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| | | Author: | bb393434  | | Posted: | Sep 26, 2018 16:15 | | Subject: | 2853 Technic Crankshaft | | Viewed: | 97 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| Not to sound like Jerry Seinfeld, but "what's the deal" with this part in
this color? Is it Yellow or Bright Light Orange? Every single set that we have
pulled this part out of has been BLO despite the fact that the BL cat identifies
it as Yellow. We have seen yellow examples from older models, this new part coming
out of 2014+ era sets is not the same shade. And yet there is no counterpart
(nor should there be, 100% of the sets are showing BLO). Out of over 128 pieces
we have obtained from MISB sets, not a single one is proper Yellow. This seems
to be a problem, as every time we inventory a set, we have to address this discrepancy.
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| | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 26, 2018 17:32 | | Subject: | Re: 2853 Technic Crankshaft | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Lifelong writes:
| | Not to sound like Jerry Seinfeld, but "what's the deal" with this part in
this color? Is it Yellow or Bright Light Orange? Every single set that we have
pulled this part out of has been BLO despite the fact that the BL cat identifies
it as Yellow. We have seen yellow examples from older models, this new part coming
out of 2014+ era sets is not the same shade. And yet there is no counterpart
(nor should there be, 100% of the sets are showing BLO). Out of over 128 pieces
we have obtained from MISB sets, not a single one is proper Yellow. This seems
to be a problem, as every time we inventory a set, we have to address this discrepancy.
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The color of those parts is not Bright Light Orange. They are a poorly dyed variation
of Yellow that approaches the color of Bright Light Orange. LEGO shows that this
part was always made in Yellow and not Bright Light Orange. The inventories here
should be corrected to make sure they are all listed as Yellow. Each seller can
then list that their supply of them is not the typical Yellow, but the darker
variation.
Randy
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| | | | | | | Author: | bb393434 | | Posted: | Sep 26, 2018 18:26 | | Subject: | Re: 2853 Technic Crankshaft | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, Lifelong writes:
| | Not to sound like Jerry Seinfeld, but "what's the deal" with this part in
this color? Is it Yellow or Bright Light Orange? Every single set that we have
pulled this part out of has been BLO despite the fact that the BL cat identifies
it as Yellow. We have seen yellow examples from older models, this new part coming
out of 2014+ era sets is not the same shade. And yet there is no counterpart
(nor should there be, 100% of the sets are showing BLO). Out of over 128 pieces
we have obtained from MISB sets, not a single one is proper Yellow. This seems
to be a problem, as every time we inventory a set, we have to address this discrepancy.
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The color of those parts is not Bright Light Orange. They are a poorly dyed variation
of Yellow that approaches the color of Bright Light Orange. LEGO shows that this
part was always made in Yellow and not Bright Light Orange. The inventories here
should be corrected to make sure they are all listed as Yellow. Each seller can
then list that their supply of them is not the typical Yellow, but the darker
variation.
Randy
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Since when does TLG's assessment of color factor in to the inventory status
on BrickLink? If that were the case DBG LBG and RB would not exist as colors.
I agree that what you're saying is the way it is, currently. What I do not
agree with is why. Why should every seller list their supply as not being typical
yellow, when that is the case 100% of the time (at least for 2014-2018 era sets
we have inventoried).
I made this post because I believe there should be a note on the part page to
address this. There are several sets which do supposedly include this part in
BLO, and so I would ask you, do those sets actually contain a part which is markedly
different than the Yellow ones we have pulled out of sets?
As an aside, there are far more frivolous notations (as the notations present
with part 3626b, for example). It is my belief that the c-admins are unaware
of this issue, so I am bringing it to their attention. I highly doubt the ideal
solution is what you say it is. This part is not yellow, period. And there are
a lot of variations with the color Yellow, true, but this is not one of them.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | samsam2 | | Posted: | Sep 26, 2018 19:26 | | Subject: | Re: 2853 Technic Crankshaft | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| Is the part exactly the color of other Bright Light Orange parts or is it neither
Yellow nor BLO, but closer to BLO than to Yellow?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | bb393434 | | Posted: | Sep 26, 2018 22:25 | | Subject: | Re: 2853 Technic Crankshaft | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, samsam2 writes:
| | Is the part exactly the color of other Bright Light Orange parts or is it neither
Yellow nor BLO, but closer to BLO than to Yellow?
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In my opinion it is neither color, certainly the 2853s seem to be between the
two (as previously mentioned, improperly dyed yellow). I have found one other
part so far that is similar, which are yellow technic axles. I think a note to
let shoppers know about the issue is necessary, since those looking to complete
older models will be in for a surprise.
Additionally, the 3 or so sets that have been inventoried with the part in BLO,
may be erroneous as whoever did that inventory may have interpreted the crankshaft
as being BLO when really it is neither yellow nor BLO. However it is the "soft"
matte plastic type, which tends to run a bit light in general, so I would be
more inclined to place it in the BLO category, and have listed it as such, until
I see evidence of a true BLO crankshaft.
But NONE of the 120+ crankshafts we have pulled are actually yellow, the only
yellow examples I have found were present in some early 1990s-era display models
we have collected.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Abels_Bricks | | Posted: | Sep 27, 2018 03:00 | | Subject: | Re: 2853 Technic Crankshaft | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Lifelong writes:
| | In Inventories, samsam2 writes:
| | Is the part exactly the color of other Bright Light Orange parts or is it neither
Yellow nor BLO, but closer to BLO than to Yellow?
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In my opinion it is neither color, certainly the 2853s seem to be between the
two (as previously mentioned, improperly dyed yellow). I have found one other
part so far that is similar, which are yellow technic axles. I think a note to
let shoppers know about the issue is necessary, since those looking to complete
older models will be in for a surprise.
Additionally, the 3 or so sets that have been inventoried with the part in BLO,
may be erroneous as whoever did that inventory may have interpreted the crankshaft
as being BLO when really it is neither yellow nor BLO. However it is the "soft"
matte plastic type, which tends to run a bit light in general, so I would be
more inclined to place it in the BLO category, and have listed it as such, until
I see evidence of a true BLO crankshaft.
But NONE of the 120+ crankshafts we have pulled are actually yellow, the only
yellow examples I have found were present in some early 1990s-era display models
we have collected.
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Thought I would check on these parts from a new set I have been parting out and
the colour difference is quite noticeable. I wonder if a new colour should be
set up for this as I agree that buyers purchasing for older sets are going to
be confused.
The crank arms do have more of a matt finish but are definitely darker than the
yellow as are the piston heads.
(the 1x4 plate is BLO)
regards
David
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Sep 27, 2018 04:17 | | Subject: | Re: 2853 Technic Crankshaft | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Lifelong writes:
| | I made this post because I believe there should be a note on the part page to
address this.
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After reading the responses to your original post and seeing the photo generously
supplied by Abels_Bricks, I agree. I have standardized all inventories to remove
bright light orange for this part and the piston head because they are clearly
not BLO. Those parts now only appear in inventories in yellow.
I have also requested that a catalog note be added to both parts mentioning the
color variation:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1108109
If at some point in the future a new color is added to the catalog to account
for these two parts, then we can go in and change all the necessary inventories.
For now, though, this seems like the most sensible solution.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | bb393434 | | Posted: | Sep 27, 2018 09:53 | | Subject: | Re: 2853 Technic Crankshaft | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
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After reading the responses to your original post and seeing the photo generously
supplied by Abels_Bricks, I agree. I have standardized all inventories to remove
bright light orange for this part and the piston head because they are clearly
not BLO. Those parts now only appear in inventories in yellow.
If at some point in the future a new color is added to the catalog to account
for these two parts, then we can go in and change all the necessary inventories.
For now, though, this seems like the most sensible solution.
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That's terrific, thanks!
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 27, 2018 11:45 | | Subject: | Re: 2853 Technic Crankshaft | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Lifelong writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, Lifelong writes:
| | Not to sound like Jerry Seinfeld, but "what's the deal" with this part in
this color? Is it Yellow or Bright Light Orange? Every single set that we have
pulled this part out of has been BLO despite the fact that the BL cat identifies
it as Yellow. We have seen yellow examples from older models, this new part coming
out of 2014+ era sets is not the same shade. And yet there is no counterpart
(nor should there be, 100% of the sets are showing BLO). Out of over 128 pieces
we have obtained from MISB sets, not a single one is proper Yellow. This seems
to be a problem, as every time we inventory a set, we have to address this discrepancy.
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The color of those parts is not Bright Light Orange. They are a poorly dyed variation
of Yellow that approaches the color of Bright Light Orange. LEGO shows that this
part was always made in Yellow and not Bright Light Orange. The inventories here
should be corrected to make sure they are all listed as Yellow. Each seller can
then list that their supply of them is not the typical Yellow, but the darker
variation.
Randy
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Since when does TLG's assessment of color factor in to the inventory status
on BrickLink? If that were the case DBG LBG and RB would not exist as colors.
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Umm, every time?  DBG, LBG, and RB (LEGO colors Dark Stone Grey, Medium Stone
Grey, and Reddish Brown respectively) are all considered different colors by
LEGO compared to their old counterparts (LEGO colors Dark Grey, Grey, and Earth
Orange). BrickLink also recognizes all of these six colors separately. I truly
don't understand what you are getting at here.
| | I agree that what you're saying is the way it is, currently. What I do not
agree with is why. Why should every seller list their supply as not being typical
yellow, when that is the case 100% of the time (at least for 2014-2018 era sets
we have inventoried).
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It was just a suggestion, since the case you describe is, in fact, *not* 100%
of the time.
| | I made this post because I believe there should be a note on the part page to
address this. There are several sets which do supposedly include this part in
BLO, and so I would ask you, do those sets actually contain a part which is markedly
different than the Yellow ones we have pulled out of sets?
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Your original post said nothing about adding a catalog note to the part. And
once again, the color is neither Bright Light Orange nor Yellow. Yes, it is markedly
different from Yellow, but a seller adding a note to their own supply of said
parts would have sufficed as a solution.
| | As an aside, there are far more frivolous notations (as the notations present
with part 3626b, for example). It is my belief that the c-admins are unaware
of this issue, so I am bringing it to their attention. I highly doubt the ideal
solution is what you say it is.
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Maybe not an ideal solution in your opinion, but a solution none-the-less. I
don't consider a catalog note any more ideal.
| | This part is not yellow, period. And there are a lot of variations with the color Yellow, true, but this is not one of them.
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Yes, this is one of them.
Randy
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