Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | normann1974  | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2018 14:20 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8285-1 | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Yellow {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
Comments from Submitter:
Source: MISB-based set that has never been mixed with other bricks.
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Two questions have arised after re-counting my set before putting it up for sale:
1) Part
says that the "spring type" is "undetermined", but there are no variants to choose
between. Shouldn't there be some? Attached is a picture of the part in my
set.
2) After counting this set, I have 4 left over bricks: 1x black 32054, 2x black
41677, 1x LBG 6538c, and one brick is missing: 1x 32278. These extra/missing
parts seems to make up for the differences between the BL inventory and Peeron's
(I've actually verified Peeron's inventory some years ago). It seems
that BL's inventory corresponds with the parts list in the building instructions
but apparently, there are inconsistencies between this and the actual contents
of the box. I've tried counting the number of bricks required in the building
instructions for those four parts, but there are six books, and I can't make
any of the counts in either of the two models match any of BL's or Peeron's
counts. But how should I handle these missing/extra parts? (I can see that the
part I'm missing was added to the BL inventory in 2012 but not find the reason
why).
/Jan
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2018 13:51 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 8285-1 | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Yellow {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
Comments from Submitter:
Source: MISB-based set that has never been mixed with other bricks.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2018 13:44 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6411-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In a couple of the images in the upper-left corner you can definitely tell that
the palm trunks have the short connector:
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Thanks for finding that. The short connector is what the original submitter
was wanting to add to the set and this along with maggiec's sealed set definitely
confirm it.
| | Therefore, I think all of the evidence found in this thread added to the image
is sufficient to prove that the alternate existed.
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The alternate is where the concern lies. The question is whether the set ever
came with the long connector and that is what has yet to be convincingly demonstrated.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2018 13:35 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6411-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, ParisianStore writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 6 Part Brown {2536 Plant, Tree Palm Trunk to 2536b Plant, Tree Palm Trunk - Short Connector, no Axle Hole}
Comments from Submitter:
I have bought the set 6411 on Ebay and the real palm trunk seems to be 2436b (empty hole, no slots inside).
All the parts are original because many of them were still clutched together and some of them are yellowed.
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Unfortunately, I decided not to approve this request. I think you're probably
right and I'd like to get the undetermined entry out of the set inventory,
but there's no point in doing so if it's based on a source that I consider
unreliable.
If you find more reliable information in the future, then please resubmit the
request.
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Robert -
I found a BrickShelf gallery that documents a sealed set being opened:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=268792
In a couple of the images in the upper-left corner you can definitely tell that
the palm trunks have the short connector:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Rober-to/Town/6411/6411g.jpg
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Rober-to/Town/6411/6411i.jpg
Therefore, I think all of the evidence found in this thread added to the image
is sufficient to prove that the alternate existed.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2018 13:17 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6411-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | I'll be looking through parts
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While I'm thinking about it, terms like "Type 1" and "Type 2" are singularly
unhelpful. For example:
If I had a random Duplo hook, what about either catalog entry would let me know
which one I had? Nothing in the title, no notes, and no comparison images.
I think any catalog entries which specify an item is type 1 or type 2 should
be looked at more closely for possible improvement.
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I tried changing a bunch of part names years ago that had "Type 1" or "Type 2",
etc. in them and all of them were rejected. I still think it is wholly uninformative
and useless to have such things in the names of parts.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2018 12:35 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 740-2 | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | The seller gp73 have this item, bought in 1974 with its original packaging.
In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 740 Light Gray Electric, Train 12V Transformer for 220V (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part Blue 740 Electric, Train 12V Transformer for 220V {match ID 0 to 1}
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Right, I uploaded the light gray picture.
Maybe 'various color' ? As we do by the minifigs.
Stefaan
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Speaking of pictures, it would be great if someone could upload a better photo
of the blue one.
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| Author: | CrazyChris | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2018 05:48 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7824-1 | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Jojo writes:
| | Hello!
In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | To anyone reading this in the future, since these messages are permanently saved:
the finger hinges for this set have been moved around, added, and deleted in
nearly every possible way. They're fine now. Leave them alone. 
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Regardless of how often the inventory for this set has been changed in the past,
both hollow and closed studes on these hinges are possible to be in this set.
This means both versions should be included in the inventory, one as regular,
one as alternate. Since closed studes were the original when this set was released,
hollow studs were the "alternate" done by Lego themselves. There you have it.
Bye
Jojo
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I totally agree on that.
But in general, I‘ve given up on this issue.
Correcting the inventories could be done so fast and smoothly, if admins would
choose a better process...
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2018 03:47 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 740-2 | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
| | We you list it as part, you can select the right color like the minfig torso
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I thought that's what you may be referring to. The reason torsos (and many
other part assemblies) are inventoried this way is so that they can be easily
used in multiple inventories.
I don't believe variable color inventories are appropriate for sets in most
cases. It could be done, yes, but I think having the alternate color for parts
is more appropriate for most sets (including this one).
You may notice that even sets which could include a larger variety of colors
are not traditionally given a single variable-color part inventory:
And then sometimes you get only this (see inventory note):
| | As MISB set you don't know what you have inside, it can be blue or light
gray.
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Indeed that's true and the alternate part in the inventory will allow sellers
to part out the set depending on what color they find.
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| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2018 03:34 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 740-2 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
| | Maybe 'various color' ? As we do by the minifigs.
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I'm confused by what you're asking here. Can you elucidate?
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Robert
In this inventory we have the 'blue' and/or the 'light gray'
one.
But if we use 1 part for the inv. as 'various color'.
We you list it as part, you can select the right color like the minfig torso
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=973&idColor=0#T=C&C=0
various color: (or no color)
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?P=973c02
As MISB set you don't know what you have inside, it can be blue or light
gray. (or maybe there is a color dot on the box as we seen on other sets at that
time)
Stefaan
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2018 03:11 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 740-2 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| About two weeks ago, I did some search and found few other auctions listing or
other photos of this gray transformer with the box of 740.
Otherwise, how did this gray transformer appear?
More important, please note that the blue era ended in 1979 and the gray era
began in 1980. However, it seems to me that the blue track-related parts had
already began to be replaced by their gray ones. For example, see
[p=bb93]
and
[p=bb141c01].
Their gray ones do not appear in any set. (Of course, I will work on them
)
Knowing this fact would make my future inventory requests much smoother.
In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 740 Light Gray Electric, Train 12V Transformer for 220V (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part Blue 740 Electric, Train 12V Transformer for 220V {match ID 0 to 1}
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At the time of this request, longtime member brasletty has a new set for sale
which also shows the light gray transformer (photo attached) The part in light
gray appears in no other set at this time, but multiple photos demonstrate its
existence and there are 7 listings of light gray for sale.
I have little doubt in the accuracy of this request and it has been approved.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2018 03:11 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 740-2 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
| | Maybe 'various color' ? As we do by the minifigs.
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I'm confused by what you're asking here. Can you elucidate?
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| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2018 03:02 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 740-2 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | The seller gp73 have this item, bought in 1974 with its original packaging.
In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 740 Light Gray Electric, Train 12V Transformer for 220V (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part Blue 740 Electric, Train 12V Transformer for 220V {match ID 0 to 1}
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Right, I uploaded the light gray picture.
Maybe 'various color' ? As we do by the minifigs.
Stefaan
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2018 02:59 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 740-2 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 740 Light Gray Electric, Train 12V Transformer for 220V (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part Blue 740 Electric, Train 12V Transformer for 220V {match ID 0 to 1}
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At the time of this request, longtime member brasletty has a new set for sale
which also shows the light gray transformer (photo attached) The part in light
gray appears in no other set at this time, but multiple photos demonstrate its
existence and there are 7 listings of light gray for sale.
I have little doubt in the accuracy of this request and it has been approved.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2018 02:35 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9980-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, LordSkylark writes:
| | I am curious. Are there any advantages to the administrators to having a separate
"delete" and "add" for an inventory instead of merely a "change"?
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None that I'm aware of. It's just habit for me to submit change requests
that way.
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Apr 9, 2018 20:05 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 740-2 | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| The seller gp73 have this item, bought in 1974 with its original packaging.
In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 740 Light Gray Electric, Train 12V Transformer for 220V (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part Blue 740 Electric, Train 12V Transformer for 220V {match ID 0 to 1}
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Apr 9, 2018 20:03 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 740-2 | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 740 Light Gray Electric, Train 12V Transformer for 220V (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part Blue 740 Electric, Train 12V Transformer for 220V {match ID 0 to 1}
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Apr 9, 2018 17:20 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7945-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 60849 Yellow Minifig, Utensil Hose Nozzle Elaborate (Extra)
* Change 4 Part White {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 3 Part Red {2453 Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Undetermined Stud Type to 2453a Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Blocked Open Stud / Hollow Stud}
Comments from Submitter:
Source: MISB-based set that were never mixed with other bricks.
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In this inventory there is also 3794 in LBG color, can you also check it, you
only change white 3794
Marek
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Sorry, I forgot this one in my request. It's also non-grooved. I made an
extra request for the LBG part:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=235005
/Jan
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Apr 9, 2018 17:19 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7945-1 | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Light Bluish Gray {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
Comments from Submitter:
Forgot this one in my previous request: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1085390
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| Author: | LordSkylark | | Posted: | Apr 9, 2018 14:22 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9980-1 | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Minifig 4555pb126 Duplo Figure, Male, Blue Legs, Blue Top, Life Jacket, Red Cap, no White in Eyes pattern
* Add 1 Minifig 4555pb267 Duplo Figure, Male, Blue Legs, Blue Top, Life Jacket, Red Cap, with White in Eyes pattern
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I am curious. Are there any advantages to the administrators to having a separate
"delete" and "add" for an inventory instead of merely a "change"?
Andrew
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| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Apr 9, 2018 13:46 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 4440-1 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 3684c Light Bluish Gray Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 - Solid Studs (Alternate) (match ID 6)
* Change 1 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)} (Alternate)
* Change 1 Part Light Bluish Gray {3684 Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 - Undetermined Stud Type to 3684c Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 - Solid Studs} {match ID 6 to 0}
* Change 3 Part Dark Bluish Gray {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 1 Part White {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
Comments from Submitter:
check undetermined type: my source set was and is still build up 1 time. 3794 just change because the catalog change was made to the undetermined type a few weeks ago. The black 3794 is the -b type, DBG and white 3794 are the -a type. For the slope 3684 it's the -c type.
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Apr 9, 2018 13:31 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7945-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 60849 Yellow Minifig, Utensil Hose Nozzle Elaborate (Extra)
* Change 4 Part White {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 3 Part Red {2453 Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Undetermined Stud Type to 2453a Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Blocked Open Stud / Hollow Stud}
Comments from Submitter:
Source: MISB-based set that were never mixed with other bricks.
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In this inventory there is also 3794 in LBG color, can you also check it, you
only change white 3794
Marek
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| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Apr 9, 2018 13:27 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 10193-1 | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 2 Part 4599 Light Bluish Gray Tap 1 x 1 - Undetermined End (match ID 3)
* Change 5 Part Light Bluish Gray {3684 Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 - Undetermined Stud Type to 3684a Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 - Hollow Studs}
* Change 7 Part Reddish Brown {2453 Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Undetermined Stud Type to 2453a Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Blocked Open Stud / Hollow Stud}
* Change 2 Part Light Bluish Gray 4599b Tap 1 x 1 without Hole in End {Alternate to Regular} {match ID 3 to 0}
Comments from Submitter:
check for undetermined types, my source is MIB (bags are closed)
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