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| | | Author: | Singidunum  | | Posted: | Sep 19, 2021 21:09 | | Subject: | Newer contributions approved before older | | Viewed: | 106 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Around 20 days ago I submitted 5 new items, 5 new images and 1 catalog change
request. They are still pending.
On the other hand, one new item and one image I submitted 8 days ago were quickly
approved. The same thing happend with several catalog change requests I submitted
few days ago, they were also quickly approved.
Since all these contributions are related to old items from the 80s, I was under
the impression that such contributions will be checked and approved chronologically
(i.e. oldest date of submission will be approved first). Has the process changed?
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| | | | | | | Author: | Singidunum | | Posted: | Sep 19, 2021 21:30 | | Subject: | Re: Newer contributions approved before older | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Thanks for your reply. I know the requests involving older items, in case of
too many requests, usually take a back seat.
What puzzles me is that those older requests seem to become "stuck" or (at
least temporarily) forgotten when the situation goes back to normal. Since my
newer contributions were quickly approved, it looks like the administrators were
not backed up with requests during those days. In spite of that, nobody looked
at those older requests.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 20, 2021 00:33 | | Subject: | Re: Newer contributions approved before older | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Singidunum writes:
| | Thanks for your reply. I know the requests involving older items, in case of
too many requests, usually take a back seat.
What puzzles me is that those older requests seem to become "stuck" or (at
least temporarily) forgotten when the situation goes back to normal. Since my
newer contributions were quickly approved, it looks like the administrators were
not backed up with requests during those days. In spite of that, nobody looked
at those older requests.
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They have been looked at and they have not been forgotten. They are items that
require a bit more communication and research, so they take a back seat. Gear
items from the 80s are not top priority.
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| | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Sep 20, 2021 00:39 | | Subject: | Re: Newer contributions approved before older | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Singidunum writes:
| | Around 20 days ago I submitted 5 new items, 5 new images and 1 catalog change
request. They are still pending.
On the other hand, one new item and one image I submitted 8 days ago were quickly
approved. The same thing happend with several catalog change requests I submitted
few days ago, they were also quickly approved.
Since all these contributions are related to old items from the 80s, I was under
the impression that such contributions will be checked and approved chronologically
(i.e. oldest date of submission will be approved first). Has the process changed?
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As of today, I have 25 requests of new items and 155 inventory change requests,
all in pending status. Almost all of these requests are for sets from 80s and
70s. My oldest inventory change requests was submitted 14 months ago.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Singidunum | | Posted: | Sep 21, 2021 11:18 | | Subject: | Re: Newer contributions approved before older | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SezaR writes:
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As of today, I have 25 requests of new items and 155 inventory change requests,
all in pending status. Almost all of these requests are for sets from 80s and
70s. My oldest inventory change requests was submitted 14 months ago.
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Request was submitted 14 months ago and it is still pending??! Wow... that's
crazy.
One can easily lose the will to submit anything to the catalog with such ultra-slow
approval times.
Obviously Lego Group needs to hire some additional administrators. The workload
(number of requests submitted each week) seems to be to big for current ones.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Sep 21, 2021 11:38 | | Subject: | Re: Newer contributions approved before older | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Singidunum writes:
| | In Catalog, SezaR writes:
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As of today, I have 25 requests of new items and 155 inventory change requests,
all in pending status. Almost all of these requests are for sets from 80s and
70s. My oldest inventory change requests was submitted 14 months ago.
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Request was submitted 14 months ago and it is still pending??! Wow... that's
crazy.
One can easily lose the will to submit anything to the catalog with such ultra-slow
approval times.
Obviously Lego Group needs to hire some additional administrators. The workload
(number of requests submitted each week) seems to be to big for current ones.
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14 months is crazy long. But there has been some turnover in the past year if
you haven't noticed. Oh, and the admins are just volunteers. Really dedicated
volunteers.
Yes, yes there are so many BrickLink LEGO experts just lazing around here waiting
to be hired. Sigh...
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Singidunum | | Posted: | Sep 21, 2021 11:52 | | Subject: | Re: Newer contributions approved before older | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
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14 months is crazy long. But there has been some turnover in the past year if
you haven't noticed. Oh, and the admins are just volunteers. Really dedicated
volunteers.
Yes, yes there are so many BrickLink LEGO experts just lazing around here waiting
to be hired. Sigh...
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It's really sad if Lego Group does not want to give a salary to an administrator.
I'm sure they would easily find as much new administrators as they want,
if they decide to offer competitive salaries for such positions. There are many
AFOLs with extensive knowledge of current and past Lego sets, who would be happy
to work for Lego and Bricklink. And for such huge company as Lego Group, salaries
for such positions would be "pocket change".
In the meantime, we have understaffed administration here on Bricklink, and 14-months
long pending times...
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 21, 2021 12:50 | | Subject: | Re: Newer contributions approved before older | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Singidunum writes:
| | In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
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14 months is crazy long. But there has been some turnover in the past year if
you haven't noticed. Oh, and the admins are just volunteers. Really dedicated
volunteers.
Yes, yes there are so many BrickLink LEGO experts just lazing around here waiting
to be hired. Sigh...
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It's really sad if Lego Group does not want to give a salary to an administrator.
I'm sure they would easily find as much new administrators as they want,
if they decide to offer competitive salaries for such positions. There are many
AFOLs with extensive knowledge of current and past Lego sets, who would be happy
to work for Lego and Bricklink. And for such huge company as Lego Group, salaries
for such positions would be "pocket change".
In the meantime, we have understaffed administration here on Bricklink, and 14-months
long pending times...
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There is a reason for the long pending times on Reza's requests. The admins
here do not have extensive knowledge in the area they do, and it takes a lot
of time for us to learn about their requests, research their requests, and try
to get a handle on things. The requests they deal with are with items that are
decades old, and there is not a lot to go on. All of this leads to the items
being low priority.
Most of our time *has* to be dedicated to the constant stream of *new* items
and *new* inventories, because that is what people want the most and those are
the things that bring in the most revenue for the site. We are also dealing with
an enormous influx of packing dimensions since that feature went live a few months
ago.
If you want to see how much we do, just look here:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogLogs.asp?utm_content=subnav
We have completed 25,420 change requests this year, far beating the previous
yearly record of 18,103 set just last year, and we are only in September!
And here:
https://www.bricklink.com/calendar.asp?v=C
We approved over 10,000 new items to the catalog last year, which was a record,
and we are on pace to beat that again this year.
If you combine all of that with the changeover in positions that we had to deal
with in the last year due to losing two extraordinary admins, I think we are
doing amazing. But it is easy to be an armchair admin when you don't know
the details.
In conclusion, us admins only have so much time because we are volunteers that
all have many other responsibilities in our lives outside of BrickLink, like
jobs, families, home projects, etc., let alone some downtime! I would love to
be a salaried employee of BrickLink and dedicate a lot more time here. But I'm
not, so my dedication and time commitment only go so far. I am sure it is the
same with the other admins. And even with all of that, we are setting catalog
records for the amount of work we are actually handling.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Singidunum | | Posted: | Sep 21, 2021 14:00 | | Subject: | Re: Newer contributions approved before older | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
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In conclusion, us admins only have so much time because we are volunteers that
all have many other responsibilities in our lives outside of BrickLink, like
jobs, families, home projects, etc., let alone some downtime! I would love to
be a salaried employee of BrickLink and dedicate a lot more time here. But I'm
not, so my dedication and time commitment only go so far.
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Your post is one more reason to wonder why Lego Group still does not want to
start giving salaries to administrators and why they don't hire additional
ones. I think the understaffing is very clearly present (for example, the Lego
catalog from 1989 and the image of it's cover I submitted are still not added
to the catalog after almost a month. It's a very simple task, because the
same catalog (but in another languge) is already present in the catalog, but
my request is stil pending).
Since Lego Group is first and foremost profit-driven company, I think as long
as there are people who are prepared to work so hard as volunteers, Lego Group
will not give even one dollar for their time and work. And as long as the community
here does not raise their voices about understaffing problem, no additional administrators
will be hired. Profit-driven companies unfortunately work that way...
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Sep 21, 2021 15:16 | | Subject: | Re: Newer contributions approved before older | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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Location:  USA, California |
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| In Catalog, Singidunum writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
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In conclusion, us admins only have so much time because we are volunteers that
all have many other responsibilities in our lives outside of BrickLink, like
jobs, families, home projects, etc., let alone some downtime! I would love to
be a salaried employee of BrickLink and dedicate a lot more time here. But I'm
not, so my dedication and time commitment only go so far.
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Your post is one more reason to wonder why Lego Group still does not want to
start giving salaries to administrators and why they don't hire additional
ones. I think the understaffing is very clearly present (for example, the Lego
catalog from 1989 and the image of it's cover I submitted are still not added
to the catalog after almost a month. It's a very simple task, because the
same catalog (but in another languge) is already present in the catalog, but
my request is stil pending).
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I just approved this catalog.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Sep 21, 2021 15:34 | | Subject: | Re: Newer contributions approved before older | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, Singidunum writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
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In conclusion, us admins only have so much time because we are volunteers that
all have many other responsibilities in our lives outside of BrickLink, like
jobs, families, home projects, etc., let alone some downtime! I would love to
be a salaried employee of BrickLink and dedicate a lot more time here. But I'm
not, so my dedication and time commitment only go so far.
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Your post is one more reason to wonder why Lego Group still does not want to
start giving salaries to administrators and why they don't hire additional
ones. I think the understaffing is very clearly present (for example, the Lego
catalog from 1989 and the image of it's cover I submitted are still not added
to the catalog after almost a month. It's a very simple task, because the
same catalog (but in another languge) is already present in the catalog, but
my request is stil pending).
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I just approved this catalog.
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See? Pay Russell a salary and he gets things done.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 21, 2021 15:45 | | Subject: | Re: Newer contributions approved before older | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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Your post is one more reason to wonder why Lego Group still does not want to
start giving salaries to administrators and why they don't hire additional
ones. I think the understaffing is very clearly present (for example, the Lego
catalog from 1989 and the image of it's cover I submitted are still not added
to the catalog after almost a month. It's a very simple task, because the
same catalog (but in another languge) is already present in the catalog, but
my request is stil pending).
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It's most likely down to money. If the salary of the person doing the work
is more than the extra money made from doing the work, is it worth doing? Financially,
it isn't. If they went to salaried staff only, it wouldn't surprise me
if current items not only get priority but additions of older items disappear,
especially ones that are not likely to be cost efficient. The volunteers clearly
do it for love not money. If it becomes money not love then things may be done
differently.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Sep 21, 2021 16:10 | | Subject: | Re: Newer contributions approved before older | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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BrickLink
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| Location: USA, California |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
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Your post is one more reason to wonder why Lego Group still does not want to
start giving salaries to administrators and why they don't hire additional
ones. I think the understaffing is very clearly present (for example, the Lego
catalog from 1989 and the image of it's cover I submitted are still not added
to the catalog after almost a month. It's a very simple task, because the
same catalog (but in another languge) is already present in the catalog, but
my request is stil pending).
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It's most likely down to money. If the salary of the person doing the work
is more than the extra money made from doing the work, is it worth doing? Financially,
it isn't. If they went to salaried staff only, it wouldn't surprise me
if current items not only get priority but additions of older items disappear,
especially ones that are not likely to be cost efficient. The volunteers clearly
do it for love not money. If it becomes money not love then things may be done
differently.
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You are exactly right. We do actually pay our catalog admins a few hours per
week, but if we required that all catalog work was done in house, the company
would not pay for most of the fussy detailed work that our community admins do.
We would start importing data and would not check every submission. Standards
would plummet.
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