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 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Nov 23, 2018 00:41
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 7745-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7745  Name: High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
* 
7745-1 (Inv) High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
695 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 1985
Sets: Train: 12V

* Add 3 Part 3070b White Tile 1 x 1 with Groove
* Change {3 to 2} Part Red 3070b Tile 1 x 1 with Groove

Comments from Submitter:
Photos will be submitted soon.
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Nov 23, 2018 02:59
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7745-1
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Store: Sezar's trains
In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7745  Name: High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
* 
7745-1 (Inv) High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
695 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 1985
Sets: Train: 12V

* Add 3 Part 3070b White Tile 1 x 1 with Groove
* Change {3 to 2} Part Red 3070b Tile 1 x 1 with Groove

Comments from Submitter:
Photos will be submitted soon.

Photos are courtesy of nkiss82 who has two MISB copies of this set. I submit
photos of one copy.

This copy comes with:

[p=bb12vb]
production date 17 5 (17th week in 1985)

(black)
 
Part No: 73090a  Name: Brick, Modified 2 x 6 x 2 Weight - Bottom Openings, Center Seam on Ends
* 
73090a Brick, Modified 2 x 6 x 2 Weight - Bottom Openings, Center Seam on Ends
Parts: Brick, Modified

black
 
Part No: 3003old  Name: Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
* 
3003old Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
Parts: Brick

light gray
 
Part No: 3001  Name: Brick 2 x 4
* 
3001 Brick 2 x 4
Parts: Brick

red
 
Part No: 3002old  Name: Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports
* 
3002old Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports
Parts: Brick

white
 
Part No: 3003old  Name: Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
* 
3003old Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
Parts: Brick

light gray
 
Part No: 4275  Name: Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
* 
4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Hinge

light gray
 
Part No: 4276  Name: Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
* 
4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Hinge

black
 
Part No: 4275  Name: Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
* 
4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Hinge

black
 
Part No: 4276  Name: Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
* 
4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Hinge

light gray
 
Part No: 4081b  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Light Attachment - Thick Ring
* 
4081b Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Light Attachment - Thick Ring
Parts: Plate, Modified

 
Part No: 765c28  Name: Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with 2 Leads, 28 Studs (22cm) Long with 4 Light Gray Electric, Connector, 1-Way Male Squared
* 
765c28 (Inv) Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with 2 Leads, 28 Studs (22cm) Long with 4 Light Gray Electric, Connector, 1-Way Male Squared
Parts: Electric, Wire & Connector

 
Part No: 117983a  Name: Paper Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail - 117983
* 
117983a Paper Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail - 117983
Parts: Paper
and
 
Part No: 3241c  Name: Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free
* 
3241c Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free
Parts: Train, Track

Conducting rails have contact holes with reinforcements (notches)
 














 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Nov 23, 2018 03:00
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7745-1
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Store: Sezar's trains
In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7745  Name: High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
* 
7745-1 (Inv) High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
695 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 1985
Sets: Train: 12V

* Add 3 Part 3070b White Tile 1 x 1 with Groove
* Change {3 to 2} Part Red 3070b Tile 1 x 1 with Groove

Comments from Submitter:
Photos will be submitted soon.

Photos are courtesy of nkiss82 who has two MISB copies of this set. I submit
photos of one copy.

This copy comes with:

[p=bb12vb]
production date 17 5 (17th week in 1985)

(black)
 
Part No: 73090a  Name: Brick, Modified 2 x 6 x 2 Weight - Bottom Openings, Center Seam on Ends
* 
73090a Brick, Modified 2 x 6 x 2 Weight - Bottom Openings, Center Seam on Ends
Parts: Brick, Modified

black
 
Part No: 3003old  Name: Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
* 
3003old Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
Parts: Brick

light gray
 
Part No: 3001  Name: Brick 2 x 4
* 
3001 Brick 2 x 4
Parts: Brick

red
 
Part No: 3002old  Name: Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports
* 
3002old Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports
Parts: Brick

white
 
Part No: 3003old  Name: Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
* 
3003old Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
Parts: Brick

light gray
 
Part No: 4275  Name: Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
* 
4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Hinge

light gray
 
Part No: 4276  Name: Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
* 
4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Hinge

black
 
Part No: 4275  Name: Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
* 
4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Hinge

black
 
Part No: 4276  Name: Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
* 
4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Hinge

light gray
 
Part No: 4081b  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Light Attachment - Thick Ring
* 
4081b Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Light Attachment - Thick Ring
Parts: Plate, Modified

 
Part No: 765c28  Name: Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with 2 Leads, 28 Studs (22cm) Long with 4 Light Gray Electric, Connector, 1-Way Male Squared
* 
765c28 (Inv) Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with 2 Leads, 28 Studs (22cm) Long with 4 Light Gray Electric, Connector, 1-Way Male Squared
Parts: Electric, Wire & Connector

 
Part No: 117983a  Name: Paper Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail - 117983
* 
117983a Paper Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail - 117983
Parts: Paper
and
 
Part No: 3241c  Name: Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free
* 
3241c Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free
Parts: Train, Track

Conducting rails have contact holes with reinforcements (notches)
 






 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Nov 23, 2018 08:17
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7745-1
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7745  Name: High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
* 
7745-1 (Inv) High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
695 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 1985
Sets: Train: 12V

* Add 3 Part 3070b White Tile 1 x 1 with Groove
* Change {3 to 2} Part Red 3070b Tile 1 x 1 with Groove

Interesting but are you sure that there isn't one more red tile hidden in
this bag?
Also interest me where are so many tiles used in this set. I see only one page
8 step 8 it is in the suitcase. So I assume the second one could be also put
inside to the second suitcase which is in the step, but in any other step these
tiles aren't showed use in build, there is no hint about white ones. But
there are 5 suitcases in this set 2 white and 3 brown (three more showed on page
16 of the instruction). So maybe they also should have tile putted inside. Then
it would make sens 5 suitcases and five tiles (2 red and 3 white), the same quantity
as quantity of suitcases. 2 white tiles for 2 red ones, 3 white tiles for 3 brown
ones
 
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Nov 23, 2018 19:37
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Location:  Canada, British Columbia
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Store: Sezar's trains
In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7745  Name: High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
* 
7745-1 (Inv) High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
695 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 1985
Sets: Train: 12V

* Add 3 Part 3070b White Tile 1 x 1 with Groove
* Change {3 to 2} Part Red 3070b Tile 1 x 1 with Groove

Interesting but are you sure that there isn't one more red tile hidden in
this bag?
Also interest me where are so many tiles used in this set. I see only one page
8 step 8 it is in the suitcase. So I assume the second one could be also put
inside to the second suitcase which is in the step, but in any other step these
tiles aren't showed use in build, there is no hint about white ones. But
there are 5 suitcases in this set 2 white and 3 brown (three more showed on page
16 of the instruction). So maybe they also should have tile putted inside. Then
it would make sens 5 suitcases and five tiles (2 red and 3 white), the same quantity
as quantity of suitcases. 2 white tiles for 2 red ones, 3 white tiles for 3 brown
ones

This is the equation applied to 7745, 7715 or 7824 (and others?):

the number of suitcase = [the total number of 1*1 tiles ] - [the number of 1*1
tiles applied in building the set such as train, building [excluding those shown
to be put in the suitcase) ]

Since in the three sets 7745, 7715, 7824, no 1*1 tile is used to build the train,
or station, the formula can get simplified:
the number of suitcase = [the total number of 1*1 tiles ]

See also the photos attached for 7715 and 7824:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=233953

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=239250

It is IMPLICIT that these tiles were assumed to be used inside the suitcase but
the instructions does not bother to show this for all suitcase; it shows this
for only one or two suitcases, so I think it is better to put this as "regular".

P.S. nkiss82 has two MISB copies of this set. The photos can not prove easily
that there are only two red tiles but he has checked. My friend in Belgium bought
another MISB 7745 and checked this and confirmed (he was the first to check this).
I bought his set but it is still in Belgium and will be shipped to me later.
That copy comes with bb12vc so it is from 1988 or 1989 or 1990. The first copy
of nkiss82 is from 1985 and his second one is from 1986.
Note: 7745 was released between 1985-90.
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Nov 24, 2018 04:15
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Feb 3, 2011 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store Closed Store: The Insect Store
In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7745  Name: High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
* 
7745-1 (Inv) High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
695 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 1985
Sets: Train: 12V

* Add 3 Part 3070b White Tile 1 x 1 with Groove
* Change {3 to 2} Part Red 3070b Tile 1 x 1 with Groove

Interesting but are you sure that there isn't one more red tile hidden in
this bag?
Also interest me where are so many tiles used in this set. I see only one page
8 step 8 it is in the suitcase. So I assume the second one could be also put
inside to the second suitcase which is in the step, but in any other step these
tiles aren't showed use in build, there is no hint about white ones. But
there are 5 suitcases in this set 2 white and 3 brown (three more showed on page
16 of the instruction). So maybe they also should have tile putted inside. Then
it would make sens 5 suitcases and five tiles (2 red and 3 white), the same quantity
as quantity of suitcases. 2 white tiles for 2 red ones, 3 white tiles for 3 brown
ones

This is the equation applied to 7745, 7715 or 7824 (and others?):

the number of suitcase = [the total number of 1*1 tiles ] - [the number of 1*1
tiles applied in building the set such as train, building [excluding those shown
to be put in the suitcase) ]

Since in the three sets 7745, 7715, 7824, no 1*1 tile is used to build the train,
or station, the formula can get simplified:
the number of suitcase = [the total number of 1*1 tiles ]

See also the photos attached for 7715 and 7824:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=233953

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=239250

It is IMPLICIT that these tiles were assumed to be used inside the suitcase but
the instructions does not bother to show this for all suitcase; it shows this
for only one or two suitcases, so I think it is better to put this as "regular".

P.S. nkiss82 has two MISB copies of this set. The photos can not prove easily
that there are only two red tiles but he has checked. My friend in Belgium bought
another MISB 7745 and checked this and confirmed (he was the first to check this).
I bought his set but it is still in Belgium and will be shipped to me later.
That copy comes with bb12vc so it is from 1988 or 1989 or 1990. The first copy
of nkiss82 is from 1985 and his second one is from 1986.
Note: 7745 was released between 1985-90.

I see this pattern now and I see it repeat in other similar sets. Change accepted.

(Also you showed sealed bag for this so no doubts, but I wanted to know why it
was done such way )