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| | | Author: | runner.caller  | | Posted: | Aug 19, 2020 13:25 | | Subject: | Watto Modified Head | | Viewed: | 201 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | | For: | Catalog Associate | | Status: | Open | |
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| I've noticed that both
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claim to use
but it appears that they are different.
The older version has yellow eyes with a more narrow vest opening while the newer
version appears to have orange eyes with a wider/more stretched vest opening
where the draw strings are located on the printing.
I don't have either one of them in stock or in hand, does anyone have both
versions in hand that they can confirm?
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Aug 19, 2020 13:30 | | Subject: | Re: Watto Modified Head | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| I think they look different too. But I don't have Watto.
In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
| | I've noticed that both
and
claim to use
but it appears that they are different.
The older version has yellow eyes with a more narrow vest opening while the newer
version appears to have orange eyes with a wider/more stretched vest opening
where the draw strings are located on the printing.
I don't have either one of them in stock or in hand, does anyone have both
versions in hand that they can confirm?
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| | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 19, 2020 14:38 | | Subject: | Re: Watto Modified Head | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| Nice catch. I am surprised that all of the diehard crazy Star Wars minifigure
collectors who freak out about every tiny little print variant never noticed
this. 
In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
| | I've noticed that both
and
claim to use
but it appears that they are different.
The older version has yellow eyes with a more narrow vest opening while the newer
version appears to have orange eyes with a wider/more stretched vest opening
where the draw strings are located on the printing.
I don't have either one of them in stock or in hand, does anyone have both
versions in hand that they can confirm?
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| | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Aug 19, 2020 15:53 | | Subject: | Re: Watto Modified Head | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | Nice catch. I am surprised that all of the diehard crazy Star Wars minifigure
collectors who freak out about every tiny little print variant never noticed this.
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There are more than a few discrepancies in BL’s SW cataloging, that your so
called “diehard crazy Star Wars collectors” simply don’t “freak out about” any
longer, here anyway. Call it learned behavior.
Don’t get me wrong, I think today’s cat team is the best and the catalog has
never looked better, but there’s still work to be done within the SW theme. Precisely
because you are right, Lego Star Wars collectors tend to be diehard, and will
find and concern themselves with print variations and production anomalies of
all verifiable types, from 1999 to date.
So speaking generally, how much production info are the current catalog decision
makers willing to include for the serious collectors, without confusing the casual
shopper?
-popsicle
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 19, 2020 16:03 | | Subject: | Re: Watto Modified Head | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | Nice catch. I am surprised that all of the diehard crazy Star Wars minifigure
collectors who freak out about every tiny little print variant never noticed this.
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There are more than a few discrepancies in BL’s SW cataloging, that your so
called “diehard crazy Star Wars collectors” simply don’t “freak out about” any
longer, here anyway. Call it learned behavior.
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You can't fix what you don't bring up.
| | Don’t get me wrong, I think today’s cat team is the best and the catalog has
never looked better, but there’s still work to be done within the SW theme. Precisely
because you are right, Lego Star Wars collectors tend to be diehard, and will
find and concern themselves with print variations and production anomalies of
all verifiable types, from 1999 to date.
So speaking generally, how much production info are the current catalog decision
makers willing to include for the serious collectors, without confusing the casual
shopper?
-popsicle
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I don't believe production anomalies should be cataloged. Production anomalies
are not intended, and There are anomalies all over the place and in all kinds
of themes. The Star Wars theme is not special in this regard and should not be
treated differently than any other theme. However, in this case, the Watto head
has multiple Element IDs attached to it, so it is quite obvious that the change
was intentional, was considered a different part by LEGO, and should be a different
part in the catalog. That is enough to get the Watto minifigures fixed.
Cheers,
Randy
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Aug 19, 2020 16:47 | | Subject: | Re: Watto Modified Head | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | Nice catch. I am surprised that all of the diehard crazy Star Wars minifigure
collectors who freak out about every tiny little print variant never noticed this.
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There are more than a few discrepancies in BL’s SW cataloging, that your so
called “diehard crazy Star Wars collectors” simply don’t “freak out about” any
longer, here anyway. Call it learned behavior.
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You can't fix what you don't bring up.
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You don't inspire others to help fix, if you refer to and view them as "crazies"
that "freak out" either. Maybe the one has to do with the other 
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| | Don’t get me wrong, I think today’s cat team is the best and the catalog has
never looked better, but there’s still work to be done within the SW theme. Precisely
because you are right, Lego Star Wars collectors tend to be diehard, and will
find and concern themselves with print variations and production anomalies of
all verifiable types, from 1999 to date.
So speaking generally, how much production info are the current catalog decision
makers willing to include for the serious collectors, without confusing the casual
shopper?
-popsicle
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I don't believe production anomalies should be cataloged. Production anomalies
are not intended
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Intended? I would say that there are unintended print variations throughout the
catalog, but intention is nearly impossible to verify, isn't it? Whether
considering them anomalies or variations. If it's an actual print variation
or intentional change in production, it's another part it would seem.
| | There are anomalies all over the place and in all kinds of themes.
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I don't think anyone has or would claim otherwise, Randy
| | The Star Wars theme is not special in this regard and should not be treated differently than any other theme.
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Again, obvious statements to most, save for your so called "diehard crazies"
I'm not interested in a back'n forth, Randy. Just thought I'd give
you the point of view of some of those serious Lego Star Wars collectors you've
characterized, and that I've deal with over the years.
I'm really not that concerned what is done with the catalog, these days.
But it's worth repeating to those that work so hard at it: the catalog has
never looked better!
-popsicle
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 19, 2020 20:48 | | Subject: | Re: Watto Modified Head | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | Nice catch. I am surprised that all of the diehard crazy Star Wars minifigure
collectors who freak out about every tiny little print variant never noticed this.
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There are more than a few discrepancies in BL’s SW cataloging, that your so
called “diehard crazy Star Wars collectors” simply don’t “freak out about” any
longer, here anyway. Call it learned behavior.
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You can't fix what you don't bring up.
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You don't inspire others to help fix, if you refer to and view them as "crazies"
that "freak out" either. Maybe the one has to do with the other
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You keep focusing on a part of my comment that was meant in jest. It was an attempt
at humor as an inside joke to Marek, because Marek is the one who inventoried
the second Watto minifigure, he is a Star Wars fanatic, and he is the one on
our admin team who deals with the Star Wars stuff and likes to make sure that
variations get their due. I don't know why you keep trying to spin it as
something that was meant in a negative light towards everyone out there.
Cheers,
Randy
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Aug 19, 2020 17:00 | | Subject: | Re: Watto Modified Head | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| | | In Catalog, randyf writes:
However, in this case, the Watto head
has multiple Element IDs attached to it, so it is quite obvious that the change
was intentional, was considered a different part by LEGO, and should be a different
part in the catalog. That is enough to get the Watto minifigures fixed.
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