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| Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
I could not find any mention of drop-shipping for buyers in either the Help files
or the Terms of Service. In the event that buyers are [no longer] allowed to
use drop-shipping, perhaps the Terms of Service should be written to expressly
prohibit this.
Reference: https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=bricks4life
This particular buyer account has recently had their buying privileges revoked
and I am unsure why.
This particular buyer account has purchased from me multiple times and always
with a different name and address to send the order. The user of the account
has communicated with me directly (and was very nice). In the case of this user,
each address was a valid Paypal address, so I had no issues nor did I give up
my Paypal seller protection.
I have no problem with (overseas) buyers using drop-shipping or various addresses,
especially when the address is a valid Paypal address. When I prepare outgoing
orders, I only pay attention to the Paypal address -- the BL address is irrelevant
to me.
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| | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 03:55 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 91 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
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BL doesn't forbid it, so it is OK as long as the addresses are correct and
the buyer is not selling via drop shipping on BL. It may be an issue on the site
where the drop shipper is selling but that is an issue for them and not BL.
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| | | | | | | Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 04:43 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, yorbrick writes:
| | In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
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BL doesn't forbid it, so it is OK as long as the addresses are correct and
the buyer is not selling via drop shipping on BL. It may be an issue on the site
where the drop shipper is selling but that is an issue for them and not BL.
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Last time I checked, you need to have the items that are for sale 'in hand'.
Meaning, you have to have the actual items.
Drop-shipping is buying the items from another seller, and having it shipped
to your buyer. That doesn't comply with the 'in hand'-rule.
But when Lego bought BL, this rule might have gone down the .....
So I reckon, it is NOT ALLOWED. Any second thoughts are welcome.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 04:44 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| 8. Exact quantity: The quantity of the item that you are listing for sale must
not be greater than the quantity you have on hand. The only exception to this
is a custom LEGO magazine that has to be pre-ordered and the buyer is made aware
of this in the item description.
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=103&q=in+hand
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 06:26 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, StarBrick writes:
| | 8. Exact quantity: The quantity of the item that you are listing for sale must
not be greater than the quantity you have on hand. The only exception to this
is a custom LEGO magazine that has to be pre-ordered and the buyer is made aware
of this in the item description.
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=103&q=in+hand
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That only applies to bricklink sellers. BL terms do not apply to other sites.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 07:19 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, yorbrick writes:
| | In Buying, StarBrick writes:
| | 8. Exact quantity: The quantity of the item that you are listing for sale must
not be greater than the quantity you have on hand. The only exception to this
is a custom LEGO magazine that has to be pre-ordered and the buyer is made aware
of this in the item description.
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=103&q=in+hand
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That only applies to bricklink sellers. BL terms do not apply to other sites.
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Even so, BrickLink will never be able to check and verify if that rule is met.
So effectively it's a void rule.
It forces sellers to invest in lego items that might never be sold and on the
long run must be written off. It's not JIT and not LEAN.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 09:47 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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Even so, BrickLink will never be able to check and verify if that rule is met.
So effectively it's a void rule.
It forces sellers to invest in lego items that might never be sold and on the
long run must be written off. It's not JIT and not LEAN.
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They can check if there is a suspicon of something not right. If a seller is
getting NSS and complaints of slow delivery they can check what is going on.
It was not that long ago a seller with apparently very large inventories at very
high prices was banned for doing this.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1250140
If a seller makes a one off inventory error and sells something they don't
have, and buys it from another seller to fulfill the order, it is technically
drop shipping. But a one error is likely to go both unnoticed and unpunished,
which I am sure most people would agree with. Whereas when it happens frequently,
the story changes.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 09:49 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| I just realised that was your thread. Very bad behaviour does eventually get
punished!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 10:34 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, yorbrick writes:
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Even so, BrickLink will never be able to check and verify if that rule is met.
So effectively it's a void rule.
It forces sellers to invest in lego items that might never be sold and on the
long run must be written off. It's not JIT and not LEAN.
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They can check if there is a suspicon of something not right. If a seller is
getting NSS and complaints of slow delivery they can check what is going on.
It was not that long ago a seller with apparently very large inventories at very
high prices was banned for doing this.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1250140
If a seller makes a one off inventory error and sells something they don't
have, and buys it from another seller to fulfill the order, it is technically
drop shipping. But a one error is likely to go both unnoticed and unpunished,
which I am sure most people would agree with. Whereas when it happens frequently,
the story changes.
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They can't check. BrickLink personnal can't go to your place and physically
determine if you have the items at hand. They are not the police or law.
So, by definition they can't prove without a doubt. So, any measure they
take is by definition on suspition only. Not proof.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 10:39 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, patpendlego writes:
| | In Buying, yorbrick writes:
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Even so, BrickLink will never be able to check and verify if that rule is met.
So effectively it's a void rule.
It forces sellers to invest in lego items that might never be sold and on the
long run must be written off. It's not JIT and not LEAN.
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They can check if there is a suspicon of something not right. If a seller is
getting NSS and complaints of slow delivery they can check what is going on.
It was not that long ago a seller with apparently very large inventories at very
high prices was banned for doing this.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1250140
If a seller makes a one off inventory error and sells something they don't
have, and buys it from another seller to fulfill the order, it is technically
drop shipping. But a one error is likely to go both unnoticed and unpunished,
which I am sure most people would agree with. Whereas when it happens frequently,
the story changes.
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They can't check. BrickLink personnal can't go to your place and physically
determine if you have the items at hand. They are not the police or law.
So, by definition they can't prove without a doubt. So, any measure they
take is by definition on suspition only. Not proof.
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They can ask for photos of stock, for example. I believe some people are asked
to provide such information. Beyond doubt? No, but a pretty good indication.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 13:15 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, yorbrick writes:
| | In Buying, patpendlego writes:
| | In Buying, yorbrick writes:
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Even so, BrickLink will never be able to check and verify if that rule is met.
So effectively it's a void rule.
It forces sellers to invest in lego items that might never be sold and on the
long run must be written off. It's not JIT and not LEAN.
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They can check if there is a suspicon of something not right. If a seller is
getting NSS and complaints of slow delivery they can check what is going on.
It was not that long ago a seller with apparently very large inventories at very
high prices was banned for doing this.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1250140
If a seller makes a one off inventory error and sells something they don't
have, and buys it from another seller to fulfill the order, it is technically
drop shipping. But a one error is likely to go both unnoticed and unpunished,
which I am sure most people would agree with. Whereas when it happens frequently,
the story changes.
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They can't check. BrickLink personnal can't go to your place and physically
determine if you have the items at hand. They are not the police or law.
So, by definition they can't prove without a doubt. So, any measure they
take is by definition on suspition only. Not proof.
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They can ask for photos of stock, for example. I believe some people are asked
to provide such information. Beyond doubt? No, but a pretty good indication.
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BrickLink is not the seller, it is not their inventory. They have no business
peeking and poking into my stock. I will never provide them access nor photos,
it's ridiculus.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 13:46 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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BrickLink is not the seller, it is not their inventory. They have no business
peeking and poking into my stock. I will never provide them access nor photos,
it's ridiculus.
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And I would hope that as long as you or I or anyone else doesn't continually
let customers down by not being able to supply the items that the customer ordered,
BL won't ask for any such proof. They should trust established sellers by
default. Whereas if a seller is continually listing items they do not have such
that they can supply any item (albeit at an extortionate price) so that they
top carts created via wants lists, then drop shipping the parts, they intervene
either by asking for proof of items and/or banning.
Anyhow, there is no proof of the buyer drop shipping through bricklink in this
case. If they sell via drop shipping elsewhere it is not against BL rules, although
may be against the other site's rules.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Shiny_Stuff | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 04:55 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, StarBrick writes:
| | In Buying, yorbrick writes:
| | In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
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BL doesn't forbid it, so it is OK as long as the addresses are correct and
the buyer is not selling via drop shipping on BL. It may be an issue on the site
where the drop shipper is selling but that is an issue for them and not BL.
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Last time I checked, you need to have the items that are for sale 'in hand'.
Meaning, you have to have the actual items.
Drop-shipping is buying the items from another seller, and having it shipped
to your buyer. That doesn't comply with the 'in hand'-rule.
But when Lego bought BL, this rule might have gone down the .....
So I reckon, it is NOT ALLOWED. Any second thoughts are welcome.
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What you mention deals with SELLING on BrickLink. The case I mention is about
a BUYER. Once an order is paid, a buyer can do whatever they want with their
purchase.
I have no idea WHY the buyer I mentioned had their buying privileges revoked.
I only suspect it was because they were directing their purchases to various
drop addresses and presumably having those drop recipients repack and reship
the Lego to the final destination. There may be some other completely different
circumstances that lead to buying privileges being revoked -- I have no way
of knowing.
Still, I would like to know the answer to my original question -- can BUYERS
use Drop-Shipping for BL purchases?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 05:01 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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What you mention deals with SELLING on BrickLink. The case I mention is about
a BUYER. Once an order is paid, a buyer can do whatever they want with their
purchase.
I have no idea WHY the buyer I mentioned had their buying privileges revoked.
I only suspect it was because they were directing their purchases to various
drop addresses and presumably having those drop recipients repack and reship
the Lego to the final destination. There may be some other completely different
circumstances that lead to buying privileges being revoked -- I have no way
of knowing.
Still, I would like to know the answer to my original question -- can BUYERS
use Drop-Shipping for BL purchases?
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Still, if that buyer
- sold items through BL to another buyer
- bought that items from your store
- have these items shipped to his buyer (by you of by himself)
it is against that specific rule. He sells items he doesn't have in hand
on the BL system. That's not permitted as stated in item 8.
If your buyer sold your items to another buyer through another marketplace, BL
has no say about that way doing 'business'; I would think.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 05:03 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | In Buying, StarBrick writes:
| | In Buying, yorbrick writes:
| | In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
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BL doesn't forbid it, so it is OK as long as the addresses are correct and
the buyer is not selling via drop shipping on BL. It may be an issue on the site
where the drop shipper is selling but that is an issue for them and not BL.
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Last time I checked, you need to have the items that are for sale 'in hand'.
Meaning, you have to have the actual items.
Drop-shipping is buying the items from another seller, and having it shipped
to your buyer. That doesn't comply with the 'in hand'-rule.
But when Lego bought BL, this rule might have gone down the .....
So I reckon, it is NOT ALLOWED. Any second thoughts are welcome.
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What you mention deals with SELLING on BrickLink. The case I mention is about
a BUYER. Once an order is paid, a buyer can do whatever they want with their
purchase.
I have no idea WHY the buyer I mentioned had their buying privileges revoked.
I only suspect it was because they were directing their purchases to various
drop addresses and presumably having those drop recipients repack and reship
the Lego to the final destination. There may be some other completely different
circumstances that lead to buying privileges being revoked -- I have no way
of knowing.
Still, I would like to know the answer to my original question -- can BUYERS
use Drop-Shipping for BL purchases?
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Yes,
I used it several times. What is wrong with that?
BL even allows buyer to change address at check out.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Brick_Qc | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 05:50 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | In Buying, StarBrick writes:
| | In Buying, yorbrick writes:
| | In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
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BL doesn't forbid it, so it is OK as long as the addresses are correct and
the buyer is not selling via drop shipping on BL. It may be an issue on the site
where the drop shipper is selling but that is an issue for them and not BL.
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Last time I checked, you need to have the items that are for sale 'in hand'.
Meaning, you have to have the actual items.
Drop-shipping is buying the items from another seller, and having it shipped
to your buyer. That doesn't comply with the 'in hand'-rule.
But when Lego bought BL, this rule might have gone down the .....
So I reckon, it is NOT ALLOWED. Any second thoughts are welcome.
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What you mention deals with SELLING on BrickLink. The case I mention is about
a BUYER. Once an order is paid, a buyer can do whatever they want with their
purchase.
I have no idea WHY the buyer I mentioned had their buying privileges revoked.
I only suspect it was because they were directing their purchases to various
drop addresses and presumably having those drop recipients repack and reship
the Lego to the final destination. There may be some other completely different
circumstances that lead to buying privileges being revoked -- I have no way
of knowing.
Still, I would like to know the answer to my original question -- can BUYERS
use Drop-Shipping for BL purchases?
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BL doesn't forbid it. As long as the order is paid and you have your seller's
protection with PP, why not ?
Contrary, I had a case were a BL seller tryed it with me (an expensive set),
ask to ship to a PO Box that wasn't the PP address, that didn't fly.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 06:20 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, StarBrick writes:
| | In Buying, yorbrick writes:
| | In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
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BL doesn't forbid it, so it is OK as long as the addresses are correct and
the buyer is not selling via drop shipping on BL. It may be an issue on the site
where the drop shipper is selling but that is an issue for them and not BL.
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Last time I checked, you need to have the items that are for sale 'in hand'.
Meaning, you have to have the actual items.
Drop-shipping is buying the items from another seller, and having it shipped
to your buyer. That doesn't comply with the 'in hand'-rule.
But when Lego bought BL, this rule might have gone down the .....
So I reckon, it is NOT ALLOWED. Any second thoughts are welcome.
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How do you know which site the drop seller is selling on?
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| | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 06:44 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 81 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
I could not find any mention of drop-shipping for buyers in either the Help files
or the Terms of Service. In the event that buyers are [no longer] allowed to
use drop-shipping, perhaps the Terms of Service should be written to expressly
prohibit this.
Reference: https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=bricks4life
This particular buyer account has recently had their buying privileges revoked
and I am unsure why.
This particular buyer account has purchased from me multiple times and always
with a different name and address to send the order. The user of the account
has communicated with me directly (and was very nice). In the case of this user,
each address was a valid Paypal address, so I had no issues nor did I give up
my Paypal seller protection.
I have no problem with (overseas) buyers using drop-shipping or various addresses,
especially when the address is a valid Paypal address. When I prepare outgoing
orders, I only pay attention to the Paypal address -- the BL address is irrelevant
to me.
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Drop Shipping is more of a decision on the part of the individual seller, than
a site wide prohibition. Some sellers are OK with it, some are not. I do not
wish to (knowingly) be involved in any drop shipped order, as the middle-man
is running a virtual store with no actual inventory. Representing that they have
inventory is inflating the apparent inventory available on the net, and distorting
pricing (usually in an upward direction).
Nita Rae
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| | | | | | | Author: | Shiny_Stuff | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 10:10 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, cosmicray writes:
| | In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
I could not find any mention of drop-shipping for buyers in either the Help files
or the Terms of Service. In the event that buyers are [no longer] allowed to
use drop-shipping, perhaps the Terms of Service should be written to expressly
prohibit this.
Reference: https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=bricks4life
This particular buyer account has recently had their buying privileges revoked
and I am unsure why.
This particular buyer account has purchased from me multiple times and always
with a different name and address to send the order. The user of the account
has communicated with me directly (and was very nice). In the case of this user,
each address was a valid Paypal address, so I had no issues nor did I give up
my Paypal seller protection.
I have no problem with (overseas) buyers using drop-shipping or various addresses,
especially when the address is a valid Paypal address. When I prepare outgoing
orders, I only pay attention to the Paypal address -- the BL address is irrelevant
to me.
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Drop Shipping is more of a decision on the part of the individual seller, than
a site wide prohibition. Some sellers are OK with it, some are not. I do not
wish to (knowingly) be involved in any drop shipped order, as the middle-man
is running a virtual store with no actual inventory. Representing that they have
inventory is inflating the apparent inventory available on the net, and distorting
pricing (usually in an upward direction).
Nita Rae
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You are assuming there is re-selling going on. That could be -- I have no
way to know. This buyer has only purchased PARTS from me, so I assume the parts
are intended to be used to build and play with -- but again, I have no way
to know this for sure.
A buyers Feedback Rating of 9500 may tend to indicate reselling, but I highly
doubt that it could be done with virtual inventory without introducing a host
of potential problems and time delays caused by the third-party shipping.
To me, the use of multiple addresses could indicate the use of multiple re-shippers
to attempt to avoid massive import duties and taxes for the end user.
Whatever the case may be, this user appears to have completed more than 9500
Successful Bricklink purchases from very happy sellers. So, I still question
why their account was disabled because it seems Unwarranted. I suppose we may
never know the answer to that.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 10:34 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | In Buying, cosmicray writes:
| | In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
I could not find any mention of drop-shipping for buyers in either the Help files
or the Terms of Service. In the event that buyers are [no longer] allowed to
use drop-shipping, perhaps the Terms of Service should be written to expressly
prohibit this.
Reference: https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=bricks4life
This particular buyer account has recently had their buying privileges revoked
and I am unsure why.
This particular buyer account has purchased from me multiple times and always
with a different name and address to send the order. The user of the account
has communicated with me directly (and was very nice). In the case of this user,
each address was a valid Paypal address, so I had no issues nor did I give up
my Paypal seller protection.
I have no problem with (overseas) buyers using drop-shipping or various addresses,
especially when the address is a valid Paypal address. When I prepare outgoing
orders, I only pay attention to the Paypal address -- the BL address is irrelevant
to me.
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Drop Shipping is more of a decision on the part of the individual seller, than
a site wide prohibition. Some sellers are OK with it, some are not. I do not
wish to (knowingly) be involved in any drop shipped order, as the middle-man
is running a virtual store with no actual inventory. Representing that they have
inventory is inflating the apparent inventory available on the net, and distorting
pricing (usually in an upward direction).
Nita Rae
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You are assuming there is re-selling going on. That could be -- I have no
way to know. This buyer has only purchased PARTS from me, so I assume the parts
are intended to be used to build and play with -- but again, I have no way
to know this for sure.
A buyers Feedback Rating of 9500 may tend to indicate reselling, but I highly
doubt that it could be done with virtual inventory without introducing a host
of potential problems and time delays caused by the third-party shipping.
To me, the use of multiple addresses could indicate the use of multiple re-shippers
to attempt to avoid massive import duties and taxes for the end user.
Whatever the case may be, this user appears to have completed more than 9500
Successful Bricklink purchases from very happy sellers. So, I still question
why their account was disabled because it seems Unwarranted. I suppose we may
never know the answer to that.
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Here are the reasons for removing buyer privileges...
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2460
3x Completed or 3x current NPB.
If there was some sort of selling scam going on, I'd imagine BL would remove
selling privileges too.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 10:40 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, yorbrick writes:
| | In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | In Buying, cosmicray writes:
| | In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
I could not find any mention of drop-shipping for buyers in either the Help files
or the Terms of Service. In the event that buyers are [no longer] allowed to
use drop-shipping, perhaps the Terms of Service should be written to expressly
prohibit this.
Reference: https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=bricks4life
This particular buyer account has recently had their buying privileges revoked
and I am unsure why.
This particular buyer account has purchased from me multiple times and always
with a different name and address to send the order. The user of the account
has communicated with me directly (and was very nice). In the case of this user,
each address was a valid Paypal address, so I had no issues nor did I give up
my Paypal seller protection.
I have no problem with (overseas) buyers using drop-shipping or various addresses,
especially when the address is a valid Paypal address. When I prepare outgoing
orders, I only pay attention to the Paypal address -- the BL address is irrelevant
to me.
____
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Drop Shipping is more of a decision on the part of the individual seller, than
a site wide prohibition. Some sellers are OK with it, some are not. I do not
wish to (knowingly) be involved in any drop shipped order, as the middle-man
is running a virtual store with no actual inventory. Representing that they have
inventory is inflating the apparent inventory available on the net, and distorting
pricing (usually in an upward direction).
Nita Rae
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You are assuming there is re-selling going on. That could be -- I have no
way to know. This buyer has only purchased PARTS from me, so I assume the parts
are intended to be used to build and play with -- but again, I have no way
to know this for sure.
A buyers Feedback Rating of 9500 may tend to indicate reselling, but I highly
doubt that it could be done with virtual inventory without introducing a host
of potential problems and time delays caused by the third-party shipping.
To me, the use of multiple addresses could indicate the use of multiple re-shippers
to attempt to avoid massive import duties and taxes for the end user.
Whatever the case may be, this user appears to have completed more than 9500
Successful Bricklink purchases from very happy sellers. So, I still question
why their account was disabled because it seems Unwarranted. I suppose we may
never know the answer to that.
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Here are the reasons for removing buyer privileges...
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2460
3x Completed or 3x current NPB.
If there was some sort of selling scam going on, I'd imagine BL would remove
selling privileges too.
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Evading VAT and/or sales tax collection may also be a reason.
Nita Rae
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| | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 10:33 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 108 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
I could not find any mention of drop-shipping for buyers in either the Help files
or the Terms of Service. In the event that buyers are [no longer] allowed to
use drop-shipping, perhaps the Terms of Service should be written to expressly
prohibit this.
Reference: https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=bricks4life
This particular buyer account has recently had their buying privileges revoked
and I am unsure why.
This particular buyer account has purchased from me multiple times and always
with a different name and address to send the order. The user of the account
has communicated with me directly (and was very nice). In the case of this user,
each address was a valid Paypal address, so I had no issues nor did I give up
my Paypal seller protection.
I have no problem with (overseas) buyers using drop-shipping or various addresses,
especially when the address is a valid Paypal address. When I prepare outgoing
orders, I only pay attention to the Paypal address -- the BL address is irrelevant
to me.
____
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Now up to 9 transactions with the member, the last being two months ago. All
their purchases with us had the correct PP shipping address to the various addresses,
iow, no extra work on our end. Uneasy at first, yes. But less so after the first
few transactions, leading into no concerns on the backend of their buying run.
The member's not big on comms or participating in the feedback process, otherwise
painless. Couldn't say why they had their buying privileges revoked, I had
no issues with them, not to the extent of cutting-off their flow of funds through
the site, in any case.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1261927
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| | | | | | | Author: | TheBrickGuys | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 12:16 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, popsicle writes:
| | In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
I could not find any mention of drop-shipping for buyers in either the Help files
or the Terms of Service. In the event that buyers are [no longer] allowed to
use drop-shipping, perhaps the Terms of Service should be written to expressly
prohibit this.
Reference: https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=bricks4life
This particular buyer account has recently had their buying privileges revoked
and I am unsure why.
This particular buyer account has purchased from me multiple times and always
with a different name and address to send the order. The user of the account
has communicated with me directly (and was very nice). In the case of this user,
each address was a valid Paypal address, so I had no issues nor did I give up
my Paypal seller protection.
I have no problem with (overseas) buyers using drop-shipping or various addresses,
especially when the address is a valid Paypal address. When I prepare outgoing
orders, I only pay attention to the Paypal address -- the BL address is irrelevant
to me.
____
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Now up to 9 transactions with the member, the last being two months ago. All
their purchases with us had the correct PP shipping address to the various addresses,
iow, no extra work on our end. Uneasy at first, yes. But less so after the first
few transactions, leading into no concerns on the backend of their buying run.
The member's not big on comms or participating in the feedback process, otherwise
painless. Couldn't say why they had their buying privileges revoked, I had
no issues with them, not to the extent of cutting-off their flow of funds through
the site, in any case.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1261927
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We have had a ton of orders from him. Every order had a different address and
usually between $5.00 and $10.00 and every one of them worked out fine. It would
be interesting to know why his buying privileges were revoked?
Jim
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 12:52 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, TheBrickGuys writes:
| | In Buying, popsicle writes:
| | In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
I could not find any mention of drop-shipping for buyers in either the Help files
or the Terms of Service. In the event that buyers are [no longer] allowed to
use drop-shipping, perhaps the Terms of Service should be written to expressly
prohibit this.
Reference: https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=bricks4life
This particular buyer account has recently had their buying privileges revoked
and I am unsure why.
This particular buyer account has purchased from me multiple times and always
with a different name and address to send the order. The user of the account
has communicated with me directly (and was very nice). In the case of this user,
each address was a valid Paypal address, so I had no issues nor did I give up
my Paypal seller protection.
I have no problem with (overseas) buyers using drop-shipping or various addresses,
especially when the address is a valid Paypal address. When I prepare outgoing
orders, I only pay attention to the Paypal address -- the BL address is irrelevant
to me.
____
|
Now up to 9 transactions with the member, the last being two months ago. All
their purchases with us had the correct PP shipping address to the various addresses,
iow, no extra work on our end. Uneasy at first, yes. But less so after the first
few transactions, leading into no concerns on the backend of their buying run.
The member's not big on comms or participating in the feedback process, otherwise
painless. Couldn't say why they had their buying privileges revoked, I had
no issues with them, not to the extent of cutting-off their flow of funds through
the site, in any case.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1261927
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We have had a ton of orders from him. Every order had a different address and
usually between $5.00 and $10.00 and every one of them worked out fine.
|
| | It would be interesting to know why his buying privileges were revoked?
|
Me too, Jim. It could've been any number of reasons that don't involve
being troublesome for BL sellers.
Always a nice surprise seeing Skragle in your ID card whenever I enter your posts.
For others, here's more pics of him: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1154156
-popsicle
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | BigBBricks | | Posted: | Jul 19, 2021 12:10 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, popsicle writes:
| | In Buying, TheBrickGuys writes:
| | In Buying, popsicle writes:
| | In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
I could not find any mention of drop-shipping for buyers in either the Help files
or the Terms of Service. In the event that buyers are [no longer] allowed to
use drop-shipping, perhaps the Terms of Service should be written to expressly
prohibit this.
Reference: https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=bricks4life
This particular buyer account has recently had their buying privileges revoked
and I am unsure why.
This particular buyer account has purchased from me multiple times and always
with a different name and address to send the order. The user of the account
has communicated with me directly (and was very nice). In the case of this user,
each address was a valid Paypal address, so I had no issues nor did I give up
my Paypal seller protection.
I have no problem with (overseas) buyers using drop-shipping or various addresses,
especially when the address is a valid Paypal address. When I prepare outgoing
orders, I only pay attention to the Paypal address -- the BL address is irrelevant
to me.
____
|
Now up to 9 transactions with the member, the last being two months ago. All
their purchases with us had the correct PP shipping address to the various addresses,
iow, no extra work on our end. Uneasy at first, yes. But less so after the first
few transactions, leading into no concerns on the backend of their buying run.
The member's not big on comms or participating in the feedback process, otherwise
painless. Couldn't say why they had their buying privileges revoked, I had
no issues with them, not to the extent of cutting-off their flow of funds through
the site, in any case.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1261927
|
We have had a ton of orders from him. Every order had a different address and
usually between $5.00 and $10.00 and every one of them worked out fine.
|
| | It would be interesting to know why his buying privileges were revoked?
|
Me too, Jim. It could've been any number of reasons that don't involve
being troublesome for BL sellers.
Always a nice surprise seeing Skragle in your ID card whenever I enter your posts.
For others, here's more pics of him: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1154156
-popsicle
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We had lots of orders from them as well and never had a single problem. It was
obvious they were drop shipping items purchased on a different website and then
purchasing them from sellers on BL but they did it the right way and it was easy
for the seller.
If this is the route the NEW BL is going to go, I suggest they rethink. They
are just hurting themselves and the buyers here on BL, the drop shipper will
just move to BrickOwl if they haven't already.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Jul 19, 2021 13:18 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 79 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, BigBBricks writes:
| | In Buying, popsicle writes:
| | In Buying, TheBrickGuys writes:
| | In Buying, popsicle writes:
| | In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
I could not find any mention of drop-shipping for buyers in either the Help files
or the Terms of Service. In the event that buyers are [no longer] allowed to
use drop-shipping, perhaps the Terms of Service should be written to expressly
prohibit this.
Reference: https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=bricks4life
This particular buyer account has recently had their buying privileges revoked
and I am unsure why.
This particular buyer account has purchased from me multiple times and always
with a different name and address to send the order. The user of the account
has communicated with me directly (and was very nice). In the case of this user,
each address was a valid Paypal address, so I had no issues nor did I give up
my Paypal seller protection.
I have no problem with (overseas) buyers using drop-shipping or various addresses,
especially when the address is a valid Paypal address. When I prepare outgoing
orders, I only pay attention to the Paypal address -- the BL address is irrelevant
to me.
____
|
Now up to 9 transactions with the member, the last being two months ago. All
their purchases with us had the correct PP shipping address to the various addresses,
iow, no extra work on our end. Uneasy at first, yes. But less so after the first
few transactions, leading into no concerns on the backend of their buying run.
The member's not big on comms or participating in the feedback process, otherwise
painless. Couldn't say why they had their buying privileges revoked, I had
no issues with them, not to the extent of cutting-off their flow of funds through
the site, in any case.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1261927
|
We have had a ton of orders from him. Every order had a different address and
usually between $5.00 and $10.00 and every one of them worked out fine.
|
| | It would be interesting to know why his buying privileges were revoked?
|
Me too, Jim. It could've been any number of reasons that don't involve
being troublesome for BL sellers.
Always a nice surprise seeing Skragle in your ID card whenever I enter your posts.
For others, here's more pics of him: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1154156
-popsicle
|
We had lots of orders from them as well and never had a single problem. It was
obvious they were drop shipping items purchased on a different website and then
purchasing them from sellers on BL but they did it the right way and it was easy
for the seller.
If this is the route the NEW BL is going to go, I suggest they rethink. They
are just hurting themselves and the buyers here on BL, the drop shipper will
just move to BrickOwl if they haven't already.
|
Agreed, we think alike. It's not magic. When cut off, they don't just
dissipate, they flow another direction. Though if Paul's correct, that flow
was directed through another profile and naturally continues unabated 
Another observation: Again, if Paul's correct and the new account is in fact
the same folks with the new account being created upon losing their buying privileges?
Well then, simply take a look at the new profile's buying activity. That's
an impressive amount of business, given the timeframe (no doubt funds too,
given what they spent with us) running through the site for sellers.
Personally, I don't care much, not beyond the principle of it anyways. I've
no skin in the game, not any longer. But as I see it, worth pondering for those
that look forward to continued healthy commerce here.
That said, we don't know why the privileges were revoked, so...
-popsicle
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | BigBBricks | | Posted: | Jul 19, 2021 14:24 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, popsicle writes:
| | In Buying, BigBBricks writes:
| | In Buying, popsicle writes:
| | In Buying, TheBrickGuys writes:
| | In Buying, popsicle writes:
| | In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
I could not find any mention of drop-shipping for buyers in either the Help files
or the Terms of Service. In the event that buyers are [no longer] allowed to
use drop-shipping, perhaps the Terms of Service should be written to expressly
prohibit this.
Reference: https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=bricks4life
This particular buyer account has recently had their buying privileges revoked
and I am unsure why.
This particular buyer account has purchased from me multiple times and always
with a different name and address to send the order. The user of the account
has communicated with me directly (and was very nice). In the case of this user,
each address was a valid Paypal address, so I had no issues nor did I give up
my Paypal seller protection.
I have no problem with (overseas) buyers using drop-shipping or various addresses,
especially when the address is a valid Paypal address. When I prepare outgoing
orders, I only pay attention to the Paypal address -- the BL address is irrelevant
to me.
____
|
Now up to 9 transactions with the member, the last being two months ago. All
their purchases with us had the correct PP shipping address to the various addresses,
iow, no extra work on our end. Uneasy at first, yes. But less so after the first
few transactions, leading into no concerns on the backend of their buying run.
The member's not big on comms or participating in the feedback process, otherwise
painless. Couldn't say why they had their buying privileges revoked, I had
no issues with them, not to the extent of cutting-off their flow of funds through
the site, in any case.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1261927
|
We have had a ton of orders from him. Every order had a different address and
usually between $5.00 and $10.00 and every one of them worked out fine.
|
| | It would be interesting to know why his buying privileges were revoked?
|
Me too, Jim. It could've been any number of reasons that don't involve
being troublesome for BL sellers.
Always a nice surprise seeing Skragle in your ID card whenever I enter your posts.
For others, here's more pics of him: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1154156
-popsicle
|
We had lots of orders from them as well and never had a single problem. It was
obvious they were drop shipping items purchased on a different website and then
purchasing them from sellers on BL but they did it the right way and it was easy
for the seller.
If this is the route the NEW BL is going to go, I suggest they rethink. They
are just hurting themselves and the buyers here on BL, the drop shipper will
just move to BrickOwl if they haven't already.
|
Agreed, we think alike. It's not magic. When cut off, they don't just
dissipate, they flow another direction. Though if Paul's correct, that flow
was directed through another profile and naturally continues unabated
Another observation: Again, if Paul's correct and the new account is in fact
the same folks with the new account being created upon losing their buying privileges?
Well then, simply take a look at the new profile's buying activity. That's
an impressive amount of business, given the timeframe (no doubt funds too,
given what they spent with us) running through the site for sellers.
Personally, I don't care much, not beyond the principle of it anyways. I've
no skin in the game, not any longer. But as I see it, worth pondering for those
that look forward to continued healthy commerce here.
That said, we don't know why the privileges were revoked, so...
-popsicle
|
In this day and age, I would not put the banning past some member that complained
too loudly because they were ultimately jealous of what this buyer has been able
to do on the side to generate LEGO sales off site.
I find it amazing that people sometimes forget that this site is driven and paid
for by ecommerce sales. If we want improvements to the site additional sales
via whoever makes them, is beneficial to the site.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Jul 19, 2021 14:44 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 102 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, BigBBricks writes:
| | In Buying, popsicle writes:
| | In Buying, BigBBricks writes:
| | In Buying, popsicle writes:
| | In Buying, TheBrickGuys writes:
| | In Buying, popsicle writes:
| | In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
I could not find any mention of drop-shipping for buyers in either the Help files
or the Terms of Service. In the event that buyers are [no longer] allowed to
use drop-shipping, perhaps the Terms of Service should be written to expressly
prohibit this.
Reference: https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=bricks4life
This particular buyer account has recently had their buying privileges revoked
and I am unsure why.
This particular buyer account has purchased from me multiple times and always
with a different name and address to send the order. The user of the account
has communicated with me directly (and was very nice). In the case of this user,
each address was a valid Paypal address, so I had no issues nor did I give up
my Paypal seller protection.
I have no problem with (overseas) buyers using drop-shipping or various addresses,
especially when the address is a valid Paypal address. When I prepare outgoing
orders, I only pay attention to the Paypal address -- the BL address is irrelevant
to me.
____
|
Now up to 9 transactions with the member, the last being two months ago. All
their purchases with us had the correct PP shipping address to the various addresses,
iow, no extra work on our end. Uneasy at first, yes. But less so after the first
few transactions, leading into no concerns on the backend of their buying run.
The member's not big on comms or participating in the feedback process, otherwise
painless. Couldn't say why they had their buying privileges revoked, I had
no issues with them, not to the extent of cutting-off their flow of funds through
the site, in any case.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1261927
|
We have had a ton of orders from him. Every order had a different address and
usually between $5.00 and $10.00 and every one of them worked out fine.
|
| | It would be interesting to know why his buying privileges were revoked?
|
Me too, Jim. It could've been any number of reasons that don't involve
being troublesome for BL sellers.
Always a nice surprise seeing Skragle in your ID card whenever I enter your posts.
For others, here's more pics of him: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1154156
-popsicle
|
We had lots of orders from them as well and never had a single problem. It was
obvious they were drop shipping items purchased on a different website and then
purchasing them from sellers on BL but they did it the right way and it was easy
for the seller.
If this is the route the NEW BL is going to go, I suggest they rethink. They
are just hurting themselves and the buyers here on BL, the drop shipper will
just move to BrickOwl if they haven't already.
|
Agreed, we think alike. It's not magic. When cut off, they don't just
dissipate, they flow another direction. Though if Paul's correct, that flow
was directed through another profile and naturally continues unabated
Another observation: Again, if Paul's correct and the new account is in fact
the same folks with the new account being created upon losing their buying privileges?
Well then, simply take a look at the new profile's buying activity. That's
an impressive amount of business, given the timeframe (no doubt funds too,
given what they spent with us) running through the site for sellers.
Personally, I don't care much, not beyond the principle of it anyways. I've
no skin in the game, not any longer. But as I see it, worth pondering for those
that look forward to continued healthy commerce here.
That said, we don't know why the privileges were revoked, so...
-popsicle
|
In this day and age, I would not put the banning past some member that complained
too loudly because they were ultimately jealous of what this buyer has been able
to do on the side to generate LEGO sales off site.
I find it amazing that people sometimes forget that this site is driven and paid
for by ecommerce sales. If we want improvements to the site additional sales
via whoever makes them, is beneficial to the site.
|
It is what it is, the cards that are dealt, as they say...
Send the new profile a coupon with your thoughts expressed in the coupon notes:
https://www.bricklink.com/orderCouponAdd.asp
Not that they'll read it, but use the coupon, no doubt.
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| | | | | Author: | BrickBuy | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 13:34 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
I could not find any mention of drop-shipping for buyers in either the Help files
or the Terms of Service. In the event that buyers are [no longer] allowed to
use drop-shipping, perhaps the Terms of Service should be written to expressly
prohibit this.
Reference: https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=bricks4life
This particular buyer account has recently had their buying privileges revoked
and I am unsure why.
This particular buyer account has purchased from me multiple times and always
with a different name and address to send the order. The user of the account
has communicated with me directly (and was very nice). In the case of this user,
each address was a valid Paypal address, so I had no issues nor did I give up
my Paypal seller protection.
I have no problem with (overseas) buyers using drop-shipping or various addresses,
especially when the address is a valid Paypal address. When I prepare outgoing
orders, I only pay attention to the Paypal address -- the BL address is irrelevant
to me.
|
User has a second profile since the day this profile got blocked by BL from buying.:
https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=opera101
was reported as duplicate profile, but no action taken for over 2 weeks by BL.
Exact verbatim messages and drop shipping. Name A N then changed to B M in second
profile.
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| | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 14:01 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 77 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, BrickBuy writes:
| | In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
I could not find any mention of drop-shipping for buyers in either the Help files
or the Terms of Service. In the event that buyers are [no longer] allowed to
use drop-shipping, perhaps the Terms of Service should be written to expressly
prohibit this.
Reference: https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=bricks4life
This particular buyer account has recently had their buying privileges revoked
and I am unsure why.
This particular buyer account has purchased from me multiple times and always
with a different name and address to send the order. The user of the account
has communicated with me directly (and was very nice). In the case of this user,
each address was a valid Paypal address, so I had no issues nor did I give up
my Paypal seller protection.
I have no problem with (overseas) buyers using drop-shipping or various addresses,
especially when the address is a valid Paypal address. When I prepare outgoing
orders, I only pay attention to the Paypal address -- the BL address is irrelevant
to me.
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User has a second profile since the day this profile got blocked by BL from buying.:
https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=opera101
was reported as duplicate profile, but no action taken for over 2 weeks by BL.
Exact verbatim messages and drop shipping. Name A N then changed to B M in second
profile.
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Thanks.
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| | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 20:31 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, BrickBuy writes:
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User has a second profile since the day this profile got blocked by BL from buying.:
https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=opera101
was reported as duplicate profile, but no action taken for over 2 weeks by BL.
Exact verbatim messages and drop shipping. Name A N then changed to B M in second
profile.
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I've also had no issue with this buyer. Quick payments, no issue with the
addresses, great communication. I understand why some people are nervous about
drop-shipping, but I was happy to have a string of good sales from my shop.
Jen
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| | | | | | | Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 22:17 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| How'd you figure this out? Did he buy from you under both the old and new
profile?
In Buying, BrickBuy writes:
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User has a second profile since the day this profile got blocked by BL from buying.:
https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=opera101
was reported as duplicate profile, but no action taken for over 2 weeks by BL.
Exact verbatim messages and drop shipping. Name A N then changed to B M in second
profile.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | bahpstore | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 23:12 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, zorbanj writes:
| | How'd you figure this out? Did he buy from you under both the old and new
profile?
In Buying, BrickBuy writes:
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User has a second profile since the day this profile got blocked by BL from buying.:
https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=opera101
was reported as duplicate profile, but no action taken for over 2 weeks by BL.
Exact verbatim messages and drop shipping. Name A N then changed to B M in second
profile.
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I can confirm this, same PayPal account too.
Personally I have no problem with drop ship. Had 92 orders under old profile
and 2 new. A few orders were not drop ship orders, checked us out I guess
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | BrickBuy | | Posted: | Jul 19, 2021 07:29 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, zorbanj writes:
| | How'd you figure this out? Did he buy from you under both the old and new
profile?
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Yes, identical verbatim messages, request to omit packing slip, and PayPal payments.
100% same buyer. I guess Admin allows duplicate accounts now ? This buyer made
the second account the same day his first account got blocked.
| | In Buying, BrickBuy writes:
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User has a second profile since the day this profile got blocked by BL from buying.:
https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=opera101
was reported as duplicate profile, but no action taken for over 2 weeks by BL.
Exact verbatim messages and drop shipping. Name A N then changed to B M in second
profile.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 19, 2021 08:33 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, BrickBuy writes:
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I guess Admin allows duplicate accounts now ?
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My guess is they catch a few but mainly rely on reports for members (and it takes
them time to act on them).
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | BigBBricks | | Posted: | Jul 19, 2021 12:13 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Buying, BrickBuy writes:
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I guess Admin allows duplicate accounts now ?
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My guess is they catch a few but mainly rely on reports for members (and it takes
them time to act on them).
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Why catch any? This only hurts BL and the buyers bottom line.
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| | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Jul 19, 2021 09:23 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping to receive purchases?
I could not find any mention of drop-shipping for buyers in either the Help files
or the Terms of Service. In the event that buyers are [no longer] allowed to
use drop-shipping, perhaps the Terms of Service should be written to expressly
prohibit this.
Reference: https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=bricks4life
This particular buyer account has recently had their buying privileges revoked
and I am unsure why.
This particular buyer account has purchased from me multiple times and always
with a different name and address to send the order. The user of the account
has communicated with me directly (and was very nice). In the case of this user,
each address was a valid Paypal address, so I had no issues nor did I give up
my Paypal seller protection.
I have no problem with (overseas) buyers using drop-shipping or various addresses,
especially when the address is a valid Paypal address. When I prepare outgoing
orders, I only pay attention to the Paypal address -- the BL address is irrelevant
to me.
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As far as I understand it there are no rules against drop shipping as long as
the actual sale has been generated on another platform and not bricklink itself.
Bricklink sellers are expected to hold physical stock most likely so as to reduce
the risk of Bricklink customers being let down. At the end of the day if a customer
from another platform gets let down it won't negatively affect the reputaion/reliability
of shopping on Briclink!
Judging by the fact that the buyer has not made any sales on Bricklink it can
only mean restrictions have been imposed because of their buying activity most
likely because they have failed to meet their buying comitments. i.e they've
probably received too many NPB cases filed against them. Drop shipping can present
problems especially if the drop shippers own customer pulls out or perhaps the
item goes up in price to the point that after shipping the drop shipper makes
no money. All these added risks can lead to a higher liklihood of cancellations
which won't always go down very well with Bricklink sellers!
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| | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Jul 19, 2021 10:33 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, infinibrix writes:
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As far as I understand it there are no rules against drop shipping as long as
the actual sale has been generated on another platform and not bricklink itself.
Bricklink sellers are expected to hold physical stock most likely so as to reduce
the risk of Bricklink customers being let down. At the end of the day if a customer
from another platform gets let down it won't negatively affect the reputaion/reliability
of shopping on Briclink!
Judging by the fact that the buyer has not made any sales on Bricklink it can
only mean restrictions have been imposed because of their buying activity most
likely because they have failed to meet their buying comitments. i.e they've
probably received too many NPB cases filed against them. Drop shipping can present
problems especially if the drop shippers own customer pulls out or perhaps the
item goes up in price to the point that after shipping the drop shipper makes
no money. All these added risks can lead to a higher liklihood of cancellations
which won't always go down very well with Bricklink sellers!
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I kinda doubt this buyer received too many NPBs. How many of us have spoken up
about our positive experience with them? 9000 feedback with only 1 negative says
a lot.
Jen
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | BigBBricks | | Posted: | Jul 19, 2021 12:15 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, jennnifer writes:
| | In Buying, infinibrix writes:
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As far as I understand it there are no rules against drop shipping as long as
the actual sale has been generated on another platform and not bricklink itself.
Bricklink sellers are expected to hold physical stock most likely so as to reduce
the risk of Bricklink customers being let down. At the end of the day if a customer
from another platform gets let down it won't negatively affect the reputaion/reliability
of shopping on Briclink!
Judging by the fact that the buyer has not made any sales on Bricklink it can
only mean restrictions have been imposed because of their buying activity most
likely because they have failed to meet their buying comitments. i.e they've
probably received too many NPB cases filed against them. Drop shipping can present
problems especially if the drop shippers own customer pulls out or perhaps the
item goes up in price to the point that after shipping the drop shipper makes
no money. All these added risks can lead to a higher liklihood of cancellations
which won't always go down very well with Bricklink sellers!
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I kinda doubt this buyer received too many NPBs. How many of us have spoken up
about our positive experience with them? 9000 feedback with only 1 negative says
a lot.
Jen
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+1
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Jul 19, 2021 12:28 | | Subject: | Re: Are Buyers allowed to use Drop-Shipping ? | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, jennnifer writes:
| | In Buying, infinibrix writes:
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As far as I understand it there are no rules against drop shipping as long as
the actual sale has been generated on another platform and not bricklink itself.
Bricklink sellers are expected to hold physical stock most likely so as to reduce
the risk of Bricklink customers being let down. At the end of the day if a customer
from another platform gets let down it won't negatively affect the reputaion/reliability
of shopping on Briclink!
Judging by the fact that the buyer has not made any sales on Bricklink it can
only mean restrictions have been imposed because of their buying activity most
likely because they have failed to meet their buying comitments. i.e they've
probably received too many NPB cases filed against them. Drop shipping can present
problems especially if the drop shippers own customer pulls out or perhaps the
item goes up in price to the point that after shipping the drop shipper makes
no money. All these added risks can lead to a higher liklihood of cancellations
which won't always go down very well with Bricklink sellers!
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I kinda doubt this buyer received too many NPBs. How many of us have spoken up
about our positive experience with them? 9000 feedback with only 1 negative says
a lot.
Jen
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But a couple of dozen people in the forum saying they've only ever had smooth
transactions does'nt really prove very much though? How did the other 8000+
transactions go? Feedback does'nt always present you with the full picture!
As far as I understand it you only need 3 NPB's where it ends with a seller
deciding to punish the buyer and the buyers privileges are permanently revoked.
In truth it could probably happen to any one of us and it may even be that the
sellers they were dealing with were the issue and we're being particularly
unhelpful and unaccomodating to a reasonable requests to cancel?
Incidentally correct me if I'm wrong but is'nt it the case that if a
seller opens a NPB and the buyer asks to cancel the order, the seller can then
agree to cancel but also still punish the buyer without their knowledge? The
seller may also choose to leave positive feedback for future business purposes
especially if the buyer is normally a good customer?
Either which way its very easy for a seller to raise an NPB case to a strike
if they are that way inclined so however decent a person the buyer might be might
not always even come into it
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