Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | yorbrick  | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 14:12 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | But what happens when more sets come along that use this sleeve? They need to
be added to the part description. Why not just call it "Cardboard Sleeve 4580966"
removing the set names?
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Thank you for this suggestion. We were trying to come up with a way to not have
to repeat information in the names, but I think this idea is the easiest solution.
We will have to come up with another way to track what sets these come in in
the meantime. I am guessing the additional notes for the sleeves will probably
be the way to go.
Cheers,
Randy
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If the actual parts in the sleeve are listed in the inventory and the (sealed)
sleeves are listed as an alternate for each of the sets they are in, won't
that information already be stored in the catalogue in a meaningful way? Then
someone can look up the number on the sleeve and search for it. It won't
be in any sets as a regular part but will be listed as an alternate for all the
sets it appears in. That way, the set numbers need not be kept in the title or
as additional notes.
Or have I totally misunderstood how alternates work?
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 13:15 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| | | Because our partout system is not yet capable of handling subparts, we're
probably not going to be able to add these sleeves to the regular section of
inventories. Maybe if we change the image and description we can do it, but right
now sellers will end up listing things in their store that buyers cannot identify.
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Too late, you are already doing it!
| | Please have patience as we make some adjustments.
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Why not get the partout system for sellers and buyers to handle it correctly,
then make the changes. As it is, anyone parting out a set with these sleeves
in needs to manually delete each sleeve from the part out, then go back and part
out any sleeves or similar.
Although from the comment above, I assume you don't know that these are already
being added as sleeves rather than as the component parts. If the sleeves are
added but not as regular parts, and the parts are still in the regular section,
then it is fine and easy to ignore. But that isn't the case.
Also parting out as a part doesn't work quite right. You have to select a
colour for the part to be able to part it out, even if you have already selected
Not Applicable as the colour on the part's page before parting out. So this
adds yet another click to the parting out a sleeve process.
Although shouldn't the colour of most of these sleeves be white rather than
not applicable? After all, they are white!
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 08:16 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| | | Wow! Just seeing that cardboard cape boxes have been added to the catalog.
I usually would prefer to refrain from making a derogatory comment on something
so trivial, but I have to say, that is a new kind of stupid. Give me a break.
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It is truly bizarre. There is this sleeve, for example:
which contains two minifigure capes. However, this sleeve which is called "Cardboard
Sleeve for Set 70837" doesn't actually appear in set 70837 since it contains
minifigure parts, which are listed with the minifigures. So we now have an entry
for a part that is not included in any sets and so is unlikely to ever be listed
in that way.
Then we have the same where the sleeves contain a single cape, for example:
Again it doesn't belong to any sets despite the name, since it belongs to
a minifigure.
It seems to be a case of making a rule then insisting on sticking to it for all
parts and sets, no matter how stupid the application of the rule is.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 07:51 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| | | Is there any demand to purchase open, empty cardboard sleeves?
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I don't think you can buy the empty sleeve because as soon as you open it,
you have the parts inside but the sleeve itself is not in the inventory of the
sleeve. Just as a sprue contains parts on it but not the sprue itself, a sleeve
does not contain the sleeve once opened. There is no listing for the sleeve only,
only a full (unopened) sleeve.
However, I guess some sellers will open the sleeves to check the parts inside
and sell them as new with "opened" in the comments. Although I imagine the parts
will sell better than the parts in the sleeve*. It would also be possible to
list the sleeve with comments saying "no parts inside, just the sleeve" if someone
really wanted to sell just the sleeve.
* This is where there might be a problem for wants lists. I imagine most people
putting a set together want the parts, not the parts in the sleeves. However,
parting the set out to a wants list (or parting out when selling) defaults to
the user wanting the parts in a sleeve and so they may well miss sellers that
have the parts that they want as they don't have them in the sleeve. It is
the problem of having multiple entries for the same part (or parts) just differing
in whether they are in some sort of useless packaging.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 05:59 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| This will also screw about with the price guide and wants lists, with decisions
about how to sell the part in the sleeve.
Do you sell a single part in a cardboard sleeve or do you sell it as the part?
These are two different entries with two different price guides.
It is like sets that contain a single part or minifigure - just introducing more
difficulty for users to sell / find what they want.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 05:39 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| Also it seems parting out sets is now broken. Will there be an option added (like
break sets in set) to break parts in sleeves / multipacks? Selecting break sets
in set does not open up the multipacks or sleeves.
Try parting out a set, and the only option seems to be to list the sleeve, not
is what is actually in the sleeve. To list the parts you now need to do that
manually.
This is a really bad decision, Bricklink! BL should make things easier for sellers
to sell parts, not make it increasingly difficult.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 05:34 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Turez writes:
There is also an issue with the naming. For example:
is currently called "Cardboard Sleeve for Sets 60051, 60052". It has exactly
the same name as
But what happens when more sets come along that use this sleeve? They need to
be added to the part description. Why not just call it "Cardboard Sleeve 4580966"
removing the set names?
already has five set numbers in the name, what will the limit be? If it appears
in 100 sets, will they all be named in the description?
And isn't a natural extension of this to catalogue, for example, bag 1 from
set XXXX, bag 2 from set XXXX, and so on (where these bags do not contain any
minifigure parts)? After all, that is how LEGO supplies them in a set. They are
not individual parts in a box, they are multiple parts in a defined bag in a
box. How big does a bag have to be before it is no longer a multipack? So when
a set contains a small bag of 1x1 parts in a larger bag, is that now considered
a multipack or is it the parts in a bag?
And what about instructions when they are supplied with a sticker sheet inside
a polythene bag and a piece of card? Is that a cardboard sleeve / multipack or
just the instructions and a sticker sheet?
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 11, 2019 17:15 | | Subject: | Re: Elements Exclusive to BaM | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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Is it possible that in German or USA LEGO Brand stores it is sell with glove?
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Also it would not surprise me if some torsos are sold without glove, and so it
would be good to have the gloveless entry, as otherwise some sellers might have
to sell them as missing a glove when in reality it isn't.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 11, 2019 17:12 | | Subject: | Re: Elements Exclusive to BaM | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, constructibles writes:
| | Just to add to the never-ending "identify this part" questions, it's now
been semi-officially confirmed that LEGO has created exclusive elements for the
BaM (Build a Minifgure) bins in LBR stores. I'm sure this will give more
people headaches for authenticating parts, since they will not appear in any
inventories. Looks interesting though, and I hope they keep introducing new
elements.
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From month ago 
https://www.promobricks.de/lego-store-neuheiten-minifigur-station/83292
Some of them are alrady in the catalog
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That one isn't in the BAM. The BAM versions I have seen all come in a gloveless
form and the buyer adds the glove to it.
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Is it possible that in German or USA LEGO Brand stores it is sell with glove?
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I assume the boxes they come in are the same. All the ones I have seen in the
UK have been without glove. Of course, staff or other customers could add the
gloves then leave the assembly.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 11, 2019 17:03 | | Subject: | Re: Elements Exclusive to BaM | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, constructibles writes:
| | Just to add to the never-ending "identify this part" questions, it's now
been semi-officially confirmed that LEGO has created exclusive elements for the
BaM (Build a Minifgure) bins in LBR stores. I'm sure this will give more
people headaches for authenticating parts, since they will not appear in any
inventories. Looks interesting though, and I hope they keep introducing new
elements.
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From month ago
https://www.promobricks.de/lego-store-neuheiten-minifigur-station/83292
Some of them are alrady in the catalog
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That one isn't in the BAM. The BAM versions I have seen all come in a gloveless
form and the buyer adds the glove to it.
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