be in the inventory as sprue, isn't it better to move them to the extra section?
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From the Additional Information About Regular Items section of the Inventory
Sections: Regular, Extra, Counterpart, and Alternate help page:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Parts on Sprues - Complete sprues are included in this section unless
some parts from the sprues are used in minifigures. In that case, the parts from
the sprues that are not used in minifigures are included in this section.
These requests will not be accepted.
Cheers,
Randy
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I don't find this a good policy for this case.
Cheers,
Reza
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All parts used for main or any other model of the set go to the regular section.
This is a good policy for regular section. Any other part that happened to come
with the set, not used in any model, directly or indirectly, is better to be
in the extra section.
I see we will have anyway some inconsistency with parts coming with sprues, no
matter which policy is chosen.
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Author: | StormChaser | Posted: | Feb 9, 2020 03:29 | Subject: | Re: Description Standardization Note | Viewed: | 60 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, mfav writes:
| It would be good for consistency in the catalog description if all instances
of numbers were either integers or words, not arbitrarily some of each.
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I have noticed this before and definitely agree it needs to be worked on. The
problem is (and I'm starting to understand the rearranging the chairs thing)
there are too many problems.
In the case of this problem, you can't even find the problem because you
can't search for it. So it would involve examining every single catalog
entry. All 100K+ of them.
And perhaps, when the next problem comes along, examining all of them again.
It almost makes a person think that there must be a better way . . .
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | Feb 9, 2020 03:22 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6074-1 | Viewed: | 26 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Blue 4502a Minifigure, Plume Feather Small {Regular to Extra}
* Change 1 Part Red 4502a Minifigure, Plume Feather Small {Regular to Extra}
Comments from Submitter:
I do not see these parts used on any model. If they are not going to be in the inventory as sprue, isn't it better to move them to the extra section?
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From the Additional Information About Regular Items section of the Inventory
Sections: Regular, Extra, Counterpart, and Alternate help page:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Parts on Sprues - Complete sprues are included in this section unless
some parts from the sprues are used in minifigures. In that case, the parts from
the sprues that are not used in minifigures are included in this section.
These requests will not be accepted.
Cheers,
Randy
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I don't find this a good policy for this case.
Cheers,
Reza
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Opinion noted.
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Author: | hpoort | Posted: | Feb 9, 2020 03:00 | Subject: | Re: Description standardization note | Viewed: | 48 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| In Catalog, mfav writes:
| It would be good for consistency in the catalog description if all instances
of numbers were either integers or words, not arbitrarily some of each.
So:
Three eyeballs, Three earlobes
or
3 eyeballs, 3 earlobes
not
Three eyeballs, 3 earlobes
...that kind of thing.
There are pros and cons for each option. Please investigate how the search mechanism
works to see which option yields better results.
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Unfortunately, single digits are thrown out of many of the search results. But
I think in general one would find more numerals in item names than the words
spelled out simply because it makes the name shorter.
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Please drop the keyword exclusion altogether.
It does not make sense to make use of a full text English language keyword exclusion
list, when the contents of the database is actually not normal full text English,
but a specific dialect: Bricklink English (EN-BL) in which it makes more sense
to search for keywords like 'with' and 'without' and for single
digits. It should be easy to adjust the database configuration. No programming
involved.
Hans-Peter
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Author: | SezaR | Posted: | Feb 9, 2020 02:52 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6074-1 | Viewed: | 23 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Blue 4502a Minifigure, Plume Feather Small {Regular to Extra}
* Change 1 Part Red 4502a Minifigure, Plume Feather Small {Regular to Extra}
Comments from Submitter:
I do not see these parts used on any model. If they are not going to be in the inventory as sprue, isn't it better to move them to the extra section?
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From the Additional Information About Regular Items section of the Inventory
Sections: Regular, Extra, Counterpart, and Alternate help page:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Parts on Sprues - Complete sprues are included in this section unless
some parts from the sprues are used in minifigures. In that case, the parts from
the sprues that are not used in minifigures are included in this section.
These requests will not be accepted.
Cheers,
Randy
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I don't find this a good policy for this case.
Cheers,
Reza
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | Feb 9, 2020 02:46 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6074-1 | Viewed: | 33 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Blue 4502a Minifigure, Plume Feather Small {Regular to Extra}
* Change 1 Part Red 4502a Minifigure, Plume Feather Small {Regular to Extra}
Comments from Submitter:
I do not see these parts used on any model. If they are not going to be in the inventory as sprue, isn't it better to move them to the extra section?
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From the Additional Information About Regular Items section of the Inventory
Sections: Regular, Extra, Counterpart, and Alternate help page:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Parts on Sprues - Complete sprues are included in this section unless
some parts from the sprues are used in minifigures. In that case, the parts from
the sprues that are not used in minifigures are included in this section.
These requests will not be accepted.
Cheers,
Randy
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | Feb 9, 2020 02:38 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4758-1 | Viewed: | 29 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part {Earth Orange to Dark Nougat} 30374 Bar 4L (Lightsaber Blade / Wand)
Comments from Submitter:
Pics to follow
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Congratulations on being the first person to get a true Dark Nougat part into
an inventory!
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Author: | SezaR | Posted: | Feb 9, 2020 01:35 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6074-1 | Viewed: | 23 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SylvainLS writes:
| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Blue 4502a Minifigure, Plume Feather Small {Regular to Extra}
* Change 1 Part Red 4502a Minifigure, Plume Feather Small {Regular to Extra}
Comments from Submitter:
I do not see these parts used on any model. If they are not going to be in the inventory as sprue, isn't it better to move them to the extra section?
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Look for posts from 62bricks and the admins’ answers….
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Sylvain,
Comme tu as lu leur opinion, tu n'as pas vu que j'ai meme participe aux
discussions?
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Author: | axaday | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 23:39 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4758-1 | Viewed: | 32 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| | I couldn't say without seeing the setup. It could be a diffuser, but it needs
to be positioned correctly. I'm seeing hard white highlights on the tiger
figure which suggests hard direct light. Also seems the light is coming from
the sides, kind of backlit.
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I'm going to let you help me.
| Phones are a pain because of the wide angle lens. You end up always having to
be between the light source and the object if you want to get a closeup. There
may be telephoto clip-on lenses that might help. Also a tripod/clamp/mount.
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I have a Moment case and a Moment telephoto lens, but I barely use it because
it won't work for me. But I have a cheap, cheap on that does and the Moment
case holds it at the right position.
| Are you doing any postproduction with Photoshop or Gimp or something?
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Yes, Photoshop Elements.
| By the way, did I mention: The page cannot be displayed because an internal server
error has occurred.
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I don't know if you did this time, but you have mentioned it before.
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Author: | axaday | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 23:36 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 4758-1 | Viewed: | 41 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 4032b Black Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole - X Opening (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Add 1 Part 32064b Light Bluish Gray Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Axle Hole - X Opening (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 4032b Yellow Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole - X Opening (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Change 2 Part Reddish Brown {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove}
* Change 2 Part Dark Bluish Gray {44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End (undetermined type) to 44301a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End with Bottom Groove}
* Change 1 Part Black 4032 Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole {match ID 0 to 1}
* Change 1 Part Light Bluish Gray 32064 Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Axle Hole {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part Yellow 4032 Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole {match ID 0 to 3}
Comments from Submitter:
I apologize for no pictures. I was so excited about the dark nougat bar that I forgot I had other undetermined pieces. When I set out to sort out the set I dumped all the bags and then started to find variants when it was too late.
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Author: | mfav | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 23:00 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4758-1 | Viewed: | 39 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| In Inventories Requests, mfav writes:
| mfav thinks he'd like to see a wide shot of whateverthehell it is you're
doing for your "studio setup"...background, lights, camera, etc.
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1 level up from cheapest tent on Amazon, ultra-bright LED bulbs, iPhone XR
| mfav thinks you've got some awesome light temperature going on there, but
could use a diffuser
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Isn't the tent a diffuser?
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I couldn't say without seeing the setup. It could be a diffuser, but it needs
to be positioned correctly. I'm seeing hard white highlights on the tiger
figure which suggests hard direct light. Also seems the light is coming from
the sides, kind of backlit.
Phones are a pain because of the wide angle lens. You end up always having to
be between the light source and the object if you want to get a closeup. There
may be telephoto clip-on lenses that might help. Also a tripod/clamp/mount.
Also look into the Neural Cam app for iPhone.
Are you doing any postproduction with Photoshop or Gimp or something?
By the way, did I mention: The page cannot be displayed because an internal server
error has occurred.
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Author: | mfav | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 22:49 | Subject: | Re: Description standardization note | Viewed: | 63 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| Unfortunately, single digits are thrown out of many of the search results.
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Aren't you the fella to talk to to get that changed, Mister Site Manager?
| But I think in general one would find more numerals in item names than the words
spelled out simply because it makes the name shorter.
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While that is undoubtedly true, it's not particularly helpful in any way.
If you search, say, legs assemblies...
search for "three" you get two results
search for "3" you get: The following keywords were excluded from your search:
3
...however there are 13 entries containing "3"
Isn't the point of StormBluser's standardization plan to fix this stuff?
To paraphrase the StormBluser: why name something like this when 75% of the search
words are invalid?
Again, I'll make the point you need to distinguish between identification
and discovery. The identification of a thing is irrelevant if it can't be
discovered. People use the search box to find things, they don't browse 180,000
individual items looking for "3". Hope you get my drift.
Aren't you the number one proponent of making the catalog useful? Let's
figure out a way to make it useful.
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Author: | Brixalotl | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 22:38 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 76134-1 | Viewed: | 30 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 44302b Dark Bluish Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End without Bottom Groove (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Dark Bluish Gray 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove {match ID 0 to 1}
Comments from Submitter:
found both variants during part out, thanks
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Author: | Leftoverbricks | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 22:24 | Subject: | Re: Sticker # When adding Items | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, OmnipresentECA writes:
| I have come across a few tiles with stickers that are not in the catalog.
, nor in their set inventory.
How do I go about determining the Sticker # when Adding to the catalog.
For example one is a 87079pb###, how do I determine the last few digits?
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Search for 87079pb*
You will get 725 results. The next ‘free’ number should be 726.
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Author: | RecycledBrick | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 22:13 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 70356-1 | Viewed: | 31 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 87079pb666 Dark Bluish Gray Tile 2 x 4 with Dark Purple Stone Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70356 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 3039pb130 Dark Bluish Gray Slope 45 2 x 2 with Stone and Energy Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70356 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 15068pb223 Dark Bluish Gray Slope, Curved 2 x 2 with Stone and Energy Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70356 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 24309pb015 Black Slope, Curved 3 x 2 with Stone and Energy Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70356 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 22387pb003 Black Panel 2 x 6 x 6 With Window Slot with Stone and Energy Pattern (Stickers) - Set 70356 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 60581pb131 Black Panel 1 x 4 x 3 with Side Supports - Hollow Studs with Stone and Energy Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70356 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 87544pb056L Black Panel 1 x 2 x 3 with Side Supports - Hollow Studs with Stone and Energy Pattern Model Left Side (Sticker) - Set 70356 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 87544pb056R Black Panel 1 x 2 x 3 with Side Supports - Hollow Studs with Stone and Energy Pattern Model Right Side (Sticker) - Set 70356 (Counterpart)
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Author: | axaday | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 21:41 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4758-1 | Viewed: | 39 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, mfav writes:
| mfav thinks he'd like to see a wide shot of whateverthehell it is you're
doing for your "studio setup"...background, lights, camera, etc.
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1 level up from cheapest tent on Amazon, ultra-bright LED bulbs, iPhone XR
| mfav thinks you've got some awesome light temperature going on there, but
could use a diffuser
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Isn't the tent a diffuser?
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Author: | mfav | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 21:08 | Subject: | Description standardization note | Viewed: | 168 times | Topic: | Catalog | Status: | Open | |
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| It would be good for consistency in the catalog description if all instances
of numbers were either integers or words, not arbitrarily some of each.
So:
Three eyeballs, Three earlobes
or
3 eyeballs, 3 earlobes
not
Three eyeballs, 3 earlobes
...that kind of thing.
There are pros and cons for each option. Please investigate how the search mechanism
works to see which option yields better results.
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Author: | waltzking | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 19:49 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 60270-1 | Viewed: | 32 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 30258pb018 Black Road Sign Clip-on 2 x 2 Square with Curved Blue Lines and Small Black Squares Pattern (Computer Screen)
* Add 1 Part 15210pb002 Black Road Sign Clip-On 2 x 2 Square Open O Clip with Curved Blue Lines and Small Black Squares Pattern (Computer Screen)
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Author: | mfav | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 18:18 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4758-1 | Viewed: | 42 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| mfav is welcomed to steel these pics.
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mfav thinks he's not interested in the pics once they've gone through
the bricklink imagemangler
mfav thinks he'd like to see a wide shot of whateverthehell it is you're
doing for your "studio setup"...background, lights, camera, etc.
mfav thinks you've got some awesome light temperature going on there, but
could use a diffuser
mfav also thinks a bunch of other stuff, but is going to stop thinking now
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Author: | axaday | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 17:42 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4758-1 | Viewed: | 39 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part {Earth Orange to Dark Nougat} 30374 Bar 4L (Lightsaber Blade / Wand)
Comments from Submitter:
Pics to follow
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mfav is welcomed to steel these pics.
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Author: | axaday | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 17:41 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 4758-1 | Viewed: | 49 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part {Earth Orange to Dark Nougat} 30374 Bar 4L (Lightsaber Blade / Wand)
Comments from Submitter:
Pics to follow
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Author: | OmnipresentECA | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 15:30 | Subject: | Sticker # When adding Items | Viewed: | 52 times | Topic: | Catalog | Status: | Open | |
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| I have come across a few tiles with stickers that are not in the catalog.
, nor in their set inventory.
How do I go about determining the Sticker # when Adding to the catalog.
For example one is a 87079pb###, how do I determine the last few digits?
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