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| | | Author: | ascunn  | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2022 14:25 | | Subject: | Merge or Link 20595 and 86368 | | Viewed: | 102 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | | For: | Catalog Associate | | Status: | Completed | |
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| I've been curious about this 86368 piece, as it's listed as a minidoll
hair, although it has only been used twice, and once on a minifigure.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=86368#T=C
It appears to me it is just a new mold for the same piece, 20595, used in the
CMF banshee, Elaine Benes in Seinfeld, and others.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=20595#T=C
I just got my hands on both, and they appear to be identical. The images of
each model appear different, but I think they just are "shot" from a slightly
different angle/difference. Those differences are not present in the actual
pieces.
Is there a way to link these pieces, as is done for minifigure heads (closed,
blocked, hollow stud), or ideally could these be merged, with multiple design
IDs, similarly to how solid color and trans color pieces are merged when they
have different design IDs?
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| | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2022 15:06 | | Subject: | Re: Merge or Link 20595 and 86368 | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, ascunn writes:
[p=86368]
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I just got my hands on both, and they appear to be identical. The images of
each model appear different, but I think they just are "shot" from a slightly
different angle/difference. Those differences are not present in the actual
pieces.
Is there a way to link these pieces, as is done for minifigure heads (closed,
blocked, hollow stud), or ideally could these be merged, with multiple design
IDs, similarly to how solid color and trans color pieces are merged when they
have different design IDs?
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| | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Sep 8, 2022 06:18 | | Subject: | Re: Merge or Link 20595 and 86368 | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, ascunn writes:
Could you share comparative photos of both?
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Is there a way to link these pieces, as is done for minifigure heads (closed,
blocked, hollow stud), or ideally could these be merged, with multiple design
IDs, similarly to how solid color and trans color pieces are merged when they
have different design IDs?
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| | | | | | | Author: | ascunn | | Posted: | Sep 8, 2022 15:49 | | Subject: | Re: Merge or Link 20595 and 86368 | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| Here You go!
https://imgur.com/a/e1zyadA
I used 86386 in orange against 20595 in med-nougat.
Not only do they look identical, they both use the same alternate design ID that's
associated with 20595, which is 37998. You can see the matching number in the
photos.
I can't claim for certain that the dark brown version (found in set 75325)
is the same, but I can't really imagine it's any different.
In Catalog Requests, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, ascunn writes:
Could you share comparative photos of both?
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Is there a way to link these pieces, as is done for minifigure heads (closed,
blocked, hollow stud), or ideally could these be merged, with multiple design
IDs, similarly to how solid color and trans color pieces are merged when they
have different design IDs?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2022 05:45 | | Subject: | Re: Merge or Link 20595 and 86368 | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, ascunn writes:
| | Here You go!
https://imgur.com/a/e1zyadA
I used 86386 in orange against 20595 in med-nougat.
Not only do they look identical, they both use the same alternate design ID that's
associated with 20595, which is 37998. You can see the matching number in the
photos.
I can't claim for certain that the dark brown version (found in set 75325)
is the same, but I can't really imagine it's any different.
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Thanks for these photos, but unfortunately they are not very helpful because,
as you said, they show the mold 37998 in two different colors. So you have compared
two parts that are identical anyway. 
Now we would need to know how the new mold 86386 actually looks like, to be sure
both entries can be merged.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ascunn | | Posted: | Sep 10, 2022 16:08 | | Subject: | Re: Merge or Link 20595 and 86368 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| No, I disagree - I've shown you the same piece that is listed as two different
pieces in the bricklink catalog. The catalog says that mold 37998 does not appear
in orange, when it clearly does. At the very least, that needs to be corrected
for that piece in orange, as well as the minifigure it comes with and the set
it's associated with.
In Catalog Requests, Turez writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, ascunn writes:
| | Here You go!
https://imgur.com/a/e1zyadA
I used 86386 in orange against 20595 in med-nougat.
Not only do they look identical, they both use the same alternate design ID that's
associated with 20595, which is 37998. You can see the matching number in the
photos.
I can't claim for certain that the dark brown version (found in set 75325)
is the same, but I can't really imagine it's any different.
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Thanks for these photos, but unfortunately they are not very helpful because,
as you said, they show the mold 37998 in two different colors. So you have compared
two parts that are identical anyway.
Now we would need to know how the new mold 86386 actually looks like, to be sure
both entries can be merged.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ascunn | | Posted: | Sep 10, 2022 16:24 | | Subject: | Re: Merge or Link 20595 and 86368 | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| Just to add on: in a test of reasonableness, four of the five mini figures in
the attached image are sporting 20595 in dark brown, and one is 75325 in dark
brown. Which is it?
In Catalog Requests, ascunn writes:
| | No, I disagree - I've shown you the same piece that is listed as two different
pieces in the bricklink catalog. The catalog says that mold 37998 does not appear
in orange, when it clearly does. At the very least, that needs to be corrected
for that piece in orange, as well as the minifigure it comes with and the set
it's associated with.
In Catalog Requests, Turez writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, ascunn writes:
| | Here You go!
https://imgur.com/a/e1zyadA
I used 86386 in orange against 20595 in med-nougat.
Not only do they look identical, they both use the same alternate design ID that's
associated with 20595, which is 37998. You can see the matching number in the
photos.
I can't claim for certain that the dark brown version (found in set 75325)
is the same, but I can't really imagine it's any different.
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Thanks for these photos, but unfortunately they are not very helpful because,
as you said, they show the mold 37998 in two different colors. So you have compared
two parts that are identical anyway.
Now we would need to know how the new mold 86386 actually looks like, to be sure
both entries can be merged.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ascunn | | Posted: | Sep 10, 2022 16:33 | | Subject: | Re: Merge or Link 20595 and 86368 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| Small correction to my design numbers in my last post.
In Catalog Requests, ascunn writes:
| | Just to add on: in a test of reasonableness, four of the five mini figures in
the attached image are sporting 20595 in dark brown, and one is 86368 in dark
brown. Which is it?
In Catalog Requests, ascunn writes:
| | No, I disagree - I've shown you the same piece that is listed as two different
pieces in the bricklink catalog. The catalog says that mold 37998 does not appear
in orange, when it clearly does. At the very least, that needs to be corrected
for that piece in orange, as well as the minifigure it comes with and the set
it's associated with.
In Catalog Requests, Turez writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, ascunn writes:
| | Here You go!
https://imgur.com/a/e1zyadA
I used 86386 in orange against 20595 in med-nougat.
Not only do they look identical, they both use the same alternate design ID that's
associated with 20595, which is 37998. You can see the matching number in the
photos.
I can't claim for certain that the dark brown version (found in set 75325)
is the same, but I can't really imagine it's any different.
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Thanks for these photos, but unfortunately they are not very helpful because,
as you said, they show the mold 37998 in two different colors. So you have compared
two parts that are identical anyway.
Now we would need to know how the new mold 86386 actually looks like, to be sure
both entries can be merged.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Dec 17, 2022 06:35 | | Subject: | Re: Merge or Link 20595 and 86368 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, ascunn writes:
| | Just to add on: in a test of reasonableness, four of the five mini figures in
the attached image are sporting 20595 in dark brown, and one is 75325 in dark
brown. Which is it?
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The second one.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Sep 11, 2022 07:05 | | Subject: | Re: Merge or Link 20595 and 86368 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, ascunn writes:
| | No, I disagree - I've shown you the same piece that is listed as two different
pieces in the bricklink catalog. The catalog says that mold 37998 does not appear
in orange, when it clearly does. At the very least, that needs to be corrected
for that piece in orange, as well as the minifigure it comes with and the set
it's associated with.
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Already did that shortly after your forum message - check the inventories again.
And don't worry,
[p=86368]
will most likely be merged into
but we would first like to see a proper comparison (if possible by someone who
has both variants in hand), just to be on the safe side.
| | In Catalog Requests, Turez writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, ascunn writes:
| | Here You go!
https://imgur.com/a/e1zyadA
I used 86386 in orange against 20595 in med-nougat.
Not only do they look identical, they both use the same alternate design ID that's
associated with 20595, which is 37998. You can see the matching number in the
photos.
I can't claim for certain that the dark brown version (found in set 75325)
is the same, but I can't really imagine it's any different.
|
Thanks for these photos, but unfortunately they are not very helpful because,
as you said, they show the mold 37998 in two different colors. So you have compared
two parts that are identical anyway.
Now we would need to know how the new mold 86386 actually looks like, to be sure
both entries can be merged.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ascunn | | Posted: | Sep 11, 2022 23:33 | | Subject: | Re: Merge or Link 20595 and 86368 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| Thank you! I did see that and I thought it was a great solution for a question
that isn't TOTALLY answered yet. Now, even with the question still pending,
people have an easy link to the other possible catalog entry. Thank you!
In Catalog Requests, Turez writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, ascunn writes:
| | No, I disagree - I've shown you the same piece that is listed as two different
pieces in the bricklink catalog. The catalog says that mold 37998 does not appear
in orange, when it clearly does. At the very least, that needs to be corrected
for that piece in orange, as well as the minifigure it comes with and the set
it's associated with.
|
Already did that shortly after your forum message - check the inventories again.
And don't worry,
[p=86368]
will most likely be merged into
but we would first like to see a proper comparison (if possible by someone who
has both variants in hand), just to be on the safe side.
| | In Catalog Requests, Turez writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, ascunn writes:
| | Here You go!
https://imgur.com/a/e1zyadA
I used 86386 in orange against 20595 in med-nougat.
Not only do they look identical, they both use the same alternate design ID that's
associated with 20595, which is 37998. You can see the matching number in the
photos.
I can't claim for certain that the dark brown version (found in set 75325)
is the same, but I can't really imagine it's any different.
|
Thanks for these photos, but unfortunately they are not very helpful because,
as you said, they show the mold 37998 in two different colors. So you have compared
two parts that are identical anyway.
Now we would need to know how the new mold 86386 actually looks like, to be sure
both entries can be merged.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Dec 17, 2022 06:34 | | Subject: | Re: Merge or Link 20595 and 86368 | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, ascunn writes:
but I can't really imagine it's any different.
Seeing is believing.
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| | | | | Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | Sep 10, 2022 17:00 | | Subject: | Re: Merge or Link 20595 and 86368 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, ascunn writes:
| | I've been curious about this 86368 piece, as it's listed as a minidoll
hair, although it has only been used twice, and once on a minifigure.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=86368#T=C
It appears to me it is just a new mold for the same piece, 20595, used in the
CMF banshee, Elaine Benes in Seinfeld, and others.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=20595#T=C
I just got my hands on both, and they appear to be identical. The images of
each model appear different, but I think they just are "shot" from a slightly
different angle/difference. Those differences are not present in the actual
pieces.
Is there a way to link these pieces, as is done for minifigure heads (closed,
blocked, hollow stud), or ideally could these be merged, with multiple design
IDs, similarly to how solid color and trans color pieces are merged when they
have different design IDs?
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Here’s another thing for reference:
20595:
Dark Brown: 6136738
Transparent Black: 6121802
White: 6138211
37998:
Dark Brown: 6238774
Medium Nougat: 6353754
White: 6238775
Yellowish Green: 6279214
86368:
Dark Brown: 6404471
Medium Nougat: 6404476
Orange: 6408137
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| | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Dec 17, 2022 10:48 | | Subject: | Re: Merge or Link 20595 and 86368 | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, ascunn writes:
| | I've been curious about this 86368 piece, as it's listed as a minidoll
hair, although it has only been used twice, and once on a minifigure.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=86368#T=C
It appears to me it is just a new mold for the same piece, 20595, used in the
CMF banshee, Elaine Benes in Seinfeld, and others.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=20595#T=C
I just got my hands on both, and they appear to be identical. The images of
each model appear different, but I think they just are "shot" from a slightly
different angle/difference. Those differences are not present in the actual
pieces.
Is there a way to link these pieces, as is done for minifigure heads (closed,
blocked, hollow stud), or ideally could these be merged, with multiple design
IDs, similarly to how solid color and trans color pieces are merged when they
have different design IDs?
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These two parts have been officially merged.
Cheers,
Randy
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