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 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
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 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 8416-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8416  Name: Forklift
* 
8416-1 (Inv) Forklift
729 Parts, 2005
Sets: Technic: Model: Construction

* Add 1 Part 4032b Red Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole - X Opening (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Light Bluish Gray {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 1 Part Red 4032 Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole {match ID 0 to 1}

Comments from Submitter:
Source: MISB-based set that were never mixed with other bricks.
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Apr 10, 2018 15:26
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8285-1
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In Inventories Requests, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
  In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8285  Name: Tow Truck
* 
8285-1 (Inv) Tow Truck
1879 Parts, 2006
Sets: Technic: Model: Traffic

* Change 2 Part Yellow {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}

Comments from Submitter:
Source: MISB-based set that has never been mixed with other bricks.

Two questions have arised after re-counting my set before putting it up for sale:

1) Part

 
Part No: 32181c02  Name: Technic, Shock Absorber 10L Damped (Undetermined Type)
* 
32181c02 Technic, Shock Absorber 10L Damped (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Technic, Shock Absorber
Marked for Deletion

says that the "spring type" is "undetermined", but there are no variants to choose
between. Shouldn't there be some? Attached is a picture of the part in my
set.

Yes, what ever happened to 32181c01? There is a 32181c03:
 
Part No: 32181c03  Name: Technic, Shock Absorber 10L Damped - No Spring
* 
32181c03 (Inv) Technic, Shock Absorber 10L Damped - No Spring
Parts: Technic, Shock Absorber
Looks like we need one that has a spring.


  2) After counting this set, I have 4 left over bricks: 1x black 32054, 2x black
41677, 1x LBG 6538c, and one brick is missing: 1x 32278. These extra/missing
parts seems to make up for the differences between the BL inventory and Peeron's
(I've actually verified Peeron's inventory some years ago). It seems
that BL's inventory corresponds with the parts list in the building instructions
but apparently, there are inconsistencies between this and the actual contents
of the box. I've tried counting the number of bricks required in the building
instructions for those four parts, but there are six books, and I can't make
any of the counts in either of the two models match any of BL's or Peeron's
counts. But how should I handle these missing/extra parts? (I can see that the
part I'm missing was added to the BL inventory in 2012 but not find the reason
why).

 
Part No: 32054  Name: Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges and Stop Bush
* 
32054 Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges and Stop Bush
Parts: Technic, Pin
 
Part No: 41677  Name: Technic, Liftarm Thin 1 x 2 - Axle Holes
* 
41677 Technic, Liftarm Thin 1 x 2 - Axle Holes
Parts: Technic, Liftarm
 
Part No: 6538c  Name: Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
* 
6538c Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
Parts: Technic, Connector
 
Part No: 32278  Name: Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 15
* 
32278 Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 15
Parts: Technic, Liftarm

/Jan

This other situation could be a case of multiple instructions. Check yours against
some of the others listed in databases. Brickset is a great resource for this
- there is a link there provided by Swooshable that will give you all the major
sources.

I already checked that but forgot to write it.

My instruction's seem to be identical to the ones on the LEGO website, and
the inventory count in book 3 are the same counts as BL's inventory (e.g.
37x 32278). But that list obviously don't match the actual contents of my
and the Peeron inventory authors box contents and the actual number of parts
needed for the build. I just recounted the number of 32278's used to build
the main model. It's 36 (my count for the secondary model is 35).

/Jan
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Apr 10, 2018 14:51
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8285-1
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In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
  In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8285  Name: Tow Truck
* 
8285-1 (Inv) Tow Truck
1879 Parts, 2006
Sets: Technic: Model: Traffic

* Change 2 Part Yellow {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}

Comments from Submitter:
Source: MISB-based set that has never been mixed with other bricks.

Two questions have arised after re-counting my set before putting it up for sale:

1) Part

 
Part No: 32181c02  Name: Technic, Shock Absorber 10L Damped (Undetermined Type)
* 
32181c02 Technic, Shock Absorber 10L Damped (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Technic, Shock Absorber
Marked for Deletion

says that the "spring type" is "undetermined", but there are no variants to choose
between. Shouldn't there be some? Attached is a picture of the part in my
set.

Yes, what ever happened to 32181c01? There is a 32181c03:
 
Part No: 32181c03  Name: Technic, Shock Absorber 10L Damped - No Spring
* 
32181c03 (Inv) Technic, Shock Absorber 10L Damped - No Spring
Parts: Technic, Shock Absorber
Looks like we need one that has a spring.


  2) After counting this set, I have 4 left over bricks: 1x black 32054, 2x black
41677, 1x LBG 6538c, and one brick is missing: 1x 32278. These extra/missing
parts seems to make up for the differences between the BL inventory and Peeron's
(I've actually verified Peeron's inventory some years ago). It seems
that BL's inventory corresponds with the parts list in the building instructions
but apparently, there are inconsistencies between this and the actual contents
of the box. I've tried counting the number of bricks required in the building
instructions for those four parts, but there are six books, and I can't make
any of the counts in either of the two models match any of BL's or Peeron's
counts. But how should I handle these missing/extra parts? (I can see that the
part I'm missing was added to the BL inventory in 2012 but not find the reason
why).

 
Part No: 32054  Name: Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges and Stop Bush
* 
32054 Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges and Stop Bush
Parts: Technic, Pin
 
Part No: 41677  Name: Technic, Liftarm Thin 1 x 2 - Axle Holes
* 
41677 Technic, Liftarm Thin 1 x 2 - Axle Holes
Parts: Technic, Liftarm
 
Part No: 6538c  Name: Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
* 
6538c Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
Parts: Technic, Connector
 
Part No: 32278  Name: Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 15
* 
32278 Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 15
Parts: Technic, Liftarm

/Jan

This other situation could be a case of multiple instructions. Check yours against
some of the others listed in databases. Brickset is a great resource for this
- there is a link there provided by Swooshable that will give you all the major
sources.
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Apr 10, 2018 14:20
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8285-1
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In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8285  Name: Tow Truck
* 
8285-1 (Inv) Tow Truck
1879 Parts, 2006
Sets: Technic: Model: Traffic

* Change 2 Part Yellow {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}

Comments from Submitter:
Source: MISB-based set that has never been mixed with other bricks.

Two questions have arised after re-counting my set before putting it up for sale:

1) Part

 
Part No: 32181c02  Name: Technic, Shock Absorber 10L Damped (Undetermined Type)
* 
32181c02 Technic, Shock Absorber 10L Damped (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Technic, Shock Absorber
Marked for Deletion

says that the "spring type" is "undetermined", but there are no variants to choose
between. Shouldn't there be some? Attached is a picture of the part in my
set.

2) After counting this set, I have 4 left over bricks: 1x black 32054, 2x black
41677, 1x LBG 6538c, and one brick is missing: 1x 32278. These extra/missing
parts seems to make up for the differences between the BL inventory and Peeron's
(I've actually verified Peeron's inventory some years ago). It seems
that BL's inventory corresponds with the parts list in the building instructions
but apparently, there are inconsistencies between this and the actual contents
of the box. I've tried counting the number of bricks required in the building
instructions for those four parts, but there are six books, and I can't make
any of the counts in either of the two models match any of BL's or Peeron's
counts. But how should I handle these missing/extra parts? (I can see that the
part I'm missing was added to the BL inventory in 2012 but not find the reason
why).

 
Part No: 32054  Name: Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges and Stop Bush
* 
32054 Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges and Stop Bush
Parts: Technic, Pin
 
Part No: 41677  Name: Technic, Liftarm Thin 1 x 2 - Axle Holes
* 
41677 Technic, Liftarm Thin 1 x 2 - Axle Holes
Parts: Technic, Liftarm
 
Part No: 6538c  Name: Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
* 
6538c Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
Parts: Technic, Connector
 
Part No: 32278  Name: Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 15
* 
32278 Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 15
Parts: Technic, Liftarm

/Jan
 
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8285  Name: Tow Truck
* 
8285-1 (Inv) Tow Truck
1879 Parts, 2006
Sets: Technic: Model: Traffic

* Change 2 Part Yellow {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}

Comments from Submitter:
Source: MISB-based set that has never been mixed with other bricks.
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Apr 10, 2018 13:50
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6411-1
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In a couple of the images in the upper-left corner you can definitely tell that
the palm trunks have the short connector:

Thanks for finding that. The short connector is what the original submitter
was wanting to add to the set and this along with maggiec's sealed set definitely
confirm it.

  Therefore, I think all of the evidence found in this thread added to the image
is sufficient to prove that the alternate existed.

The alternate is where the concern lies. The question is whether the set ever
came with the long connector and that is what has yet to be convincingly demonstrated.

I'm glad some headway is being made on these palm trunks. When they first
appeared in the catalog, I couldn't make head or tail as to where they fit
into the inventory system.
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 Posted: Apr 10, 2018 13:44
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In a couple of the images in the upper-left corner you can definitely tell that
the palm trunks have the short connector:

Thanks for finding that. The short connector is what the original submitter
was wanting to add to the set and this along with maggiec's sealed set definitely
confirm it.

  Therefore, I think all of the evidence found in this thread added to the image
is sufficient to prove that the alternate existed.

The alternate is where the concern lies. The question is whether the set ever
came with the long connector and that is what has yet to be convincingly demonstrated.
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 Posted: Apr 10, 2018 13:35
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, ParisianStore writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6411  Name: Sand Dollar Cafe
* 
6411-1 (Inv) Sand Dollar Cafe
140 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1992
Sets: Town: Paradisa

* Change 6 Part Brown {2536 Plant, Tree Palm Trunk to 2536b Plant, Tree Palm Trunk - Short Connector, no Axle Hole}

Comments from Submitter:
I have bought the set 6411 on Ebay and the real palm trunk seems to be 2436b (empty hole, no slots inside).
All the parts are original because many of them were still clutched together and some of them are yellowed.

Unfortunately, I decided not to approve this request. I think you're probably
right and I'd like to get the undetermined entry out of the set inventory,
but there's no point in doing so if it's based on a source that I consider
unreliable.

If you find more reliable information in the future, then please resubmit the
request.

Robert -

I found a BrickShelf gallery that documents a sealed set being opened:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=268792

In a couple of the images in the upper-left corner you can definitely tell that
the palm trunks have the short connector:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Rober-to/Town/6411/6411g.jpg
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Rober-to/Town/6411/6411i.jpg

Therefore, I think all of the evidence found in this thread added to the image
is sufficient to prove that the alternate existed.

Cheers,
Randy
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  I'll be looking through parts

While I'm thinking about it, terms like "Type 1" and "Type 2" are singularly
unhelpful. For example:

 
Part No: 4662  Name: Duplo Hook with Thin Bracing
* 
4662 Duplo Hook with Thin Bracing
Parts: DUPLO
 
Part No: 15449  Name: Duplo Hook with Thick Bracing
* 
15449 Duplo Hook with Thick Bracing
Parts: DUPLO

If I had a random Duplo hook, what about either catalog entry would let me know
which one I had? Nothing in the title, no notes, and no comparison images.

I think any catalog entries which specify an item is type 1 or type 2 should
be looked at more closely for possible improvement.

I tried changing a bunch of part names years ago that had "Type 1" or "Type 2",
etc. in them and all of them were rejected. I still think it is wholly uninformative
and useless to have such things in the names of parts.

Cheers,
Randy
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In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  The seller gp73 have this item, bought in 1974 with its original packaging.


In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 740  Name: 12V Transformer for 220V Pack
* 
740-2 (Inv) 12V Transformer for 220V Pack
1 Part, 1969
Sets: Train: Supplemental: 12V

* Add 1 Part 740 Light Gray Electric, Train 12V Transformer for 220V (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part Blue 740 Electric, Train 12V Transformer for 220V {match ID 0 to 1}

Right, I uploaded the light gray picture.
Maybe 'various color' ? As we do by the minifigs.


Stefaan

Speaking of pictures, it would be great if someone could upload a better photo
of the blue one.

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