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| | | Author: | robosushi  | | Posted: | Jan 2, 2019 15:46 | | Subject: | Add weight as a search parameter. | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| Could the weight of an item be added as one of the search options? It would
really speed up finding unusual parts if I could just plug in the weight and
bring it up.
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| | | | | Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Jan 2, 2019 16:27 | | Subject: | Re: Add weight as a search parameter. | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, robosushi writes:
| | Could the weight of an item be added as one of the search options? It would
really speed up finding unusual parts if I could just plug in the weight and
bring it up.
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If the item is big enough for it's weight to be unique, I would think that
typically the element ID is molded somewhere on there large enough to see and
read without too much effort and type in to easily find with the search bar.
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| | | | | | | Author: | robosushi | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2019 17:00 | | Subject: | Re: Add weight as a search parameter. | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, runner.caller writes:
| | In Suggestions, robosushi writes:
| | Could the weight of an item be added as one of the search options? It would
really speed up finding unusual parts if I could just plug in the weight and
bring it up.
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If the item is big enough for it's weight to be unique, I would think that
typically the element ID is molded somewhere on there large enough to see and
read without too much effort and type in to easily find with the search bar.
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With a 1/100th-gram scale, lego pieces have very unique weights. Sure a dozen
pieces might have the same weight but it's easy to spot the one your holding
in your hand by looking at the results. I've weighed many bricks and have
not seen variations based on color. Some of the really old bricks vary from mold
to mold. But I don't get to many of those anyways. Usually, a single brick
type will only vary a few hundredths of a gram.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2019 17:09 | | Subject: | Re: Add weight as a search parameter. | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, robosushi writes:
| | In Suggestions, runner.caller writes:
| | In Suggestions, robosushi writes:
| | Could the weight of an item be added as one of the search options? It would
really speed up finding unusual parts if I could just plug in the weight and
bring it up.
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If the item is big enough for it's weight to be unique, I would think that
typically the element ID is molded somewhere on there large enough to see and
read without too much effort and type in to easily find with the search bar.
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With a 1/100th-gram scale, lego pieces have very unique weights. Sure a dozen
pieces might have the same weight but it's easy to spot the one your holding
in your hand by looking at the results. I've weighed many bricks and have
not seen variations based on color. Some of the really old bricks vary from mold
to mold. But I don't get to many of those anyways. Usually, a single brick
type will only vary a few hundredths of a gram.
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But do the people entering the weights into the database have a 1/100th gram
scale?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | robosushi | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2019 10:54 | | Subject: | Re: Add weight as a search parameter. | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| If you only have a gram scale you simply weigh 100 of the brick and divide.
My point is that it would be a simple and useful search criteria.
In Suggestions, runner.caller writes:
| | In Suggestions, robosushi writes:
| | In Suggestions, runner.caller writes:
| | In Suggestions, robosushi writes:
| | Could the weight of an item be added as one of the search options? It would
really speed up finding unusual parts if I could just plug in the weight and
bring it up.
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If the item is big enough for it's weight to be unique, I would think that
typically the element ID is molded somewhere on there large enough to see and
read without too much effort and type in to easily find with the search bar.
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With a 1/100th-gram scale, lego pieces have very unique weights. Sure a dozen
pieces might have the same weight but it's easy to spot the one your holding
in your hand by looking at the results. I've weighed many bricks and have
not seen variations based on color. Some of the really old bricks vary from mold
to mold. But I don't get to many of those anyways. Usually, a single brick
type will only vary a few hundredths of a gram.
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But do the people entering the weights into the database have a 1/100th gram
scale?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2019 10:58 | | Subject: | Re: Add weight as a search parameter. | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, robosushi writes:
| | If you only have a gram scale you simply weigh 100 of the brick and divide.
My point is that it would be a simple and useful search criteria.
In Suggestions, runner.caller writes:
| | In Suggestions, robosushi writes:
| | In Suggestions, runner.caller writes:
| | In Suggestions, robosushi writes:
| | Could the weight of an item be added as one of the search options? It would
really speed up finding unusual parts if I could just plug in the weight and
bring it up.
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If the item is big enough for it's weight to be unique, I would think that
typically the element ID is molded somewhere on there large enough to see and
read without too much effort and type in to easily find with the search bar.
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With a 1/100th-gram scale, lego pieces have very unique weights. Sure a dozen
pieces might have the same weight but it's easy to spot the one your holding
in your hand by looking at the results. I've weighed many bricks and have
not seen variations based on color. Some of the really old bricks vary from mold
to mold. But I don't get to many of those anyways. Usually, a single brick
type will only vary a few hundredths of a gram.
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But do the people entering the weights into the database have a 1/100th gram
scale?
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Yeah, but everyone entering the weights might not have the same scale calibration
so you could throw a part on the scale and type the weight into the search, and
it might not come up in the results if your scale's single weight comes back
as different than someone weighing 100 and dividing.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2019 17:17 | | Subject: | Re: Add weight as a search parameter. | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, robosushi writes:
| | In Suggestions, runner.caller writes:
| | In Suggestions, robosushi writes:
| | Could the weight of an item be added as one of the search options? It would
really speed up finding unusual parts if I could just plug in the weight and
bring it up.
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If the item is big enough for it's weight to be unique, I would think that
typically the element ID is molded somewhere on there large enough to see and
read without too much effort and type in to easily find with the search bar.
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With a 1/100th-gram scale, lego pieces have very unique weights. Sure a dozen
pieces might have the same weight but it's easy to spot the one your holding
in your hand by looking at the results. I've weighed many bricks and have
not seen variations based on color.
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There are definitely variations based on color. Especially between parts made
in ABS and those made in PC using the same mold.
Cheers,
Randy
| | Some of the really old bricks vary from mold
to mold. But I don't get to many of those anyways. Usually, a single brick
type will only vary a few hundredths of a gram.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2019 11:16 | | Subject: | Re: Add weight as a search parameter. | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, robosushi writes:
| | In Suggestions, runner.caller writes:
| | In Suggestions, robosushi writes:
| | Could the weight of an item be added as one of the search options? It would
really speed up finding unusual parts if I could just plug in the weight and
bring it up.
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If the item is big enough for it's weight to be unique, I would think that
typically the element ID is molded somewhere on there large enough to see and
read without too much effort and type in to easily find with the search bar.
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With a 1/100th-gram scale, lego pieces have very unique weights. Sure a dozen
pieces might have the same weight but it's easy to spot the one your holding
in your hand by looking at the results. I've weighed many bricks and have
not seen variations based on color. Some of the really old bricks vary from mold
to mold. But I don't get to many of those anyways. Usually, a single brick
type will only vary a few hundredths of a gram.
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I've seen some variations on a decent scale if you take say 10 different
coloured 2x4 bricks. But then there is a similar variation if you weigh 10 of
the same colour ones. This is the problem when it is said that different colours
have different weights.
If you weigh 1 red brick and 1 blue brick, they might weigh a slightly different
amount, lets say red was heavier. That wouldn't mean all red bricks weigh
more than all blue bricks, for example. Just that the red one was taken from
the heavier end of the weight distribution and the blue from the lighter end.
So if you weigh 1000 red bricks and 1000 blue bricks, the difference between
the piles would not be 1000x(random red one - random blue one).
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | robosushi | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2019 12:22 | | Subject: | Re: Add weight as a search parameter. | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| All I suggest is that since the data parameter is already in the database, Why
not allow us to search using it? If it's off a bit who cares? It's
still better than nothing.
In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | In Suggestions, robosushi writes:
| | In Suggestions, runner.caller writes:
| | In Suggestions, robosushi writes:
| | Could the weight of an item be added as one of the search options? It would
really speed up finding unusual parts if I could just plug in the weight and
bring it up.
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If the item is big enough for it's weight to be unique, I would think that
typically the element ID is molded somewhere on there large enough to see and
read without too much effort and type in to easily find with the search bar.
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With a 1/100th-gram scale, lego pieces have very unique weights. Sure a dozen
pieces might have the same weight but it's easy to spot the one your holding
in your hand by looking at the results. I've weighed many bricks and have
not seen variations based on color. Some of the really old bricks vary from mold
to mold. But I don't get to many of those anyways. Usually, a single brick
type will only vary a few hundredths of a gram.
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I've seen some variations on a decent scale if you take say 10 different
coloured 2x4 bricks. But then there is a similar variation if you weigh 10 of
the same colour ones. This is the problem when it is said that different colours
have different weights.
If you weigh 1 red brick and 1 blue brick, they might weigh a slightly different
amount, lets say red was heavier. That wouldn't mean all red bricks weigh
more than all blue bricks, for example. Just that the red one was taken from
the heavier end of the weight distribution and the blue from the lighter end.
So if you weigh 1000 red bricks and 1000 blue bricks, the difference between
the piles would not be 1000x(random red one - random blue one).
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| | | | | Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2019 10:57 | | Subject: | Re: Add weight as a search parameter. | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, robosushi writes:
| | Could the weight of an item be added as one of the search options? It would
really speed up finding unusual parts if I could just plug in the weight and
bring it up.
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The idea is nice to have such an intelligent scale, but this is not feasible.
The weights of parts vary not only per mold variation, but also per color. And
for each weight (plus or minus a few percent) you would find thousands of parts.
However, there is something to say for the idea of using weight to discriminate
between parts:
During production of sets, TLC does use weighing to identify sets that may have
the improper number of parts in it. These are tossed out and supposedly checked
and corrected manually.
For bigger sets, LEGO carefully composes the contents of each of the numbered
bags, to minimize the number of possible mistakes and to maximize the efficiency
of the weighing test. Big and small parts are kept separate, small parts are
mixed with small parts so the relative accuracy is greater, but rarely with the
same part in another color. That is one of the reasons you may find a bag of
mixed small parts in a bag of bigger parts.
(Has anyone seen a bag in a bag in a bag? I can't remember having seen these)
Other reasons of this separation may be to be prevent damage, to distribute the
work load over multiple counting machines, to prevent tiles being caught up in
2x-bricks and so on.
Hans-Peter
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2019 12:09 | | Subject: | Re: Add weight as a search parameter. | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | (Has anyone seen a bag in a bag in a bag? I can't remember having seen these)
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I think a Friends set had a bag of four lipsticks (when only one was needed)
inside a bag of other small parts (in one of those holey type bags), inside a
normal bag.
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