Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | xoshimin  | | Posted: | Jul 5, 2019 04:38 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9680-1 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
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Could you please post an image of the cover card for this set? I would like to
see if it differs from the cover card for the 1999 version. If so, we should
probably make a new catalog entry for the set instead of adding all of these
alternates.
Thanks,
Randy
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 5, 2019 04:12 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9680-1 | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
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Could you please post an image of the cover card for this set? I would like to
see if it differs from the cover card for the 1999 version. If so, we should
probably make a new catalog entry for the set instead of adding all of these
alternates.
Thanks,
Randy
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 5, 2019 00:47 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7508-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Oh, that makes sense.
I just noticed that contains both trans-light and trans-medium as
alternates.
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Are you going to buy that one or should I? 
I think we know the answer to the riddle in that set, but proof is always nice.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jul 5, 2019 00:06 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7508-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 3 Part {Trans-Medium Blue to Trans-Light Blue} Clikits038a Clikits Icon, Round 2 x 2 Small with Hole, Frosted (Solid and Transparent Colors)
Comments from Submitter:
In the course of this investigation: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1147786 I noticed that my pieces from 7508 were Trans-Light Blue, not Trans-Medium Blue. The colors on these pieces are difficult because of the thickness of the plastic, but I will attach a comparison image that should help it be clearer.
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Just comparing to Trans-light blue (the star) the piece looks like a different
color. But a thick Clikit in Trans-medium blue looks way different. But if you
look at the thin plastic in the middle of the round one, it is a good match for
the star. It looks better in person than in the pic. If it isn't trans-light
blue, it is a color that isn't in the catalog, but I think it is close enough.
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According to Ryan Howerter, the color of this part is Trans-Medium Blue. See
the last post on this page:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/15191136091/
The color that is not on BrickLink yet is the color of the flower in your picture:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/15186139306/
This request will not be accepted.
Cheers,
Randy
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Oh, that makes sense.
I just noticed that contains both trans-light and trans-medium as
alternates.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 23:56 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7508-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 3 Part {Trans-Medium Blue to Trans-Light Blue} Clikits038a Clikits Icon, Round 2 x 2 Small with Hole, Frosted (Solid and Transparent Colors)
Comments from Submitter:
In the course of this investigation: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1147786 I noticed that my pieces from 7508 were Trans-Light Blue, not Trans-Medium Blue. The colors on these pieces are difficult because of the thickness of the plastic, but I will attach a comparison image that should help it be clearer.
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Just comparing to Trans-light blue (the star) the piece looks like a different
color. But a thick Clikit in Trans-medium blue looks way different. But if you
look at the thin plastic in the middle of the round one, it is a good match for
the star. It looks better in person than in the pic. If it isn't trans-light
blue, it is a color that isn't in the catalog, but I think it is close enough.
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According to Ryan Howerter, the color of this part is Trans-Medium Blue. See
the last post on this page:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/15191136091/
The color that is not on BrickLink yet is the color of the flower in your picture:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/15186139306/
This request will not be accepted.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 23:46 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1060-1 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, zorbanyc writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 6 Part 3031 Light Gray Plate 4 x 4
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I see that you have a new set for sale in your store. I assume that set is the
source for this request?
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 23:45 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7508-1 | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 3 Part {Trans-Medium Blue to Trans-Light Blue} Clikits038a Clikits Icon, Round 2 x 2 Small with Hole, Frosted (Solid and Transparent Colors)
Comments from Submitter:
In the course of this investigation: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1147786 I noticed that my pieces from 7508 were Trans-Light Blue, not Trans-Medium Blue. The colors on these pieces are difficult because of the thickness of the plastic, but I will attach a comparison image that should help it be clearer.
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Just comparing to Trans-light blue (the star) the piece looks like a different
color. But a thick Clikit in Trans-medium blue looks way different. But if you
look at the thin plastic in the middle of the round one, it is a good match for
the star. It looks better in person than in the pic. If it isn't trans-light
blue, it is a color that isn't in the catalog, but I think it is close enough.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 23:38 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7508-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 3 Part {Trans-Medium Blue to Trans-Light Blue} Clikits038a Clikits Icon, Round 2 x 2 Small with Hole, Frosted (Solid and Transparent Colors)
Comments from Submitter:
In the course of this investigation: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1147786 I noticed that my pieces from 7508 were Trans-Light Blue, not Trans-Medium Blue. The colors on these pieces are difficult because of the thickness of the plastic, but I will attach a comparison image that should help it be clearer.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 22:56 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7505-1 | | Viewed: | 15 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part {Medium Orange to Trans-Light Orange} clikits081 Clikits Flexy Film, Flower 10 Petals 4 x 4 with Raised Border
Comments from Submitter:
This is just a cleanup move. I have had this a while and the set isn't sealed anymore, but I trust the handling of the piece. Anyway, the inventory used to be correct as far as consistency with other sets goes, but we've been moving the pieces like this to trans-light orange because it is a better match.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 22:45 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7531-1 | | Viewed: | 11 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part Trans-Dark Pink {clikits013u Clikits Icon, Star 2 x 2 Small with Pin - (Undetermined Version) to clikits013b Clikits Icon, Star 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Polished (Transparent Colors Only)}
Comments from Submitter:
Missed one. Pic on the way.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 22:44 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7531-1 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part Trans-Dark Pink {clikits013u Clikits Icon, Star 2 x 2 Small with Pin - (Undetermined Version) to clikits013b Clikits Icon, Star 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Polished (Transparent Colors Only)}
Comments from Submitter:
Missed one. Pic on the way.
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| Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 22:10 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 1060-1 | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 6 Part 3031 Light Gray Plate 4 x 4
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 21:37 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7529-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part clikits003 Trans-Orange Clikits Bead, Ring Thick Small with Hole (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Add 4 Part Clikits020b Trans-Orange Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Large with Pin, Polished (Transparent Colors Only) (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 12 Part Clikits004b Trans-Orange Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Polished (Transparent Colors Only) (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Change 1 Part {Dark Pink to Trans-Dark Pink} clikits081 Clikits Flexy Film, Flower 10 Petals 4 x 4 with Raised Border
* Change 1 Part {Medium Orange to Trans-Light Orange} clikits081 Clikits Flexy Film, Flower 10 Petals 4 x 4 with Raised Border
* Change 8 Part Trans-Dark Pink {clikits020u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Large with Pin - Undetermined Version) to clikits020a Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Large with Pin, Frosted (Solid and Transparent Colors)}
* Change 6 Part Trans-Dark Pink {clikits004u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin - (Undetermined Version) to clikits004a Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Frosted (Solid and Transparent Colors)}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Light Orange clikits003 Clikits Bead, Ring Thick Small with Hole {match ID 0 to 1}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Light Orange clikits020u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Large with Pin - Undetermined Version) {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 12 Part Trans-Light Orange clikits004u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin - (Undetermined Version) {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 8 Part Trans-Neon Yellow {clikits020u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Large with Pin - Undetermined Version) to clikits020a Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Large with Pin, Frosted (Solid and Transparent Colors)}
Comments from Submitter:
I wish this was less messy, but since a bunch of parts were specifically changed to trans light orange, I'll leave those in there, even though it means leaving undetermined pieces.
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The parts were changed to Trans-Light Orange when the new color was added to
the catalog. I do not think member WoutR had a sealed set to use for those changes,
but was basing it off of assumptions from images. Since you have a sealed set,
the changes you are making will take precedence over the other changes. I will
make the adjustments manually after going through your requests.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 21:06 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 160-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, palenjo writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 3 Part 737ac02 Red Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open for Magnet with Blue Magnet Coupling, Train - 7mm Cylinder (737a / x547b) (Alternate)
* Add 3 Part 737ac01 Red Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open for Magnet with Same Color Magnet Coupling, Train - 7mm Cylinder (737a / x547b) (Alternate)
Comments from Submitter:
In my unopened set the cylinders are short. Don't know if I should suggest it as alternate part or regular part. I have photos, but can't see on this page how to add them. Johan
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Hi there, Johan!
Did you measure the length of all of the red and blue cylinders to make sure
they were all 7mm long?
Thanks,
Randy
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| Author: | bb1429717 | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 19:19 | | Subject: | 700e H Baseplate? | | Viewed: | 104 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| In the catalog I see there are a few varients of the 700e early baseplate, but
I recently ran across a couple with numbers that werent in the catolog. They
are most similar to the 700eD plates, but to have different featured like the
shape of the cross supports where they cross, and are marked '700 e H'
on the bottom.
Should The 700e H varient be added and/or does anyone know anything about this
baseplate? (sorry I'm very new here or I would attempt to add it myself)
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 19:14 | | Subject: | Re: inventory question | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In General, mattallica writes:
| | recently i have been buying some Duplo figures for my son and have noted that
figures like Batman that have a cape are inventoried without them meaning to
get a complete figure you must buy the cape separately.
why is this? minifigs come with their capes?
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Duplo figures have historically not been inventoried with their capes, and I
honestly don't know why. It is something that should probably be added to
the Catalog Roadmap for consideration of being changed.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | mr.misior | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 18:37 | | Subject: | Re: holographic tile ID please | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, cycbuild writes:
| | In Catalog, mr.misior writes:
| | could someone please tell me which set this belongs to.
the face is holographic and only visible at certain angle.
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thank you!
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| Author: | mattallica | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 18:22 | | Subject: | inventory question | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| recently i have been buying some Duplo figures for my son and have noted that
figures like Batman that have a cape are inventoried without them meaning to
get a complete figure you must buy the cape separately.
why is this? minifigs come with their capes?
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| Author: | cycbuild | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 18:17 | | Subject: | Re: holographic tile ID please | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, mr.misior writes:
| | could someone please tell me which set this belongs to.
the face is holographic and only visible at certain angle.
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| Author: | mr.misior | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 18:14 | | Subject: | holographic tile ID please | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| could someone please tell me which set this belongs to.
the face is holographic and only visible at certain angle.
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| Author: | xoshimin | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 17:09 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 9680-1 | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 16 Part x90 Yellow Rubber Belt Extra Large (Round Cross Section) - Approx. 5 x 5 (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Add 8 Part 32012 Dark Bluish Gray Technic Reel 3 x 2 (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 8 Part 30000 Dark Bluish Gray Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Pins and Axle Hole (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Add 8 Part 30395 Dark Bluish Gray Hook with Towball (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Add 8 Part 6575 Dark Bluish Gray Technic Cam (Alternate) (match ID 5)
* Add 8 Part 2854 Dark Bluish Gray Technic Engine Crankshaft Center (Alternate) (match ID 6)
* Add 8 Part 6587 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Axle 3 with Stud (Alternate) (match ID 7)
* Add 24 Part 32002 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Pin 3/4 (Alternate) (match ID 8)
* Add 4 Part 43362c01 Light Bluish Gray Electric, Motor 9V Mini-Motor, newer lighter weight (Alternate) (match ID 9)
* Add 40 Part 3713 Light Bluish Gray Technic Bush (Alternate) (match ID 10)
* Add 16 Part 4265c Light Bluish Gray Technic Bush 1/2 Smooth (Alternate) (match ID 11)
* Add 8 Part 6553 Light Bluish Gray Technic Pole Reverser Handle (Alternate) (match ID 12)
* Add 16 Part 4185 Light Bluish Gray Technic Wedge Belt Wheel (Pulley) (Alternate) (match ID 13)
* Add 8 Part 4519 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Axle 3 (Alternate) (match ID 14)
* Add 8 Part 32073 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Axle 5 (Alternate) (match ID 15)
* Add 8 Part 6536 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Axle and Pin Connector Perpendicular (Alternate) (match ID 16)
* Add 8 Part 6538b Light Bluish Gray Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation) (Alternate) (match ID 17)
* Add 8 Part 32039 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Axle Connector with Axle Hole (Alternate) (match ID 18)
* Add 8 Part 3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth Type 1 (Alternate) (match ID 19)
* Add 20 Part 3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole) (Alternate) (match ID 20)
* Add 8 Part 3649 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 40 Tooth (Alternate) (match ID 21)
* Add 8 Part 6632 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Liftarm 1 x 3 Thin (Alternate) (match ID 22)
* Add 8 Part 2825 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Liftarm 1 x 4 Thin with Stud Connector (Alternate) (match ID 23)
* Add 12 Part 32017 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Liftarm 1 x 5 Thin (Alternate) (match ID 24)
* Add 8 Part 4274 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin 1/2 (Alternate) (match ID 25)
* Add 24 Part 3673 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin without Friction Ridges Lengthwise (Alternate) (match ID 26)
* Add 8 Part 3736 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Steering Pulley Large (Alternate) (match ID 27)
* Add 4 Gear 4125807 Trans-Clear Dacta Sorting Tray - 14 Compartment (Fits with bin01 and bin03) (Alternate) (match ID 28)
* Change 16 Part Black x90 Rubber Belt Extra Large (Round Cross Section) - Approx. 5 x 5 {match ID 0 to 1}
* Change 8 Part Blue 32012 Technic Reel 3 x 2 {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 8 Part Dark Gray 30000 Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Pins and Axle Hole {match ID 0 to 3}
* Change 8 Part Dark Gray 30395 Hook with Towball {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 8 Part Dark Gray 6575 Technic Cam {match ID 0 to 5}
* Change 8 Part Dark Gray 2854 Technic Engine Crankshaft Center {match ID 0 to 6}
* Change 8 Part Dark Gray 6587 Technic, Axle 3 with Stud {match ID 0 to 7}
* Change 24 Part Dark Gray 32002 Technic, Pin 3/4 {match ID 0 to 8}
* Change 4 Part Light Gray 43362c01 Electric, Motor 9V Mini-Motor, newer lighter weight {match ID 0 to 9}
* Change 40 Part Light Gray 3713 Technic Bush {match ID 0 to 10}
* Change 16 Part Light Gray 4265c Technic Bush 1/2 Smooth {match ID 0 to 11}
* Change 8 Part Light Gray 6553 Technic Pole Reverser Handle {match ID 0 to 12}
* Change 16 Part Light Gray 4185 Technic Wedge Belt Wheel (Pulley) {match ID 0 to 13}
* Change 8 Part Light Gray 4519 Technic, Axle 3 {match ID 0 to 14}
* Change 8 Part Light Gray 32073 Technic, Axle 5 {match ID 0 to 15}
* Change 8 Part Light Gray 6536 Technic, Axle and Pin Connector Perpendicular {match ID 0 to 16}
* Change 8 Part Light Gray 6538b Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation) {match ID 0 to 17}
* Change 8 Part Light Gray 32039 Technic, Axle Connector with Axle Hole {match ID 0 to 18}
* Change 8 Part Light Gray 3647 Technic, Gear 8 Tooth Type 1 {match ID 0 to 19}
* Change 20 Part Light Gray 3648 Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole) {match ID 0 to 20}
* Change 8 Part Light Gray 3649 Technic, Gear 40 Tooth {match ID 0 to 21}
* Change 8 Part Light Gray 6632 Technic, Liftarm 1 x 3 Thin {match ID 0 to 22}
* Change 8 Part Light Gray 2825 Technic, Liftarm 1 x 4 Thin with Stud Connector {match ID 0 to 23}
* Change 12 Part Light Gray 32017 Technic, Liftarm 1 x 5 Thin {match ID 0 to 24}
* Change 8 Part Light Gray 4274 Technic, Pin 1/2 {match ID 0 to 25}
* Change 24 Part Light Gray 3673 Technic, Pin without Friction Ridges Lengthwise {match ID 0 to 26}
* Change 8 Part Light Gray 3736 Technic, Steering Pulley Large {match ID 0 to 27}
* Change 4 Gear Blue 4125807 Dacta Sorting Tray - 14 Compartment (Fits with bin01 and bin03) {match ID 0 to 28}
Comments from Submitter:
Year Released 2003 year
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 15:10 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7531-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part clikits079 Trans-Very Lt Blue Clikits Icon, Heart 2 x 2 Large with Hole (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Add 1 Part clikits021 Trans-Very Lt Blue Clikits Part Separator (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Change 2 Part {Dark Pink to Trans-Dark Pink} clikits080 Clikits Flexy Film, Heart 4 x 4 with Raised Border
* Change 2 Part {Medium Orange to Trans-Light Orange} clikits081 Clikits Flexy Film, Flower 10 Petals 4 x 4 with Raised Border
* Change 4 Part Trans-Bright Green {clikits005u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Hole - (Undetermined Version) to clikits005a Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Hole, Frosted (Solid and Transparent Colors)}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Bright Green {clikits004u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin - (Undetermined Version) to clikits004a Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Frosted (Solid and Transparent Colors)}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Dark Pink {clikits005u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Hole - (Undetermined Version) to clikits005b Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Hole, Polished (Transparent Colors Only)}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Dark Pink {clikits004u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin - (Undetermined Version) to clikits004a Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Frosted (Solid and Transparent Colors)}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Light Blue clikits079 Clikits Icon, Heart 2 x 2 Large with Hole {match ID 0 to 1}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Light Blue {clikits013u Clikits Icon, Star 2 x 2 Small with Pin - (Undetermined Version) to clikits013b Clikits Icon, Star 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Polished (Transparent Colors Only)}
* Change 1 Part Trans-Light Blue clikits021 Clikits Part Separator {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Light Orange {clikits005u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Hole - (Undetermined Version) to clikits005b Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Hole, Polished (Transparent Colors Only)}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Light Orange {clikits004u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin - (Undetermined Version) to clikits004b Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Polished (Transparent Colors Only)}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Neon Yellow {clikits005u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Hole - (Undetermined Version) to clikits005b Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Hole, Polished (Transparent Colors Only)}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Neon Yellow {clikits004u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin - (Undetermined Version) to clikits004b Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Polished (Transparent Colors Only)}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Purple {clikits013u Clikits Icon, Star 2 x 2 Small with Pin - (Undetermined Version) to clikits013b Clikits Icon, Star 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Polished (Transparent Colors Only)}
Comments from Submitter:
I personally think you should consider deleting 171233 and 171207, but it is impossible to prove that it never happened that way.
I have a bunch of pics to attach.
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Since
[p=clikits079]
only appears in this one set as Trans-Light Blue and the image of it absolutely
looks like Trans-Very Light Blue, I agree with your assessment to get rid of
the Trans-Light Blue part.
Cheers,
Randy
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I also agree with the assessment for removing
[p=clikits021]
in Trans-Light Blue. I don't think a Trans-Light Blue one exists.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 14:41 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7531-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part clikits079 Trans-Very Lt Blue Clikits Icon, Heart 2 x 2 Large with Hole (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Add 1 Part clikits021 Trans-Very Lt Blue Clikits Part Separator (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Change 2 Part {Dark Pink to Trans-Dark Pink} clikits080 Clikits Flexy Film, Heart 4 x 4 with Raised Border
* Change 2 Part {Medium Orange to Trans-Light Orange} clikits081 Clikits Flexy Film, Flower 10 Petals 4 x 4 with Raised Border
* Change 4 Part Trans-Bright Green {clikits005u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Hole - (Undetermined Version) to clikits005a Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Hole, Frosted (Solid and Transparent Colors)}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Bright Green {clikits004u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin - (Undetermined Version) to clikits004a Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Frosted (Solid and Transparent Colors)}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Dark Pink {clikits005u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Hole - (Undetermined Version) to clikits005b Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Hole, Polished (Transparent Colors Only)}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Dark Pink {clikits004u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin - (Undetermined Version) to clikits004a Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Frosted (Solid and Transparent Colors)}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Light Blue clikits079 Clikits Icon, Heart 2 x 2 Large with Hole {match ID 0 to 1}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Light Blue {clikits013u Clikits Icon, Star 2 x 2 Small with Pin - (Undetermined Version) to clikits013b Clikits Icon, Star 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Polished (Transparent Colors Only)}
* Change 1 Part Trans-Light Blue clikits021 Clikits Part Separator {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Light Orange {clikits005u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Hole - (Undetermined Version) to clikits005b Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Hole, Polished (Transparent Colors Only)}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Light Orange {clikits004u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin - (Undetermined Version) to clikits004b Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Polished (Transparent Colors Only)}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Neon Yellow {clikits005u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Hole - (Undetermined Version) to clikits005b Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Hole, Polished (Transparent Colors Only)}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Neon Yellow {clikits004u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin - (Undetermined Version) to clikits004b Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Polished (Transparent Colors Only)}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Purple {clikits013u Clikits Icon, Star 2 x 2 Small with Pin - (Undetermined Version) to clikits013b Clikits Icon, Star 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Polished (Transparent Colors Only)}
Comments from Submitter:
I personally think you should consider deleting 171233 and 171207, but it is impossible to prove that it never happened that way.
I have a bunch of pics to attach.
|
Since
[p=clikits079]
only appears in this one set as Trans-Light Blue and the image of it absolutely
looks like Trans-Very Light Blue, I agree with your assessment to get rid of
the Trans-Light Blue part.
Cheers,
Randy
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 13:28 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | If you want to base the inventories on the consistent contents of the box, that
makes sense from a part-out viewpoint. But this policy does not guarantee that
will happen. It is determining what goes "inside" the box based on what's
printed on the outside of the box, and not what is actually included.
|
This set consistently had 234 parts that were included inside the box regardless
of where the set was produced and what was printed on the outside of the box
since it was just an amalgam of three other sets that had been repackaged. Therefore,
your argument is moot, and the inventory will stand as is.
|
No, this example does not invalidate what I am saying. It demonstrates how the
rule applied here, if applied consistently, could lead to inconsistencies in
the inventories. It gives you "accurate" results in this case, but this is only
one case. Had this set only been produced in Europe and had no part count on
the box, it would lead to a different inventory - IF the rule was consistently
applied.
On the other hand, if the extra part designation were eliminated completely,
and the foolish reliance on the imaginary "official" part count was also eliminated,
then it would have the same inventory whether or not there was a part count printed
on the box.
I'm just extending what we are being told is the sole intent of the inventories
on Bricklink - to document the contents of the box so that sellers can more efficiently
part them out. I don't agree this should be the sole intent, but it is what
it is. That being the case, why is there a need to build up ever-more complicated
policies which introduce apparent inconsistencies and rely on the whim of Lego
continuing a practice it has already shown it is willing to change?
|
You sure do like to flog a life-challenged equine. The set inventory will stand
as is. That is the final decision of the entire admin team.
|
It is telling that you think I'm calling for the inventory to be changed.
I'm not. The only change I've called for is the elimination of the extra
parts designation, since the admins have to dance around with sets like this
to explain why it is an apparent exception.
If that change were made, this set would stand exactly as it is. So really, I'm
calling for all other set inventories to follow what this one does - put everything
known to be in the box in the regular section.
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 13:10 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | The foolish policy to which I refer is the one that uses the "official parts
count" as the primary guide for what goes in the regular section when there is
no part list.
|
Regular Items - Parts required to build the main model and any secondary models
plus any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of an official
parts list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images on the
packaging are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of this section.
Where does it say anything about the official parts count being the primary guide?
It is listed first because it is the easiest and most useful thing to check.
There are cases where the instructions have the final say, e.g. in a situation
where the instructions call for a greater number of parts than the official parts
count.
|
It doesn't say it. This is my point. In this set, since there is no part
list, we are told that the regular items may be determined by the part count,
the instructions, etc.
In this set, using the instructions would give you one set of results that includes
extra parts, but using the part count gives you a different set of results that
does not include extra parts. There is a conflict. A choice has to be made on
which method to use. According to Randy, the part count trumps the instructions,
so that is the method that was used: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1147636
| |
| | That policy does not serve sellers who want to part out sets, because
there is no consistent way Lego has counted parts in the past, and part counts
are not included on all sets now.
|
LEGO part counts are exceptionally reliable. There are a few cases where things
don't line up, but for 99.9% of the cases they are spot on. We know that
some sets don't have them, but that is nothing new. Sets produced for the
European market in the 1970's never had them.
|
You are not accounting for the fact that Lego has changed what it calls a "part."
When trying to reconcile the "official" count with the number of individual items
in the box, you sometimes have to consider a minifig torso and head as one piece,
as Lego sometimes did. Or you have to leave out the flowers, because they are
not "interlocking" pieces and therefore not included in the total. Or you may
have to count individual stickers (which is the only way I can even get close
to 779 parts in the Yellow Castle).
So we ignore the part count in some instances, but use it to define the complete
set in others. Any rule that relies on exceptions for it to work is not a good
rule. It would be simpler to get rid of the extra parts section and obviate the
need for any such rule at all.
| |
| | That policy is not spelled out anywhere in the help pages. It is listed among
the possible sources in the absence of a part list, but it is not explained that
it is considered more important than the instructions.
|
It is spelled out as much as it needs to be. Any further details about how part
lists were counted slightly differently over the years or limitations of their
usefulness are matters of discussion among collectors. Please read these as examples:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1027168
https://www.bricklink.com/aboutMe.asp?u=viejos&pageID=16500
We're not going to put that level of detail in the Help Pages. Our Inv Admins
have access to this kind of information to help them make informed decisions,
but it's too much for the general BrickLink public.
|
It is noted that the official stance is that we just don't need to know how
these decisions are made.
| |
| | This case illustrates the foolishness of this policy. The criterion for including
these leftover parts in the regular section - and thereby including them in any
part-out and in requiring them to be present to sell the set as "complete" -
is a number printed on the package. If this set had been released just in Europe
with no part count on the box, those parts would be extras, could be excluded
from a part-out, and would not be required in a "complete" set.
|
Maybe, but probably not. We have other ways to determine what parts should be
considered regular, and one of them is related sets.
| | If you want to base the inventories on the consistent contents of the box, that
makes sense from a part-out viewpoint. But this policy does not guarantee that
will happen. It is determining what goes "inside" the box based on what's
printed on the outside of the box, and not what is actually included.
|
The parts count is just one tool out of many that we use. It is not used to remove
actual contents from a set, or to add things that were never there. BrickLink's
standard is a sealed set, and that's where we start from when building an
inventory.
|
I put "inside" in quotes, because I mean the theoretical set made up of regular
parts. This is what a "complete" used set is made up of. Parts are indeed moved
in and out of this "complete" set based on the arcane rules we are not to be
made aware of.
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 12:53 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | If you want to base the inventories on the consistent contents of the box, that
makes sense from a part-out viewpoint. But this policy does not guarantee that
will happen. It is determining what goes "inside" the box based on what's
printed on the outside of the box, and not what is actually included.
|
This set consistently had 234 parts that were included inside the box regardless
of where the set was produced and what was printed on the outside of the box
since it was just an amalgam of three other sets that had been repackaged. Therefore,
your argument is moot, and the inventory will stand as is.
|
No, this example does not invalidate what I am saying. It demonstrates how the
rule applied here, if applied consistently, could lead to inconsistencies in
the inventories. It gives you "accurate" results in this case, but this is only
one case. Had this set only been produced in Europe and had no part count on
the box, it would lead to a different inventory - IF the rule was consistently
applied.
On the other hand, if the extra part designation were eliminated completely,
and the foolish reliance on the imaginary "official" part count was also eliminated,
then it would have the same inventory whether or not there was a part count printed
on the box.
I'm just extending what we are being told is the sole intent of the inventories
on Bricklink - to document the contents of the box so that sellers can more efficiently
part them out. I don't agree this should be the sole intent, but it is what
it is. That being the case, why is there a need to build up ever-more complicated
policies which introduce apparent inconsistencies and rely on the whim of Lego
continuing a practice it has already shown it is willing to change?
|
You sure do like to flog a life-challenged equine. The set inventory will stand
as is. That is the final decision of the entire admin team.
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 12:33 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | If you want to base the inventories on the consistent contents of the box, that
makes sense from a part-out viewpoint. But this policy does not guarantee that
will happen. It is determining what goes "inside" the box based on what's
printed on the outside of the box, and not what is actually included.
|
This set consistently had 234 parts that were included inside the box regardless
of where the set was produced and what was printed on the outside of the box
since it was just an amalgam of three other sets that had been repackaged. Therefore,
your argument is moot, and the inventory will stand as is.
|
No, this example does not invalidate what I am saying. It demonstrates how the
rule applied here, if applied consistently, could lead to inconsistencies in
the inventories. It gives you "accurate" results in this case, but this is only
one case. Had this set only been produced in Europe and had no part count on
the box, it would lead to a different inventory - IF the rule was consistently
applied.
On the other hand, if the extra part designation were eliminated completely,
and the foolish reliance on the imaginary "official" part count was also eliminated,
then it would have the same inventory whether or not there was a part count printed
on the box.
I'm just extending what we are being told is the sole intent of the inventories
on Bricklink - to document the contents of the box so that sellers can more efficiently
part them out. I don't agree this should be the sole intent, but it is what
it is. That being the case, why is there a need to build up ever-more complicated
policies which introduce apparent inconsistencies and rely on the whim of Lego
continuing a practice it has already shown it is willing to change?
|
|
| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 12:25 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
|
BrickLink
ID CardAdmin_Russell
|
Location:  USA, California |
| Member Since |
Contact |
Type |
Status |
| May 9, 2017 |
 |
Admin |
|
|
| BrickLink Administrator |
|
| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | The foolish policy to which I refer is the one that uses the "official parts
count" as the primary guide for what goes in the regular section when there is
no part list.
|
Regular Items - Parts required to build the main model and any secondary models
plus any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of an official
parts list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images on the
packaging are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of this section.
Where does it say anything about the official parts count being the primary guide?
It is listed first because it is the easiest and most useful thing to check.
There are cases where the instructions have the final say, e.g. in a situation
where the instructions call for a greater number of parts than the official parts
count.
| | That policy does not serve sellers who want to part out sets, because
there is no consistent way Lego has counted parts in the past, and part counts
are not included on all sets now.
|
LEGO part counts are exceptionally reliable. There are a few cases where things
don't line up, but for 99.9% of the cases they are spot on. We know that
some sets don't have them, but that is nothing new. Sets produced for the
European market in the 1970's never had them.
| | That policy is not spelled out anywhere in the help pages. It is listed among
the possible sources in the absence of a part list, but it is not explained that
it is considered more important than the instructions.
|
It is spelled out as much as it needs to be. Any further details about how part
lists were counted slightly differently over the years or limitations of their
usefulness are matters of discussion among collectors. Please read these as examples:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1027168
https://www.bricklink.com/aboutMe.asp?u=viejos&pageID=16500
We're not going to put that level of detail in the Help Pages. Our Inv Admins
have access to this kind of information to help them make informed decisions,
but it's too much for the general BrickLink public.
| | This case illustrates the foolishness of this policy. The criterion for including
these leftover parts in the regular section - and thereby including them in any
part-out and in requiring them to be present to sell the set as "complete" -
is a number printed on the package. If this set had been released just in Europe
with no part count on the box, those parts would be extras, could be excluded
from a part-out, and would not be required in a "complete" set.
|
Maybe, but probably not. We have other ways to determine what parts should be
considered regular, and one of them is related sets.
| | If you want to base the inventories on the consistent contents of the box, that
makes sense from a part-out viewpoint. But this policy does not guarantee that
will happen. It is determining what goes "inside" the box based on what's
printed on the outside of the box, and not what is actually included.
|
The parts count is just one tool out of many that we use. It is not used to remove
actual contents from a set, or to add things that were never there. BrickLink's
standard is a sealed set, and that's where we start from when building an
inventory.
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 12:22 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7502-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
|
| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part clikits003 Trans-Orange Clikits Bead, Ring Thick Small with Hole (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Add 1 Part clikits011 Trans-Orange Clikits Frame, Square with 3 x 3 Holes Arrangement (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Change 1 Part {Light Salmon to Trans-Light Orange} clikits034 Clikits Flexy Film, Flower 10 Petals 3 x 3
* Change 1 Part {Light Salmon to Trans-Light Orange} clikits035 Clikits Flexy Film, Flower 10 Petals 4.5 x 4.5
* Change 2 Part Trans-Light Orange clikits003 Clikits Bead, Ring Thick Small with Hole {match ID 0 to 1}
* Change 1 Part Trans-Light Orange clikits011 Clikits Frame, Square with 3 x 3 Holes Arrangement {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 4 Part Trans-Neon Yellow {clikits005u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Hole - (Undetermined Version) to clikits005a Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Hole, Frosted (Solid and Transparent Colors)}
Comments from Submitter:
Pics to follow
|
The Trans-Light Orange parts were all classified in the inventory as Trans-Neon
Orange originally until member WoutR changed them to Trans-Light Orange after
having the color added to the BrickLink catalog. I believe his changes were based
on images of the set instead of actual sealed set contents, so I am going to
accept your changes and then manually remove the Trans-Light Orange parts.
Cheers,
Randy
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 11:43 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | If you want to base the inventories on the consistent contents of the box, that
makes sense from a part-out viewpoint. But this policy does not guarantee that
will happen. It is determining what goes "inside" the box based on what's
printed on the outside of the box, and not what is actually included.
|
This set consistently had 234 parts that were included inside the box regardless
of where the set was produced and what was printed on the outside of the box
since it was just an amalgam of three other sets that had been repackaged. Therefore,
your argument is moot, and the inventory will stand as is.
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 10:01 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | | | If there is nothing that can be done to stop this misguided inventory policy,
it would at least be useful to have it explained in the help pages. I hear a
lot of lip service being paid to consistency, but these policies are still opaque
and arcane to anyone trying to understand them from what is written, and as such
their application appears very inconsistent.
|
As this set demonstrates, the designation of "extra" items is essentially meaningless,
since the policy now is to document the contents of the box and not the parts
needed to build the models. The simplest thing to do to avoid confusion and the
appearance of inconsistency is to eliminate the extra parts designation entirely.
Of course that might mean apparent conflicts with what you are calling "official"
part counts, but you can't have it both ways. It appears that items are just
being moved from extra to regular or vice versa simply to make the BL inventory
count match the number that sometimes appears on some boxes in some parts of
the world.
|
| | That is a foolish policy because history has shown us that Lego has changed how
they count parts in the past. If they do it again in the future, we will be faced
with a dilemma.
The previous method of designating extra parts was unique to BL and would still
work no matter what Lego did. That method has been abandoned, and it was a shortsighted
mistake.
|
These policies are grounded in a thorough and correct understanding of LEGO history
in addition to the practical considerations of running a site that sells parts.
When you examine the change log of this inventory, you will see that as far as
extra parts goes, it has remained exactly the same as it was on the day it was
approved in July 2005. That was 14 years ago. Meaning that the extras policy
the admins are defending today is the same one used to create this inventory
all those years ago.
There was no “previous method”. There were some people who (after Dan passed
away) tried to change the way things were done, and for a short while it may
have seemed like there was some sort of new policy. But there was simply no easy
way to change everything the site had done up until that point to accommodate
a new way of defining extra pieces, so this idea of a new extras policy was confined
to a small subset of parts and an even smaller subset of sets that happened to
get inventoried at that time.
BrickLink has always preferred to document the contents of the box vs the parts
necessary to build the set. This is because BrickLink was from the a beginning
a site primarily designed to sell parts, and the inventory system was designed
primarily to part out sets. Sellers parting out sets don’t necessarily care whether
or not parts are used in the instructions. They want a list of parts that they
can upload efficiently to their store inventory and sell.
Initially there was no Extras section, and everything was placed in the regular
section. There is reams of evidence in the change logs to prove this. The Extras
section was designed to handle parts with variable presence so that sellers could
either exclude them categorically or treat them with special care during the
partout process. Parts that invariably came in a set were deemed regular parts.
Those that may or may not have been included were called extras.
Fast forward to several years ago when I was grappling with the task of more
firmly defining the rules for inventories (mainly so that conversations like
this wouldn’t have to take place). The site needed a standard to align itself
with, and it needed to be one that both sellers and collectors could live with.
A very small adjustment consisting of some rubber band holders and a few stacking
pins was all that was necessary to align the traditional partout-focused policy
with the historical practices of the LEGO Group.
So that’s where we are today, and it doesn’t seem shortsighted at all, at least
to me. I actually tried to envision what an instructions-based policy would look
like and where it would lead us. But we’ve got so many sets where there are no
instructions or the instructions only use a certain percentage of the pieces.
And when something is listed in a published parts list, it’s really not in the
site’s best interests to encourage sellers to leave those parts out of what is
considered a “complete” set. It’s just asking for problems.
|
The foolish policy to which I refer is the one that uses the "official parts
count" as the primary guide for what goes in the regular section when there is
no part list. That policy does not serve sellers who want to part out sets, because
there is no consistent way Lego has counted parts in the past, and part counts
are not included on all sets now.
That policy is not spelled out anywhere in the help pages. It is listed among
the possible sources in the absence of a part list, but it is not explained that
it is considered more important than the instructions.
This case illustrates the foolishness of this policy. The criterion for including
these leftover parts in the regular section - and thereby including them in any
part-out and in requiring them to be present to sell the set as "complete" -
is a number printed on the package. If this set had been released just in Europe
with no part count on the box, those parts would be extras, could be excluded
from a part-out, and would not be required in a "complete" set.
If you want to base the inventories on the consistent contents of the box, that
makes sense from a part-out viewpoint. But this policy does not guarantee that
will happen. It is determining what goes "inside" the box based on what's
printed on the outside of the box, and not what is actually included.
|
|
| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 07:04 | | Subject: | Brand filters (again!) | | Viewed: | 153 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
|
| The AFOL sets are not real LEGO sets, right?
Have they been catalogued incorrectly or are the filters not working correctly?
|
|
|
| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 03:00 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 78 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
|
BrickLink
ID CardAdmin_Russell
|
| Location: USA, California |
| Member Since |
Contact |
Type |
Status |
| May 9, 2017 |
|
Admin |
|
|
| BrickLink Administrator |
|
| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | | | If there is nothing that can be done to stop this misguided inventory policy,
it would at least be useful to have it explained in the help pages. I hear a
lot of lip service being paid to consistency, but these policies are still opaque
and arcane to anyone trying to understand them from what is written, and as such
their application appears very inconsistent.
|
As this set demonstrates, the designation of "extra" items is essentially meaningless,
since the policy now is to document the contents of the box and not the parts
needed to build the models. The simplest thing to do to avoid confusion and the
appearance of inconsistency is to eliminate the extra parts designation entirely.
Of course that might mean apparent conflicts with what you are calling "official"
part counts, but you can't have it both ways. It appears that items are just
being moved from extra to regular or vice versa simply to make the BL inventory
count match the number that sometimes appears on some boxes in some parts of
the world.
|
| | That is a foolish policy because history has shown us that Lego has changed how
they count parts in the past. If they do it again in the future, we will be faced
with a dilemma.
The previous method of designating extra parts was unique to BL and would still
work no matter what Lego did. That method has been abandoned, and it was a shortsighted
mistake.
|
These policies are grounded in a thorough and correct understanding of LEGO history
in addition to the practical considerations of running a site that sells parts.
When you examine the change log of this inventory, you will see that as far as
extra parts goes, it has remained exactly the same as it was on the day it was
approved in July 2005. That was 14 years ago. Meaning that the extras policy
the admins are defending today is the same one used to create this inventory
all those years ago.
There was no “previous method”. There were some people who (after Dan passed
away) tried to change the way things were done, and for a short while it may
have seemed like there was some sort of new policy. But there was simply no easy
way to change everything the site had done up until that point to accommodate
a new way of defining extra pieces, so this idea of a new extras policy was confined
to a small subset of parts and an even smaller subset of sets that happened to
get inventoried at that time.
BrickLink has always preferred to document the contents of the box vs the parts
necessary to build the set. This is because BrickLink was from the a beginning
a site primarily designed to sell parts, and the inventory system was designed
primarily to part out sets. Sellers parting out sets don’t necessarily care whether
or not parts are used in the instructions. They want a list of parts that they
can upload efficiently to their store inventory and sell.
Initially there was no Extras section, and everything was placed in the regular
section. There is reams of evidence in the change logs to prove this. The Extras
section was designed to handle parts with variable presence so that sellers could
either exclude them categorically or treat them with special care during the
partout process. Parts that invariably came in a set were deemed regular parts.
Those that may or may not have been included were called extras.
Fast forward to several years ago when I was grappling with the task of more
firmly defining the rules for inventories (mainly so that conversations like
this wouldn’t have to take place). The site needed a standard to align itself
with, and it needed to be one that both sellers and collectors could live with.
A very small adjustment consisting of some rubber band holders and a few stacking
pins was all that was necessary to align the traditional partout-focused policy
with the historical practices of the LEGO Group.
So that’s where we are today, and it doesn’t seem shortsighted at all, at least
to me. I actually tried to envision what an instructions-based policy would look
like and where it would lead us. But we’ve got so many sets where there are no
instructions or the instructions only use a certain percentage of the pieces.
And when something is listed in a published parts list, it’s really not in the
site’s best interests to encourage sellers to leave those parts out of what is
considered a “complete” set. It’s just asking for problems.
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 22:18 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
Thanks for the explanation. This could probably use an inventory note to explain
the reason for these extra parts. But I'll leave that until Randy is back
from holiday because he seems to be a bit more familiar with this set than I
am.
|
Hey Paul -
I am now back and have access to writing on an actual keyboard instead of my
phone! Fortunately for me, Fred already laid out exactly why the inventory is
the way it is.
As he stated, this set was a repackaging of three earlier kits and some of the
parts were not used in the build for the repackaged set. However, the official
part count on this set included all of the parts from the original three kits
and were included in every set. Because of this, they are treated as Regular
Items. I will go ahead and add an inventory note to this set.
Cheers,
Randy
|
The rules that define regular and extra parts do not mention the "official" part
count in the criteria. Why is an exception made for this set? Those leftover
parts should be extra parts. They are not in the build and there is no parts
list for this set in the instructions or box.
Parts counts primarily only appear on North American sets. They are not determined
in a consistent way by Lego.
|
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Regular Items - Parts required to build the main model and any secondary
models plus any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of
an official parts list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images
on the packaging are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of
this section.
|
OK, so the parts count trumps the instructions in determining a regular part?
|
Yes.
|
If there is nothing that can be done to stop this misguided inventory policy,
it would at least be useful to have it explained in the help pages. I hear a
lot of lip service being paid to consistency, but these policies are still opaque
and arcane to anyone trying to understand them from what is written, and as such
their application appears very inconsistent.
|
It is explained right there in the text above. This policy has also been applied
consistently since it was rewritten and agreed upon by the admin team. All inventories
are being adjusted towards it as change requests for inventories come in. The
admins have also taken it upon themselves to adjust inventories as we have time.
Lastly, we have quite a few people that are helping to adjust inventories and
we thank them very much for their contributions. You know who you are.
|
I disagree that it is spelled out. In this instance there is no parts list, but
there are instructions and there is a part count. Those two sources of information
conflict. It is not spelled out in the policy that in this instance the part
count is what prevails. It may be written down in your own procedures but it
is not at all clear in the public information.
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 22:13 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
Thanks for the explanation. This could probably use an inventory note to explain
the reason for these extra parts. But I'll leave that until Randy is back
from holiday because he seems to be a bit more familiar with this set than I
am.
|
Hey Paul -
I am now back and have access to writing on an actual keyboard instead of my
phone! Fortunately for me, Fred already laid out exactly why the inventory is
the way it is.
As he stated, this set was a repackaging of three earlier kits and some of the
parts were not used in the build for the repackaged set. However, the official
part count on this set included all of the parts from the original three kits
and were included in every set. Because of this, they are treated as Regular
Items. I will go ahead and add an inventory note to this set.
Cheers,
Randy
|
The rules that define regular and extra parts do not mention the "official" part
count in the criteria. Why is an exception made for this set? Those leftover
parts should be extra parts. They are not in the build and there is no parts
list for this set in the instructions or box.
Parts counts primarily only appear on North American sets. They are not determined
in a consistent way by Lego.
|
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Regular Items - Parts required to build the main model and any secondary
models plus any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of
an official parts list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images
on the packaging are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of
this section.
|
OK, so the parts count trumps the instructions in determining a regular part?
|
Yes.
|
If there is nothing that can be done to stop this misguided inventory policy,
it would at least be useful to have it explained in the help pages. I hear a
lot of lip service being paid to consistency, but these policies are still opaque
and arcane to anyone trying to understand them from what is written, and as such
their application appears very inconsistent.
|
As this set demonstrates, the designation of "extra" items is essentially meaningless,
since the policy now is to document the contents of the box and not the parts
needed to build the models. The simplest thing to do to avoid confusion and the
appearance of inconsistency is to eliminate the extra parts designation entirely.
Of course that might mean apparent conflicts with what you are calling "official"
part counts, but you can't have it both ways. It appears that items are just
being moved from extra to regular or vice versa simply to make the BL inventory
count match the number that sometimes appears on some boxes in some parts of
the world.
That is a foolish policy because history has shown us that Lego has changed how
they count parts in the past. If they do it again in the future, we will be faced
with a dilemma.
The previous method of designating extra parts was unique to BL and would still
work no matter what Lego did. That method has been abandoned, and it was a shortsighted
mistake.
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 22:01 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
Thanks for the explanation. This could probably use an inventory note to explain
the reason for these extra parts. But I'll leave that until Randy is back
from holiday because he seems to be a bit more familiar with this set than I
am.
|
Hey Paul -
I am now back and have access to writing on an actual keyboard instead of my
phone! Fortunately for me, Fred already laid out exactly why the inventory is
the way it is.
As he stated, this set was a repackaging of three earlier kits and some of the
parts were not used in the build for the repackaged set. However, the official
part count on this set included all of the parts from the original three kits
and were included in every set. Because of this, they are treated as Regular
Items. I will go ahead and add an inventory note to this set.
Cheers,
Randy
|
The rules that define regular and extra parts do not mention the "official" part
count in the criteria. Why is an exception made for this set? Those leftover
parts should be extra parts. They are not in the build and there is no parts
list for this set in the instructions or box.
Parts counts primarily only appear on North American sets. They are not determined
in a consistent way by Lego.
|
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Regular Items - Parts required to build the main model and any secondary
models plus any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of
an official parts list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images
on the packaging are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of
this section.
|
OK, so the parts count trumps the instructions in determining a regular part?
|
Yes.
|
If there is nothing that can be done to stop this misguided inventory policy,
it would at least be useful to have it explained in the help pages. I hear a
lot of lip service being paid to consistency, but these policies are still opaque
and arcane to anyone trying to understand them from what is written, and as such
their application appears very inconsistent.
|
It is explained right there in the text above. This policy has also been applied
consistently since it was rewritten and agreed upon by the admin team. All inventories
are being adjusted towards it as change requests for inventories come in. The
admins have also taken it upon themselves to adjust inventories as we have time.
Lastly, we have quite a few people that are helping to adjust inventories and
we thank them very much for their contributions. You know who you are.
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 21:37 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
Thanks for the explanation. This could probably use an inventory note to explain
the reason for these extra parts. But I'll leave that until Randy is back
from holiday because he seems to be a bit more familiar with this set than I
am.
|
Hey Paul -
I am now back and have access to writing on an actual keyboard instead of my
phone! Fortunately for me, Fred already laid out exactly why the inventory is
the way it is.
As he stated, this set was a repackaging of three earlier kits and some of the
parts were not used in the build for the repackaged set. However, the official
part count on this set included all of the parts from the original three kits
and were included in every set. Because of this, they are treated as Regular
Items. I will go ahead and add an inventory note to this set.
Cheers,
Randy
|
The rules that define regular and extra parts do not mention the "official" part
count in the criteria. Why is an exception made for this set? Those leftover
parts should be extra parts. They are not in the build and there is no parts
list for this set in the instructions or box.
Parts counts primarily only appear on North American sets. They are not determined
in a consistent way by Lego.
|
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Regular Items - Parts required to build the main model and any secondary
models plus any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of
an official parts list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images
on the packaging are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of
this section.
|
OK, so the parts count trumps the instructions in determining a regular part?
|
Yes.
|
If there is nothing that can be done to stop this misguided inventory policy,
it would at least be useful to have it explained in the help pages. I hear a
lot of lip service being paid to consistency, but these policies are still opaque
and arcane to anyone trying to understand them from what is written, and as such
their application appears very inconsistent.
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 21:25 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
Thanks for the explanation. This could probably use an inventory note to explain
the reason for these extra parts. But I'll leave that until Randy is back
from holiday because he seems to be a bit more familiar with this set than I
am.
|
Hey Paul -
I am now back and have access to writing on an actual keyboard instead of my
phone! Fortunately for me, Fred already laid out exactly why the inventory is
the way it is.
As he stated, this set was a repackaging of three earlier kits and some of the
parts were not used in the build for the repackaged set. However, the official
part count on this set included all of the parts from the original three kits
and were included in every set. Because of this, they are treated as Regular
Items. I will go ahead and add an inventory note to this set.
Cheers,
Randy
|
The rules that define regular and extra parts do not mention the "official" part
count in the criteria. Why is an exception made for this set? Those leftover
parts should be extra parts. They are not in the build and there is no parts
list for this set in the instructions or box.
Parts counts primarily only appear on North American sets. They are not determined
in a consistent way by Lego.
|
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Regular Items - Parts required to build the main model and any secondary
models plus any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of
an official parts list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images
on the packaging are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of
this section.
|
OK, so the parts count trumps the instructions in determining a regular part?
|
Yes.
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 21:23 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
Thanks for the explanation. This could probably use an inventory note to explain
the reason for these extra parts. But I'll leave that until Randy is back
from holiday because he seems to be a bit more familiar with this set than I
am.
|
Hey Paul -
I am now back and have access to writing on an actual keyboard instead of my
phone! Fortunately for me, Fred already laid out exactly why the inventory is
the way it is.
As he stated, this set was a repackaging of three earlier kits and some of the
parts were not used in the build for the repackaged set. However, the official
part count on this set included all of the parts from the original three kits
and were included in every set. Because of this, they are treated as Regular
Items. I will go ahead and add an inventory note to this set.
Cheers,
Randy
|
The rules that define regular and extra parts do not mention the "official" part
count in the criteria. Why is an exception made for this set? Those leftover
parts should be extra parts. They are not in the build and there is no parts
list for this set in the instructions or box.
Parts counts primarily only appear on North American sets. They are not determined
in a consistent way by Lego.
|
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Regular Items - Parts required to build the main model and any secondary
models plus any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of
an official parts list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images
on the packaging are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of
this section.
|
OK, so the parts count trumps the instructions in determining a regular part?
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 21:18 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
Thanks for the explanation. This could probably use an inventory note to explain
the reason for these extra parts. But I'll leave that until Randy is back
from holiday because he seems to be a bit more familiar with this set than I
am.
|
Hey Paul -
I am now back and have access to writing on an actual keyboard instead of my
phone! Fortunately for me, Fred already laid out exactly why the inventory is
the way it is.
As he stated, this set was a repackaging of three earlier kits and some of the
parts were not used in the build for the repackaged set. However, the official
part count on this set included all of the parts from the original three kits
and were included in every set. Because of this, they are treated as Regular
Items. I will go ahead and add an inventory note to this set.
Cheers,
Randy
|
The rules that define regular and extra parts do not mention the "official" part
count in the criteria. Why is an exception made for this set? Those leftover
parts should be extra parts. They are not in the build and there is no parts
list for this set in the instructions or box.
Parts counts primarily only appear on North American sets. They are not determined
in a consistent way by Lego.
|
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Regular Items - Parts required to build the main model and any secondary
models plus any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of
an official parts list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images
on the packaging are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of
this section.
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 21:11 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
Thanks for the explanation. This could probably use an inventory note to explain
the reason for these extra parts. But I'll leave that until Randy is back
from holiday because he seems to be a bit more familiar with this set than I
am.
|
Hey Paul -
I am now back and have access to writing on an actual keyboard instead of my
phone! Fortunately for me, Fred already laid out exactly why the inventory is
the way it is.
As he stated, this set was a repackaging of three earlier kits and some of the
parts were not used in the build for the repackaged set. However, the official
part count on this set included all of the parts from the original three kits
and were included in every set. Because of this, they are treated as Regular
Items. I will go ahead and add an inventory note to this set.
Cheers,
Randy
|
The rules that define regular and extra parts do not mention the "official" part
count in the criteria. Why is an exception made for this set? Those leftover
parts should be extra parts. They are not in the build and there is no parts
list for this set in the instructions or box.
Parts counts primarily only appear on North American sets. They are not determined
in a consistent way by Lego.
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 20:09 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
Thanks for the explanation. This could probably use an inventory note to explain
the reason for these extra parts. But I'll leave that until Randy is back
from holiday because he seems to be a bit more familiar with this set than I
am.
|
Hey Paul -
I am now back and have access to writing on an actual keyboard instead of my
phone! Fortunately for me, Fred already laid out exactly why the inventory is
the way it is.
As he stated, this set was a repackaging of three earlier kits and some of the
parts were not used in the build for the repackaged set. However, the official
part count on this set included all of the parts from the original three kits
and were included in every set. Because of this, they are treated as Regular
Items. I will go ahead and add an inventory note to this set.
Cheers,
Randy
|
|
| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 16:06 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 854-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
|
| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3650a Black Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (1st Version - Not Reinforced) (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Add 2 Part 3062a Red Brick, Round 1 x 1 Solid Stud (match ID 5)
* Add 2 Part 3673 Light Gray Technic, Pin without Friction Ridges Lengthwise (Extra)
* Change 1 Part Light Gray 3650a Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (1st Version - Not Reinforced) {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 2 Part Red 3062b Brick, Round 1 x 1 Open Stud {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 5}
* Change {1 to 2} Part Light Gray 3647 Technic, Gear 8 Tooth Type 1 {Extra to Regular}
|
Photos are courtesy of the owner of the shop "The Treasure Islan".
This is the very early rare copy of this set as the yellow-black sticker on the
lid says
"Constructional drawings on the back"
As far as I recall, the instructions are placed inside the flap cover in all
copies of technic series 85x.
In my own sealed copy (already sold), there were three gears
(I did my best to check the content from all angles and was convinced there were
only three, but my copy was sealed anyway). In this copy, there are four of them.
I requested to add the black gear
as alternate as this appeared in only few copies (the set was in market until
the end of 1984), similar to the inventory of the set
|
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 15:55 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 854-1 | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3650a Black Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (1st Version - Not Reinforced) (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Add 2 Part 3062a Red Brick, Round 1 x 1 Solid Stud (match ID 5)
* Add 2 Part 3673 Light Gray Technic, Pin without Friction Ridges Lengthwise (Extra)
* Change 1 Part Light Gray 3650a Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (1st Version - Not Reinforced) {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 2 Part Red 3062b Brick, Round 1 x 1 Open Stud {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 5}
* Change {1 to 2} Part Light Gray 3647 Technic, Gear 8 Tooth Type 1 {Extra to Regular}
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 14:21 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 814-2 | | Viewed: | 12 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 3183b Red Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with Towball Socket, Long, 4 Slots
* Add 1 Part 3183a Red Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with Towball Socket, Long, 2 Slots
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 14:17 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 814-2 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 3183b Red Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with Towball Socket, Long, 4 Slots
* Add 1 Part 3183a Red Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with Towball Socket, Long, 2 Slots
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| Author: | palenjo | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 13:47 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 160-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, palenjo writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 3 Part 737ac02 Red Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open for Magnet with Blue Magnet Coupling, Train - 7mm Cylinder (737a / x547b) (Alternate)
* Add 3 Part 737ac01 Red Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open for Magnet with Same Color Magnet Coupling, Train - 7mm Cylinder (737a / x547b) (Alternate)
Comments from Submitter:
In my unopened set the cylinders are short. Don't know if I should suggest it as alternate part or regular part. I have photos, but can't see on this page how to add them. Johan
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| Author: | pikachu3 | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 11:27 | | Subject: | Re: Distinguishing colours | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| Post pics here, maybe we can help identify them 
I also have an album of color photos here, if that helps: https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/albums/72157649729890049
In general, the best way is to look up the part itself on BrickLink and see which
colors it was actually released in.
In Colors, BarbaraH writes:
| | Is there an easy way to identify some of the more unusual colours? I know there's
a colour chart but I've a few bricks in a particular shade of blue that I
can't match with any of them 100% Similar problems with some yellows/oranges
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| Author: | msSquirrel | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 05:32 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 10538-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part crs036 Yellow Duplo Bulldozer Small with Disney Planes Drip Pattern with Ripper Claws (Counterpart)
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| Author: | Pippysblocks | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 04:56 | | Subject: | Re: Distinguishing colours | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| I think the best option is to collect a sample of parts to check against as it
can get tricky. This is one of my colour charts I've made with 2x4s
In Colors, BarbaraH writes:
| | Is there an easy way to identify some of the more unusual colours? I know there's
a colour chart but I've a few bricks in a particular shade of blue that I
can't match with any of them 100% Similar problems with some yellows/oranges
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