Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | jodawill  | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 12:17 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
| | When chat was active, I almost never went to the forum unless people in chat
didn't know.
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That's exactly why I prefer not having a chatroom. Good discussions just
become lost in a chatroom, even if they are archived. It's nice being able
to see the discussions I've missed.
Associating each user with their BrickLink ID is definitely important, though.
There may be some way to setup an IRC channel so that a moderator has to receive
a message from the BrickLink member to approve their IRC account, but that would
be an arduous task and would discourage new members from joining the chat.
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 11:58 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
| | | | no chat. I prefer the forum. I've never used the BL chat before, but large
IRC chatrooms are hard to follow, and you can't navigate messages in a chatroom.
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lol, way to weight your opinion as informative.
I didn't get to live in the 60's, but I prefer living now to living in
the 60's
hard to follow - that was kind of the point of chat, off the record spur of the
moment talk.
It made the FORUM easier to follow because there were a lot less posts there
and the posts there
There were a lot of people that were regulars in chat the hardly posted in the
forum, for the most part they were two different crowds
the ONLY downside was the security problems that arose from it (except for maybe
the mods that had to spend time in there to monitor things)
That was actually a plus, I think the strong mod presence in the chat room kept
the conversation positive and prevented a lot of member bashing that happens
in the forum.
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I've spent plenty of time in chatrooms before. I know what they're like.
I'm just saying my preference is the forum. I like to have the opportunity
to be a part of each discussion.
Anyway, I've always wondered why there isn't a separately hosted IRC
channel for BrickLink. There are a ton of different websites for hosting chatrooms.
I'm surprised there's not an unofficial one at least.
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 11:40 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
| | Well, I would say it's a bit of both.
Outside a few appearances at seller conventions (EU and maybe one in the US),
I have yet to see any personal touches from Jung-Ju Kim and certainly no passion.
The MOC shop was a business decision, not a passionate one.
Someone who spent any time on BL would have at least some input on what needs
to change. If he used Bricklink personally, it was to pop in, make a purchase
and pay for it and pop out just as quick
I didn't expect Chat to be returned because any 'business' benefits
are hard to measure. You don't know that person A helped person B decide
on something and made a sale, you only know they made a sale. You don't
know that problems were resolved and advice given.
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I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm actually glad there's
no chat. I prefer the forum. I've never used the BL chat before, but large
IRC chatrooms are hard to follow, and you can't navigate messages in a chatroom.
I agree that it seems the MOC shop was just a business decision. The dumb thing
is that it's probably done more harm than good. I would be surprised if they
haven't spent more money developing it than what they've earned from
it so far. I really don't see why they think there would be a lot of people
lining up to buy someone else's creation. Anyone who knows what a MOC is
is probably more interested in creating their own than following someone else's
instructions. If they wanted to target kids, they should have picked a better
name.
I have no idea who Jung-Ju Kim is. I've only seen two or three staff members
on the forum (unless inventory admins count), and none of them have seemed to
be in touch with the community.
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 11:21 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
| | In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | In Suggestions, studfinder writes:
| | In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | The chatroom has been gone for a really long time, but there are still broken
links on the site related to the chat.
Here's one example. I'm pretty sure there are several others. http://i.imgur.com/iMrMxST.png
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http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=751253
... from August 2013 - not even a reply from Admin back then, and no change since
then either, except the picture was changed. This is indicative that even simple
fixes are beyond their capability, and the suggestions forum is really ignored
(despite assurances otherwise).
Miles/..
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Such a simple change. That's pretty sad.
I wish the Jezek family had sold BrickLink to a community member. There are so
many people here who would be capable of operating this site.
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Slow down, cowboy......they did sell to a long standing BL community member.
Jung-Ju Kim has been a member for years.
Less posts, more research....
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Ok, I see that now. I guess I just always assumed it was just an outside company
because of the way things have been going.
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 10:49 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, studfinder writes:
| | In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | The chatroom has been gone for a really long time, but there are still broken
links on the site related to the chat.
Here's one example. I'm pretty sure there are several others. http://i.imgur.com/iMrMxST.png
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http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=751253
... from August 2013 - not even a reply from Admin back then, and no change since
then either, except the picture was changed. This is indicative that even simple
fixes are beyond their capability, and the suggestions forum is really ignored
(despite assurances otherwise).
Miles/..
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Such a simple change. That's pretty sad.
I wish the Jezek family had sold BrickLink to a community member. There are so
many people here who would be capable of operating this site.
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 10:33 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Royroy writes:
| | In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | The chatroom has been gone for a really long time, but there are still broken
links on the site related to the chat.
Here's one example. I'm pretty sure there are several others. http://i.imgur.com/iMrMxST.png
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under: "my activity"
Chat:
0:00 Visit Feature Minutes in Chat
0 Visit Feature Members on my Ignore List
0 Visit Feature Members are Ignoring Me
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http://imgur.com/a/KZORc
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 10:09 | | Subject: | Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 308 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| The chatroom has been gone for a really long time, but there are still broken
links on the site related to the chat.
Here's one example. I'm pretty sure there are several others. http://i.imgur.com/iMrMxST.png
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 13:01 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Off Topic, petertje_lego writes:
| | In Off Topic, jodawill writes:
| | In Off Topic, petertje_lego writes:
| | In Off Topic, jodawill writes:
| | In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
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You require every lot to be at least a dollar, but you have lots that don't
add up to a dollar.
Personally, I avoid stores with lot limits. Even if my order meets their requirements,
I don't want to waste my time figuring out how to make the numbers work out.
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not really, the average price of a lot has to be $1.-
buy 1 lot, pay $1.-
buy 2 lots, pay $2.-
in this it doesn't matter if 1 lot is $0.05 and the other is $1.95
it's still 2 lost for $2.-
and so on...
not that hard
Cheers,
Peter
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That's probably what they meant, but that's not what their terms say.
It says "at least $1 per item lot."
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true, but their terms also say:"That means a 10 lot order needs to be 10.00."
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That still doesn't imply an average
Sorry, as mathematician, I have a tendency to be overly pedantic. 
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 12:47 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Off Topic, petertje_lego writes:
| | In Off Topic, jodawill writes:
| | In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
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You require every lot to be at least a dollar, but you have lots that don't
add up to a dollar.
Personally, I avoid stores with lot limits. Even if my order meets their requirements,
I don't want to waste my time figuring out how to make the numbers work out.
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not really, the average price of a lot has to be $1.-
buy 1 lot, pay $1.-
buy 2 lots, pay $2.-
in this it doesn't matter if 1 lot is $0.05 and the other is $1.95
it's still 2 lost for $2.-
and so on...
not that hard
Cheers,
Peter
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That's probably what they meant, but that's not what their terms say.
It says "at least $1 per item lot."
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 12:45 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Off Topic, jval writes:
| | In Off Topic, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
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I hate finding shops with parts I want but with lot limits (or other unfriendly
policies that scream "Please don't waste my time buying bricks from me!")
So if the lot limits were somehow coded into the shop policies in a way that
buyers could eliminate them from search results, want list notifications, etc.
that would be great.
Sellers who want to impose lot limits would have what they want, and buyers would
have a way to avoid them. Win-win.
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Instead of lot limitation a seller could place a bulk qty in his lots. Saves
time from buyer to make.. lengthy calculations
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That's what I've done in some situations. I don't want to count out
a certain number of jewels for any order. It's a waste of time. So I put
them in bags of 50 and only allow people to order 50 at a time.
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 12:44 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Off Topic, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
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I hate finding shops with parts I want but with lot limits (or other unfriendly
policies that scream "Please don't waste my time buying bricks from me!")
So if the lot limits were somehow coded into the shop policies in a way that
buyers could eliminate them from search results, want list notifications, etc.
that would be great.
Sellers who want to impose lot limits would have what they want, and buyers would
have a way to avoid them. Win-win.
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Just a few weeks ago, I was about to order from someone with a lot limit; it
may have been The Lonely Brick Ohio, but I can't remember for sure. I often
forget to check the store terms before filling my cart. I spent a lot of time
going through everything they have. Then right before I submitted the order,
I saw the lot limit and emptied my cart. I was just a few cents under the lot
limit, but I had so many items in my cart, it would have taken several more dollars
to bump my average up that high.
If lot limits are to be allowed at all, I do like the idea of being able to block
sellers with lot limits.
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 12:21 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
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You require every lot to be at least a dollar, but you have lots that don't
add up to a dollar.
Personally, I avoid stores with lot limits. Even if my order meets their requirements,
I don't want to waste my time figuring out how to make the numbers work out.
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2015 01:01 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 2022-1 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, peter_heyden writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 31005pb05 Red Primo Brick, Round Rattle 1 x 1 with Ladybug Pattern
* Change 1 Gear Yellow pri057 Primo Storage Elephant {match ID 0 to 1}
Comments from Submitter:
The rattle brick isn't included in this set. The elephants nose seems to have one, but that's a similar brick without the rattle, with with a rope to pull the elephant.
The elephant comes with and without bow tie. I just entered a new item (gear) for the elephant with bow tie. However I can add the item only after it is approved. I'll do that right after approval.
Please consider the lid and elephant to be catalogued as parts in stead of gears. Other Primo elements (e.g. some storage form lids) are listed as parts. In that case, it would be possible to add an assembly for the elephant plus lid, as a "Ride on elephant".
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Here's an image of the elephant without the bow tie from the 1998 Dutch catalog,
showing the pull string and the detachable wheels:
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I love Primo.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/109285352@N02/13404864505/in/set-72157642904645254
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 8, 2015 00:51 | | Subject: | Re: Could we get rid of this? | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | "79 messages in this Thread. blah blah blah"
Could we have an option to stop collapsing the message tree? It's a great
annoyance while trying to read through a large thread.
I'm guessing the only reason it does this is because when the site was written
billions of years ago, web browsers couldn't handle large pages very well.
Now that they can, it would be nice to see the entire message tree without the
extra click.
Thanks,
- Josh
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http://www.bricklink.com/messageFilter.asp
Uncheck the box marked "Supress message tree when there are more than 50 messages
in thread"
(And, read the forum when you're logged in, so that your preferences are
applied.)
--
Marc.
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Wow. I can't believe I've never seen this before. You rock!
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 8, 2015 00:39 | | Subject: | Could we get rid of this? | | Viewed: | 306 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Already Exists | |
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| "79 messages in this Thread. blah blah blah"
Could we have an option to stop collapsing the message tree? It's a great
annoyance while trying to read through a large thread.
I'm guessing the only reason it does this is because when the site was written
billions of years ago, web browsers couldn't handle large pages very well.
Now that they can, it would be nice to see the entire message tree without the
extra click.
Thanks,
- Josh
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2015 22:05 | | Subject: | Re: Andrew! Punctuation please! | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, blackballoon writes:
| | In Suggestions, BrickBuy writes:
| | In Suggestions, pikachu3 writes:
| | In Suggestions, Kenopolis writes:
"removeal"
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"your"
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"Items(s)"
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Items(s), precious!
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2015 13:00 | | Subject: | Re: Integrate age verification software into BL | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Spiritparticles writes:
| | In Suggestions, Hardstone writes:
| | Bricklink would really benefit from having some sort of age verification software
integrated into it. Despite the minimum age to join being 18, it seems like a
lot of underage buyers keep managing to sign up. I am not going to name names,
but there is at least one recent buyer who admitted in the forums that he or
she is 16.
Can't BL staff add some sort of age verification element to the registration
process?
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I don't think age verification is a good thing. When I run into Verisign
I usually stop and don't complete registration, so it may be a bigger deterrent
to new buyers.
I received a quote from the above mentioned user. I explained I only accept Paypal,
and suspected he was underage when he begged me to let him send cash, so I cancelled
the quote and blocked him after some thought. But on the other hand he could
get burned by someone who he sends cash. So, the decision to block him wasn't
made lightly.
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When I was 13, I mail ordered a CD my mom wouldn't let me buy, and I sent
cash. Unfortunately, she opened the mail before I did, and while the CD I
bought wasn't vulgar, the catalog they sent with it was filled with adult
material on other punk album covers and so on. She sent it back.
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2015 12:35 | | Subject: | Re: Integrate age verification software into BL | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Kaye writes:
| | In Suggestions, technic.lego writes:
| | In Suggestions, Hardstone writes:
| | Bricklink would really benefit from having some sort of age verification software
integrated into it. Despite the minimum age to join being 18, it seems like a
lot of underage buyers keep managing to sign up. I am not going to name names,
but there is at least one recent buyer who admitted in the forums that he or
she is 16.
Can't BL staff add some sort of age verification element to the registration
process?
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You can join the military at sixteen & a half but you can't register at BrickLink
until you're eighteen. At seventeen anyone can participate in a live-fire
training exercise but not even chat online about Lego at BrickLink. In some states
of the US you can own a firearm at the age of fourteen. Making mistakes is how
we learn & being over eighteen does not exclude you from lying, cheating &/or
stealing.
Sixteen is reasonable & should be the new minimum. But yes, register with a linked/verified
PayPal account or credit/savings card linked to a bank account but for all
members, not just younger users! Failing to verify an account should still allow
a user even at a younger age to take part in discussions & communicate like any
other human being. I'm sure not all problems caused to sellers are from underage
members. Being a young person where a site selling a product that is specifically
targeted towards a market even younger than yourself but then being excluded
from taking an interest or participating in expanding your knowledge in because
you're deemed too young is as rude as hell.
This age group is often excluded from most things & this is the age that our
youth is most vulnerable to outside influences. Let us include them & encourage
their interests instead of alienating & disillusioning them into participating
in more underground/antisocial activities.
Welcome to 2015. We are the human race.
I'm only saying. I'm not trying to incite rage, hatred, be offensive
or stir the pot in any way & not having a selling history how could I possibly
know anything about anything.
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In the spirit of a moderate response (following your lead), there are two main
reasons put forth by the admins for the 18+ rule.
1) Buying and selling requires a contract, and in most jurisdictions, that requires
the age of 18 to make it valid. They have to draw the line somewhere...
2) While vulgarity and abuse is not allowed at any time, the 18+ rules allow
the members to not have to tiptoe around the younger ears, as sometimes there
is adult stuff discussed on the forums. Not that that has kept all immaturity
from the forum discussions...
One can also browse the site and learn from the community without ever becoming
a member. This does not require a login to view the catalog, or to read the forums.
The admins had to set the standard somewhere, and they viewed the current state
of things to be the best balanced approach.
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I don't remember ever seeing adult discussions here. Does that really happen?
(I'm not arguing with your points at all. I agree. I'm just curious.)
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2015 01:23 | | Subject: | Re: Integrate age verification software into BL | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Hardstone writes:
| | Bricklink would really benefit from having some sort of age verification software
integrated into it. Despite the minimum age to join being 18, it seems like a
lot of underage buyers keep managing to sign up. I am not going to name names,
but there is at least one recent buyer who admitted in the forums that he or
she is 16.
Can't BL staff add some sort of age verification element to the registration
process?
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That would be nice, but I don't know if there's a practical way to do
that. If I remember correctly, I don't think it asks for your age when you
register, so maybe they could at least do that if they don't already, although
people will just lie.
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2015 00:02 | | Subject: | Re: reporting forum posts | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, renhoffman writes:
| | I was playing around with the reporting feature today, and I think it needs some
tweaking. Kind of hard to do for me, as logging out causes the system to require
me to log-in in order to report something, but I wanted to see how the general
public sees things. I did notice a lot of things have slipped by without being
reported, and took care of them. Anyway, I was able to determine that there doesn't
seem to be an easy way to report forum TOS violations. Perhaps a link for reporting
spam, flooding, swearing, etc. could be added to each message. Then, when a user
clicks on the link, they would click on a violation, add a comment if needed,
and the report message is sent to us as it is now, with an automatic link to
the message.
Please forgive me if that already exists, as I can't see it.
Darren
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Is this what you're looking for? http://www.bricklink.com/problemMessage.asp
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Dec 18, 2014 09:29 | | Subject: | Re: A simple sugestion | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
| | In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | In Suggestions, jamesuniverse writes:
Voted yes.
When the new team took over, I think everyone here only wanted to see improvements
to the search and wanted list. We've seen neither of those. Instead, we've
seen tons of MOC Shop spam and now they're taking advantage of Lego's
abandoned Cuusoo name to sell more MOC Shop items, which I think is a disgusting
move, even if it is legal.
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Cuusoo was never Lego's name. They contracted Cuusoo to help fan-source new
ideas. Lego then ended their agreement / partnership with them when they realised
it was a good idea. Cuusoo are allowed to continue operating as a company, partnering
with whoever they like.
So long as Bricklink don't call it "Lego Cuusoo", then they are safe on the
legal side.
I'm not a fan of it, just as I'm not a fan of the MOC shop. But Cuusoo
shouldn't suffer just because lego no longer want to work with them.
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"Cuusoo" is printed on the Lego boxes. The average person probably doesn't
know that Cuusoo is another company. It just seems like BL is trying to cash
in on Lego Cuusoo's reputation. I don't see any other explanation for
it because it seems pointless since the MOC Shop already exists.
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Dec 18, 2014 09:20 | | Subject: | Re: A simple sugestion | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, jamesuniverse writes:
How about this suggestion: Sell BrickLink to someone who actually cares about
the AFOL community. There are plenty of software engineers around here. Someone
like Steve Hassenplug would do a really great job updating the site without enraging
the entire community that supports it.
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Dec 18, 2014 09:15 | | Subject: | Re: A simple sugestion | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, jamesuniverse writes:
Voted yes.
When the new team took over, I think everyone here only wanted to see improvements
to the search and wanted list. We've seen neither of those. Instead, we've
seen tons of MOC Shop spam and now they're taking advantage of Lego's
abandoned Cuusoo name to sell more MOC Shop items, which I think is a disgusting
move, even if it is legal.
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2014 09:52 | | Subject: | Allow items to be tagged in mult. categories | | Viewed: | 90 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=875000
In Catalog, cosmicray writes:
| | The real issue here is not what category this part/design should be placed under.
The real issue is the hierarchical design of the catalog that forces all parts
to live in only one category. Some pieces (such as this one) really do need to
exist in more than one category.
The alternative to having n categories, is to do away with categories entirely,
and instead provide tags for each part. This part would likely have tags for
tree, palm, and bar. I'm not trying to redesign the world, but pointing out
that the existing design has shortcomings (which is really the entire point of
this thread).
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2014 00:18 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 42027-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw (Alternate)
Comments from Submitter:
15457 was quickly discontinued due to quality issues
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2014 00:17 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 42026-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw (Alternate)
Comments from Submitter:
15457 was quickly discontinued due to quality issues
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Aug 30, 2014 02:22 | | Subject: | Re: Allow Brickset to Link to Part List & Sellers | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Still no response from Bricklink?
In Suggestions, Miro78 writes:
| | In Suggestions, Huw writes:
| | In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, goshe7 writes:
| | I don't really have a strong preference about the catalog. I've uploaded a minimal
amount of info to it and don't really care how it gets used/abused. I'm just
trying to explain some of the rationale I have seen in these discussions previously.
If I wanted to champion the release of BrickLink catalog data, I'd start the
argument with BrickStore. That is oddly omitted from many of these discussions.
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The catalog is, and has always been, freely downloadable:
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogDownload.asp
All of it.
With no restrictions placed on it.
By design.
Dan was always more community oriented than commercially oriented and believed
in freely sharing information to foster the community. Yes this may lead to
some use that we do not like, but that was the tradeoff for for the positives.
Brickstore would be one of the positives. It gives users the ability to do things
that Dan either could not or would not support on BrickLink. It was a winning
situation for everyone. Dan didn't have to provide features that only a small
subset of users wanted/needed. Members still got the features they wanted.
The author of BrickStore was able to make some money to defray the cost of producing
the software. The only negative is that the software is no longer being developed.
But in true community spirit, it is open source, so people can continue the
development on their own.
I believe that Brickset would also be a positive for all involved, depending
on how it is implemented. I believe that Brickset has a wider reach than Bricklink
in that it reaches people outside the core AFOL market. As such, it could only
drive more traffic to BrickLink, which makes BL more money and makes BrickLink
sellers more money. The only issue to be resolved would be how to compensate
Brickset for sending the traffic.
Any agreement between the two sites could stipulate that the inventory and parts
catalog information could only be used to link back to BrickLink and not to other
competing sites. Brickset maintains its own catalog of set information so it
would remain free to continue to link set info to eBay and Amazon. There is
also potential for information to travel in the other direction as well. BrickLink
could use set reviews.
Troy
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I am encouraged by the generally positive nature of the discussion this time,
and thank you to everyone who's putting the case forward for allowing it.
I understand the concern about Brickset promoting eBay and Amazon, your main
competitors, but I'm pleased to see that many of you recognise that it would
be better for you if it were to promote eBay, Amazon AND BrickLink.
To clarify a few points:
- If Brickset were to display set inventories, they would not appear on any page
that also showed eBay or Amazon links at the same time.
- Links on image/part numbers would lead directly to the appropriate place on
BrickLink (whatever you stipulate that to be, the catalogue or for sale list,
perhaps)
- Currently, Brickset does not promote eBay or Amazon when viewing minifigs and
that would be the case for parts. Data provided by BrickLink would NOT be used
to promote anything other than BrickLink and would not be made available to 3rd
parties.
- There would be no stress placed on the BrickLink system by retreiving the inventories,
as it would be a one-off exercise when one was first requested by a user, possibly
refreshed every couple of months.
- There would potentially be an increase in requests for images from the BL server,
but arguably no more than if someone viewed the inventory after clicking on a
link to view it at BrickLink. In most cases users' browsers would cache these
anyway so any increase would be negligible.
My motivations for wanting to do this have been questioned in the past, often
with suspicion. Of course I want to do it to make Brickset a better website which
provides its users with more information. But, in doing so I believe it can make
for a more joined-up community which will benefit BrickLink as much as it does
Brickset. As someone pointed out earlier, Brickset's demographic is very different
from BrickLink's and many of its users do not even know BrickLink exists, or
are suspicious of it. There are several discussions in the forum where this has
been raised.
Finally, I have a working prototype showing how I would like to integrate BrickLink
inventories into Brickset and I can make it available for testing to anyone that's
interested. Drop me an email (huw@brickset.com) with your Brickset username.
(I wrote all the code to do so a few years ago but have never made it publicly
available)
Thank you for reading this. I welcome your comments. I would also welcome knowing
who ultimately can make a decision to allow this.
Huw
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It has been 19 months since any more posts were done on this topic. Ownership
has changed hands on Bricklink and I am curious to know if the stance has changed
at all. I am not familiar with the history between Brickset and Bricklink, but
I think this would help both parties. Afterall, BrickOwl is already on both Brickset
and Rebrickable. Times are changing, what is Bricklink's stance now?
Miro
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