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 Author: Leftoverbricks View Messages Posted By Leftoverbricks
 Posted: Dec 9, 2020 08:36
 Subject: Why is this part in Panels?
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Leftoverbricks (2225)

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Why is part
 
Part No: 49699 Name: Panel 1 x 6 x 4 1/3 with Window and 4 Pin Holes
* 		49699 Panel 1 x 6 x 4 1/3 with Window and 4 Pin Holes
Parts: Panel
in Panels and not in one of the Technic categories?
Just curious because it doesn't look like a panel at all https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?pg=1&catString=91&catType=P.
Seems to me more a Connector.
 Author: tons_of_bricks View Messages Posted By tons_of_bricks
 Posted: Dec 9, 2020 08:51
 Subject: Re: Why is this part in Panels?
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Why is part
 
Part No: 49699 Name: Panel 1 x 6 x 4 1/3 with Window and 4 Pin Holes
* 		49699 Panel 1 x 6 x 4 1/3 with Window and 4 Pin Holes
Parts: Panel
in Panels and not in one of the Technic categories?
Just curious because it doesn't look like a panel at all https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?pg=1&catString=91&catType=P.
Seems to me more a Connector.

I believe there was quite the discussion about this unusual piece when it first
came out. From Brick Modified to Technic to Door Frame, everyone seemed to think
it should be anywhere but panel.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Dec 9, 2020 09:43
 Subject: Re: Why is this part in Panels?
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In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Why is part
 
Part No: 49699 Name: Panel 1 x 6 x 4 1/3 with Window and 4 Pin Holes
* 		49699 Panel 1 x 6 x 4 1/3 with Window and 4 Pin Holes
Parts: Panel
in Panels and not in one of the Technic categories?
Just curious because it doesn't look like a panel at all https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?pg=1&catString=91&catType=P.
Seems to me more a Connector.

I believe there was quite the discussion about this unusual piece when it first
came out. From Brick Modified to Technic to Door Frame, everyone seemed to think
it should be anywhere but panel.

I think that was me who started that and yes the conclusion was to just accept
it since everyone expected it somewher else As for me, I'd prefer Door/Door
Frame.
 Author: jonwil View Messages Posted By jonwil
 Posted: Dec 10, 2020 06:12
 Subject: Re: Why is this part in Panels?
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  I believe there was quite the discussion about this unusual piece when it first
came out. From Brick Modified to Technic to Door Frame, everyone seemed to think
it should be anywhere but panel.

In case it somehow influences the discussion I should point out that LEGO has
put it in the same category in their database as the sort of parts Bricklink
labels "brick, modified".

I definitely agree panel is the wrong place for it. Technic isn't suitable
either.
Given how its been used in sets (between modules in some spaceships/stations
and one underwater station), Door Frame seems logical to me. That or Brick,
Modified like LEGO labeled it.
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Dec 10, 2020 06:19
 Subject: Re: Why is this part in Panels?
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In Catalog, jonwil writes:
  
  I believe there was quite the discussion about this unusual piece when it first
came out. From Brick Modified to Technic to Door Frame, everyone seemed to think
it should be anywhere but panel.

In case it somehow influences the discussion I should point out that LEGO has
put it in the same category in their database as the sort of parts Bricklink
labels "brick, modified".

I definitely agree panel is the wrong place for it. Technic isn't suitable
either.
Given how its been used in sets (between modules in some spaceships/stations
and one underwater station), Door Frame seems logical to me. That or Brick,
Modified like LEGO labeled it.

Before that would be better do the Catalog project 29.9 that is:

Combine Door Frame and Window categories presumably to make a Frame category
and define it.
 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
 Posted: Dec 10, 2020 07:36
 Subject: Re: Why is this part in Panels?
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, jonwil writes:
  
  I believe there was quite the discussion about this unusual piece when it first
came out. From Brick Modified to Technic to Door Frame, everyone seemed to think
it should be anywhere but panel.

In case it somehow influences the discussion I should point out that LEGO has
put it in the same category in their database as the sort of parts Bricklink
labels "brick, modified".

I definitely agree panel is the wrong place for it. Technic isn't suitable
either.
Given how its been used in sets (between modules in some spaceships/stations
and one underwater station), Door Frame seems logical to me. That or Brick,
Modified like LEGO labeled it.

Before that would be better do the Catalog project 29.9 that is:

Combine Door Frame and Window categories presumably to make a Frame category
and define it.

+1 and also project 25. But the roadmap does seem to have hit a patch of quicksand
again, so maybe that part should just be requested to go to door frame (it is
definitely not a panel)
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Dec 9, 2020 08:58
 Subject: Re: Why is this part in Panels?
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Why is part
 
Part No: 49699 Name: Panel 1 x 6 x 4 1/3 with Window and 4 Pin Holes
* 		49699 Panel 1 x 6 x 4 1/3 with Window and 4 Pin Holes
Parts: Panel
in Panels and not in one of the Technic categories?
Just curious because it doesn't look like a panel at all https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?pg=1&catString=91&catType=P.
Seems to me more a Connector.

See https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=258406&nID=1160384
 Author: Leftoverbricks View Messages Posted By Leftoverbricks
 Posted: Dec 9, 2020 09:46
 Subject: Re: Why is this part in Panels?
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In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Why is part
 
Part No: 49699 Name: Panel 1 x 6 x 4 1/3 with Window and 4 Pin Holes
* 		49699 Panel 1 x 6 x 4 1/3 with Window and 4 Pin Holes
Parts: Panel
in Panels and not in one of the Technic categories?
Just curious because it doesn't look like a panel at all https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?pg=1&catString=91&catType=P.
Seems to me more a Connector.

See https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=258406&nID=1160384

Thanks, haven't seen that one. But none of the catmins joined that discussion
so here's my invitation to the catmins to have their say.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Dec 9, 2020 10:38
 Subject: Re: Why is this part in Panels?
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Thanks, haven't seen that one. But none of the catalog administrators joined that discussion
so here's my invitation to the catalog administrators to have their say.

I'd suggest glancing through this page:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1568

See if it offers guidance on how to categorize this specific part.

If it does: in which category should the part go?

If it doesn't: how should the Help page be updated to account for
this part?
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Dec 9, 2020 16:51
 Subject: Re: Why is this part in Panels?
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Why is part
 
Part No: 49699 Name: Panel 1 x 6 x 4 1/3 with Window and 4 Pin Holes
* 		49699 Panel 1 x 6 x 4 1/3 with Window and 4 Pin Holes
Parts: Panel
in Panels and not in one of the Technic categories?
Just curious because it doesn't look like a panel at all https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?pg=1&catString=91&catType=P.
Seems to me more a Connector.

See https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=258406&nID=1160384

Thanks, haven't seen that one. But none of the catmins joined that discussion
so here's my invitation to the catmins to have their say.

Without looking at our definitions, my first thought would be a Technic category.
But since we have definitions now, we need to use them to see if it helps to
categorize it properly. If they don't, then we need to either modify some
definitions or create new ones.
 Author: pitz8008 View Messages Posted By pitz8008
 Posted: Dec 9, 2020 09:55
 Subject: Re: Why is this part in Panels?
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Why is part
 
Part No: 49699 Name: Panel 1 x 6 x 4 1/3 with Window and 4 Pin Holes
* 		49699 Panel 1 x 6 x 4 1/3 with Window and 4 Pin Holes
Parts: Panel
in Panels and not in one of the Technic categories?
Just curious because it doesn't look like a panel at all https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?pg=1&catString=91&catType=P.
Seems to me more a Connector.

To me this part seems more technic than anything. But I know for certain I never
would have checked panels for it.