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 Author: BLUSER_210488 View Messages Posted By BLUSER_210488
 Posted: Mar 2, 2012 08:23
 Subject: Re: Add to NRS/NSS Undisclosed fees
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 Topic: Suggestions
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BLUSER_210488 (966)

Location:  Canada, Ontario
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In Suggestions, Master_Jedi_Rob writes:

  The devil is in the details.

That considered, I should not hold back til everything is perfect to get on board.
I'll miss the ship.

The poliy would need to be worded very well. As
  I'm not a lawyer, I'm not sure exactly how to write the "code"

But in essence, if it's not stated clearly in a store's TOS, they can't add it,
not to shipping, not anywhere.

So, An additional charge of xx$, or a charge of up to xx$, or a charge of xx%
are all ok, easily figurable.

Not ok would be a "blind" charge not disclosed, nor would there will be an additional
(undisclosed) amount added to your order for xx reason.

All would be clear in the TOS at time of purchase, so easy to check by Admin,
easy to enforce.

I'm thinking that is quite practical to give people the freedom to structure
things the way they want to while making sure everything is disclosed. Have
a min shipping or set amount if you want but ramp up the consequences for sneaking
around.

  
Of course, there are sellers who "guestimate" shipping and accidentally overcharge,
they would then be obligated to refund the overage.


There is always going to be a certain amount of trust going on that is needed
and healthy in the vast majority of transactions. Your example hitting the nail.


While the trust is good a lack of consequences for sneaking in fees/overcharge,
especially when you have to commit to an order without an invoice, will only
help the site "brand".

Joe
 Author: BLUSER_210488 View Messages Posted By BLUSER_210488
 Posted: Mar 1, 2012 11:58
 Subject: Re: Add to NRS/NSS Undisclosed fees
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In Suggestions, Master_Jedi_Rob writes:
  In addition to seller penalties NRS and NSS I would like to add "Undisclosed
fees added to invoice."

Three strikes and out.

It's most probably illegal in all cases to add undisclosed fees to a "binding
contract" worldwide, so why is it tolerated here?

-R

I like the idea, one escape route still left though even if this went through.


Until all fees have to be separated from "shipping" and shipping is changed
to " actual postage cost paid" shysters can just keep adding them onto shipping
and saying there is no "fee" it's part of the cost of shipping. "Handling is
part of shipping and my lot fees are part of handling...."

Add that change and I am on board.

Joe