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 Author: Hamster_Prod View Messages Posted By Hamster_Prod
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Hi,

This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?

For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)

As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.

So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?

I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!

Thanks in advance,
Josh
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
  Hi,

This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?

For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)

As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.

So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?

I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!

Thanks in advance,
Josh

No one decides but fate. When you are naming a new minifig, you use the next
number available.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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But to answer more fully, the numbers you see here are Bricklink's. I have
seen them used on eBay because Bricklink is the preeminent catalog. I assume
Brickowl has their own system, but perhaps they follow us.

In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
  Hi,

This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?

For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)

As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.

So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?

I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!

Thanks in advance,
Josh

No one decides but fate. When you are naming a new minifig, you use the next
number available.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
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In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
  Hi,

This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?

For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)

As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.

So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?

I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!

Thanks in advance,
Josh

See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168
on item numbers

and https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
on adding items to the catalog
 Author: Hamster_Prod View Messages Posted By Hamster_Prod
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In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
  Hi,

This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?

For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)

As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.

So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?

I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!

Thanks in advance,
Josh

See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168
on item numbers

and https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
on adding items to the catalog

Ah, thanks. That explains it. So it comes from the order in which folks on bricklink
added it to the catalogue. I guess for most categories it is basically the order
in which the figures were released.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
I guess for most categories it is basically the order
  in which the figures were released.

Roughly, yes.
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 Author: runner.caller View Messages Posted By runner.caller
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In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
  In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
  Hi,

This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?

For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)

As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.

So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?

I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!

Thanks in advance,
Josh

See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168
on item numbers

and https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
on adding items to the catalog

Ah, thanks. That explains it. So it comes from the order in which folks on bricklink
added it to the catalogue. I guess for most categories it is basically the order
in which the figures were released.

I think the catalogers try to follow the set number too. So for "lord of the
rings" the first set number in that theme
 
Set No: 9469  Name: Gandalf Arrives
* 
9469-1 (Inv) Gandalf Arrives
73 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2012
Sets: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Lord of the Rings
has the first two "lor" figure numbers
 
Minifig No: lor001  Name: Gandalf the Grey - Wizard / Witch Hat, Short Cheek Lines
* 
lor001 (Inv) Gandalf the Grey - Wizard / Witch Hat, Short Cheek Lines
Minifigures: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings
 
Minifig No: lor002  Name: Frodo Baggins - Sand Green Shirt
* 
lor002 (Inv) Frodo Baggins - Sand Green Shirt
Minifigures: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Lord of the Rings

and the next set
 
Set No: 9470  Name: Shelob Attacks
* 
9470-1 (Inv) Shelob Attacks
214 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2012
Sets: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Lord of the Rings
has the next three "lor" figure numbers.
 
Minifig No: lor003  Name: Frodo Baggins - Dark Bluish Gray Cape
* 
lor003 (Inv) Frodo Baggins - Dark Bluish Gray Cape
Minifigures: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Lord of the Rings
 
Minifig No: lor004  Name: Samwise Gamgee (Sam) - Dark Bluish Gray Cape
* 
lor004 (Inv) Samwise Gamgee (Sam) - Dark Bluish Gray Cape
Minifigures: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Lord of the Rings
 
Minifig No: lor005  Name: Gollum - Wide Eyes
* 
lor005 (Inv) Gollum - Wide Eyes
Minifigures: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Lord of the Rings

However, there are probably scenarios where the sets aren't cataloged in
the same order as their sequential set number, but I think this is a loose goal.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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In Catalog, runner.caller writes:

  I think the catalogers try to follow the set number too. So for "lord of the
rings" the first set number in that theme
 
Set No: 9469  Name: Gandalf Arrives
* 
9469-1 (Inv) Gandalf Arrives
73 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2012
Sets: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Lord of the Rings
has the first two "lor" figure numbers
 
Minifig No: lor001  Name: Gandalf the Grey - Wizard / Witch Hat, Short Cheek Lines
* 
lor001 (Inv) Gandalf the Grey - Wizard / Witch Hat, Short Cheek Lines
Minifigures: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings
 
Minifig No: lor002  Name: Frodo Baggins - Sand Green Shirt
* 
lor002 (Inv) Frodo Baggins - Sand Green Shirt
Minifigures: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Lord of the Rings

and the next set
 
Set No: 9470  Name: Shelob Attacks
* 
9470-1 (Inv) Shelob Attacks
214 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2012
Sets: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Lord of the Rings
has the next three "lor" figure numbers.
 
Minifig No: lor003  Name: Frodo Baggins - Dark Bluish Gray Cape
* 
lor003 (Inv) Frodo Baggins - Dark Bluish Gray Cape
Minifigures: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Lord of the Rings
 
Minifig No: lor004  Name: Samwise Gamgee (Sam) - Dark Bluish Gray Cape
* 
lor004 (Inv) Samwise Gamgee (Sam) - Dark Bluish Gray Cape
Minifigures: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Lord of the Rings
 
Minifig No: lor005  Name: Gollum - Wide Eyes
* 
lor005 (Inv) Gollum - Wide Eyes
Minifigures: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Lord of the Rings

However, there are probably scenarios where the sets aren't cataloged in
the same order as their sequential set number, but I think this is a loose goal.

Nope. That is just the order that the inventories for the sets were added to
the catalog. If the largest LotR set would have been inventoried first, it would
have had the minifigures with the first minifigure numbers in the theme. Like
someone said earlier, it is mostly up to fate (i.e. what minfigures get added
first to the catalog based on which sets are getting inventoried first).
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In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
  In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
  In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
  Hi,

This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?

For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)

As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.

So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?

I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!

Thanks in advance,
Josh

See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168
on item numbers

and https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
on adding items to the catalog

Ah, thanks. That explains it. So it comes from the order in which folks on bricklink
added it to the catalogue. I guess for most categories it is basically the order
in which the figures were released.

I think the catalogers try to follow the set number too. So for "lord of the
rings" the first set number in that theme
 
Set No: 9469  Name: Gandalf Arrives
* 
9469-1 (Inv) Gandalf Arrives
73 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2012
Sets: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Lord of the Rings
has the first two "lor" figure numbers
 
Minifig No: lor001  Name: Gandalf the Grey - Wizard / Witch Hat, Short Cheek Lines
* 
lor001 (Inv) Gandalf the Grey - Wizard / Witch Hat, Short Cheek Lines
Minifigures: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings
 
Minifig No: lor002  Name: Frodo Baggins - Sand Green Shirt
* 
lor002 (Inv) Frodo Baggins - Sand Green Shirt
Minifigures: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Lord of the Rings

and the next set
 
Set No: 9470  Name: Shelob Attacks
* 
9470-1 (Inv) Shelob Attacks
214 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2012
Sets: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Lord of the Rings
has the next three "lor" figure numbers.
 
Minifig No: lor003  Name: Frodo Baggins - Dark Bluish Gray Cape
* 
lor003 (Inv) Frodo Baggins - Dark Bluish Gray Cape
Minifigures: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Lord of the Rings
 
Minifig No: lor004  Name: Samwise Gamgee (Sam) - Dark Bluish Gray Cape
* 
lor004 (Inv) Samwise Gamgee (Sam) - Dark Bluish Gray Cape
Minifigures: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Lord of the Rings
 
Minifig No: lor005  Name: Gollum - Wide Eyes
* 
lor005 (Inv) Gollum - Wide Eyes
Minifigures: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Lord of the Rings

However, there are probably scenarios where the sets aren't cataloged in
the same order as their sequential set number, but I think this is a loose goal.

Interesting point, thanks! One of the things that threw me off is the Adventurers
line is catalogued in alphabetical order and completely ignores release date.
I guess this was all done in one go at some point after everything had already
been released.
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In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
  Hi,
where does the minifig item number come from?

I'll share something that very few are privy to, Josh: minifigure item numbers
are allocated by the almighty minifig-spirit...
 
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In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
  
I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories

My point with the attempted humor in my previous post, Josh, is not to take it
too seriously and you'll do fine.

-Cory
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In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
  
I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories

My point with the attempted humor in my previous post, Josh, is not to take it
too seriously and you'll do fine.

-Cory

I'm a scientist, it is my job to take things too seriously