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 Author: Emilio_Magnelli View Messages Posted By Emilio_Magnelli
 Posted: Feb 21, 2024 04:30
 Subject: APO/FPO
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Emilio_Magnelli (12982)

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Hi all,

Recently I had problems with an APO/FPO adress.

Buyer pretend shipment to this address, but my Courrier doesn't ship to an
APO address.

After a few message I ask a new shipping addres, so he sent me a Japan addres,
and pretend the same shipping cost

I refuse, so he want to cancel order with refund.

I complete all, and today he sent me a neg.

Well, my I ask if there any chance to block buyer with an shipping address not
valid.

I hope to NOT offend anybody with this post.

Sincerely

em
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Feb 21, 2024 05:32
 Subject: Re: APO/FPO
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In Shipping, Emilio_Magnelli writes:
  Hi all,

Recently I had problems with an APO/FPO adress.

Buyer pretend shipment to this address, but my Courrier doesn't ship to an
APO address.

After a few message I ask a new shipping addres, so he sent me a Japan addres,
and pretend the same shipping cost

I refuse, so he want to cancel order with refund.

I complete all, and today he sent me a neg.

Well, my I ask if there any chance to block buyer with an shipping address not
valid.

I hope to NOT offend anybody with this post.

Sincerely

em

The address wasn't invalid itself. It must just be a conflict between services.
That address is for someone in the US military. From the US, they get postage
just as if they were in the US even if they are deployed overseas.
 Author: wildchicken13 View Messages Posted By wildchicken13
 Posted: Feb 21, 2024 16:18
 Subject: Re: APO/FPO
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wildchicken13 (875)

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In Shipping, axaday writes:
  The address wasn't invalid itself. It must just be a conflict between services.

It's actually a conflict between the United States and Japan.
 Author: Brickman4you View Messages Posted By Brickman4you
 Posted: Feb 21, 2024 07:17
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Brickman4you (1910)

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In Shipping, Emilio_Magnelli writes:
  Hi all,

Recently I had problems with an APO/FPO adress.

Buyer pretend shipment to this address, but my Courrier doesn't ship to an
APO address.

After a few message I ask a new shipping addres, so he sent me a Japan addres,
and pretend the same shipping cost

I refuse, so he want to cancel order with refund.

I complete all, and today he sent me a neg.

Well, my I ask if there any chance to block buyer with an shipping address not
valid.

I hope to NOT offend anybody with this post.

  Sincerely

em

APO and FPO packages must be sent via USPS (meaning only from locations within
the US States). It seems the seller was wrong in leaving you feedback because
you reside in Italy and could not use the APO / FPO address. Nicely ask him
to remove the feedback based on this information.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Feb 21, 2024 09:52
 Subject: Re: APO/FPO
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peregrinator (766)

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In Shipping, Brickman4you writes:
  APO and FPO packages must be sent via USPS (meaning only from locations within
the US States).

No, that isn't the case. APO/FPO addresses can receive international shipments,
but they *do* have go through USPS. But that is typical for international mail
- the national postal service makes delivery after the package goes through customs.
 Author: Brickman4you View Messages Posted By Brickman4you
 Posted: Feb 21, 2024 10:10
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In Shipping, peregrinator writes:
  In Shipping, Brickman4you writes:
  APO and FPO packages must be sent via USPS (meaning only from locations within
the US States).

No, that isn't the case. APO/FPO addresses can receive international shipments,
but they *do* have go through USPS. But that is typical for international mail
- the national postal service makes delivery after the package goes through customs.

USPS does not operate in Italy, does it?
 Author: qwertyboy View Messages Posted By qwertyboy
 Posted: Feb 21, 2024 11:34
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In Shipping, Brickman4you writes:
  In Shipping, peregrinator writes:
  In Shipping, Brickman4you writes:
  APO and FPO packages must be sent via USPS (meaning only from locations within
the US States).

No, that isn't the case. APO/FPO addresses can receive international shipments,
but they *do* have go through USPS. But that is typical for international mail
- the national postal service makes delivery after the package goes through customs.

USPS does not operate in Italy, does it?

It does not, but that is not the point. We have shipped to APO/FPO as well. There
is no USPS here, but when shipment reaches US, it is handed over to USPS. So
OP needed to use a shipping service that does the same.

Niek.
 Author: wildchicken13 View Messages Posted By wildchicken13
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wildchicken13 (875)

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In Shipping, Emilio_Magnelli writes:
  Hi all,

Recently I had problems with an APO/FPO adress.

Buyer pretend shipment to this address, but my Courrier doesn't ship to an
APO address.

After a few message I ask a new shipping addres, so he sent me a Japan addres,
and pretend the same shipping cost

I refuse, so he want to cancel order with refund.

I complete all, and today he sent me a neg.

Well, my I ask if there any chance to block buyer with an shipping address not
valid.

I hope to NOT offend anybody with this post.

Sincerely

em

Which courier do you use? DHL may not be able to deliver a package to an APO
address but Poste Italiane should be able to.
 Author: Brickman4you View Messages Posted By Brickman4you
 Posted: Feb 21, 2024 17:07
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In Shipping, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Shipping, Emilio_Magnelli writes:
  Hi all,

Recently I had problems with an APO/FPO adress.

Buyer pretend shipment to this address, but my Courrier doesn't ship to an
APO address.

After a few message I ask a new shipping addres, so he sent me a Japan addres,
and pretend the same shipping cost

I refuse, so he want to cancel order with refund.

I complete all, and today he sent me a neg.

Well, my I ask if there any chance to block buyer with an shipping address not
valid.

I hope to NOT offend anybody with this post.

Sincerely

em

Which courier do you use? DHL may not be able to deliver a package to an APO
address but Poste Italiane should be able to.

Good point Chicken - And I might be wrong about how the APO works, but in defense
of the original post why the negative feedback. It seems store likes to ship
DHL for its own reasons and can't complete the order. The Buyer is asking
a lot ordering from an overseas location from a Italian Seller, then not understanding
seller is not willing to ship items back to USA to then be forwarded back abroad
internationally to a APO location. I rest my case, retract the feedback.
 Author: wildchicken13 View Messages Posted By wildchicken13
 Posted: Feb 21, 2024 18:31
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In Shipping, Brickman4you writes:
  Good point Chicken - And I might be wrong about how the APO works, but in defense
of the original post why the negative feedback. It seems store likes to ship
DHL for its own reasons and can't complete the order. The Buyer is asking
a lot ordering from an overseas location from a Italian Seller, then not understanding
seller is not willing to ship items back to USA to then be forwarded back abroad
internationally to a APO location. I rest my case, retract the feedback.

I think the problem is that DHL is a private company and therefore doesn't
have access to U.S. military bases. Poste Italiane will hand the package off
to USPS for final delivery.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Feb 21, 2024 19:01
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In Shipping, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Shipping, Brickman4you writes:
  Good point Chicken - And I might be wrong about how the APO works, but in defense
of the original post why the negative feedback. It seems store likes to ship
DHL for its own reasons and can't complete the order. The Buyer is asking
a lot ordering from an overseas location from a Italian Seller, then not understanding
seller is not willing to ship items back to USA to then be forwarded back abroad
internationally to a APO location. I rest my case, retract the feedback.

I think the problem is that DHL is a private company and therefore doesn't
have access to U.S. military bases. Poste Italiane will hand the package off
to USPS for final delivery.

Uh uh, seems like a lame excuse to me, don't comprehend why DHL have difficulties...
 
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 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
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In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
  In Shipping, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Shipping, Brickman4you writes:
  Good point Chicken - And I might be wrong about how the APO works, but in defense
of the original post why the negative feedback. It seems store likes to ship
DHL for its own reasons and can't complete the order. The Buyer is asking
a lot ordering from an overseas location from a Italian Seller, then not understanding
seller is not willing to ship items back to USA to then be forwarded back abroad
internationally to a APO location. I rest my case, retract the feedback.

I think the problem is that DHL is a private company and therefore doesn't
have access to U.S. military bases. Poste Italiane will hand the package off
to USPS for final delivery.

Uh uh, seems like a lame excuse to me, don't comprehend why DHL have difficulties...

Use of deadly force includes LEGO
 


 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Shipping, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
  In Shipping, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Shipping, Brickman4you writes:
  Good point Chicken - And I might be wrong about how the APO works, but in defense
of the original post why the negative feedback. It seems store likes to ship
DHL for its own reasons and can't complete the order. The Buyer is asking
a lot ordering from an overseas location from a Italian Seller, then not understanding
seller is not willing to ship items back to USA to then be forwarded back abroad
internationally to a APO location. I rest my case, retract the feedback.

I think the problem is that DHL is a private company and therefore doesn't
have access to U.S. military bases. Poste Italiane will hand the package off
to USPS for final delivery.

Uh uh, seems like a lame excuse to me, don't comprehend why DHL have difficulties...

Use of deadly force includes LEGO

Sorry I don't believe in Guns.
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
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In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
  In Shipping, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
  In Shipping, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Shipping, Brickman4you writes:
  Good point Chicken - And I might be wrong about how the APO works, but in defense
of the original post why the negative feedback. It seems store likes to ship
DHL for its own reasons and can't complete the order. The Buyer is asking
a lot ordering from an overseas location from a Italian Seller, then not understanding
seller is not willing to ship items back to USA to then be forwarded back abroad
internationally to a APO location. I rest my case, retract the feedback.

I think the problem is that DHL is a private company and therefore doesn't
have access to U.S. military bases. Poste Italiane will hand the package off
to USPS for final delivery.

Uh uh, seems like a lame excuse to me, don't comprehend why DHL have difficulties...

Use of deadly force includes LEGO

Sorry I don't believe in Guns.

I’m sorry you have been unable to experience how fun they are under control.
My cousin and I fill up old cans with oil then we light them on fire and shoot
at them it’s a lot of fun.
 Author: qwertyboy View Messages Posted By qwertyboy
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In Shipping, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  I’m sorry you have been unable to experience how fun they are under control.
My cousin and I fill up old cans with oil then we light them on fire and shoot
at them it’s a lot of fun.

So you then shoot holes in the oil cans, oil would flow out, and then afterwards
you would clean up all the contaminated soil? Sounds like a lot of work
for a little fun.

Niek.
 Author: wildchicken13 View Messages Posted By wildchicken13
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In Shipping, qwertyboy writes:
  So you then shoot holes in the oil cans, oil would flow out, and then afterwards
you would clean up all the contaminated soil? Sounds like a lot of work
for a little fun.

Niek.

And just the other day this guy was complaining about the mess made by electric
vehicles… https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1455162
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
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In Shipping, qwertyboy writes:
  In Shipping, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  I’m sorry you have been unable to experience how fun they are under control.
My cousin and I fill up old cans with oil then we light them on fire and shoot
at them it’s a lot of fun.

So you then shoot holes in the oil cans, oil would flow out, and then afterwards
you would clean up all the contaminated soil? Sounds like a lot of work
for a little fun.

Niek.

Nana, the oil burns off, and we use a just a tiny amount, also it is fun, sometimes
you can get mini explosions too.
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In Shipping, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
  In Shipping, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
  In Shipping, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Shipping, Brickman4you writes:
  Good point Chicken - And I might be wrong about how the APO works, but in defense
of the original post why the negative feedback. It seems store likes to ship
DHL for its own reasons and can't complete the order. The Buyer is asking
a lot ordering from an overseas location from a Italian Seller, then not understanding
seller is not willing to ship items back to USA to then be forwarded back abroad
internationally to a APO location. I rest my case, retract the feedback.

I think the problem is that DHL is a private company and therefore doesn't
have access to U.S. military bases. Poste Italiane will hand the package off
to USPS for final delivery.

Uh uh, seems like a lame excuse to me, don't comprehend why DHL have difficulties...

Use of deadly force includes LEGO

Sorry I don't believe in Guns.

I’m sorry you have been unable to experience how fun they are under control.
My cousin and I fill up old cans with oil then we light them on fire and shoot
at them it’s a lot of fun.


Well all of that sounds especially lovely for the environment. 🙄
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
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In Shipping, randyf writes:
  In Shipping, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
  In Shipping, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
  In Shipping, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Shipping, Brickman4you writes:
  Good point Chicken - And I might be wrong about how the APO works, but in defense
of the original post why the negative feedback. It seems store likes to ship
DHL for its own reasons and can't complete the order. The Buyer is asking
a lot ordering from an overseas location from a Italian Seller, then not understanding
seller is not willing to ship items back to USA to then be forwarded back abroad
internationally to a APO location. I rest my case, retract the feedback.

I think the problem is that DHL is a private company and therefore doesn't
have access to U.S. military bases. Poste Italiane will hand the package off
to USPS for final delivery.

Uh uh, seems like a lame excuse to me, don't comprehend why DHL have difficulties...

Use of deadly force includes LEGO

Sorry I don't believe in Guns.

I’m sorry you have been unable to experience how fun they are under control.
My cousin and I fill up old cans with oil then we light them on fire and shoot
at them it’s a lot of fun.


Well all of that sounds especially lovely for the environment. 🙄

It will be fine, don’t freak out just because you hear the word “oil”.

What you see on the news about oil spills is not what is happening with us.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Shipping, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Shipping, Brickman4you writes:
  Good point Chicken - And I might be wrong about how the APO works, but in defense
of the original post why the negative feedback. It seems store likes to ship
DHL for its own reasons and can't complete the order. The Buyer is asking
a lot ordering from an overseas location from a Italian Seller, then not understanding
seller is not willing to ship items back to USA to then be forwarded back abroad
internationally to a APO location. I rest my case, retract the feedback.

I think the problem is that DHL is a private company and therefore doesn't
have access to U.S. military bases. Poste Italiane will hand the package off
to USPS for final delivery.

Hmmm, yes, but DHL definitely has a service where they hand off to USPS for final
delivery, at least here in the USA (DHL e-commerce). FedEx and UPS have similar
services. I'm not blaming the seller here, from what I see he did everything
correctly, it's just weird that DHL doesn't have their act together.
 Author: wildchicken13 View Messages Posted By wildchicken13
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In Shipping, peregrinator writes:
  Hmmm, yes, but DHL definitely has a service where they hand off to USPS for final
delivery, at least here in the USA (DHL e-commerce). FedEx and UPS have similar
services. I'm not blaming the seller here, from what I see he did everything
correctly, it's just weird that DHL doesn't have their act together.

The seller says they only ship with DHL Express Courier, so I'm guessing
it's door-to-door. But yes, ordinarily DHL would hand off the package to
USPS for final delivery.
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In Shipping, Emilio_Magnelli writes:
  Hi all,

Recently I had problems with an APO/FPO adress.

Buyer pretend shipment to this address, but my Courrier doesn't ship to an
APO address.

After a few message I ask a new shipping addres, so he sent me a Japan addres,
and pretend the same shipping cost

I refuse, so he want to cancel order with refund.

I complete all, and today he sent me a neg.

Well, my I ask if there any chance to block buyer with an shipping address not
valid.

I hope to NOT offend anybody with this post.

Sincerely

em

The feedback is deserved. The buyer completed their contractual obligations per
your terms, you dishonored them.

If you ship to the United States, a US buyer would have reasonable expectations
that you can ship to a US address. APO/AFO is considered domestic, even if it
is on foreign soil.

It is SHAMEFUL that you would leave a retaliatory negative feedback for the buyer,
especially a service member obligated to defend your country in the event of
a European war.

Here are some ways you could have resolved the situation:

1.) You could have explained that DHL won't let you ship to military bases
and offered to ship Poste Italiane.

2.) You could have assumed the extra cost and shipped to the Japanese address.
What would the loss have been, $10? Probably not even that, because you don't
receive your Paypal fees back on the refund.

Here are some options for the future:

1.) In your terms, add line, "We cannot ship to AFO/APO addresses."

2.) Stop shipping to the United States.