| Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | axaday  | | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 08:12 | | Subject: | Re: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02 | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | Because at Bricklink you cannot sell the torso assembly as it is supplied by
LEGO. There is not a catalogue entry for the torso, arm and hand and robot arm
without the claw, as supplied by LEGO. To match the catalogue entry, you need
to add the robot arm.
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Do you really want to sell a torso with 1 arm? Is there is a market for that?
| | It implies you have to either add the arm to the torso, or bag them separately
to keep them together, or store them unattached but need to remember to add the
robot arm, and hope the buyer finds the robot arm before complaining that it
is missing the arm.
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If you attach the arm one time, it is still new according to the rules. That
option is on the table. Bagging them separately and together are both on the
table, together being probably preferable if you are afraid the buyer will not
find the arm.
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| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 07:41 | | Subject: | Re: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02 | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Precedence.
All of the other torsos that use
are handled the same way.
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OK, so it's historical. Will this ever be changed to reflect what is actually
received in a set rather than what is needed for a set, like the debate about
the sprued parts now being the whole sprue rather than the required parts only?
If parting these out it is necessary to assemble them, and I don't want to
assemble them if they later become the individual parts.
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Please don't assemble ANY of the minifig parts if you are selling it to me.
Why would this imply that anyone wanted you to do that?
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Because at Bricklink you cannot sell the torso assembly as it is supplied by
LEGO. There is not a catalogue entry for the torso, arm and hand and robot arm
without the claw, as supplied by LEGO. To match the catalogue entry, you need
to add the robot arm.
It implies you have to either add the arm to the torso, or bag them separately
to keep them together, or store them unattached but need to remember to add the
robot arm, and hope the buyer finds the robot arm before complaining that it
is missing the arm.
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Another illustrative example of why the "consistency" approach doesn't work.
In cases like this, the admins have to choose which practice to be "consistent"
with, which creates inconsistency.
The way to avoid it is to have guidelines that are as simple as possible. "Define
parts based on how they are found in a sealed set" is one simple guideline. If
we always follow that guideline, then the set inventories take care of themselves
and parting out new sets works. If we make an exception, then make more exceptions
because of that first exception, then ultimately ignore the guideline because
"That's they way we've always done it," the guideline has lost its meaning.
When faced with a dilemma like this partly-assembled torso, the decision should
be made in favor of the more basic principle, not later exceptions.
I think it is clear that many of the inconsistencies in the catalog are the result
of implementing ever-more complicated "rules" that are put in place to handle
exceptions rather than basing decisions on a few simple guidelines.
It should surprise nobody that people attracted to Lego are also really into
elaborate systems, but the secret to Lego's success as a system is that it
is not elaborate. Just a few rules create a very flexible system.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 06:56 | | Subject: | Re: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02 | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Precedence.
All of the other torsos that use
are handled the same way.
|
OK, so it's historical. Will this ever be changed to reflect what is actually
received in a set rather than what is needed for a set, like the debate about
the sprued parts now being the whole sprue rather than the required parts only?
If parting these out it is necessary to assemble them, and I don't want to
assemble them if they later become the individual parts.
|
Please don't assemble ANY of the minifig parts if you are selling it to me.
Why would this imply that anyone wanted you to do that?
|
Because at Bricklink you cannot sell the torso assembly as it is supplied by
LEGO. There is not a catalogue entry for the torso, arm and hand and robot arm
without the claw, as supplied by LEGO. To match the catalogue entry, you need
to add the robot arm.
It implies you have to either add the arm to the torso, or bag them separately
to keep them together, or store them unattached but need to remember to add the
robot arm, and hope the buyer finds the robot arm before complaining that it
is missing the arm.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 05:45 | | Subject: | Re: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02 | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Precedence.
All of the other torsos that use
are handled the same way.
|
OK, so it's historical. Will this ever be changed to reflect what is actually
received in a set rather than what is needed for a set, like the debate about
the sprued parts now being the whole sprue rather than the required parts only?
If parting these out it is necessary to assemble them, and I don't want to
assemble them if they later become the individual parts.
|
Please don't assemble ANY of the minifig parts if you are selling it to me.
Why would this imply that anyone wanted you to do that?
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 05:28 | | Subject: | Re: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02 | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | Precedence.
All of the other torsos that use
are handled the same way.
|
OK, so it's historical. Will this ever be changed to reflect what is actually
received in a set rather than what is needed for a set, like the debate about
the sprued parts now being the whole sprue rather than the required parts only?
If parting these out it is necessary to assemble them, and I don't want to
assemble them if they later become the individual parts.
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