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| | | Author: | tons_of_bricks  | | Posted: | May 25, 2021 06:51 | | Subject: | 47566pb02L and 87568pb02L Different? | | Viewed: | 116 times | | Topic: | Problem | |
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| I have a mad buyer because he ordered 87568pb02L and 47566 was stamped on the
piece. According to him: 47566pb02L has a light gray print and 87568pb02L has
a white print.
He himself said he knows that bricklink has 47566pb02L as an alternate item number
to 87568pb02L but also says that I listed on the wrong listing. I got that piece
from a new set and know I listed it correctly.
So is there actually a difference in print between the two? If so, there should
be a note on the listing (like 2345p01) or separated listings (like what happened
to 92747pb01). The buyer is having a very hard time understanding that I didn't
make a mistake. He's saying it's my responsibility to make sure I list
items correctly, which I did.
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| | | | | Author: | MrPetovan | | Posted: | May 25, 2021 08:20 | | Subject: | Re: 47566pb02L and 87568pb02L Different? | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Problem | |
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| If he knows about the alternate item number, then he should know that there isn't
another part page for the alternate number you could have used to list the part
you sold them.
So even if there was an actual color distinction between either parts, you simply
couldn't have known from the catalog and were rightfully justified listing
the part.
In Problem, firestar246 writes:
| | I have a mad buyer because he ordered 87568pb02L and 47566 was stamped on the
piece. According to him: 47566pb02L has a light gray print and 87568pb02L has
a white print.
He himself said he knows that bricklink has 47566pb02L as an alternate item number
to 87568pb02L but also says that I listed on the wrong listing. I got that piece
from a new set and know I listed it correctly.
So is there actually a difference in print between the two? If so, there should
be a note on the listing (like 2345p01) or separated listings (like what happened
to 92747pb01). The buyer is having a very hard time understanding that I didn't
make a mistake. He's saying it's my responsibility to make sure I list
items correctly, which I did.
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| | | | | | | Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | May 25, 2021 08:45 | | Subject: | Re: 47566pb02L and 87568pb02L Different? | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Problem | |
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| In Problem, MrPetovan writes:
| | If he knows about the alternate item number, then he should know that there isn't
another part page for the alternate number you could have used to list the part
you sold them.
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He should. I tried explaining that. But he says I listed it incorrectly and it
is my responsibility to list items correctly. I agreed that as a seller I have
that responsibility, but that I did list it correctly. I told him that if he
can show me the listing I should have listed the piece under, I will refund him
for the part. Haven't heard back from him yet.
Hopefully everything will get worked out, though if there is a distinct color
difference in the print, then I do feel that the listing should be split. I just
have no proof or evidence of such, only this customer's complaint.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | MrPetovan | | Posted: | May 25, 2021 08:51 | | Subject: | Re: 47566pb02L and 87568pb02L Different? | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Problem | |
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| I'm sorry about that, the catalog will never be perfect, but I believe it
still is the absolute reference for transactions between Buyers and Sellers on
BrickLink since there is no other reference.
In Problem, firestar246 writes:
| | He should. I tried explaining that. But he says I listed it incorrectly and it
is my responsibility to list items correctly. I agreed that as a seller I have
that responsibility, but that I did list it correctly. I told him that if he
can show me the listing I should have listed the piece under, I will refund him
for the part. Haven't heard back from him yet.
Hopefully everything will get worked out, though if there is a distinct color
difference in the print, then I do feel that the listing should be split. I just
have no proof or evidence of such, only this customer's complaint.
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| | | | | Author: | psusaxman2000 | | Posted: | May 25, 2021 08:28 | | Subject: | Re: 47566pb02L and 87568pb02L Different? | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Problem | |
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| In Problem, firestar246 writes:
| | I have a mad buyer because he ordered 87568pb02L and 47566 was stamped on the
piece. According to him: 47566pb02L has a light gray print and 87568pb02L has
a white print.
He himself said he knows that bricklink has 47566pb02L as an alternate item number
to 87568pb02L but also says that I listed on the wrong listing. I got that piece
from a new set and know I listed it correctly.
So is there actually a difference in print between the two? If so, there should
be a note on the listing (like 2345p01) or separated listings (like what happened
to 92747pb01). The buyer is having a very hard time understanding that I didn't
make a mistake. He's saying it's my responsibility to make sure I list
items correctly, which I did.
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It's not possible to list a part just under the alternate number. Even if
you search for the alternate, the "master" number is what appears. If there
is no separate listing, then there is no difference for BL to truly separate
them.
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| | | | | | | Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | May 25, 2021 08:39 | | Subject: | Re: 47566pb02L and 87568pb02L Different? | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Problem | |
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| In Problem, psusaxman2000 writes:
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It's not possible to list a part just under the alternate number. Even if
you search for the alternate, the "master" number is what appears. If there
is no separate listing, then there is no difference for BL to truly separate
them.
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I know this, but the customer evidentially doesn't. He has over 100 feedback
and has been a user since 2016, you'd think he'd understand how bricklink
works by now.
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| | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | May 25, 2021 09:13 | | Subject: | Re: 47566pb02L and 87568pb02L Different? | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Problem | |
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| In Problem, firestar246 writes:
| | I have a mad buyer because he ordered 87568pb02L and 47566 was stamped on the
piece. According to him: 47566pb02L has a light gray print and 87568pb02L has
a white print.
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He himself said he knows that bricklink has 47566pb02L as an alternate item number
to 87568pb02L but also says that I listed on the wrong listing. I got that piece
from a new set and know I listed it correctly.
So is there actually a difference in print between the two? If so, there should
be a note on the listing (like 2345p01)
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| | or separated listings (like what happened
to 92747pb01).
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| | The buyer is having a very hard time understanding that I didn't
make a mistake. He's saying it's my responsibility to make sure I list
items correctly, which I did.
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I am not sure about the differences, but since BL only has one entry for all
versions, it's up to the buyer to inquire if the seller has the exact variation
they wish to buy. They placed an order for 87568pb02L and you don't have
a crystal ball. ( I assume so, anyway.) I looked quickly and didn't see other
sellers listing this part with a note about the number or print color.
We need our resident Star Wars minifig expert! I only have the older version
so I can't help with the comparison.
Good luck with your buyer... hope they listen to reason.
Jen
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| | | | | | | Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | May 25, 2021 09:58 | | Subject: | Re: 47566pb02L and 87568pb02L Different? | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Problem | |
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| In Problem, jennnifer writes:
| | I am not sure about the differences, but since BL only has one entry for all
versions, it's up to the buyer to inquire if the seller has the exact variation
they wish to buy. They placed an order for 87568pb02L and you don't have
a crystal ball. ( I assume so, anyway.) I looked quickly and didn't see other
sellers listing this part with a note about the number or print color.
We need our resident Star Wars minifig expert! I only have the older version
so I can't help with the comparison.
Good luck with your buyer... hope they listen to reason.
Jen
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I remember putting the order together and getting that piece, it looked like
a white print to me. My guess is that it isn't as strong of a print, so it
looks gray and slightly out of place on the minifigure he already has. I'm
going to show him this thread. Maybe seeing that others are in agreement with
me will help him understand.
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| | | | | Author: | Turez | | Posted: | May 25, 2021 11:31 | | Subject: | Re: 47566pb02L and 87568pb02L Different? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Problem | |
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| In Problem, firestar246 writes:
| | I have a mad buyer because he ordered 87568pb02L and 47566 was stamped on the
piece. According to him: 47566pb02L has a light gray print and 87568pb02L has
a white print.
He himself said he knows that bricklink has 47566pb02L as an alternate item number
to 87568pb02L but also says that I listed on the wrong listing. I got that piece
from a new set and know I listed it correctly.
So is there actually a difference in print between the two? If so, there should
be a note on the listing (like 2345p01) or separated listings (like what happened
to 92747pb01). The buyer is having a very hard time understanding that I didn't
make a mistake. He's saying it's my responsibility to make sure I list
items correctly, which I did.
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According to Brickset the General Grievous figures from 2014, 2018 and 2020 are
exactly the same.
https://brickset.com/article/32950
https://brickset.com/article/52574
If you ask me, small print variations are totally normal, especially for parts
which have been produced over a longer period of time. And white color on those
arms can easily look a bit grayish due to the dark background.
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| | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | May 25, 2021 12:40 | | Subject: | Re: 47566pb02L and 87568pb02L Different? | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Problem | |
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| In Problem, Turez writes:
| | In Problem, firestar246 writes:
| | I have a mad buyer because he ordered 87568pb02L and 47566 was stamped on the
piece. According to him: 47566pb02L has a light gray print and 87568pb02L has
a white print.
He himself said he knows that bricklink has 47566pb02L as an alternate item number
to 87568pb02L but also says that I listed on the wrong listing. I got that piece
from a new set and know I listed it correctly.
So is there actually a difference in print between the two? If so, there should
be a note on the listing (like 2345p01) or separated listings (like what happened
to 92747pb01). The buyer is having a very hard time understanding that I didn't
make a mistake. He's saying it's my responsibility to make sure I list
items correctly, which I did.
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According to Brickset the General Grievous figures from 2014, 2018 and 2020 are
exactly the same.
https://brickset.com/article/32950
https://brickset.com/article/52574
If you ask me, small print variations are totally normal, especially for parts
which have been produced over a longer period of time. And white color on those
arms can easily look a bit grayish due to the dark background.
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+1
Inconsistent production quality over the years, due in large measure to production
re/location and the type or quality print used in the new setup. White print
on darker colors is simply accentuated more than other print colors of substandard
quality. Unintentional production variation, iow.
TMK, of course 
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| | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 25, 2021 12:31 | | Subject: | Re: 47566pb02L and 87568pb02L Different? | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Problem | |
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| In Problem, firestar246 writes:
| | I have a mad buyer because he ordered 87568pb02L and 47566 was stamped on the
piece. According to him: 47566pb02L has a light gray print and 87568pb02L has
a white print.
He himself said he knows that bricklink has 47566pb02L as an alternate item number
to 87568pb02L but also says that I listed on the wrong listing. I got that piece
from a new set and know I listed it correctly.
So is there actually a difference in print between the two? If so, there should
be a note on the listing (like 2345p01) or separated listings (like what happened
to 92747pb01). The buyer is having a very hard time understanding that I didn't
make a mistake. He's saying it's my responsibility to make sure I list
items correctly, which I did.
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The version with tan printing is
It was released in 2010 and has a Design ID corresponding to that time frame
(the latter 8xxxx and beginning 9xxxx were being used at that time).
The version with white printing is
It was first released in 2014 with the old mold number. Then, the mold was redone
and numbered as 47566 for use in the 2018 and 2020 sets.
All this to say, there is no way that the tan version would have ever had 47566
molded into it. Only the white version has the newer mold number.
Cheers,
Randy
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| | | | | | | Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | May 25, 2021 12:34 | | Subject: | Re: 47566pb02L and 87568pb02L Different? | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Problem | |
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| In Problem, randyf writes:
| | In Problem, firestar246 writes:
| | I have a mad buyer because he ordered 87568pb02L and 47566 was stamped on the
piece. According to him: 47566pb02L has a light gray print and 87568pb02L has
a white print.
He himself said he knows that bricklink has 47566pb02L as an alternate item number
to 87568pb02L but also says that I listed on the wrong listing. I got that piece
from a new set and know I listed it correctly.
So is there actually a difference in print between the two? If so, there should
be a note on the listing (like 2345p01) or separated listings (like what happened
to 92747pb01). The buyer is having a very hard time understanding that I didn't
make a mistake. He's saying it's my responsibility to make sure I list
items correctly, which I did.
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The version with tan printing is
It was released in 2010 and has a Design ID corresponding to that time frame
(the latter 8xxxx and beginning 9xxxx were being used at that time).
The version with white printing is
It was first released in 2014 with the old mold number. Then, the mold was redone
and numbered as 47566 for use in the 2018 and 2020 sets.
All this to say, there is no way that the tan version would have ever had 47566
molded into it. Only the white version has the newer mold number.
Cheers,
Randy
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Thanks for the info. Customer seems to think there is a third color print of
light gray and that the 47566 always has the light gray and the 87568 always
has the white. I asked for a picture of the piece I sent him next to the figure
he has but he never did.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 25, 2021 13:28 | | Subject: | Re: 47566pb02L and 87568pb02L Different? | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Problem | |
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| In Problem, firestar246 writes:
| | In Problem, randyf writes:
| | In Problem, firestar246 writes:
| | I have a mad buyer because he ordered 87568pb02L and 47566 was stamped on the
piece. According to him: 47566pb02L has a light gray print and 87568pb02L has
a white print.
He himself said he knows that bricklink has 47566pb02L as an alternate item number
to 87568pb02L but also says that I listed on the wrong listing. I got that piece
from a new set and know I listed it correctly.
So is there actually a difference in print between the two? If so, there should
be a note on the listing (like 2345p01) or separated listings (like what happened
to 92747pb01). The buyer is having a very hard time understanding that I didn't
make a mistake. He's saying it's my responsibility to make sure I list
items correctly, which I did.
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The version with tan printing is
It was released in 2010 and has a Design ID corresponding to that time frame
(the latter 8xxxx and beginning 9xxxx were being used at that time).
The version with white printing is
It was first released in 2014 with the old mold number. Then, the mold was redone
and numbered as 47566 for use in the 2018 and 2020 sets.
All this to say, there is no way that the tan version would have ever had 47566
molded into it. Only the white version has the newer mold number.
Cheers,
Randy
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Thanks for the info. Customer seems to think there is a third color print of
light gray and that the 47566 always has the light gray and the 87568 always
has the white. I asked for a picture of the piece I sent him next to the figure
he has but he never did.
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Oops. My bad. I read "tan" in your original message instead of "light gray" since
I had just dealt with these parts a couple weeks ago.
The only thing I can think of is print density, then. The color white *is* printed
on dark bluish gray, so it will look light gray if not printed thick enough.
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