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 Author: LEGOfan1138 View Messages Posted By LEGOfan1138
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In LEGO, BrickBuy writes:
  In LEGO, milwaukee writes:
  The poll seems to be having only negative effects.
I will buy more now as I buy mostly online and hate getting crumbled up baggies
with less desirable figs.


Same here. The poll is very much biased. I will be buying many more. In the past,
I've bought some (actually very many...), only to fend bend items, like spears,
swords, most likely damaged not in production buy by "feelers". Knowing that
the quality of parts is now more guaranteed, and the good ones are not all gone,
I'll buy more in stores.

Honestly TLG’s recent changes to things are so pointless. This change is the
literal definition of “ If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” They make changes that
make no sense and yet they won’t do things the ENTIRE FANDOM wants. Same goes
for the Slave 1 name change in August.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:
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  In LEGO, yorbrick writes:
  Not being able to feel for them is a game changer for me. If I want just a specific
one, I don't want to gamble with an 8% chance of winning. No doubt others
will feel the same, and boxes will get "accidentally damaged" by customers in
store like they were for the Vidiyo blind boxes.

It has always been a head scratcher for me. When I was trying to get Transformers
the Movie stickers way back when, it was just discouraging. My mom would get
me a pack or two sometimes, but I never got close to completing my book.

Now it is 2022 and we have the secondary market and I think almost all this does
is drive people there.

Yeah, and after a relatively short time, you couldn’t find these stickers.

As a grownup, I got a mint condition Transformers the Movie sticker book and
found people selling sticker packs on eBay. I refused to buy open packs. I
left my original alone, but I did complete the additional book entirely with
sticker packs I opened myself.

Non-autistic people probably wouldn't have gone to the trouble.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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  Simple solution: don’t make less desirable figures!

Yeah, although I guess different people liking different things does help here.
If they grouped them in a theme, then less are likely to be disappointing ones
within a series. So if they did a historical warriors series, I probably wouldn't
mind which ones I got, they are all winners and I'd buy multiples of each.
Whereas if it was animal costumes, or fairies and unicorns, or emergency service
personnel, and so on, I'd skip those series so while the whole series is
a disappointment (for me) at least I don't end up with piles of crap I don't
want. I'd end up skipping probably 5 out of 6 series if they kept doing similar
figures to now, instead of picking up maybe 2 out of 12 figures per series.
 Author: BrickBuy View Messages Posted By BrickBuy
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In LEGO, milwaukee writes:
  The poll seems to be having only negative effects.
I will buy more now as I buy mostly online and hate getting crumbled up baggies
with less desirable figs.


Same here. The poll is very much biased. I will be buying many more. In the past,
I've bought some (actually very many...), only to fend bend items, like spears,
swords, most likely damaged not in production buy by "feelers". Knowing that
the quality of parts is now more guaranteed, and the good ones are not all gone,
I'll buy more in stores.
 Author: milwaukee View Messages Posted By milwaukee
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The poll seems to be having only negative effects.
I will buy more now as I buy mostly online and hate getting crumbled up baggies
with less desirable figs.

In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:
  In LEGO, tEoS writes:
  At $5 per figure this is really disappointing. However, the advantage of this
packaging is in reducing plastic waste.

https://brickset.com/article/79016/new-collectable-minifigure-packaging

And BrickSet is now making a poll that they’ll forward to LEGO: https://brickset.com/article/79018
(no need to register to answer).
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 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In LEGO, tEoS writes:
  At $5 per figure this is really disappointing. However, the advantage of this
packaging is in reducing plastic waste.

https://brickset.com/article/79016/new-collectable-minifigure-packaging

And BrickSet is now making a poll that they’ll forward to LEGO: https://brickset.com/article/79018
(no need to register to answer).
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In LEGO, yorbrick writes:
  We also have those magazines here. The first one is heavily advertised and a
good price, but they try to get you to subscribe with extra offers for the rest
of the series at a much higher price. The first one is often good value but the
rest terrible.

Thanks, good to know we’re not the only victims
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We also have those magazines here. The first one is heavily advertised and a
good price, but they try to get you to subscribe with extra offers for the rest
of the series at a much higher price. The first one is often good value but the
rest terrible.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In LEGO, Stuart9 writes:
  I have a first day of issue U.K. Lottery ticket somewhere, not exactly lucky
for the first draw but who knows for some future collector of odd items.

It actually has first day of issue on the ticket.

Hmm, do lotteries keep the claimed winning tickets?

I’m sure there’d be people to collect those tickets even if they aren’t the ones
who won with them
 Author: ImperialFleet View Messages Posted By ImperialFleet
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Yeah, same here.
 Author: Stuart9 View Messages Posted By Stuart9
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I have a first day of issue U.K. Lottery ticket somewhere, not exactly lucky
for the first draw but who knows for some future collector of odd items.

It actually has first day of issue on the ticket.




In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:
  In LEGO, axaday writes:
  In LEGO, yorbrick writes:
  Not being able to feel for them is a game changer for me. If I want just a specific
one, I don't want to gamble with an 8% chance of winning. No doubt others
will feel the same, and boxes will get "accidentally damaged" by customers in
store like they were for the Vidiyo blind boxes.

It has always been a head scratcher for me. When I was trying to get Transformers
the Movie stickers way back when, it was just discouraging. My mom would get
me a pack or two sometimes, but I never got close to completing my book.

Now it is 2022 and we have the secondary market and I think almost all this does
is drive people there.

Yeah, and after a relatively short time, you couldn’t find these stickers.

It reminds me of another marketing practice with the same ‘appeal to novelty’.

I don’t know if it’s a thing in the USA, I don’t even know if it’s EU-wide (though
I think the main editor is in Spain) but there’s these ‘magazines’ here that
both give information on a theme and parts for a model.  For instance ‘the Titanic’
or ‘Alien’ with a couple of plastic things that will make a model in 20 issues….
The thing is, there’s a lot of ads (TV…) for the 1st issue, and they produce
it at ~100k copies (that’s a lot for France)… and the other issues are only produced
at 5k copies and you almost can’t find them anywhere… but that’s not really a
problem because a lot of people only buy the first one and quit and those who
are really interested will subscribe to be sure to get all the issues.
I even knew of someone who collected 1st issues only.  There’s collectors for
anything
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Even if it is for a good cause, it still sucks. I understand the reason and good
for them, but I might be more hesitant to purchase these if I don't have
a clue what it could be. Well, those are my thoughts, thanks for the heads up!
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In LEGO, yorbrick writes:
  In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:
  In LEGO, yorbrick writes:
  […]
The other reason for it is to make less desirable figures sell

Simple solution: don’t make less desirable figures!


They used to say something along the lines of they couldn't predict which
ones will be popular. I think they should know by now.

Yeah, just look at prices on BrickLink
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In LEGO, axaday writes:
  In LEGO, yorbrick writes:
  Not being able to feel for them is a game changer for me. If I want just a specific
one, I don't want to gamble with an 8% chance of winning. No doubt others
will feel the same, and boxes will get "accidentally damaged" by customers in
store like they were for the Vidiyo blind boxes.

It has always been a head scratcher for me. When I was trying to get Transformers
the Movie stickers way back when, it was just discouraging. My mom would get
me a pack or two sometimes, but I never got close to completing my book.

Now it is 2022 and we have the secondary market and I think almost all this does
is drive people there.

Yeah, and after a relatively short time, you couldn’t find these stickers.

It reminds me of another marketing practice with the same ‘appeal to novelty’.

I don’t know if it’s a thing in the USA, I don’t even know if it’s EU-wide (though
I think the main editor is in Spain) but there’s these ‘magazines’ here that
both give information on a theme and parts for a model.  For instance ‘the Titanic’
or ‘Alien’ with a couple of plastic things that will make a model in 20 issues….
The thing is, there’s a lot of ads (TV…) for the 1st issue, and they produce
it at ~100k copies (that’s a lot for France)… and the other issues are only produced
at 5k copies and you almost can’t find them anywhere… but that’s not really a
problem because a lot of people only buy the first one and quit and those who
are really interested will subscribe to be sure to get all the issues.
I even knew of someone who collected 1st issues only.  There’s collectors for
anything
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In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:
  In LEGO, yorbrick writes:
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The other reason for it is to make less desirable figures sell

Simple solution: don’t make less desirable figures!


They used to say something along the lines of they couldn't predict which
ones will be popular. I think they should know by now.
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In LEGO, yorbrick writes:
  Not being able to feel for them is a game changer for me. If I want just a specific
one, I don't want to gamble with an 8% chance of winning. No doubt others
will feel the same, and boxes will get "accidentally damaged" by customers in
store like they were for the Vidiyo blind boxes.

It has always been a head scratcher for me. When I was trying to get Transformers
the Movie stickers way back when, it was just discouraging. My mom would get
me a pack or two sometimes, but I never got close to completing my book.

Now it is 2022 and we have the secondary market and I think almost all this does
is drive people there.
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In LEGO, yorbrick writes:
  […]
The other reason for it is to make less desirable figures sell

Simple solution: don’t make less desirable figures!


  but of course
that leads to disappointment when you get one of the less popular figures, even
worse when you get two!

Tell me about it: I bought one CMF22 on S@H to reach the amount to get the Hideout
(thanks prices in —9.99) and got the Bird Watcher, meh….
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In LEGO, LegoMath writes:
  As we know, some people like the ability to determine the minifigure inside by
feeling the bag and some people like the surprise of not knowing which minifigure
is inside the bag. To satisfy all, TLG could simply add a code on the box (I
believe TLG used to do this as I recall coded dots on each bag of the earlier
series).

Those people who want to know which minifigure is inside a box can learn the
codes (either themselves as a fun challenge to deciphering the code or by going
online to learn which codes correlate to which minifigures). Those people who
want to be surprised have the choice of not looking at the faintly printed coded
dots (or slightly indented dots) on a box.

When series 1 came out in 2010 you could determine the figure type from the barcode
pattern. Various sites published a cheat sheet (Search on Brickset). As this
series included a Spartan warrior this caused it own problems and that figure
sold online at a premium price, it seemed lots of people wanted a Spartan army!
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In LEGO, LegoMath writes:
  As we know, some people like the ability to determine the minifigure inside by
feeling the bag and some people like the surprise of not knowing which minifigure
is inside the bag. To satisfy all, TLG could simply add a code on the box (I
believe TLG used to do this as I recall coded dots on each bag of the earlier
series).

Those people who want to know which minifigure is inside a box can learn the
codes (either themselves as a fun challenge to deciphering the code or by going
online to learn which codes correlate to which minifigures). Those people who
want to be surprised have the choice of not looking at the faintly printed coded
dots (or slightly indented dots) on a box.

The downside of that is all the popular ones disappear so random pickers get
the less desirable figures only. I remember seeing people with bar code scanners
going through a S2 box of 60 in under 10 minutes, stripping out all the Spartans.

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