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 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Nov 18, 2018 14:50
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Gear pin073
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 Topic: Inventories Requests (Entry)
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StormChaser (568)

Location:  USA, Oklahoma
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Gear No: pin073  Name: Pin, Cross with Swiss Red Cross Tile - SRK / SSB 1979 Fund Raiser
* 
pin073 (Inv) Pin, Cross with Swiss Red Cross Tile - SRK / SSB 1979 Fund Raiser
Gear: Patch & Pin

* Add 1 Part bb185 White Plate, Modified 3 x 3 Cross with Thread Hole (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part (Not Applicable) bb185 Plate, Modified 3 x 3 Cross with Thread Hole {match ID 0 to 1}
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Nov 18, 2018 15:31
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Gear pin073
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randyf (442)

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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Gear No: pin073  Name: Pin, Cross with Swiss Red Cross Tile - SRK / SSB 1979 Fund Raiser
* 
pin073 (Inv) Pin, Cross with Swiss Red Cross Tile - SRK / SSB 1979 Fund Raiser
Gear: Patch & Pin

* Add 1 Part bb185 White Plate, Modified 3 x 3 Cross with Thread Hole (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part (Not Applicable) bb185 Plate, Modified 3 x 3 Cross with Thread Hole {match ID 0 to 1}

Unfortunately, I am going to have to reject this request as well as the other
one. The inventory as it stands is perfectly acceptable. It is set up the way
that any other part assembly would be identified: the main part has a variable
color, and the part that does not change is specified. The fact that the assembly
is listed as a gear seems irrelevant in this situation, and changing the inventory
in the way you suggest would unnecessarily complicate things and go against established
guidelines.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Nov 18, 2018 20:18
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Gear pin073
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  The inventory as it stands is perfectly acceptable.

I apologize that I did not explain my reasoning when I submitted the requests.
I didn't realize they would be contentious requests, but if I had realized
I would have provided further details. I'm not asking you to reconsider,
but I would like to explain why I submitted it.

  It is set up the way that any other part assembly would be identified: the main part has a variable color, and the part that does not change is specified.

This is true. However, the color is added to other parts inventoried this way
only when they appear in sets. This part does not appear in a set and never
will, so I felt like it deserveed an exception to the way other parts are handled
in inventories. Part bb185 will never have a color in the catalog unless we
help it along. The part comes in two specific solid colors, neither of which
are N/A.

I found it when looking here:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?v=3&pg=1&catLike=W&colorPart=0&sortBy=N&sortAsc=A&sz=50&itemBrand=1000&catType=P

Also on that list are a couple of other items in N/A colors which we spoke about
privately such as the 3001 brick. The fewer solid-color parts which appear on
that list, I would imagine, the better.

And it's not exactly out of the ordinary to specify all the colors in a part
assembly. This is done for many assemblies in the catalog:

 
Part No: TRex07  Name: Dinosaur Tyrannosaurus rex
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trex07 (Inv) Dinosaur Tyrannosaurus rex
Parts: Animal, Dinosaur
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Nov 18, 2018 21:46
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Gear pin073
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randyf (442)

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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  The inventory as it stands is perfectly acceptable.

I apologize that I did not explain my reasoning when I submitted the requests.
I didn't realize they would be contentious requests, but if I had realized
I would have provided further details.

I didn't and don't see them as being contentious. I was just following
the inventory guidelines that have been set up over the years.

  I'm not asking you to reconsider, but I would like to explain why I submitted it.

Sure thing!

  
  It is set up the way that any other part assembly would be identified: the main part has a variable color, and the part that does not change is specified.

This is true. However, the color is added to other parts inventoried this way
only when they appear in sets. This part does not appear in a set and never
will, so I felt like it deserveed an exception to the way other parts are handled
in inventories.

I don't like exceptions, and I have never liked them in the BrickLink catalog.
I still feel that this inventory follows the appropriate guidelines and does
not need to be changed.

  Part bb185 will never have a color in the catalog unless we help it along. The part comes in two specific solid colors, neither of which are N/A.

I am not worried about having (N/A) entries in the catalog. They really don't
bother me, and I am all for getting rid of them if the proper set-up of an inventory
following agreed-upon inventory guidelines gets rid of them naturally without
having to make rule exceptions. We were able to accomplish this with the 4x6
plates in the minifigure display cases, and that was a good thing. However, I
am not for making inventory exceptions that do not follow the guidelines just
to get rid of a stray (N/A) that happens to appear on a page.

  I found it when looking here:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?v=3&pg=1&catLike=W&colorPart=0&sortBy=N&sortAsc=A&sz=50&itemBrand=1000&catType=P

Also on that list are a couple of other items in N/A colors which we spoke about
privately such as the 3001 brick. The fewer solid-color parts which appear on
that list, I would imagine, the better.

Sure, but once again, I am only for removing entries from that list if the inventory
system naturally gets rid of them without making rule exceptions.

  And it's not exactly out of the ordinary to specify all the colors in a part
assembly. This is done for many assemblies in the catalog:

 
Part No: TRex07  Name: Dinosaur Tyrannosaurus rex
* 
trex07 (Inv) Dinosaur Tyrannosaurus rex
Parts: Animal, Dinosaur

I am actually really glad you brought this up as an example! I have never
agreed with this practice since I have been on BrickLink. These exceptions for
some of the complete assemblies have always bothered me, and I tried to have
them changed in the past with no luck. This is one area that I am going to try
to push back against the established guidelines to try and *remove* exceptions.
In fact, it is on my preliminary Inventories Roadmap.

Thanks for your comments, Robert.

Cheers,
Randy